1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 22 Oct 2000	Volume 2000 : Issue 590       Contents: (no subject), Alpha PWS600au Hobbyist Systems in stock now Re: Apache with VMS 7.3 3 Re: Encompass Bylaw Ballot: THE ENVELOPE, PLEASE... 3 Re: Encompass Bylaw Ballot: THE ENVELOPE, PLEASE... 3 Re: Encompass Bylaw Ballot: THE ENVELOPE, PLEASE...  Re: Handling oddball disks Re: Handling oddball disks% Re: New OpenVMS Freeware Submissions?  Re: PDF under OpenVMS  Re: PDF under OpenVMS  Re: PDF under OpenVMS  Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?  Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit? " Re: Stockholm Exchange OM and VMS?" Re: Stockholm Exchange OM and VMS? Re: Sun "uptime" belly laugher Re: Sun "uptime" belly laugher Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS) Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS) Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS) Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS) Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS) Re: video card info at  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 12:14:32 -0700 + From: Jack Kings <jmkings@worldnet.att.net>  Subject: (no subject) 0 Message-ID: <39F1EB18.4E1B11C3@worldnet.att.net>   unsubscribe info-vax   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:20:57 -0400 - From: "Island Computers" <sales@islandco.com> 5 Subject: Alpha PWS600au Hobbyist Systems in stock now / Message-ID: <sv41p9td36dr05@corp.supernews.com>   - We now have 600Mhz Personal Workstations also   - Systems price is $3199 configured as follows:    Alpha PWS600au with 4mb cache  512mb memory
 Floppy 1.44mb  9.1Gb Disk U2Wide SCSI LP  32X SCSI CD-ROM  10/100 Ethernet card Elsa Gloria Synergy 8Mb PCI  LK461-AA Keyboard for VMS  3 Button Mouse  # Serious system for Serious Users...   * Call us, email us etc on the numbers below     Island Computers US Corporation  2700 Gregory Street  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622  Fax:912 201 0096 sales@islandco.com www.islandco.com   ------------------------------   Date: 21 Oct 2000 15:54:31 PDTT From: Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515)  Subject: Re: Apache with VMS 7.33 Message-ID: <+OrlTuJwtDmc@mccdev.slac.stanford.edu>   < In article <39f0d82b.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>, 9     	martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender) writes:   J > Is anything already known as to whether Apache, ummm, excuse me, "CompaqH > Secure Web Server (based on Apache)", being the new product of choice,> > will replace Netscape FastTrack in the VMS 7.3 distribution?  H         Word from CETS 2000 indicates that  is, indeed, the case.  If myH     memory  serves,  CSWS (what an awful acronym!) will ship _with_  VMSH     7.3, but  will  be  separately  installable,  i.e.,  probably  on  a     separate CD.           -Ken --  M  Kenneth H. Fairfield            |  Internet: Fairfield@SLC.Slac.Stanford.Edu :  SLAC, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, MS 46  |  Voice:    650-926-2924:  Menlo Park, CA  94025           |  FAX:      650-926-3515N  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------B  These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Oct 2000 18:17:09 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) < Subject: Re: Encompass Bylaw Ballot: THE ENVELOPE, PLEASE...+ Message-ID: <K16vsHoh7WcB@eisner.decus.org>   _ In article <d1vI5WTVKw2E@eisner.decus.org>, kaplow_r@eisner.decus.org.mars (Bob Kaplow) writes:   K > And what will we be left with if the bylaws pass, and the ammendments get K > the same percentage vote as the bylaws did in the last election? The same - > piece-of-crap that we voted down last time.  > J > I still can't believe the arrogance of the board this time around. No, IM > don't want DECUS / Encompass / whatever to be history. But this just sucks.   = So vote "No" !  The Board of Directors has gone out on a limb = and claimed that what they passed is acceptable. If they have > failed in that regard, the only honest response is to vote No.  N > I'm really tempted to vote NO on the bylaws, and YES on all the ammendments.  8 I found one or two amendments that I also voted against.  N > Or just join the majority of the "membership" and sit out this election like > most did last time.   > Sitting out the election just sends a message of "apathy", not
 "opposition".    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:30:17 -0400 & From: "Jeff Killeen" <Jeff@IDM-IO.com>< Subject: Re: Encompass Bylaw Ballot: THE ENVELOPE, PLEASE...2 Message-ID: <8stfvn$ed7$1@slb2.atl.mindspring.net>  > >So vote "No" !  The Board of Directors has gone out on a limb> >and claimed that what they passed is acceptable. If they have? >failed in that regard, the only honest response is to vote No.   I If you choose to vote no please do so on informed basis with knowledge of G what will happen if this rejected.  The Board voted this through not as K referendum of whether these are prefect by-laws but instead a needed action I to continue to deliver the products and services of the User Group at the  national level.   G The burden of proof ought to be on the those opposed to demonstrate why E these by-laws are flawed. That burden of proof results from the given H consequences of what will happen should they not be approved.  I note toH date sweeping general statements about them being "piece-of-crap" but noI statements about why they are flawed.  If I was a voter I would take note L that those suggesting the possibility of voting seem to have offered nothingL in specific why there is a problem with these by-laws.  It appears like someF saying vote against Candidate X because he is member of the Bull MooseF party.  When then asked but what positions does the candidate have youK disagree with the response the position don't matter because he is a member  of the Bull Moose party.  J Require specific issues in the by-laws themselves from those asking you to vote no!       --      0 Jeff Killeen - www.Killeen.cc (All contact info)E =====================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:39:45 -0400 & From: "Jeff Killeen" <Jeff@IDM-IO.com>< Subject: Re: Encompass Bylaw Ballot: THE ENVELOPE, PLEASE...2 Message-ID: <8stgfu$p6h$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>   ---  ---  ---  ---   > >So vote "No" !  The Board of Directors has gone out on a limb> >and claimed that what they passed is acceptable. If they have? >failed in that regard, the only honest response is to vote No.   I If you choose to vote no please do so on informed basis with knowledge of G what will happen if this rejected.  The Board voted this through not as K referendum of whether these are prefect by-laws but instead a needed action I to continue to deliver the products and services of the User Group at the  national level.   G The burden of proof ought to be on the those opposed to demonstrate why E these by-laws are flawed. That burden of proof results from the given H consequences of what will happen should they not be approved.  I note toH date sweeping general statements about them being "piece-of-crap" but noH specific statements about why they are flawed.  If I was a voter I wouldI take note that those suggesting the possibility of voting no seem to have J offered nothing in specific why there is a problem with these by-laws.  ItB appears like someone saying vote against Candidate X because he isE member of the Bull Moose party.  When then asked - but what positions H does the candidate have you disagree with - the response is the positionG don't matter because the candidate is a member of the Bull Moose party.   J Require specific issues in the by-laws themselves from those asking you to vote no!       --      0 Jeff Killeen - www.Killeen.cc (All contact info)E =====================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:02:35 -0500 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> # Subject: Re: Handling oddball disks - Message-ID: <39F1DA3B.DB37CDBD@earthlink.net>    "Glenn C. Everhart" wrote: > I > I have been getting some oddball SCSI disk brands now and then and have  > found thatE > they worked erratically. Concluding that this was likely due to the  > drive not doing I > tagged queueing right, I tried using scsi_mode to set offset 03 of page 	 > 0a to 1 A > to disable it. Woe is me. My 3000-300LX box doesn't seem to run  > scsi_mode correctly  > (for whatever reaason).  > E > So I decided it made more sense to arrange that dkdriver should not  > attempt toJ > do tagged queueing on "generic" disks (i.e., the pc junk I was trying to > use).  > 8 > This might be of wider interest so here goes with how. [snip]  
 Hi, Glenn,  3 Is this something that can be entirely "automated"?   F That is, will VFE accept image data in a .COM proc., and will the same@ set of editor commands work for any variation of (SYS$)DKDRIVER?  D It would be nice if hobbyists could implement this without having toG muck about too much in the bowels of the driver just to enable use of a ) broader range of "non-certified" devices.   E Alternatively, could you modify various versions of DKDRIVER and make 4 them available for download (quietly, if necessary)?   Recommendation:   E OVMS Engineering should consider quietly adding this feature to their   driver code and not tell anyone.  H This might help quiet the critics who claim that "ClosedVMS" is so lame,F it can't even handle third-party disks without complaining. Might evenC help get the OpenVMS "foot" a little farther into the door on those - sites that hate everything else about Compaq.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:53:46 GMT ( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com># Subject: Re: Handling oddball disks ' Message-ID: <G2sKDM.F24@spcuna.spc.edu>   , Glenn C. Everhart <Everhart@gce.com> writes: > SCSI_DEV_TYPES <-  > ; D > ; ID string  Dev type    Media ID Min Rev Disc Synch Phas tmo Disc& > tmo            TCQ     Mode Sense 10? > ; ---------  --------    -------- ------- ---- ----- -------- + > ---------         --------- -------------  > ;   J   Is this from a recent VMS release? On DS10's I've received integrated byM Compaq, the SCSI disks report as "COMPAQ BB00921B91" instead of RZ-something.   4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA    ------------------------------   Date: 21 Oct 2000 18:11:57 GMT/ From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net> . Subject: Re: New OpenVMS Freeware Submissions?* Message-ID: <8ssm9d$ote$2@news1.Radix.Net>  7 In comp.os.vms John E. Malmberg <wb8tyw@qsl.net> wrote: L > I would set the follow-ups to comp.os.vms, but I can not find that setting > with this newsreader.   ' with tin, I would just edit the headers    --  = Thomas E. Dickey <dickey@radix.net> <dickey@herndon4.his.com>  http://dickey.his.com  ftp://dickey.his.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 15:15:10 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMS, Message-ID: <39F1EB3D.9FB42795@videotron.ca>  & "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" wrote:N > I don't know about the "Digital-advertised heavy duty high production" Post-N > Script printers but I've found my LNC02 to better handle the PostScript I'veM > written better than any new HPs.  Perhaps, this thread has answered to this F > observed difference -- real Adobe PS interpretation -vs- emulation.   M I beleive that the "heavy duty" laser printer was either a Kodak or Xerox ( I L think Kodak ). And I agree that a printer without the real postscript engine can't be relied upon 100%.  K I have a Digital DEClaser5100 (LN09 ?) and pretty happy with its postscript  (real adobe postscript).  N I also have a little GEM on my microvaxII, the DCEprint Utility for PostscriptL to Sixel printing that I bought kast century. It converts postscript code toI sixel with proper  scaling to print on various DEC printers, including my L LA75. Great for printing labels etc. (I can continueous one-up labels always" available on the LA75 for labels).  K I know I will eventually have to migrate to ghostscript since I am not even H sure Digital remembers it ever sold that product and I doubt it has been ported to Alpha.  J This is why I feel that the VMS group should pressure Adobe into releasingI Distiller on VMS at the very least. It would make for a great utility for N on-the fly/automated PDF document production to be made instantly available onN an intra/internet. Right now, documents produced on VMS have to be exported toH a MAC or worse, a WIndows PC to run Distiller and then sent back to VMS.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 19:08:15 -0500 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>  Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMS- Message-ID: <39F22FEF.E5C84F59@earthlink.net>    JF Mezei wrote:  [snip]P > I also have a little GEM on my microvaxII, the DCEprint Utility for PostscriptN > to Sixel printing that I bought kast century. It converts postscript code toK > sixel with proper  scaling to print on various DEC printers, including my N > LA75. Great for printing labels etc. (I can continueous one-up labels always$ > available on the LA75 for labels). > M > I know I will eventually have to migrate to ghostscript since I am not even J > sure Digital remembers it ever sold that product and I doubt it has been > ported to Alpha.   Have you tried VESTing it?   L > This is why I feel that the VMS group should pressure Adobe into releasingK > Distiller on VMS at the very least. It would make for a great utility for P > on-the fly/automated PDF document production to be made instantly available onP > an intra/internet. Right now, documents produced on VMS have to be exported toJ > a MAC or worse, a WIndows PC to run Distiller and then sent back to VMS.  D Better still: how 'bout some kind of "plug-in" for a print symbiont?? (Similar to specifying a "filter" in the a UN*X printcap file.)   E ...or a Distiller API that could be hooked into a user-modified print 	 symbiont?   F There's GOTTA be a way to do this! If memory serves (and it frequentlyD doesn't), there's already freeware code for PS -> PDF conversion, is
 there not?   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 05:14:42 GMT 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)  Subject: Re: PDF under OpenVMS% Message-ID: <G2tFwL.3s@world.std.com>    In article <60333E9D00AE31E8.237882F2CA4681FE.216FA30F2142BBFB@lp.airnews.net>, Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> writes: H > As I understand it, Display Postscript on VMS has been unsupported forG > some time, but if it was already installed, it would be left in place  > during previous VMS upgrades.  > B > This changes with VMS 7.3, which will remove Display Postscript.  F Is it possible to "squirrel away" certain files and restore them after) the upgrade to retain Display Postscript?    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:34:18 GMT  From: francini@my-deja.com" Subject: Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?) Message-ID: <8stn7q$7tc$1@nnrp1.deja.com>   , Indeed--this was changed as early as 7.01. I* remember clearly that the 1090 at Brandeis3 University (where I worked before going to DEC) had * 16 VT100s connected to the console PDP-11.2 Technically unsupported, but it worked flawlessly.. (The other terminals, ugly things called "Blue3 Bombs", were all connected to the DC10 hardware TTYu mux.)   0 Whenever the 1090 crashed, the VT100s all showed. "%%DECsystem-10 not running", with mixed case.  
 John Franciniy      , In article <8sqnuk$9n6$1@nntp1.ba.best.com>,#   inwap@best.com (Joe Smith) wrote: ' > In article <r9hos8.4sg.ln@localhost>,E- > Stuart R. Fuller <stufuller@usa.net> wrote:a$ > >Joe Smith (inwap@best.com) wrote:L > >: In article <8skaph$hs3$1@bob.news.rcn.net>,  <jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote:6 > >: >In article <qh1yz2gy6x.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>,= > >: >   Eric Smith <eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com> wrote:h  > >: >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:0 > >: >>> The 1091 wouldn't even have happened ifF > >: >>> somebody sane (Alan Titcomb) hadn't funded the project.  ThatG > >: >>> was another TOPS10 project that was a midnight hack (I'm usingVD > >: >>> the word hack in the proper way...not the idiocy that seems > >: >>> to have evolved). > >: >> > > >: >>What were the technical issues to making the 1091 work? > >: >>nH > >: >>My understanding is that the 1091 hardware was basically the same > >: >>as the 2060.s > >: >D > >: >It's exactly the same.  We had a couple of stand-alone systemsD > >: >that we used for both -10 and -20 development.  All one needed$ > >: >was a pack to boot the system. > >:< > >: The 1091 was painted blue, the 2060 was painted orange.L > >: The 1091 came standard with a DIA20 interface for KA or KI I/O devices,! > >: it was optional on the 2060. O > >: The 1091 console front-end had code that said "%%DECSYSTEM-10 NOT RUNNING"- > > * > >Actually, "%%DECsystem-10 not running". >C > That's not how I remember it. J > For TOPS-10 version 7.00, when the 1091 first came out, it was all caps.< > I don't know if they got around to downcasing it for 7.04. > 	-Joeo > --: > See http://www.inwap.com/ for PDP-10 and "ReBoot" pages. >       & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.-   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:39:34 GMTD From: francini@my-deja.com" Subject: Re: Q: Why not (2^n)-bit?) Message-ID: <8stnhn$86u$1@nnrp1.deja.com>J  , Indeed--this was changed as early as 7.01. I* remember clearly that the 1090 at Brandeis3 University (where I worked before going to DEC) hadr* 16 VT100s connected to the console PDP-11.2 Technically unsupported, but it worked flawlessly.. (The other terminals, ugly things called "Blue3 Bombs", were all connected to the DC10 hardware TTY  mux.)V  0 Whenever the 1090 crashed, the VT100s all showed. "%%DECsystem-10 not running", with mixed case.  
 John Francini    francini@maosc.com Subtract an "os" for e-mail.    , In article <8sqnuk$9n6$1@nntp1.ba.best.com>,#   inwap@best.com (Joe Smith) wrote:e' > In article <r9hos8.4sg.ln@localhost>,a- > Stuart R. Fuller <stufuller@usa.net> wrote:l$ > >Joe Smith (inwap@best.com) wrote:L > >: In article <8skaph$hs3$1@bob.news.rcn.net>,  <jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote:6 > >: >In article <qh1yz2gy6x.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>,= > >: >   Eric Smith <eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com> wrote:r  > >: >>jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:0 > >: >>> The 1091 wouldn't even have happened ifF > >: >>> somebody sane (Alan Titcomb) hadn't funded the project.  ThatG > >: >>> was another TOPS10 project that was a midnight hack (I'm using,D > >: >>> the word hack in the proper way...not the idiocy that seems > >: >>> to have evolved). > >: >>l> > >: >>What were the technical issues to making the 1091 work? > >: >> H > >: >>My understanding is that the 1091 hardware was basically the same > >: >>as the 2060.s > >: >D > >: >It's exactly the same.  We had a couple of stand-alone systemsD > >: >that we used for both -10 and -20 development.  All one needed$ > >: >was a pack to boot the system. > >:< > >: The 1091 was painted blue, the 2060 was painted orange.L > >: The 1091 came standard with a DIA20 interface for KA or KI I/O devices,! > >: it was optional on the 2060.yO > >: The 1091 console front-end had code that said "%%DECSYSTEM-10 NOT RUNNING"e > >t* > >Actually, "%%DECsystem-10 not running". >  > That's not how I remember it.rJ > For TOPS-10 version 7.00, when the 1091 first came out, it was all caps.< > I don't know if they got around to downcasing it for 7.04. > 	-Joe  > --: > See http://www.inwap.com/ for PDP-10 and "ReBoot" pages. >o    & Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.2   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 21:15:19 GMTc4 From: "Peter Ljungberg" <peter.p.ljungberg@telia.se>+ Subject: Re: Stockholm Exchange OM and VMS?n3 Message-ID: <HHnI5.1771$jv2.253581@newsc.telia.net>   : I heard that it was a communication problem, not confirmed   /P.Ljf    , <richard_maher@my-deja.com> wrote in message# news:8srpqk$sef$1@nnrp1.deja.com...c > Hi,o >tF > Does anyone know why the Stockholm exchange's trading system crashed: > twice yesterday for a total of 2hours? Was VMS involved? >e > Regards Richard Maher  >f > ( > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.t   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 23:18:17 GMTh4 From: "Curtis Rempel" <vmsguy.no.spam.here@home.com>+ Subject: Re: Stockholm Exchange OM and VMS?h: Message-ID: <ZupI5.31751$76.654342@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com>   Maybe we should ask Andrew.t  ? "Peter Ljungberg" <peter.p.ljungberg@telia.se> wrote in messagee- news:HHnI5.1771$jv2.253581@newsc.telia.net...t >y >e< > I heard that it was a communication problem, not confirmed >g > /P.Ljh >o >b. > <richard_maher@my-deja.com> wrote in message% > news:8srpqk$sef$1@nnrp1.deja.com...h > > Hi,w > >tH > > Does anyone know why the Stockholm exchange's trading system crashed< > > twice yesterday for a total of 2hours? Was VMS involved? > >h > > Regards Richard Maherr > >t > > * > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.e >l >o   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:48:15 GMTe( From: Terry Kennedy <terry@gate.tmk.com>' Subject: Re: Sun "uptime" belly laughert' Message-ID: <G2sK4F.Ew1@spcuna.spc.edu>=  4 Curtis Rempel <vmsguy.no.spam.here@home.com> writes:E > As the poster of the "duff patch" article, let me add the followingi
 > postscript:M >.L > What we experienced is categorically NOT the norm with OpenVMS patch kits.M > In fact, it is the first kit I've installed over the last 15 years that has"I > behaved in this manner.  Further, we wouldn't have installed it had thetN > Compaq email alert service been functioning properly (probably running on an" > Exchange server, but I digress).  K   Furthermore, as the originator of the "bugcheck" topic, those reboots did K *not* take down the cluster, just individual nodes. Services failed over as 	 designed.s  K   I elected to cold-start my [hobbyist!] cluster rather than do rolling re-pI boots as I didn't have any production traffic to worry about at the time.d  J   I'm pretty sure there are VMS clusters out there with cluster uptimes of more than 10 years.r  4         Terry Kennedy             http://www.tmk.com5         terry@tmk.com             Jersey City, NJ USA    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Oct 2000 18:21:06 -05009 From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)s' Subject: Re: Sun "uptime" belly laugherg+ Message-ID: <FgkuYtFjWdqw@eisner.decus.org>h  $ Yes, this is absolutely outstanding.8 Anybody who has not decoded it yet should take the time.  U In article <sv39si2erh9s27@corp.supernews.com>, "Mark E. Levy" <mark@fsi.net> writes:  > Outstanding! > / > "Paul Sture" <paul@sture.ch> wrote in messagee' > news:VA.00000112.24c31313@sture.ch...'F >> In article <sv13kce892oc3c@corp.supernews.com>, Peter Weaver wrote: >> > $ input =K >> > "14E64627567702963702F6E636560216761696E6023786F67796E676028696370265D-K >> > 4350256E66797C202865672C6C6020727F6261626C69702861667560247F602465636F= >> > 6465602478=G >> > 6963702F6E6028696370286F6D6560284F62626979637470265D4350226F687E2"e >> > $ i = 0 >> > $loop: , >> > $ output[i*4,4]=%X'F$EXTRACT(i,1,input) >> > $ i = i + 1# >> > $ if i .lt. 214 then goto loop > >> > $ write sys$output "Today's secret message is: " + output >> > >> ROFLMAO!  >> ___
 >> Paul Stureo >> Switzerland >> >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:12:43 -0500 7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>a% Subject: Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS)_- Message-ID: <39F214DB.B9B1AFD5@earthlink.net>o   Kirk Acid wrote: >  > Hmm..  thats the prob.: > How do i find out which version of vms i have installed   
 $ SHOW SYSTEMd  E The first line of the display shows the version. Newer versions (V6.x  and later) allow:u   $ SHOW SYSTEM/NOPROCESSe  @ ...which displays only the header line (equiv. to UN*X "uptime")   > and which ip-stack,w  . See which of these commands succeeds (if any):  2 $ UCX SHOW VERSION	! "Ultrix Connection" (Digital)C $ TCPIP SHOW VERSION	! TCP/IP Services (fka "UCX") (Digital/Compaq)o5 $ MULTINET SHOW/VERSION	! Process Software - Multinet 0 $ RUN TCPWARE:NETCU	! Process Software - TCPware; $ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:IPCP	! CMU/IP (Carnegie-Mellon University)d (don't know about Wollongong)   5 > and if i know that how can i change the ip-addr. ??l  + Depends which IP stack, if any, is present.R  d" > is there a ftp-program in vms ??  + Depends which IP stack, if any, is present.   S >    can i install netscape ??  F If you have DECwindows or X11 and an IP stack installed/running, sure!   -- t David J. Dachterat dba DJE Systemst http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/"  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:13:57 -0500 ) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net> % Subject: Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS)o. Message-ID: <sv454n9d29622@corp.supernews.com>  7 "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wrote-2 in message news:39F214DB.B9B1AFD5@earthlink.net...= > $ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:IPCP ! CMU/IP (Carnegie-Mellon University)c  @ For CMU/IP use RUN CMUIP_ROOT:[SYSTEM]IPCP or something similar.  J CMU/IP does not install anything in the SYS$SYSROOT directory tree, unless" you override the default location.   -Johne wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 18:34:24 -0400-- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>-% Subject: Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS) , Message-ID: <39F219ED.1D16DEE1@videotron.ca>   "John E. Malmberg" wrote: B > For CMU/IP use RUN CMUIP_ROOT:[SYSTEM]IPCP or something similar.   $IPNCP does the trick for CMUe  
 (or MC IPNCP)   L > CMU/IP does not install anything in the SYS$SYSROOT directory tree, unless$ > you override the default location.  : But it does install in SYS$SYSTEM:   (SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE])  = CMU comes with many of the basic utilities (TELNET, FTP etc).s  E TCPIP services (V5.x) comes with a much more complete TCPIP stack and J utilities (SMTP, POP etc), but lacks DHCP *client* (it has a DHCP server).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:47:09 -0500u) From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net>k% Subject: Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS)h/ Message-ID: <sv4731qnn0qncb@corp.supernews.com>s  : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message& news:39F219ED.1D16DEE1@videotron.ca... > "John E. Malmberg" wrote:uD > > For CMU/IP use RUN CMUIP_ROOT:[SYSTEM]IPCP or something similar. >> > $IPNCP does the trick for CMU- >r > (or MC IPNCP)n >aG > > CMU/IP does not install anything in the SYS$SYSROOT directory tree,p unless& > > you override the default location. >e< > But it does install in SYS$SYSTEM:   (SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE])  F If you have it installed there on your system, you either overroad theL default installation, or started out with an older version before the CMU/IP files were isolated.    For new installations of CMU/IP:  J The default is to create a CMUIP_ROOT: as SYS$SYSDEVICE:[CMUIP_ROOT.]  And1 put it's executable files in CMUIP_ROOT:[SYSEXE].d  F Yes, you can overlay the CMUIP_ROOT over SYS$COMMON: but it is not the default.  At least not now.I   -JohnE wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 22:29:06 -0500i7 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net>s% Subject: Re: User Guide for Vax (VMS)a- Message-ID: <39F25F02.F06B044C@earthlink.net>n   "John E. Malmberg" wrote:  > 9 > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@earthlink.net> wroteg4 > in message news:39F214DB.B9B1AFD5@earthlink.net...? > > $ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:IPCP ! CMU/IP (Carnegie-Mellon University)t > B > For CMU/IP use RUN CMUIP_ROOT:[SYSTEM]IPCP or something similar. > L > CMU/IP does not install anything in the SYS$SYSROOT directory tree, unless$ > you override the default location.   Good point, John! I forgot...n   --   David J. Dachterat dba DJE Systemst http://www.djesys.com/  : Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page and Message Board: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/k  F This *IS* an OpenVMS-related newsgroup. So, a certain bias in postings is to be expected.  @ Feel free to exercise your rights of free speech and expression.  F However, attacks against individual posters, or groups of posters, are strongly discouraged.o   ------------------------------   Date: 21 Oct 2000 16:58:54 PDTT From: Fairfield@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Ken Fairfield; SLAC: 650-926-2924; FAX: 926-3515) Subject: Re: video card info atr3 Message-ID: <OYT6Mgqx09y3@mccdev.slac.stanford.edu>r  6 In article <zo8I5.139$Qz2.37782@typhoon.aracnet.com>, 9     	"Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> writes:n. > Island Computers <sales@islandco.com> wrote: >> www.islandco.com/video.htme [...]lK > Now the questions.  Are you sure the 4D40 is VMS compatible?  I'd thoughth > that it wasn't.  ...  H         In fact, I'm think David  missed  with  the 4D40.  Looking at anH     older  SOC  for the DPW series (V3.0 dated 2 March 1998),  one  seesH     that _only_ the following are supported in the DPW au-Series by VMS:  ,     	SN-PBXGB-AA	PowerStorm 3D30 ( 2MB VRAM),     	SN-PBXGB-CA	PowerStorm 4D20 (16MB VRAM)  H     Of course, the older  S3Trio64,  probably  the  ATI  MACH64, and theH     newer  Elsa  Gloria are also supported by VMS, but don't  happen  toH     appear in this SOC.  The following of that  generation  of  graphics8     adapters are listed as _not_ being supported by VMS:  2         SN-PB2GA-KB	Matrox Millenium II (4MB WRAM)3         SN-PBXGK-AA	PowerStorm 4D10     (4MB SGRAM) 3         SN-PBXGK-AB	PowerStorm 4D10T    (8MB SGRAM) 4         SN-PBXGD-AA	PowerStorm 4D30T 3D (4MB + 16MB)5         SN-PBXGD-AB	PowerStorm 4D30T 3D (16MB + 32MB)lG         SN-PBXGI-AA	PowerStorm 4D40T 3D (16MB VRAM + 32MB)  2 PCI slotsmK         SN-PBXGI-AB     PowerStorm 4D50T 3D (16MB VRAM + 32MB   2 PCI slotstK         SN-PBXGI-AC     PowerStorm 4D60T 3D (32MB VRAM + 16MB)  2 PCI slotsa4         SN-PBXGI-AD	PowerStorm 4D51T 3D (4MB + 16MB)  H     However, David's  part  number  for  the  4D40  is  SN-PBXGD-AD, notH     SN-PBXGI-AD  as  in  the  SOC.   DBL  lists  the  SN-PBXGD-AD  as  aH     PowerStorm 300, which _is_ supported by VMS (at  least  with  recentH     enough versions of VMS and GRAPHICS ECOs applied).  So it looks like5     David needs to simply re-label the 4D40 as a 300.c    H         I'm also not sure what  "Y+"  for  the Matrox Millenium means inH     David's  table.   According to the SOC, it wasn't supported by  VMS,:     but perhaps he's done some magic to make it work.  :-)  	     	-Ken  --  M  Kenneth H. Fairfield            |  Internet: Fairfield@SLC.Slac.Stanford.Edub:  SLAC, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, MS 46  |  Voice:    650-926-2924:  Menlo Park, CA  94025           |  FAX:      650-926-3515N  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------B  These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2000.590 ************************e 1090 at Brandeis3 University (where I worked before going to DEC) had * 16 VT100s connected to the console PDP-11.2 Technically unsupported, but it worked flawlessly.. (The other terminals, ugly things called "Blue3 Bombs"