1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 18 Nov 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 645       Contents: Re: CDE Front Panel , Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!!, Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!!, Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!!, Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!! Re: Employment, Los Angeles  Re: Employment, Los Angeles # florida cobol ingres vax vms wanted 9 Re: Forcasting the Tropical Year - the Laskar expression? 9 Re: Forcasting the Tropical Year - the Laskar expression? 9 Re: Forcasting the Tropical Year - the Laskar expression? 8 Free menu-driven interface to DCPS (DECprint Supervisor)4 Installing OpenVMS on AXPPci33 - No SYS$CPU_ROUTINES' See Britney's TITS!               21955  Re: Technology of US Elections Re: Technology of US elections RE: Technology of US Elections+ Re: Technology of US elections - PSEPHOLOGY  USB PORT Re: USB PORTG [FREEWARE] MAILBOX : MIME-enabled user-friendly mail client for OpenVMS   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 09:18:31 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> Subject: Re: CDE Front Panel+ Message-ID: <VA.00000184.00464ee3@sture.ch>   G In article <20001116212556.18174.00000265@ng-fi1.aol.com>, Sk388 wrote:  > From: sk388@aol.com (Sk388)  > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms   > Date: 17 Nov 2000 02:25:56 GMT > Subject: CDE Front Panel >  > Folks,Q > I have a DEC 3000 model 600 running OpenVMS 7.2.  I would like to modify my CDE B > Front Panel.  Where at in the software do you go to modify this? > O What do you want to modify? Many items can be modified by clicking on the icon  Q with the mouse, colour palette and TTT (getting smaller). IIRC the help is quite  ! useful here - the icon with the ?  ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 07:23:12 +0100   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>5 Subject: Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!! + Message-ID: <VA.00000180.0c78322f@sture.ch>   F In article <3A14924B.83428804@earthlink.net>, David J. Dachtera wrote:9 > From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>  > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms 7 > Subject: Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!! ' > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:04:59 -0600  >  > Island Computers wrote:  > > 7 > > Mouse and Bleedin' Keyboard - That's our margin !!!  > ' > Microsoft V2.0 2-button mouse: $51.22 9 > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=115530  > , > IBM Rapid Access 104 keyboard Black $68.309 > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=185611  > : > Now, if I added that right, it comes to $119.52 (retail) >  > THAT'S your margin, huh? >   " Really David, you are talking rot.  E My latest 2 button "wheelie" PC mouse cost about 16 USD. About twice  ; that for the Logitech keyboard I am typing on. Full retail.   < In Switzerland too. Not exactly the cheapest place on earth!  B > Actually, those aren't the "best" prices I could find. You couldE > actually get BOTH a mouse AND a keyboard for less than the MS mouse  > alone. Crap, like you said...  > ( > Then again, those ARE retail prices... > G Well, I can only speak as one happy Islandco customer. David gave me a  B damn good price on the Alpha which is sitting here - I could have ? easily spent much more on a "quality" PC, even at trade prices.   F Sure, I could have got a commodity PC cheaper, but then I'd have been F running around in circles replacing bits of hardware which don't work D with Linux and / or NT, adding memory, a new mouse, keyboard maybe. G Certainly wasting a load of time trying to locate and download drivers   for the various components...   G What's more, I got good service from David. For starters he burned the  G thing in over the weekend before shipping it. It arrived well packaged  - and promptly, and was exactly what I ordered.   A Your average commodity PC dealer would just ship the box without   opening it.    ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:09:08 GMT ( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>5 Subject: Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!! ' Message-ID: <G47wB8.94p@spcuna.spc.edu>   7 David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes: H > VMS-capable hardware at less than $500 U.S. is not a question of "if",J > it's a question of when. The first one with enough brass in his balls toF > make it happen will become the next Bill Gates - or at least a close
 > competitor.   H   Sure. Been there, did that - a whole load of the Onsale AS200 4/233's,K 64MB of commodity 72-pin memory, a 1GB ST31200N disk, econo keyboard (BTC),   mouse (Logitech), monitor (CTX).  G   Of course, since then I've purchased a bunch of new DS10's to replace J these systems, along with add-on Compaq disks and a DLT80000, but the out-K of-the-starting-gate price for the complete AS200 was under $500 a year and  a half (or more, I forget) ago.   4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Nov 2000 09:28:30 -0500/ From: jordan@lisa.gemair.com (Jordan Henderson) 5 Subject: Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!! * Message-ID: <8v63me$bme$1@lisa.gemair.com>  - In article <3A15FE20.B78CB2A0@earthlink.net>, 6 David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote: >Terry Kennedy wrote:  >>  : >> Paul Repacholi <prep@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> writes:@ >> > If he offered them free, I guess it would be having to open' >> > the front door to bring them in...  >>  J >>   While I've killfiled them due to prior advertising practices, I thinkH >> you're right about not being able to please some of the people any of >> the time [snip] > F >Well, actually yes - you can please (at least this person) - you justA >have to be willing to break through your own self-made barriers.  > 1 >I'm reminded of a line from the movie "Volcano":  > I >Tommy Lee Jones's character "Mike Rourke" is faced with two young female F >geologists after an unusual occurance in a downtown Los Angeles park.H >When presented with the prospect of "magma" under the streets of LA, heH >asks one scientist, "Do we have a history of that here?" in response toE >which the other scientist cites some related anecdotes then remarks, G >"There's never a history of anything until it happens, then there is".  > G >VMS-capable hardware at less than $500 U.S. is not a question of "if", I >it's a question of when. The first one with enough brass in his balls to E >make it happen will become the next Bill Gates - or at least a close  >competitor. >   E Oh, right.  The guy who brings us VMS-capable hardware at < $500 will : be "the next Bill Gates - or at least a close competitor".  D Forget for a moment that nobody selling commodity hardware at razor @ thin margins makes very much money.  Don't tell me about MichaelA Dell or Ted Waitt.  They made their money on > $1500 machines and " still sell mostly ~$1000 machines.  = Reality check time!  That sterling example of selling < $500  B commodity hardware, eMachines, that you like to hold up as someoneD who's doing WinTel commodity hardware "right" while Compaq is asleep at the switch, is losing money.   J I can only assume that you see that the vendor who sells these devices as I making up their razor thin margins it up with major volume.  So, I guess  N your vision is that while now we have Wintel boxes in some 60% of the houses, K we'll have this wonderful VMS-capable hardware in 150% of the houses (it's  * just so good, that grandma had to buy 2!).  @ Why, there's just so much that average Joe Home user can do withA VMS, it will surely make those who provide the commodity hardware 9 a Billionaire dozens of times over, just like Bill Gates!   = Even if this scenario had some semblance of reality, there's  < absolutely no reason to believe the first one to do it would> make lots of money.  If this could be done, and turn a profit,= there's nothing about doing it that couldn't be duplicated by ; a lot of other people.  Which is exactly the problem facing ) all the commodity hardware manufacturers.   C >Your mission, Jim, should you decide to accept it, is to make that 2 >happen before I do, or before someone else does.  > ; >Many will try. Most will fail, stifled by their own greed.  >  >How will it be with you?  >   ; You know David, the credibility of "Affordable VMS" (TM) is ? associated with your credibility.  When you say such ridiculous < things like "whoever first makes < $500 VMS-capable hardware? will be the next Bill Gates, or a close competitor", it doesn't  do "Affordable VMS" any favors.    >--  >David J. Dachtera >dba DJE Systems >http://www.djesys.com/  > ; >Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board:   >http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ > G >This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings  >is to be expected.  > A >Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  > G >However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are  >strongly discouraged.  C I hope you correctly interpret this as an attack on an position you  hold and not on you personally.    -Jordan Henderson  jordan@greenapple.com    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Nov 2000 07:00:40 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) 5 Subject: Re: Complete Alpha for Less than $900!!!!!!! , Message-ID: <s18WD0CgKJE9@malvm1.mala.bc.ca>  . In article <3A1474C0.257E6BC2@earthlink.net>, <    "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> writes: >>  B >> We managed it - a working hobbyist Alpha PWS for less than $9003 >> (excluding shipping and applicable taxes if any)  > J > O.k. So maybe a monitor included *IS* too much to ask. They abound quite/ > affordably in the used/refurb market, anyway.  > 	 > ...but:  > H > Geez, Guys! Would it KILL you to include the mouse and keyboard ???!!! >   -    Hey, these are VMS systems, not WinDoze !!   3    They don't need no steenkin' keyboard and mouse.   *    Hook up a VT320 to the serial port  :-)   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:11:38 GMT $ From: schiffkey@home.com (schiffkey)$ Subject: Re: Employment, Los Angeles$ Message-ID: <3a16a9e2.12585336@news>   help!  i need info    jerrold   < On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:43:52 GMT, lisanel@my-deja.com wrote:  & >The company I work for needs some VMS0 >developers.  If you want to work in Los Angeles1 >(actually a little outside of Los Angeles), send 2 >a resume to lnelson@icius.com and I'll send it to	 >my boss.  > , >We need people who know the VMS and Windows1 >operating systems.  We need Basic, COBOL, Forte, , >and Visual Basic people.  SQL is good, too.0 >Access databases, SQLserver, and RMS files.  (I1 >think our more immediate need is for Basic/COBOL  >programmers.) > * >I'm not the person who hires.  I'm just a1 >developer myself, but if you send me your resume / >I promise to forward it to my boss, who is the  >owner of the company. >  >Lisa Twede  >Los Angeles >  > ' >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/  >Before you buy.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:12:03 GMT $ From: schiffkey@home.com (schiffkey)$ Subject: Re: Employment, Los Angeles$ Message-ID: <3a16a9f7.12606656@news>   you too, eh?   schiffkey@home.com  # On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:39:13 -0400, * yyyc186.illegaltospam_@flashcom.net wrote:  / >In <8t4sa6$pk5$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/24/00  * >   at 08:43 PM, lisanel@my-deja.com said: > > >You will probably get more replies if you post salary ranges. >  >Roland  > ' >>The company I work for needs some VMS 1 >>developers.  If you want to work in Los Angeles 2 >>(actually a little outside of Los Angeles), send3 >>a resume to lnelson@icius.com and I'll send it to 
 >>my boss. > - >>We need people who know the VMS and Windows 2 >>operating systems.  We need Basic, COBOL, Forte,- >>and Visual Basic people.  SQL is good, too. 1 >>Access databases, SQLserver, and RMS files.  (I 2 >>think our more immediate need is for Basic/COBOL >>programmers.)  > + >>I'm not the person who hires.  I'm just a 2 >>developer myself, but if you send me your resume0 >>I promise to forward it to my boss, who is the >>owner of the company.  >  >>Lisa Twede
 >>Los Angeles  >  > ( >>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >>Before you buy.  >-- < >-----------------------------------------------------------E >yyyc186@flashcom.net              To Respond delete ".illegaltospam" 7 >                            MR/2 Internet Cruiser 2.2a 9 >                            For a Microsoft free univers < >----------------------------------------------------------- >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:13:59 GMT $ From: schiffkey@home.com (schiffkey), Subject: florida cobol ingres vax vms wanted$ Message-ID: <3a16aa59.12705072@news>   wanted position in florida# florida cobol ingres vax vms wanted    schiffkey@Home.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:46:56 GMT + From: Ric Werme <werme@nospam.mediaone.net> B Subject: Re: Forcasting the Tropical Year - the Laskar expression?= Message-ID: <kLvR5.10496$M51.3131775@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>    Jerome Fine wrote:  < > More specifically, I am requesting help on evaluating just> > how the decrease in the Tropical Year from its current value6 > of 365.242190 days or 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes,: > 45.2 seconds will affect the number of leap years needed > in the future.  L I missed the original post, but didn't bother to look for it.  I'm mystified- as to how you selected your Newsgroups: list.   H I assume you're talking about the the Earth slowing down.  That's due toJ a transfer of angular momentum from the Earth to the Moon.  It has nothingL to do with the length of the tropical year, except maybe for some 2nd or 3rd( order effects I'm not too familiar with.  D The second is defined as a number of atomic vibrations or some such.J Unless the Earth's orbit changes, the period of the orbit will not change.I The _tropical_ year is affected by the "precession of the equinoxes", the E sidereal year is not.  As the Moon moves away, I suspect the tropical H year will get closer to the sidereal, but that's one of those 2nd or 3rd order effects.  H What you really want to be talking about is the length of the day, whichF is affected by mass of snow and ice near the poles, how far you travelH east/west over the course of a day, probably motion of the Earth's core,D etc.  The big one is the Earth/Moon momentum transfer.  I don't knowH off hand what the model polynomials or differential equations look like,H so I'd suggest doing a WWW search.  For your lifetime, you might be ableD extrapolate rate of future leap seconds from the historical log, but" the result won't be very accurate.  F As far as the impact to the OS world, leap seconds are declared on theI basis of observations, they can't be predicted accurately, so no software  I know of bothers to try.  --@ Ric Werme                            | werme@nospam.mediaone.net; http://people.ne.mediaone.net/werme  |       ^^^^^^^ delete    ------------------------------  ! Date: Sat, 18 Nov 00 13:29:23 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.com B Subject: Re: Forcasting the Tropical Year - the Laskar expression?+ Message-ID: <8v63so$dco$2@bob.news.rcn.net>   = In article <kLvR5.10496$M51.3131775@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, /    Ric Werme <werme@nospam.mediaone.net> wrote:  <snip science lesson>   G >As far as the impact to the OS world, leap seconds are declared on the J >basis of observations, they can't be predicted accurately, so no software >I know of bothers to try.    @ Thank goodness.  This year Billy apparently thought that backingC out of Savings Time meant advancing one day two days later.  I have > no idea his margin of error would be if the accuracy had to be= based on fractions of a second.  Can you tell that I'm still  ; disgruntled after having dueling DATE commands on this shit 	 of an OS?    /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------   Date: 18 Nov 2000 15:02:41 GMT( From: brian-DOT-mcneil@easynet.be (BMcN)B Subject: Re: Forcasting the Tropical Year - the Laskar expression?+ Message-ID: <8FF0AE07FBMcN@212.100.160.123>   2 Hey! jmfbahciv@aol.com you went and wrote message G <8v63so$dco$2@bob.news.rcn.net> and forced me to type some nonsense in e response...L  > >In article <kLvR5.10496$M51.3131775@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,0 >   Ric Werme <werme@nospam.mediaone.net> wrote: ><snip science lesson> >hH >>As far as the impact to the OS world, leap seconds are declared on theK >>basis of observations, they can't be predicted accurately, so no softwaree >>I know of bothers to try.c >i >tA >Thank goodness.  This year Billy apparently thought that backingiD >out of Savings Time meant advancing one day two days later.  I have? >no idea his margin of error would be if the accuracy had to beP> >based on fractions of a second.  Can you tell that I'm still < >disgruntled after having dueling DATE commands on this shit
 >of an OS? >e >/BAH  > ( >Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. >   L If this is such an issue for people, why not use a NIST time server? Surely J that would resolve leap seconds and stupid implementations of saving time D changeovers. There are even freeware utilities to handle this on M$  operating systems. -- :+ Reply to brian<dot>mcneil<at>easynet<dot>be4  - The crux of the biscuit is the Apostrophe (')6 - F.Z.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:34:16 GMT  From: spolato@my-deja.com A Subject: Free menu-driven interface to DCPS (DECprint Supervisor)o) Message-ID: <8v6eio$q7h$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   C Would you like to give your users a simple menu-driven interface toi DCPS ?@ If yes, download your free of charge MenuFinder for OpenVMS from" http://itre.com/mf/overview.html .  : After the installation of MenuFinder perform the command : $ menu tutorG and see the sample of a menu-driven interface to DCPS choosing the itemS 13.   G MenuFinder is a powerful tool to build menu driven interfaces for users: and system managers.  D MenuFinder is free and unlimited for any number of VAXes and for one AXP system per company..  ! i3 - Italian Internet Informationt i3@itre.comB& tel +39 049 8931238 fax +39 049 895871      & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.k   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:25:48 -0500t& From: "Mike Burch" <mgburch@smart.net>= Subject: Installing OpenVMS on AXPPci33 - No SYS$CPU_ROUTINESo/ Message-ID: <t1di964umut3a0@corp.supernews.com>   K When I boot the install CD ('BOOT DKA400') it starts OK, but then dies withcA an error saying it can't find the file SYS$CPU_ROUTINES_0B04.EXE.cJ Sure enough, if I do a DIR looking for such a file (on another machine) it does not exist on the CD.   H I have flashed the latest firmware from the DEC ftp site but that didn't help.o" I have tried both 7.0 and 7.2 CDs.  H Any ideas?  Do I need some special boot flags or params?  I can do a minE boot of the CD, show/set params and continue, after which, it dies asx explained above.  L I was told this alpha would run OpenVMS, but now I'm not so sure.  I know itJ was originally sold with both NT and OSF/1, neither of which interests me.  L There *are* many cpu routines exe files with other hex suffixes.  Any chance one of these would work?I I assume that the file name is generated by the install but where does ittI get the hex suffix?  From the MLB? From the firmware?  If the firmware, I D could possibly hack the rom image with a binary editor and re-flash.  G I hope someone can help because I was really wanting an OpenVMS system!n   ------------------------------  * Date: Saturday, 18 Nov 2000 01:01:59 -0600 From: sandylh@mindspring.com0 Subject: See Britney's TITS!               21955* Message-ID: <18110001.0159@mindspring.com>   http://www.hotasscelebs.comg   Check out these hot celebs!  e   SEE BRITNEY SPEARS NUDE!   1000s of pics!   XXX HARDCORE  	 NO FAKES!d   http://www.hotasscelebs.com            


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   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:38:05 GMTo  From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@home.com>' Subject: Re: Technology of US Elections-8 Message-ID: <k21d1tcoahaujobtujpp4tisferbroua3g@4ax.com>  @ On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:52:16 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:D  L >Personally, I find this whole situation laughable.  The democrats have beenL >pushing the new technology agenda (internet/computer access for schools andL >the "lower classes" -- hey, their term not mine) and yet, when it suits theK >goal of pushing Al into office, technology is not to be trusted and is not  >"good enough".  Hippocrits. t  @ The hypocracy goes even deeper with the dems.  Last night it wasE announced that the count of absentee ballots was near completion, andoC that Bush had over 1000, and Gore had just over 500... but that thes? dems fought to have some ballots disqualified because they wered mis-postmarked.   E What a crock!  First, they demand a manual recount to ensure that the : will of the voters is determined correctly, then they have@ un-favorable ballots disqualified for a *minor* technicality (inA comparison to the "technicality" of people not doing their voting- correctly at all).  , They are so transparent, it's almost insane.  1 Not speaking for anyone, certainly not DEC/Compaqm- (get rid of the xxxx in my address to e-mail)-   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Nov 2000 08:08 CSTA' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)e' Subject: Re: Technology of US electionsK- Message-ID: <18NOV200008081304@gerg.tamu.edu>o  ^ In article <3A15F71F.8A6067C3@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes...
 }jlsue wrote:tE }> Bullshit.  In this country, this is really just a little blip.  It I }> would be barely noticed if the news media didn't keep playing it up int# }> an attempt to gain market share.> } J }Governments would be irrelevant if they were emprisoned in some big whiteG }house for 4 years and not reported on and not allowed to do anything. r% }(Perhaps that would be a good thing)m } N }So how the media reports on what a government does is critical to a democracyI }because that is how governmnet are made accountable to their electorate.sH }Hence, if CNN is having a field day reporting on how each vote is beingN }counted or debated in Florida and how it affects the whole democracy issue inL }the USA, then that is how the electorate will see it, and more importantly,5 }that is how other nations will see this whole issue.e } H }> The "clear majority" issue is also crap (assuming that you're talking" }> about majority of popula vote). }  } M }No, I am talking about the ability of a government leader to push though hismL }agenda, and more importantly, the ability of a leader to domestically enact% }international commitments he makes. aL }The POTUS won't have much credibility internationally if his administrationK }doesn't have enough powr in its houses to pass whatever laws are needed tonK }enact international deals. If the POTUS doesn't have support domestically,tD }whatever arms/peace/commercial deal he signs with another nation isM }meaningless to that other nation because the odds of such a deal passing are0 }not very high.d } M }A government without a clear legislative majority is essentially a lame duckhJ }government for the duration of the mandate. I the parlementary systems, aO }minority government rarely lasts the 4-5 years mandate it gets. It either getsgJ }a vote of non confidence forcing a new election, or will call an electionM }early if it feels it can increase the number of seats to gain a majority, so ( }the "lame duck" rarely lasts very long.  J President Clinton is a Democrat. Both the House and Senate have Republican8 majorities. This has been the case for the last 8 years.  F It has been rare in the last half century (at least) for the PresidentH to be of the same party that has had a majority in congress, and when it0 has happened the majority has been rather small.   The whole thing is irrelevant.   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:58:47 +0000o8 From: John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk>' Subject: RE: Technology of US Elections L Message-ID: <35666012DF4CD411BE940090279FA240111FD2@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk>  I There's a tendency to blame people for not voting correctly. I'd guess in I this US Election about 1% of the blame lies with the people who voted andaJ 99% with the misuse of technology in the voting and counting system. ThoseD numbers are only correct within the error limits which have not been6 measured. But that little 1% is a hard nut to crack...  I Even very simple ballot papers requiring the marking of a cross against aBG candidate's name can cause, perhaps momentary, confusion for the voter.aH Firstly, the polling booth will probably be the first time the voter hasK seen the precise form of that particular ballot paper. Secondly, there will:H very likely be more candidate's names on the ballot paper than expected.I Thirdly, the candidate's popular name may not appear but the offical namerJ e.g. Algernon Gore-Bushwhacker rather than Al Gore. Fourthly, the officialK name of the political party may be unfamiliar. Those four simple factors do ) cause people to misvote in any election. t  I It's difficult to eliminate the above 1% but easy to solve the problem ofoH the other 99%. The US should regain its pioneering spirit and just do it  (without the lawyers of course)!  J I don't hear many people criticising the users when well-known PC software; misbehaves. Why do it when the US voting system misbehaves?c   John  B Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukH Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKA Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)p   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:33:44 +0010h% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.auy4 Subject: Re: Technology of US elections - PSEPHOLOGY5 Message-ID: <01JWP3PI386Q006SGM@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>e   Paul Sture wrote:   N >The problem with the UK postal vote is that you need to apply for it well in ) >advance - 6 weeks or more comes to mind.V >0L >It used to happen that a certain boss would send me to work 200 miles away N >from home every election day, always at short notice. I could not prove that O >he was doing it deliberately, but I _did_ lose my vote every time due to that.     Q O.K., so apply automatically anyway when there was a forthcoming election. IIRC, yQ you didn't have to use it.  But since it always seemed to rain on election days, u. it would save you a trek in the carbonic acid.    < It's 20 years (almost), so I can't remember all the details.   Regards, Paddy   Paddy O'Brien, Transmission Development,s
 TransGrid, PO Box A1000, Sydney South,  NSW 2000, AustraliaL   Tel:   +61 2 9284-3063 Fax:   +61 2 9284-3050& Email: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au  M Either "\'" or "\s" (to escape the apostrophe) seems to work for most people,'; but that little whizz-bang apostrophe gives me little spam.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:06:55 GMT  From: mweston5848@my-deja.com  Subject: USB PORTe) Message-ID: <8v5rcu$d8c$1@nnrp1.deja.com>u  D I own a Compaq Presario 7360. I am a novice to computers. Can anyoneH tell me whether this computer has a USB port? How can I tell? Thank you. Michael Weston    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 09:17:57 -0500o, From: Howard S Shubs <hshubs@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: USB PORT > Message-ID: <hshubs-C49609.09175718112000@news.mindspring.com>  H In article <8v5rcu$d8c$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, mweston5848@my-deja.com wrote:  E >I own a Compaq Presario 7360. I am a novice to computers. Can anyoneeI >tell me whether this computer has a USB port? How can I tell? Thank you.l   You should try a IBM PC group. -- y Howard S ShubsD "Run in circles, scream and shout!"  "I hope you have good backups!"   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 14:19:47 +0100>5 From: "Patrick LE QUERE" <patrick@NOSPAM.lequere.net>nP Subject: [FREEWARE] MAILBOX : MIME-enabled user-friendly mail client for OpenVMS+ Message-ID: <8v5vk4$6pk$1@news5.isdnet.net>y   Hi all,f    Announcing MAILBOX for OpenVMS !  L MAILBOX is a powerful and user friendly e-mail client for the COMPAQ OpenVMS operating system.    > Requirements  3     - OpenVMS (Vax or Alpha) version 6.0 or greater      - TCP/IP stack  I MAILBOX has been tested on the following configurations : OpenVMS VAX and J Alpha, versions 7.1, 7.1-2, 7.2-1, with Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS 4.2 and 5.0.  
 > Features  H     - Sending messages : MAILBOX is MIME-compliant software : it enablesL sending messages with attachments. TO and CC recipients are supported, alongK with BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) recipients. MAILBOX selects the best transportuE protocol to use depending on the message to send. Simple messages are0L transported by VMSMail, as messages sent with the OpenVMS MAIL utility. RichG messages with BCC recipients and/or attachments are sent using the SMTPo	 protocol.6  G     - Reading messages : MAILBOX enables reading and printing text onlytJ messages as well as MIME-encoded messages. Attachments are displayed along6 with their MIME type and can be easily saved to files.  G     - Managing messages with folders : Messages may be easily stored in L different folders. Deleted messages are sent to a folder called WASTEBASKET,6 enabling the user to easily retreive deleted messages.  K     - Replying and forwarding messages : MAILBOX is tightly integrated withoF OpenVMS and uses the EVE editor for writing messages. When replying or2 forwarding a message, original text may be quoted.E Personnal addressbook : MAILBOX features a personnal addressbook thatu0 simplifies managing often used e-mail addresses.  E     - Printing : Messages, folder contents and list of folders may be / printed using both text or PostScript printers.t  K     - Online Help : MAILBOX features a comprehensive and VMS compliant helpe5 system, available at your fingertips from any screen.i  J     - VMSMail compatibility : while bringing exciting features, MAILBOX isK fully compatible with the OpenVMS classic MAIL utility. Your mailbox is notoK affected by the use of MAILBOX. Messages may be sent, read and managed with3I both MAIL and MAILBOX. Moreover, MAILBOX may use MAIL distribution lists.h  H     - Multilingual user interface : MAILBOX user-friendly character-cellJ interface supports multiple languages. The current language can be changedI without quitting and restarting MAILBOX. Translating MAILBOX into another'  language is a matter of minutes.   > Availability  9 MAILBOX is free software and available for downloading atc http://patrick.lequere.net< It will (hopefully) be part of the next OpenVMS freeware CD.  @ Although MAILBOX has been thoroughly tested, it is considered asH beta-quality software. Please send bug reports to patrick(AT)lequere.net  J  This software is delivered "as is", I am not responsible for any problems or damage caused by the use of  this software.   G Permission to use, copy and distribute this software for non-commercial K purposes, is hereby granted without fee, providing that the above copyright0H notice appears in all copies and that both the copyright notice and this9 permission notice appear in any supporting documentation.$  H No cost can be charged for distribution, installation or support of this	 software.    -- Patrick LE QUERE http://patrick.lequere.net   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.645 ************************