1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 06 Nov 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 621       Contents:P " WE currently hiring SERIOUS HOMEWORKERS Position: Home Typist, Clerk,Secretary Re: Alpha equivalent avoid DCL limit? Re: Broken TK50  Re: Broken TK50  Re: cannot see my CD-ROM' Re: DCL symbol substitution hint needed ' Re: DCL symbol substitution hint needed ' Re: DCL symbol substitution hint needed  Re: eBay (guess what) again.: Re: Encrypted Backup (was: How to boost DLT backup speed?) Re: GAWK for VMS? % How to stop a VaxStation rebooting...  Re: Java on Openvms  Licensing in cluster Re: Licensing in cluster Re: Licensing in cluster Re: Licensing in cluster Re: Licensing in cluster( login prompts inhibited with logins=0 ??0 Re: Memory test or 'public' diagnostic for AS200+ Re: Need help with $GETUAI in wildcard-mode ' Need help with $GETUAI in wildcard-mode + Re: Need help with $GETUAI in wildcard-mode ' Need help with $GETUAI in wildcard-mode ) Non-OpenVMS question (to Andrew Harrison) " Re: porting from open vms to winnt( Re: Sun UE10000 is *NOT* an HPC platform( Re: Sun UE10000 is *NOT* an HPC platform
 Re: Time Zone ' Re: VAX Mail question - corrupted files  Re: VMSINSTALL Question  Re: What OpenVMS version? * Re: Windows NT to OpenVMS access questions  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:30:34 -0500 (EST)  From: texaspro@alloymail.comY Subject: " WE currently hiring SERIOUS HOMEWORKERS Position: Home Typist, Clerk,Secretary ; Message-ID: <200011061002.XAA30842@smtpout1.compass.net.nz>      h Earn $3,500 -$5,000 per month! Experience is NOT necessary. Part time/full time. ANYWHERE in the world!    V This is a GREAT and EASY home business to start and REAL job for everyone. Apply now    Y Please, be serious in accepting this job, because we are only hiring serious homeworkers. J We offer you a REAL job that you can do at home and increase your income.   X If you are looking for a get-rich-quick scheme or MLM program, please do not e-mail me.    If you are not interested please hit "Reply" and type in the word "Remove" in the subject field and you will not be contacted again.     # For more infomation please apply to    texaspro@alloymail.com    > Please provide a valid E-Mail Address so I may respond to you.   Subject:homeworker. Please write short text those who are serious.   Thank you for your time   
 Liz Thomas   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:56:22 +0000 - From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk>  Subject: Re: Alpha equivalent ) Message-ID: <3A06E2B6.5D1C7DDB@bbc.co.uk>    Alan Greig wrote:    > > K > > > Not directly Oracle related but the Wihitehouse is moving back to VMS J > > > for its mail backbone as they haven't been able to get anything likeF > > > their old reliability since phasing out VMS in favour of PC mail > > > systems. [...] > > 1 > >         Interesting.  Do you have a reference  > 6 > Steve Hoffman, DECUS, London: VMS Future, last week.  : Now, I wonder who told them to dump their VMS solution and deploy Exchange?  2 enough to make you weep if what I suspect is true.     --6 Tim Llewellyn, OpenVMS Infrastructure, Remarcs Project0 MedAS at the BBC, Whiteladies Road, Bristol, UK.A Email tim.llewellyn@bbc.co.uk. Home tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk   A I speak for myself only and my views in no way represent those of  MedAS or the BBC.    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Nov 2000 17:52:10 GMT * From: helbig@astro.rug.nl (Phillip Helbig) Subject: avoid DCL limit? . Message-ID: <8u6r4a$cur$1@info.service.rug.nl>  ( I have a .COM file which has a line like  3    $  SEARCH/MATCH=NOR/OUTPUT=file2.txt file1.txt -        string1, -       string2, -       string3, -       string4   F etc.  I add more strings from time to time.  Today, I started getting F strange errors, and suspect the problem is that the entire command is & more than 1024 characters or whatever.  F Is there any way around this, short of splitting it up into more than H one command (not a problem here), causing additional temporary files (a  problem here)?  B Is there any chance that this limit (or other DCL limits) will be  relaxed in the future?     ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:23:33 -0500 (EST) 2 From: "Douglas S. Meade" <vaxboy@inforum2.umd.edu> Subject: Re: Broken TK50F Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.0011061216270.8701-100000@inforum2.umd.edu>   John,   < I've had a lot of frustrations with TK50's eating tapes, but< my experience has been like yours -- if you are patient, you< can generally extract the tape, and still use it again.  You; probably have already read this elsewhere, but the two most ; common causes of failure are bent leaders, or dirty LEDs.   < The leaders are about $2 ea. from 1-800-DIGITAL, and a while: back I bought about 10, and managed to get 3 'dead' drives< working.  I've tended to be very careful about cleaning the : heads with anything but a damp (damp with water!) cloth.  8 I ruined a TK70 by cleaning the heads with alcohol.  The6 rest of the drive was fine, but now it's a dead drive.7 The other cardinal rule of working with TK50s is: make  7 sure you push the tape in *firmly*.  I've had a couple  5 get stuck because I was lazy about shutting the drive  door firmly enough.   8 The failure to show up on SHOW DEV I have only seen when> there is something amiss with the cable between the controller8 and the drive.  Do you have a spare cable you could try?8 Or perhaps when you removed the drive you didn't get it $ back on correctly ("this side up"?).  9 I agree with you, that $45 is too much to pay.  I'd offer . $25 plus shipping for a drive known to work.    
 Doug Meade    & On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, John Santos wrote:   > B > I was attempting to upgrade my hobbyist VAX at home to VMS V7.2,? > and after reading in the 1st TK50, it got stuck in the middle > > of the rewind.  Install was prompting for the 2nd tape to be
 > mounted. > > > Red light flashing.  Cycling the button, power cycling, etc.; > didn't seem to do anything.  Eventually, I dismantled the @ > drive and discovered about 75% of the tape was on the internal? > take-up reel.  Foolishly, I spun the tape the rest of the way @ > onto the reel, and discovered it wasn't fastened at all to the@ > supply reel (inside the cartridge.)  Some how, pushing buttons? > and levers, I managed to get the empty cartridge out (figured ? > it was trashed at this point...), disassembled the cartridge, ? > rewound the tape onto the supply reel, re-assembled the drive < > and cartridge.  Amazingly, the cartridge seems to be okay!@ > I was able to mount it on our VAX at work (TK70), and read all@ > 3 savesets.  (I did a backup/list on them, which I think needs > to read all the tape blocks.)  > A > The drive is still acting funny.  Console >>> SHOW DEV sees the ? > controller but not the drive.  It pauses about a minute after B > printing the "UQSSP Tape Drive (775400)" line, but doesn't printA > "MUA0:" on the next line like it should.  Also, VMS doesn't see  > the drive. > A > When I power up the VAX, the Red button light comes on, and the > > handle won't lift.  It doesn't matter if the button is in or@ > out when the power is applied.  After a while (maybe after the> > Qbus gets inited), the gear wheel that engages the bottom ofE > the supply reel starts spinning, and the red light starts flashing. < > I think it may think there is a tape in the drive and it's5 > trying to rewind or unload it.  Flakey microswitch?  > = > I can't find much about TK50's on the net, but one web page < > suggested that the heads might be dirty, but cleaning them; > should be done very carefully since isopropyl alcohol can = > disolve some glue and make them fall apart!  (It was filthy < > inside when I disassembled it.  I blew a lot of canned air4 > through it and think I have got all the dust out.) >  > So, is it toast? > : > (I see someone is selling a TK50, untested and as-is, on8 > Ebay.  They want $45 plus $18 shipping, but didn't get9 > any bids on it last week, so maybe $45 is too steep for . > one of these, especially with no guarantee.) >  > --  
 > John Santos  > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > 781-861-0670 ext 539 >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:48:39 GMT + From: John Santos <john.santos@verizon.net>  Subject: Re: Broken TK50> Message-ID: <MPG.1470c707f7ca221798968e@news.bellatlantic.net>  - In article <rdeininger-0611000142520001@user- A 2ive67c.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspring.com says... R > In article <1001105202613.2093D@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> wrote: >  > @ > > Red light flashing.  Cycling the button, power cycling, etc.= > > didn't seem to do anything.  Eventually, I dismantled the B > > drive and discovered about 75% of the tape was on the internalA > > take-up reel.  Foolishly, I spun the tape the rest of the way B > > onto the reel, and discovered it wasn't fastened at all to the( > > supply reel (inside the cartridge.)  >  > :-)  > E > That's a nasty shock the first time it happens, isn't it?  The tape H > isn't attached to the reel, and there's no optical marker or hole thatD > tells the drive the end is near.  I guess the firmware just counts	 > inches.   I Actually, there was a small hole in the middle of the tape about 2-3 feet D from the end.  I didn't notice this until I was rewinding it.  ThereG are also a pair of what appear to be optical sensors mounted just after D the tape head.  I suppose light getting into the drive could trigger> this sensor, but I wasn't trying to run it with the cover off.   > . > > Amazingly, the cartridge seems to be okay!B > > I was able to mount it on our VAX at work (TK70), and read allB > > 3 savesets.  (I did a backup/list on them, which I think needs! > > to read all the tape blocks.)  > A > Do you have Save Set Manager?  The first thing you should do is ( > copy those old tapes onto newer media.  D Good point.  I don't have saveset manager, and it doesn't seem to beF included in the hobbyist PAKs.  Not sure if it is in CSA, which I have at work, but I don't think so.  > But I do have a program I wrote to copy tapes via a disk file.@ It worked on VMS071.A, but failed on .B because the tape records= were too long (32256 bytes).  The reason for the limit is the C program is actually a Basic-plus program that I wrote for RSTS many @ years ago!  I don't know if I can make the buffer big enough forA 32256-byte tape records.  I could always migrate it to VAX Basic. > (It won't handle the deliberately-left-in bad records that VMS? backup leaves on the tape, but the VMS dist. tapes were written @ with "/INTERCHANGE" and I didn't get any tape errors reading the) tape, so I don't think this is an issue.)     > > So, is it toast? > H > Don't know.  The only think I know how to fix in a sick TK50/70/DLT is+ > the plastic leader on the take-up reel.    > 5 Terry suggested the same thing.  Will check it again.   J > Maybe the controller is sick, and not the drive.  Can you borrow another > one to test with?   6 Don't have a spare, but I might be able to find one...  G > Weren't there diagnostic programs for microvaxes long ago?  I've seen D > a tape called "customer diagnostics", but according to rumor thereE > was a field service version that was more complete.  Dunno if these = > diagnostics included anything for TK50s, but it's possible.   J Actually, I have two different versions of diagnostics (at work), but I'm I not sure if they are just two different revs of customer diagnostics, or  I if one is customer and one is field service.  However, both are on TK50,   so I can't boot them!    --   John Santos    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:00:01 +02007 From: "Uri Klil-Hahoresh" <uri.klilhahoresh@compaq.com> ! Subject: Re: cannot see my CD-ROM 6 Message-ID: <8u3enl$ejb$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>   Hi  " A minute before dropping my cd-rom	 Any news?    Thanks in advance  Uri   B "Uri Klil-Hahoresh" <uri.klilhahoresh@compaq.com> wrote in message0 news:8th61k$134$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... > Hi > 3 > First let me congratulate you for your promotion.  >  > Regards the CD-ROM: I > Can't see I mean I can't see the DQ.. device at all - not even offline.  > 1 > here's the output from >>> sh config   command:  > ... (bla bla bla)  > Bus 00 Slot 04: PCI IDE 7 >                                 pqa0.0.0.4.0 PCI EIDE F >                                 dqa0.0.0.4.0 TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6102B! > Bus 00 Slot 07: Intel SIO 82378  > ...(bla bla bla)J > I understand I cannot boot from this type of CD-ROM, but can you explain@ > what steps should I take in order to make this cd-rom working? >  > Best regards > Uri  >  > A > "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in message 2 > news:8t9veq$feb$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com... > > ? > > In article <8t8pi7$69u$1@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>, "Uri  Klil-Hahoresh"' > <uri.klilhahoresh@compaq.com> writes:  > > J > > :I have dpws500au with vma 7.2-1 (include update,scsi,sys and dqconfig > patchsL > > :which suppose to resolve this), but I can't see my IDE CD-ROM. From the > bootA > > :console the computer recognize it, but not when I start VMS. ) > > :The cd-rom type is TOSHIBA XM-6102B. ' > > :Did someone else has this problem?  > > 6 > >   Can you elaborate on your use of the word "see"? > > K > >   Are you attempting to bootstrap from an IDE CD-ROM from this?  If so, K > >   you must have a system with the Cypress combination I/O and IDE chip, F > >   and not with the Intel Saturn I/O (Intel SIO) and CMD IDE chips. > > J > >   If >>> show config indicates: an Intel SIO is present, you will want toJ > >   acquire and boot from a SCSI CD-ROM.  There are unsupported (manual)K > >   steps to get this IDE CD-ROM to work once OpenVMS is running, but you  > >   cannot bootstrap from it.  > > L > >   If >>> show config indicates a Cypress PCI Peripheral Controller, then% > >   this configuration should work.  > > . > >  --------------------------- pure personal% > opinion --------------------------- 3 > >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering  > hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com > >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:22:49 -0500 0 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty.NOSPAM@sas.com>0 Subject: Re: DCL symbol substitution hint needed2 Message-ID: <M9oGOjADM8cqfEuB7C8aYxRym8jk@4ax.com>  ? O.K., now I get it.  Other than Brian's solution, I don't think 9 it can be done in one line.  I've done this kind of thing 8 before with "dynamic" DCL and could never get it to work one a single line.   David R. Beatty   : On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:43:44 +0100, "Jean-Franois Marchal"' <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr> wrote:    > > >"David Beatty" <David.Beatty.NOSPAM@sas.com> wrote in message- >news:=8UGOnKG+L9f+IadLriSqzwhbpwH@4ax.com...  >> >> Why not just  >>* >> $ _Name = F$Edit( Name_'Vsn' , "TRIM" ) >>8 >> where Vsn is the item in the list you are looking at? >> >> David R. Beatty >  >  >Hlas, non. > > >because what I have to parse is a record for which NAME_'VSN' >is just some kind of pointer. > 
 >Cordialement  >Jean-Franois >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:15:27 +0100> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>0 Subject: Re: DCL symbol substitution hint needed. Message-ID: <8u6opg$jkb$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>  6 "Maulis Adam" <maulis@ludens.elte.hu> wrote in message news:1Adj6Pd1YAqt@ludens...    > >>$    NAME = NAME'VSN' 3 > >>$    __NAME == f$edit(f$extract('NAME'),"TRIM")  > " > functionality equal in one line: > E > $ __NAME == f$edit( f$extract( 'f$string( "'NAME"+VSN )) , "TRIM" )  >  >  > (c) real DCL hack :-)      Great ! works perfectly ...    Merci 1000 fois   
 Jean-Franois    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:49:58 +0100> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>0 Subject: Re: DCL symbol substitution hint needed. Message-ID: <8u6qq7$lp1$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>  J "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:009F2B75.3E77CD2C@SendSpamHere.ORG...  G > In article <1Adj6Pd1YAqt@ludens>, maulis@ludens.elte.hu (Maulis Adam)  writes:   F > >$ __NAME == f$edit( f$extract( 'f$string( "'NAME"+VSN )) , "TRIM" ) > >(c) real DCL hack :-)  I > If it worked, it would be a real DCL hack.  However, since it does not, H > I would have to conclude that it can be done only with the F$element()" > or some such similar extraction.    Brian ... it realy seems to work   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:55:08 +0100 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>t% Subject: Re: eBay (guess what) again.r) Message-ID: <3A067FFC.B72D0C13@gtech.com>.   andrew harrison wrote: > Jordan Henderson wrote:iH > > > The capabilities of the HW platform is also important, VLM withoutD > > > a reasonable amount of available memory isn't that usefull andF > > > that was always the issue with the 8400/GS140. This was probablyF > > > the reason why Digital/Compaq were never able to demonstrate the > > > benefitsI > > > of 64bit/VLM on any standard DBMS benchmarks that could be compareduC > > > with other vendors results. In fact there is no evidence that E > > > Compaq tried to make any use of VLM for any of these benchmarkslF > > > and if they did there the results obtained were not competitive. > > >L > >tJ > > Can anyone doubt that Andrew is on a FUD campaign against Compaq here? > ? > Lets examine the statement you are complaining about shall we-@ > and try to get to the bottom of your FACT vs FUD dillema shall > we.y > F > My statement that Digital/Compaq were unable to show any performance@ > benefits of using a 64bit OS and VLM for DBMS's measured usingH > standard benchmarks such as TPC/SAP/PeoplSoft etc is TRUE, you may notE > like it but you won't get any support from anyone at Compaq to back @ > you up because there is no support to available. Well with the0 > exception of Kerry but you want support right. > H > So this apparently is FUD, its TRUE, can it be FUD if its TRUE. Now of? > course I will be happy to be accused of FUD if you are sayinga@ > that FUD is simply a statement that is entirely TRUE but which! > is simply uncomfortable to you.t > > > I have not bothered detailing the depths of your FUD attempt< > with respect to Sun and Java but as I keep saying you need > to get more mirror time.  G Has any official tests showed that SUN will not explode at November 7thm 2000 ?   No.o  E So if I speculate from that fact that they will, then it is not FUD ?   H The U in FUD as far as I know stands for Uncertainty and you speculation@ based on the lack of TPC results is Uncertainty of anything is !   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Nov 2000 16:21:08 GMTB2 From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu (David Mathog)C Subject: Re: Encrypted Backup (was: How to boost DLT backup speed?)k, Message-ID: <8u6lpk$gtn@gap.cco.caltech.edu>  g In article <uul3YjjeT9ML@eisner.decus.org>, Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes:aO >In article <VA.00000158.160bface@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes: E >> In article <+M2LMF2ONiYS@eisner.decus.org>, Larry Kilgallen wrote:w= >>> From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)a >>> Newsgroups: comp.os.vmse/ >>> Subject: Re: How to boost DLT backup speed?y# >>> Date: 5 Nov 2000 09:49:46 -0500o >>> R >>> In article <VA.00000153.148784b9@sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> writes: >iH >>> > Back when I was working in the oil industry, there was a security O >>> > clampdown because some seismological data (read expensive), mysteriously  P >>> > appeared in the public domain. I don't know what happened in the end, but N >>> > it made me question the wisdom of trusting third parties with sensitive  >>> > data.i >>> E >>> For a time period described as "back when", the encryption option B >>> to VMS Backup was adequate.  For modern times I do not believe' >>> they have updated it to Triple DES.i >>>TK >> I thought that was only available in SEVMS. I seem to remember that the  T >> encryption stuff wasn't available outside the US for quite some time. It's still Q >> an extra option - backup/encrypt complains that the encryption product is not a9 >> installed, and I can't see it on the distribution CDs.t >e9 >DEC Encryption for OpenVMS is not associated with SEVMS, 7 >although it is subject to export controls.  Well, they-$ >might also share a product manager.  F That's all well and good but the ability to call out to the encryptionI program of your choice might be very handy indeed and really shouldn't bemF all that much work.  There are a bunch of ways they could do that, forD instance by BASE64 encoding the data stream and passing it through aJ mailbox to a program which encrypts it on the fly.  Or they could define aI way to hook onto a shared library by name so that the user could supply auJ function with a given name (backup$encrypt?) which would encrypt blocks of< N bytes at once.  Either way, it might look something like:   S   $ Backup/user_encryption=(program=sys$system:ourencrypt,param1=key1,param2=key2) e  J Alternatively, with DII/COE supposedly pipes are going to work better, so I if they could rig BACKUP to work reasonably well when reading a stream oft( data from SYS$INPUT you could maybe do:   2  $ pipe ourencrypt/infile=disk:[...]*.*/key=key1 |?    backup/stream=sys$input "ignored" mka0:foo.bck/save/norewindy  I The problem with this last method though is that you can't use any of the ( backup selection or protection switches.  I I don't need encrypted backups, but I can see now that if a site did the h7 standard tools don't provide any easy way to get there.o  	 Regards,     David Mathog mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edud? Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech f   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:00:14 -0500SR From: jamese@beast.dtsw.army.mil (Ed James, 410-295-1919, ed.james@telecomsys.com) Subject: Re: GAWK for VMS?0 Message-ID: <00110608001488@beast.dtsw.army.mil>  5 johnson@umtc.de wrote on 2 Nov 2000 09:19:23 -0800 in  <8ts7mr055a@drn.newsguy.com>:   C > I've got a VAX 4000 Model 90 (with VMS 5.5-2) with no C compiler.i > G > I need to get awk installed to write some scripts to automate severalr, > labor-intensive jobs involving text files. > I > Can anybody tell me how to go about getting awk for a VMS machine whiche > doesn't have a C compiler?  K You can down get a pre-compiled version of Perl on the OpenVMS Freeware CD,bM also available via http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/freeware/index.html.w  < If you don't write Perl, there is an Awk to Perl translator.  : Ed James                           ed.james@telecomsys.com5 TeleCommunications Systems, Inc.   voice 410-295-1919o; 2024 West Street, Suite 300              800-810-0827 x1919 5 Annapolis, MD 21401-3556           fax   410-280-1094w   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:02:44 GMTs From: abirkett@my-deja.com. Subject: How to stop a VaxStation rebooting...) Message-ID: <8u66l2$1jk$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   +  ...when the console connection is removed.b  < I have a vaxstation 4000-60 (VMS 7.2), the console (and onlyC available connection) is the serial line into my PC with a terminaleD emulator as the front end. My problem is that when I reboot or powerD down the PC, the VaxStation shuts down and goes through its power-upC tests. This is not the desired action. Is there any way of stoppinge this?t   Thanks,f   Ade    --D Intelligence is being able to listen to the William Tell overture...7                  ...without thinking of the Lone Rangeri    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.'   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:48:45 +0100e= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>  Subject: Re: Java on Openvms) Message-ID: <3A069A9D.D59C3D4D@gtech.com>    Larry Kilgallen wrote:_ > In article <3A02EFF3.A5854C76@uk.sun.com>, andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:oC > > I would be interested in what you think the security issues are D > > with Java. To my knowledge Java security issues have been in theE > > JVM implimentations and not in the Java language and spec itself.  > I > Andrew, you must understand that on VMS the two are inseparable becauseoH > the only way to use Java is to run the Java Virtual Machine. I realizeF > Sun's Chief Science Officer has a different vision, but Compaq still/ > looks at Java as purely a bytecode generator.  > C > A Java compiler that produced object code might be interesting tolK > some, but it is not particularly better than the best existing languages.l   ????   Java:>#   theory   : perfect security model    practive : few JVM bugs.  $ any other language available on VMS:   no security model   D If security is a concern, then I would consider Java one of the best
 languages.   (but not the fastest !),    E > > JavaScript is another thing entirely and it has nothing in commonh > > with Java except the name. > C > ...and a similar history of introducing security vulnerabilities.s   ????  D All the Java security problems I have heard about has been regarding6 Java applets, which today is <5% of Java code written.  E I am not aware of any security problems with Java in the >95% of Javar% code that are real Java applications.e  4 So I do not know what history you are referring to ?   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 05:20:49 -0400a- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>t Subject: Licensing in clusterT, Message-ID: <3A0677EC.71A66CF6@videotron.ca>  L On a 2 node cluster, with each node having its own system disk and hence its own license database.   N Is there any communications between the 2 nodes for the licensing system or do. the 2 nodes operate completely independantly ?  K When one has a concurrent use license, where is the information stored when L the product is activated by one user on a node ? Is that communicated to allN other nodes, or physically written (or a lock?) to the license database file ?   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Nov 2000 07:18:22 -0500e9 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)i! Subject: Re: Licensing in cluster + Message-ID: <ODQlFRAO9mvB@eisner.decus.org>   \ In article <3A0677EC.71A66CF6@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:N > On a 2 node cluster, with each node having its own system disk and hence its > own license database.a > P > Is there any communications between the 2 nodes for the licensing system or do0 > the 2 nodes operate completely independantly ? > M > When one has a concurrent use license, where is the information stored whendN > the product is activated by one user on a node ? Is that communicated to allP > other nodes, or physically written (or a lock?) to the license database file ?  E Current license usage information is communicated dynamically between D cluster members and kept in memory.  It is not stored on disk, sinceC that would only be for use after a reboot, when presumably a lot ofr the usage would have gone away.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:34:19 -0500 2 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <DRAGON@compuserve.com>! Subject: Re: Licensing in clusterf7 Message-ID: <200011060734_MC2-B9CB-B809@compuserve.com>r  J         It has been a while since I had such a cluster but I seem to reca= llJ that all licenses had to be registered in both databases.  We did not hav= ei$ any concurrent user licenses though.    Message text written by JF MezeiJ >On a 2 node cluster, with each node having its own system disk and hence=   itsu own license database.   J Is there any communications between the 2 nodes for the licensing system = or do. the 2 nodes operate completely independantly ?  J When one has a concurrent use license, where is the information stored wh= enH the product is activated by one user on a node ? Is that communicated to allmG other nodes, or physically written (or a lock?) to the license database0 file ?       <o   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:20:53 +0000a  From: steven.reece@quintiles.com! Subject: Re: Licensing in cluster H Message-ID: <OFACE7BE0F.35437562-ON8025698F.00541630@qedi.quintiles.com>  J Last time I tried such a configuration (circa OpenVMS VAX v6.2) all of theK license databases in the cluster had to have all of the licenses in them in % order to resolve licensing correctly.fB This was (IIRC) a three node NI cluster with two of the nodes also connected via DSSI.   @ Richard B. Gilbert (dragon at compuserve dot com) wrote/quoted :G >>>        It has been a while since I had such a cluster but I seem to  recallJ that all licenses had to be registered in both databases.  We did not have$ any concurrent user licenses though.    Message text written by JF MezeiI >On a 2 node cluster, with each node having its own system disk and henceo itsn own license database.   K Is there any communications between the 2 nodes for the licensing system orp do. the 2 nodes operate completely independantly ?  K When one has a concurrent use license, where is the information stored when H the product is activated by one user on a node ? Is that communicated to alloG other nodes, or physically written (or a lock?) to the license database  file ?<t <<<m   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:05:19 GMTO From: richard_maher@my-deja.come! Subject: Re: Licensing in cluster ) Message-ID: <8u6rsp$k5l$1@nnrp1.deja.com>    Hi,   D IIRC (I'm not sure from where. PAK generator docs? Does Compaq stillF sell that as a product?) that it is as simple as a user mode lock. IE:E whatever layered product you've called calls sys$license_check* whichnD calls $enq (probably gets a value block with max concurrent users inG it) and then does a $getlki to see how many people are currently on theOF lock. This would of course suggest the existance of a monitor thing toG keep the locks alive or some mechanism to initialize the LVB first time D so I've probably got it wrong, but I have seen something along thoseA lines when the documentation is pointing out that LMF is a Syetem-C Manager's administrative aid and not a piracy preventer. (Just like-' VMSINSTAL merely checks a logical name)    Regards Richard Maher.  , In article <3A0677EC.71A66CF6@videotron.ca>,0   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:D > On a 2 node cluster, with each node having its own system disk and	 hence its: > own license database.h > C > Is there any communications between the 2 nodes for the licensingo system or do0 > the 2 nodes operate completely independantly ? > A > When one has a concurrent use license, where is the informationm stored whenoG > the product is activated by one user on a node ? Is that communicatedn to all@ > other nodes, or physically written (or a lock?) to the license database file ?e >     & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.m   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:49:51 -0500 . From: "Bender, Jim E." <jim.e.bender@wawa.com>1 Subject: login prompts inhibited with logins=0 ??lN Message-ID: <1966635A0216D2119690AA0004001C050545609B@exchangecorp01.wawa.com>  0 We have a cluster of two Vax 7830's here running2 VMS 7.1 that is exhibiting some baffling behavior.  1 Recently we experienced a situation where one of  . the startup files that SYSMAN was running on a4 reboot blew up and took SYSMAN with it.  The startup, process exited and system startup ended with1 the logout information.   Normally, this wouldn't - be a huge problem as we could just log in andn0 fix the bad startup file.   However, the problem0 occurred before the number of interactive logins2 were increased from zero.  Normally, THAT wouldn't0 be a problem either, since a suitably privileged. account is SUPPOSED to be able to override the interactive login setting.  / What happens instead is we get NO login prompts 0 whatsoever, and no response from any attempts to/ connect to the system.   We can use SYSMAN froma. another system to see that the node is in fact. up and running, but no interactive connections- generate ANY response from the system.   NOT n  EVEN ON THE CONSOLE!! (OPA0:)     . Using SYSMAN on another node I set interactive4 logins to a non-zero value and BAM! we start getting0 login prompts.   This flies directly in the face/ of the documented behavior of interactive logini2 values, although where I actually saw this escapes- me now.   However, experiments on the runningw/ system confirms that a suitably privileged usern/ such as SYSTEM can in fact login if I first seto0 interactive logins to zero.  Normal users cannot, login, which is the expected behavior.  The 1 difference is we get login prompts and the system,2 decides who to let in based upon their privileges./ In our startup failure situation, the system is:. locking EVERYONE out from EVERYWHERE by virtue. of not giving ANY login prompts or even system identification.n  . Anyone have any thoughts on what is happening?1 I immediately fixed the errant procedure that wass/ causing SYSMAN to die, but since we continue tou/ use SYSMAN it would be nice to know why this is80 happening in case it comes up again.   Note that1 this was reported to DEQ support and after poking / around for a few hours told us that interactived1 logins were set to zero.  duh!   They didn't haveh1 an explanation for the no login prompts, however.e    Any insight greatly appreciated!   Thanks,L
 Jim Bender VMS Systems Manager  Wawa, Inc. e   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:06:28 +0100 (CET)o: From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>9 Subject: Re: Memory test or 'public' diagnostic for AS200oJ Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0011061600550.27636-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  ) On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Richard Jordan wrote:o  H +The SRM firmware on my Alphastation 200 apparently has no test command,  ;  Althought I can't remember that for AS200, *some* consolesP7 has a command like "set mode diag" (or lika that) - ando9 some command are available only in the "diagnostic" mode.o   [...]uF +even ARC)?  The machine POSTs fine, but NT can no longer stay running6 +for long (4-6 hours, then BSOD, even with nobody on).  =  Och.... Probably that is not "normal", but "nothing odd" -;)l  How long works *VMS* ??   [...]yG +If there's no available program I'll bring it up with VMS (that secondt- +disk I had to pull...) and see what happens;     -:)# ...and stay with VMS, I hope... -;)    +Thanks for any info.r    Regards - Gotfryd   --  E =====================================================================tF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEt. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================i   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 13:04:02 +0100e= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> 4 Subject: Re: Need help with $GETUAI in wildcard-mode) Message-ID: <3A069E31.3DBE7B40@gtech.com>    Lorin wrote:O > Problem is one of documentation (or its lack) in how, exactly, to use $GETUAIeL > calls to sequentially return records, and to "fetch by wildcard username": > J > 1. How to set up $GETUAI argument list, including "usrnam" and "contxt",L >    to get a "wildcard-fetch", one record after another?  Or, failing that,8 >    just return *all* records in the file sequentially? > N >    `OpenVMS System Services Reference Manual (GETQUI-Z)' (p.SYS2-67ff) givesK >    contradictory advice:  "usrnam" is simply "Name of the user about whom.L >    $GETUAI returns authorization information."  But on next page, "contxt"K >    is "Longword used to maintain authorization file context... On initialsK >    call, this longword should contain the value -1.  On subsequent calls, C >    the value... from the previous call should be passed back in."  > J >    OK, this seems well and good.  Trouble is, a simple-minded, test-modeG >    prototype of this doesn't work.  Regardless of whether I provide aiM >    "usrnam" parameter of "all blanks" (fixed-length string, 12 space-chars) L >    *or* one of '*' (also 11-blank padded) *plus* an initial "contxt" valueK >    of -1, the initial (and all other) call to $GETUAI returns a conditionaK >    code of %x182B2 (%RMS-E-RNF, record not found).  After the first call,bK >    the value of the "contxt" argument is observed to be 65537, which *is*nL >    then passed carefully back to the next call (same %RMS-E-RNF response),	 >    etc.a   It does not work this way !!!!  G SYS$GETUAI can only look up single users. It has no capability of doinge wildcard lookup.  E The context argument is something added to make many SYS$GETUAI callsu moreA efficient (and I severely doubt that is has any effect - I hav eac feeling thatC it was something once added, because someone thougth there may somed
 benefits).   You can either:   D 1)  open SYSUAF.DAT as an index-sequential RMS file and read records  E 2)  use SYS$IDTOASC to lookup all usernames in the RIGTHSLIST.DAT ands     use them with SYS$GETUAI  F There are examples in ftp://ftp.hhs.dk/pub/vms/utilities/utilities.zip  O >    Note:  I'm *not* a novice/confused about VMS datatypes, parameters, system(L >    services, itemlists, passing mechanisms, etc.  Problem is that the doc-O >    pages don't tell nearly enough to do/explain what I want/need, so I'm leftPK >    guessing about what the "magic" is to do a sequence gets from $GETUAI.o > L >    This kind of thing *must* be possible, since I'm imagining that the VMSM >    AUTHORIZE utility uses $GETUAI to support command lines like UAF> SHOW *aM >    and UAF> SHOW /BRIEF SYS*, and even UAF> SHOW /BRIEF [1,*], for example.iJ >    What transformation magic must be going on between the command line's9 >    wildcard and the actual $GETUAI parameter/call, huh?o  " I think AUTHORIZE uses direct RMS.  K >    a)  Is this even possible, using $GETUAI?  Or is the "hint" about whato, >        the "contxt" argument itself bogus?  
 See above.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:39:49 -0700 ( From: l_ricker@lto.locktrack.com (Lorin)0 Subject: Need help with $GETUAI in wildcard-mode. Message-ID: <00110608394941@lto.locktrack.com>  H Thanks for the response, Arne... wasn't the answer I was hoping for, butH your advice confirms my suspicions about this sys-service, and I'll stop chasing that wild goose now.  D BTW, does anyone recall a pointer to documentation on the RMS recordE layout for the SYSUAF.DAT file?  Seems to me like there was indeed an G appendix on this topic in "ancient" VMS docs, but also recall that thiseC (probably) disappeared with the advent of the $GET/SETUAI services.e  F A copy of record layout doc would be much appreciated (in any form)...G I can reverse engineer, but would appreciate the boost if someone's got  it to share...  $ TIA (again!) for any help/responses.  E Lorin Ricker            Lorin.Ricker@T-NETIX.com        (303)705-5575 
 T-NETIX, Inc.8 67 Inverness Drive East, Englewood, CO 80112    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:13:58 -0500oR From: jamese@beast.dtsw.army.mil (Ed James, 410-295-1919, ed.james@telecomsys.com)4 Subject: Re: Need help with $GETUAI in wildcard-mode0 Message-ID: <00110612135816@beast.dtsw.army.mil>  N l_ricker@lto.locktrack.com (Lorin) wrote on Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:39:49 -0700 in# <00110608394941@lto.locktrack.com>:i  J > Thanks for the response, Arne... wasn't the answer I was hoping for, butJ > your advice confirms my suspicions about this sys-service, and I'll stop > chasing that wild goose now. > F > BTW, does anyone recall a pointer to documentation on the RMS recordG > layout for the SYSUAF.DAT file?  Seems to me like there was indeed an I > appendix on this topic in "ancient" VMS docs, but also recall that thistE > (probably) disappeared with the advent of the $GET/SETUAI services.  > H > A copy of record layout doc would be much appreciated (in any form)...I > I can reverse engineer, but would appreciate the boost if someone's got9 > it to share...  1 There is a UAFDEF.H in SYS$LIBRARY:SYS$LIB_C.TLB.F  : Ed James                           ed.james@telecomsys.com5 TeleCommunications Systems, Inc.   voice 410-295-1919h; 2024 West Street, Suite 300              800-810-0827 x1919J5 Annapolis, MD 21401-3556           fax   410-280-1094a   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:26:42 -0700t( From: l_ricker@lto.locktrack.com (Lorin)0 Subject: Need help with $GETUAI in wildcard-mode. Message-ID: <00110610264256@lto.locktrack.com>  3 > There is a UAFDEF.H in SYS$LIBRARY:SYS$LIB_C.TLB.q  F And thanks, Ed, for this pointer!  Turns out that the include-file forE the SCANUAF.FOR (DECUS submission) is also very helpful, so I'm on myt way.   Lorinl   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 11:37:35 -0200 ) From: fabio_compaq@ep-bc.petrobras.com.brw2 Subject: Non-OpenVMS question (to Andrew Harrison)L Message-ID: <OF96D8E303.073E99EE-ON8325698F.004A95AF@ep-bc.petrobras.com.br>  	 Hi Andrewt  K Do you know if the QFS file system is a good choice instead of the VxFS forn	 example ?i  - http://www.lsci.com/lsci/products/product.htme    Is this company LSCI trustable ?   Regardsd   FC   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:51:33 +0100 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>%+ Subject: Re: porting from open vms to winntn) Message-ID: <3A069B45.712C5181@gtech.com>f   Pallavi Dongre wrote:l. > i need to port a tool from open vms to winnt > how do i do it ? > kindly help asap...- >  > the tool includes files like > fab.ho > rab.h: > nam.h0	 > abdef.hF
 > libdef.h	 > ssdef.h@
 > rmsdef.h > 
 > xaballdef.hi
 > xabdatdef.h 
 > xabfhcdef.h0
 > xabkeydef.hv
 > xabsumdef.h 
 > xabprodef.hs  6 Forget about porting. This is very VMS specific stuff.  < Take the high-level functionality of the code and rewrite it
 from scratch.o   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 10:57:05 +0000n0 From: andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>1 Subject: Re: Sun UE10000 is *NOT* an HPC platform * Message-ID: <3A068E81.AA9DC60B@uk.sun.com>   "Main, Kerry" wrote: >   9 Kerry please don't as a Compaq employee lecture anyone on-, product quality and "ponying up to the bar".  H My collegue was the "proud owner" of a Compaq Armada Laptop that failed @ 4 times, he subsequently read a Gartner report published before G he aquired the machine telling him that the Armadas were sub-standard, e@ and had been for some time and Gartner were not advising anyone > to buy them at all until Compaq fixed the issues. Compaq were B so good at fixing the machine that he junked it and got a Toshiba.  @ What about the VAX9000, late, slow, unreliable. The first Alpha A boxes which used to brown out. One of the UK's biggest Insurance eA Companies kicked AlphaServers out because one totally browned out B in their machine room. Digital told them they shouldn't have been ? using a 3rd party Token Ring adaptor (which wasn't the cause ofr> the problem). Even if this had been the cause of the problem, ? Digital had sold the machines to be connected to the Customers ,' network which was of course Token Ring.a  A How about the MP MIPS Ultrix Box I think it was called something  D like the 3800, sold by Digital as a SMP 2 CPU machine, won business A from Sun and HP etc on that basis, delivered with 1 CPU and when R< the 2and CPU turned up belatedly the machine generally went @ slower with 2 CPU's than with 1. An irate edu customer suggestedA that if turning off the 2and CPU made the machine go quicker theneA perhaps turning off the 1st CPU would make the machine go as faste5 as Digital claimed it would when they sold it to him.      Regardsc Andrew Harrison  Enterprise IT Architectm   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:44:19 +0000i0 From: andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com>1 Subject: Re: Sun UE10000 is *NOT* an HPC platformt) Message-ID: <3A06DFE3.3AAC22B@uk.sun.com>s   Rob Young wrote: > _ > In article <3A069E60.46CBF7D7@uk.sun.com>, andrew harrison <andrew.nospam@uk.sun.com> writes:m > > Rob Young wrote: > = > >> > The Oak Ridge system is an evaluation system, the ES40 ; > >> > cluster at Pitsburg is still being installed. Do you0# > >> > really want me to go on. [?]q > >>N > >>         Yes do go on.  The Pittsburgh system is still under construction.N > >>         The Aussie system was in place for a while and running acceptanceQ > >>         testing and probably couldn't stay up long enough to pass the tests.lQ > >>         Care to wager whether or not the Pittsburgh system passes acceptanceC9 > >>         testing?  Or better yet, how about this one:c > >> > >IE > > "Probably" you have no idea why it failed its acceptance tests do B > > you. You are just FUDDING again. Come on Rob do better this isF > > bad even for you or are you having the old "cut and paste" problem& > > again that like your eBay FUDDING. > >s > K >         But wait... they are re-issuing the bid.  Since there are severaleE >         other HPC UE10000s below the Aussies in the Top 500, can we G >         assume they passed their accpetance testing?  If so, then theoC >         Aussies can't get their software to run?  Don't think so.sH >         You see Andrew, there are very few avenues of choice here.  DoD >         you think we should suppose they are being hung-up by someC >         third party product?  But yes, I am taking a chance therebE >         aren't I by stating "probably".  I was also taking a chance G >         in December 1999 when I assumed that the Sun UE10000 problemscK >         were "long-standing" problems and wouldn't be going away any timeCL >         soon.  Of course I used very little projection there.  After all ,O >         the Gartner folks had shown us the "light" and we learned a whole lotuQ >         more in August 2000 regarding just how hard Sun was going about keeping  >         this quiet.n > G Rob you don't know what caused the Aussie system to fail its acceptanceoH tests any more that I know why none of the Compaq systems listed on the = Top500 list above Sun (and the GS320 cluster) are also not inL production.   E We can all FUD as much as we like on this basis. I could for example iD if I was prepared to stoop to this say "why arn't any of the Compaqs@ clusters in production, perhaps its because they cannot get the A clusters to work". But that would be ill informed FUD wouldn't it     M >         But back to your FUD you introduced here.  You raise the PittsburghoI >         project and ignoring the facts it is under construction attempti >         to equate the two. >   = But as you know it isn't FUD is it Rob, the Pittsburg System  @ isn't in production is it. Had my statement included allegations; like your did as to the reasons why it isn't in production ,; then you could have accused me of FUDDING, but I didn't didt I.   So nice try, no FUD.  ) > http://www.psc.edu/machines/tcs/status/e >  >         Questions to you:c > I >                 1)  Do you think the Pittsburgh site will have problems.2 >                         with acceptance testing? > < Why not on the basis of your FUD I would be quite justified ; in saying, of course they will have difficulties. But this d1 would be FUD wouldn't it, just like your posting.9    J >                 2)  Do you think Sun has a snow ball's chance in hell of> >                         winning the second go round at APAC?; >                         http://nf.apac.edu.au/facilities/  > 5 More FUD, I don't know and neither do you, again all  / you are trying to do is get something to stick.     ? > > Rob you are really grasping at straws, "a little bird tellsl1 > > me" come on even by your standards this poor.u > >g > H >         Your opinion.  It is either a good source or a bad source.  ItK >         is either accurate or it isn't.  Tell us your view.  We have comelG >         to know your opinion here.  Of course, as others point out weEK >         know to look real hard at EXACTLY opposite of what you are sayinge- >         as being more in-line with reality.  > = I don't know if its accurate or not, but then neither do you s< do you. It isn't up to me to prove or disprove the validity  of your source, its up to you. i  A At the moment all you appear to be doing is relaying every littleO= snippet, half truth, rumour in the hope that some of the mud t will stick.   @ Its a tactic much more at home in the newsrooms of the National % Enquirer or the Sport here in the UK.t  
 > > <Snip> > >i8 > > The eCache FUD isn't getting you anywhere is it, you: > > keep FUDDING and FUDDING digging and digging but sadly7 > > for you its the same story every time. Each of your 4 > > posts is simply a re-hash of a previous posting,! > > nothing new turns up does it.r > A >         You are having a problem with realities and facts here.e- >         You state: "same story every time." F >         This is far from the case Andrew.  Take a look at the ForbesG >         story for example.  It is from their November 13, 2000 issue.gI >         Last I checked the calendar says November 6, 2000.  For someone F >         that is dredging up "old news" ;-) and using the "same storyF >         every time" it is rather convenient that the Forbes story isF >         just now hitting the newsstands.  Andrew, might I suggest ifI >         you are going to *attempt* to write/post counter-points to whatdL >         I say *please* *please* attempt to use some angle that is a little >         more plausible.a > = So tell me what the Forbes article said that is new news Rob,r  3 Gama radiation (not new news) there was an article  0 citing research CERN is doing on this which was  posting to this newsgroup.2 Static (not new news) it been covered extensively.4 ECC (its in the design specs for the UltraII) so its/ hardly news and the jury is out on this anyway..1 Component problems with Sun ecache, not new news.m  2 Please Rob don't accuse me of being implausible on3 this newsgroup, I know that the backing choir will a2 support you, but your track record of plausability is lets say poor at the best.   8 Spiralog, Galaxies, ISV enthusisam for OpenVMS, WildFire6 whipping everyones ass, EV6/7 and I almost forgot the 6 little Cut an Paste mistake in your FUD Sun over eBays outage.n     Regardsi Andrew Harrison6 Enterprise IT Architecti   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:49:52 +0100 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>b Subject: Re: Time Zone) Message-ID: <3A069AE0.B7B6713A@gtech.com>p   Robert Meyer wrote:pN > When the time changed this past weekend, the only server needing a set clockM > was the Alpha server operating 7.2.  Is there a parameter in sysgen for the=B > Time Zone.  I would like to sleep in next time the time changes.  > If you install DECnet phase V/OSI/Plus, then it should happend automatically.   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Nov 2000 07:50:12 GMT=3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)e0 Subject: Re: VAX Mail question - corrupted files0 Message-ID: <8u5nrk$5ke$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  D In article <8u15ph02meu@drn.newsguy.com>, old_timer@user.vms writes:
 >JF wrote: >>O >>If I were you, i would generate a file that would contain numbered lines such  >>as:, >>L >>0001----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7L >>0002----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7L >>0003----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7 >>P >>etc all the way to 9999. (extend the lines to perhaps 99 characters per line). >>N >>Then send it often enough to duplicate the problem 3 times. You will then beP >>able to compare the results with the original and have a very good idea if the" >>files "break" at the same place. >nQ >Thanks for the excellent suggestion, but I have already done that.  As explained.O >in earlier posts, the corruption occurs randomly (and sparsely) throughout thee? >file, in different places each time, and sometimes not at all.s >  >There is no pattern.,  : But you didn't explain yet what the corruption exactly is:! - additional characters inserted?t$   - non-printable or printable ones? - characters left out? - lines randomly wrapped?d - complete lines left out?   - only single lines?   - whole blocks of lines? ...a   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann1  H -----------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Nov 2000 15:35:46 GMTu2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)  Subject: Re: VMSINSTALL Question5 Message-ID: <8u6j4i$tb$2@mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com>h  k In article <OF0C4B2AAA.3B23EA0A-ON80256988.0053F356@qedi.quintiles.com>, steven.reece@quintiles.com writes:dM :Could it be because most VMS system managers wouldn't trust it to do things n :properly on VMS?t ..C :Fabio (fabio_compaq at ep-bc dot petrobras dot com dot br) wrote :uG :>>>Just to imagine  ... a few years ago I read that Install Shield waseK :developing a version of it's program to Solaris. Why not to OpenVMS too  ?r  I   The Install Shield tool is likely going to be a non-starter on OpenVMS.t  J   PCSI, VMSINSTAL and (for really old VAX kits) VMSUPDATE are the default H   (and integrated) mechanisms for installing software on OpenVMS, and I K   would tend to expect you will be seeing a more portable and standardized pF   installer (the COE segment installer) appearing across a variety of +   COE-targeted operating system platforms.    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:53:28 +0100h= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> " Subject: Re: What OpenVMS version?) Message-ID: <3A069BB8.311E9538@gtech.com>0   Michal Grotthuss wrote:iF > Does anybody know what is the highest supported OpenVMS version thatB > might be run on DEC 3000/M800 machine with the lastest installed > firmware (i.e. v 5.8)?  1 The latest VMS Alpha should run fin eon this box.o  A > Does anybody know what could it mean? Do I need to downgrade myhF > OpenVMS version? If so, what is the highest version I may install on > my DEC 3000/M800 machine?r  4 I think you should try studying patch descriptions ?   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 06 Nov 2000 18:42:41 GMT# From: casinoop2@aol.com (CasinoOp2)d3 Subject: Re: Windows NT to OpenVMS access questionsd: Message-ID: <20001106134241.11244.00000004@ng-cg1.aol.com>   >Do not be confused ...lH >client capacity is just a value to size system parameters on a basis of >a  M I could easily be confused, but I think that I have everything enabled on the3M server. The funny thing is the PC acts like it cannot even find the server to-O request a license from. I guess I am not sure what is required in order for theeM PC to "find" the server. What is it looking for? I know it is there, it has acM TCP/IP address and DECnet node and address. I can login and it answers PINGs.s' How can I find out what is going wrong?k     Clark Calkinso   Schafer Corp   ccalkins@schafercorp.com   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.621 ************************