1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 06 May 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 249       Contents: Re: Anyone here from Dublin ?  Re: Anyone here from Dublin ?  Re: Anyone here from Dublin ? ! Automating a "lights out" cottage  Re: Backup procedure... ( Re: Case sensitive passwords in 7.2-6 C1. Re: Changes in dismount sys service in VMS 7.3. Re: Changes in dismount sys service in VMS 7.3' Re: creating licenses for my own demos? / Re: DCL coding (was: Re: DCL routine required.) / Re: DCL coding (was: Re: DCL routine required.)  Re: DCL routine required. = DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? A Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? $ Re: DECserver / Modem Hangup Problem$ Re: DECserver / Modem Hangup Problem3 Re: Gartner: HP is #1 vendor of servers for Q1 2003 9 Re: HELP: SCA Traffic - Transmit Sequence Packet Timeouts < Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd< Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd< Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd< Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd= Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd! = Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd! = Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd! = Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd! $ Re: How to run VMS on PC Please helpG Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBMmonopoly 8 Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!) Re: license generation question revisited ) Re: license generation question revisited ) Re: license generation question revisited  Make Device Online from Offline  Re: Migrate email to VMS server : Re: Netscape 3.03 performance tip - set disk cache to zero& Re: Not entirely OT: RSHELL to Solaris Re: OpenVMS Now on the HP ITRC* Re: Oracle Rdb Release 7.1.1 Now Available. Re: SDA's PTHREAD command - Where's the docs??' Re: Second SCSI adapter fro PSW/AU - UK ' Re: Second SCSI adapter fro PSW/AU - UK & smtp.config bad-clients relay blocking* Re: smtp.config bad-clients relay blocking= Spontaneous rebooting after 7.3-1 upgrade and how to track it A Re: Spontaneous rebooting after 7.3-1 upgrade and how to track it , Weird shutdown and Reboot on OpenVMS 6.2 ???0 Re: Weird shutdown and Reboot on OpenVMS 6.2 ???0 Re: Weird shutdown and Reboot on OpenVMS 6.2 ??? Re: X25 Gateway 5 Re: [OpenVMS Alpha] How to get image version in DCL ? 5 [Q] On-disk BACKUP save set block size = 33040 bytes?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:46:20 -0700% From: "Scott Stark" <starkh@saic.com> & Subject: Re: Anyone here from Dublin ?' Message-ID: <3eb66b31$1@cpns1.saic.com>   @ "Russell Wallace" <wallacethinmintr@eircom.net> wrote in message* news:3eb2d600.601491941@news.eircom.net... > G > I'd recommend not visiting Ireland this year for any reason. SARS has G > started here, and current official policy is to do nothing to stop it  > spreading. > G > In the longer term, I think it's a reasonably nice place to live. Not C > much sunshine, but by the same token relatively few bugs. Cost of H > accomodation is high: how tolerant are you of lack of privacy? Jobs inF > the computer industry are hard to find, due to a glut of people fromG > when the field was in exponential growth mode, but postgraduate study G > positions may be available - try contacting some of the universities.  >  > --   > "Sore wa himitsu desu."  > To reply by email, remove  > the small snack from address. # > http://www.esatclear.ie/~rwallace   K I find it hard to believe that the current official policy is to do nothing A to stop it from spreading.  That's not responsible. Isolation and 2 Observation seem to be a current course of action.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:37:53 +0200+ From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> & Subject: Re: Anyone here from Dublin ?5 Message-ID: <b96ljn$g6vrk$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>   7 "Bill Gunshannon" <bill@cs.uofs.edu> schreef in bericht / news:b95ku8$fnv0k$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de... 7 > In article <b91n8a$epd5i$1@id-143435.news.dfncis.de>, / > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> writes:  > > , > > <brandon@dalsemi.com> schreef in bericht/ > > news:03050308583156@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com...  > >> > > the beer is all right.  > >> >B > >> > Alright? ALRIGHT?  Don't let anyone hear you say that, else5 > >> > that's you excluded.  Don't you like Guinness?  > >>G > >> Have not been following this thread - by accident I opened and saw  "beer".  > >>2 > >> Did someone say BEER???  My favorite subject! > >>J > >> I enjoy Guinness and Boddingtons.  I have been to Germany and enjoyed the 	 > > beer! L > >> American beer - I like - however there was something about German beer. > >>! > >> Not to change the subject...  > >>5 > > While we're at it, did you ever try belgian beer?  > >  > G > I used to go on field exercises with a Belgian Signal Unit back in my I > Army days and we drank Belgian Beer (Stella Artois, I think) with meals H > in the mess.  I thought it was quite good.  (They once came very closeD > to canceling an exercise because they ran out of beer.  Talk aboutG > having your priorites right!!)  My daughter has a taste for something G > called Frambozen, but I would guess the flavoring overpowers the beer F > to the point that most beer drinkers probably don't even consider it+ > beer at that point.  I know I don't!  :-)  > I Frambozen is very sweet indeed, there is a cherry based variety that is a K lot better (krieken). Did you ever had the chance to try a trappisten beer, H made by monks? Like Westmalle or Orval? A little strong (9 % by vol) but< very good indeed. Come to think of it, I'm off line  now :-)   ------------------------------   Date: 6 May 2003 01:56:38 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)& Subject: Re: Anyone here from Dublin ?5 Message-ID: <b974om$fp85h$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>   5 In article <b96ljn$g6vrk$1@id-143435.news.dfncis.de>, . 	"Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> writes: > 9 > "Bill Gunshannon" <bill@cs.uofs.edu> schreef in bericht 1 > news:b95ku8$fnv0k$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de...  >>H >> I used to go on field exercises with a Belgian Signal Unit back in myJ >> Army days and we drank Belgian Beer (Stella Artois, I think) with mealsI >> in the mess.  I thought it was quite good.  (They once came very close E >> to canceling an exercise because they ran out of beer.  Talk about H >> having your priorites right!!)  My daughter has a taste for somethingH >> called Frambozen, but I would guess the flavoring overpowers the beerG >> to the point that most beer drinkers probably don't even consider it , >> beer at that point.  I know I don't!  :-) >>K > Frambozen is very sweet indeed, there is a cherry based variety that is a M > lot better (krieken). Did you ever had the chance to try a trappisten beer,  > made by monks?     Heard of it, but never had any.   + >                 Like Westmalle or Orval?     Don't know those.   L >                                           A little strong (9 % by vol) but> > very good indeed. Come to think of it, I'm off line  now :-) >   D One thing I especially miss about my time in europe was all the goodD beer.  No matter what they say, american beer doesn't and will never measure up.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:10:17 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>* Subject: Automating a "lights out" cottage' Message-ID: <3EB71969.5D6D5D@istop.com>   L OK, this has been brewing in my head for some time, and this or next year, IK may have some opportunity. At the family cottage we are considering getting T foundations done on the old part which would eventually allow its use during winter.  H The past winter has been particularly brutal, with many of the permanentI residents of the areas having burst pipes, frozen sceptic tanks. The past J weekend, about a month late, we turned the water back on only to find thatJ some pipes in the unfinished cellar were still frozen (portion are next to impossible to drain).    So, here is the dream :   M Some computer in the finished basement has various thermocouples at strategic M points along the pipe between the pump and the lake. Electric heating element J all along the underground pipe to the lake. And temperature sensors in theN cottage. Computer has a modem that dials (or is dialed into) to provide statusL of the cottage, and also allows one to remotely turn up the temperature up aM few hours prior to us going there during winter, otherwise, the cottage would K be in lights out mode with just enough to keep pipes from freezing. Talking + about about 8 months "light-out" operation.   N So the computer would essentially act as a 7/24 monitor all year long and takeb whatever action is needed to keep house in good shape while allowing remote monitoring/management.  N And while we are at it, have some small digital camera which would allow us toL remotely see what is going on at the cottage during winter. (ok, not needed, but would be way cool !)  H While in the past, this would have seemed to be science fiction, this is2 becoming more and more an interesting possibility.  K Now, obviously, this wouldn't be implemented all at once, but the one thing K that would have to be done is embed thermocouples +  heater and wiring into H the pipe between cottage and lake while we have a backhoe on site to digM foundations. (pipes should be at least 1 metre below ground to escape most of  the frost).   M But this has gotten me to think about what sort of computer could be used and ' what sort of interfaces should it have.   N USB ? Serial ? (are there ethernet data collection, as well as ethernet driven relays etc ?  L If going for serial ports, would that essentially limit it to some 8086 withK enough serial cards/ports ? Right ? (and old vax is out of question because D renewing hobbyist licences is not something to be done for a house).  J While it would be cool to use VMS for this, it would cost way too much forJ real licenses (rewning hobbyist each year is out of question, the computerN should be installed as an appliance). So it woudl seem that Linux would be the answer. Comments on that ?  F Any comments on the type of interfaces between sensors, relays and the
 computer ?  I Since many here are involved in process control, I figured this newsgroup 6 could provide some insight on such a (dream) project ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:24:59 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>  Subject: Re: Backup procedure...) Message-ID: <3EB6AC7A.885F9917@istop.com>    Albrecht Schlosser wrote:  > $ set output_rate=0:0:10 > G > before the backup command to update the logfile in 10 Sec. intervals. J > Then you can use a DECUS utility called TAIL with it's monitor option to. > see the output continuously on your terminal  
 or simply:  , TYPE/CONTINUOUS/INTERVAL=10  the_logfile.LOG   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 12:20:41 -0700 , From: JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow)1 Subject: Re: Case sensitive passwords in 7.2-6 C1 = Message-ID: <4b6ec350.0305051120.283218b9@posting.google.com>   v koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote in message news:<TAbLiLOEW3be@eisner.encompasserve.org>...[ > In article <b8ub5h$9ov$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) writes:  >>  C >> Unfortunately it is usually written into organisation's security 
 policies that @ >> passwords will contain mixed case letters (and usually also a
 numeric orD >> special character). This makes it very difficult for VMS since it
 is the oddA >> one out and this lack is easily exploited by those who wish to 
 portray it as ? >> being a "security failing" of VMS. Perception is everything.  > J >    They also like to require special characters (nonalphanumeric), whichF >    can lead to the perception of a weakness for VMS since it doesn't >    allow many. > A >    I'm not into the mixed case feature, but I would like to use 5 >    anything in the DEC multinational character set.     F I used to use Digital's <Compose Character> key for part of my OpenVMSB password in the 1980s ... until some Windows keyboard came around.C Early VT emulators did not have a Digital keyboard mini-window that > would let me press the <Compose Character> key. I abandoned myE "secure" password when I could not log onto OpenVMS from a 25 MHz IBM   PC in the Accounting Department.8 I used to "enjoy" the S+0 (zero) composed character "".   Jim Strehlow, Data911  OpenVMS Systems Manager  Alameda, CA, USA   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:44:28 GMT # From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> 7 Subject: Re: Changes in dismount sys service in VMS 7.3 7 Message-ID: <M2Ata.319$aK.9676@twister.tampabay.rr.com>   * "none" <none@townisp.com> wrote in messageH news:vbamoj8v20qt8c@corp.supernews.com...> I would suggest using Veritas" Netbackup versus MTI TapecControl. > . > It would save you a great deal of headaches. > D > I have tried using TapeControl and have had nothing but headaches. > 7 > Attempts to reach the Sales department go unanswered.  >   L Remind me never to take your advice!  We have been using the MTI product forI years and this is really the only problem we have had.  Their support has I been awesome (from what our system managers tell me).  After Stingray and K StorageWare, I may never buy any more of their storage products, but I have C been very happy with their Tape library and RLM software for years.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:41:51 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 7 Subject: Re: Changes in dismount sys service in VMS 7.3 ' Message-ID: <3EB704CF.5374FC3F@fsi.net>    "John N." wrote: > , > "none" <none@townisp.com> wrote in messageJ > news:vbamoj8v20qt8c@corp.supernews.com...> I would suggest using Veritas$ > Netbackup versus MTI TapecControl. > > 0 > > It would save you a great deal of headaches. > > F > > I have tried using TapeControl and have had nothing but headaches. > > 9 > > Attempts to reach the Sales department go unanswered.  > >  > N > Remind me never to take your advice!  We have been using the MTI product forK > years and this is really the only problem we have had.  Their support has K > been awesome (from what our system managers tell me).  After Stingray and M > StorageWare, I may never buy any more of their storage products, but I have E > been very happy with their Tape library and RLM software for years.   H Seconded, whole-heartedly - but with a :-) because there are some quirksD to watch out for. Nothing fatal, but I still find myself wishing for6 more functionality in SLS like I had with TapeControl.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 05:33:16 GMT 4 From: "Mark Buda" <buda@tabasco.zko.dec.no.spam.com>0 Subject: Re: creating licenses for my own demos?0 Message-ID: <wOHta.301$JZ7.109@news.cpqcorp.net>  . "Beyonder" <beyonder@vrx.net> wrote in message2 news:5ot3bvcs5drpipbsuvhipu5c1ne2rtbn5e@4ax.com...  B Once you join the DSPP program, you can contact them and ask aboutG getting a PAKGEN PAK.  You will need to register your producer text, so A that no one else can use your producer to use your products in an  illicit manner.   H I do not know if the non-company registrant is allowed to get PAKGEN PAK8 usage or not, but will ask the DSPP office and find out.  G The below text is from a pre-HP document, but gives you an idea of what  is involved...   and a little more...  # -----------------------------------     F DSPP program. If you meet a partner, please ask them to contact the hp% developer & solution partner program.  800 249 3294 www.hp.com/dspp      Introduction  E PAKGEN produces LMF PAKs for software.  Digital Equipment Corporation G developed LMF licensing technology for its OpenVMS operating system and G layered products in the late 1980s.  Later, LMF was extended to Digital E UNIX (now Tru64 UNIX).  A central tenet of LMF is the security of the D generator, PAKGEN.  PAKGEN was offered as a product, but Digital wasE restrictive and not many companies purchased the software.  Some ISVs C asked for it, but it never was the mainstream.  Still, it's used to E license the OpenVMS operating system and planned to be in the Itanium H port of OpenVMS.  For this reason, I proposed to offer PAKGEN to ISVs as a service of the CSA program. " Responsible Organizations & People    D Members of Compaq's CSA program may request PAKGEN.  They make theirH request by logging into the Members Only website and filling out a form,H "Request for Technical Support" by following the links, "Request PortingF or Technical Support" for AlphaServer systems, "Development or PortingB Question."  In their request, the partner should put PAKGEN in theF Subject field and the requested TOKEN string in the textbox area "YourF request or concern."  CSA TechSupport will open a case for the requestG and forward it to the License Key manager.  The manager issues a PAKGEN H key with the requested TOKEN string, and emails the key file to the ISV. Scope   C Worldwide.  CSA members must use the Members Only website to make a H request and to download documentation.  The PAKGEN key file will be sent to them by email.  Cost   There is no cost to the member.  Prerequisite Software   H Support for PAKGEN is integrated into OpenVMS Version 7.2 and later.  No, additional product installation is required. Support   E PAKGEN software is not warranted.  CSA TechSupport will provide "best B effort" support for ISVs that requested and received a PAKGEN key.D Backup support will come from OpenVMS engineering for questions thatB cannot be answered or for bugs that are entered in the PTR system.
 Documentation   < General LMF documentation is provided in the OpenVMS product documentation. http://www.openvms.compaq.com/) OpenVMS License Management Utility Manual  Order Number: AA--PVXUF--TK   G An API for software programs that use LMF is documented in "DEC VMS/LMF E System Services Reference Manual", available as a PDF file on the CSA  Members Only website.   E PAKGEN user documentation is provided on the CSA Members Only website * for members to download and is here below: Generating License PAKs   B The License Management Facility (LMF) is an OpenVMS component thatF provides system managers and product developers with a means to manageH and track software PAKs that have been issued to customers. Users of LMFE use the LMF Product Authorization Keys (PAKs) and the LMF database to F register and manage license PAKs.  Product developers use LMF to checkH for valid product licenses.  Product developers and product vendors must use LMF to generate new keys.   F Each PAK includes a variety of fields that supply specific informationF about a product.  The most relevant fields for generating and trackingD license keys are the product name, product issuer, product producer,A product authorization, and product token. The product name is the H designation for the particular product; that is, the specific product orF product group that is authorized by the key.  The producer is the nameH of the organization that produced or created the product.  Together, theG producer and the product name uniquely identify a product license.  The C issuer identifies the organization that generated the license; this = organization may or may not be the same as the producer.  The G authorization field is an arbitrary alphanumeric string that the issuer C can use as a key serial number or a customer-order tracking number.   G The product token is an alphanumeric string.  It cannot be more than 31 E characters.  Don't associate the string with a specific product name. E The convention has historically been to refer to your Company name so H that the licenses are "identifiable" in an audit situation.  Please note that you cannot change it.  F Each product producer can have multiple product issuers; however, each@ issuer is individually authorized to generate license keys for aA particular producer.  The ability to generate keys is specific to G individual producer/issuer pairs; the producer/issuer pair can generate E keys for only that pair. An issuer who needs to generate licenses for F multiple producers requires individual and separate authorizations for each producer.  G The run-time product license check is based on the product name and the F product producer.  The ability to generate product licenses is enabledF by a license key -- the product authorization key generation key.  TheF key generator key name is PAKGEN, and the producer and issuer are both: DEC.  The PAKGEN key uses the product token to declare theE producer/issuer pair that is authorized by the particular PAKGEN key.   F Each PAKGEN PAK authorizes a code for a particular producer/issue pairF and for no others.  Although multiple PAKGEN PAKs can be registered inG parallel in the LMF database, a maximum of one PAKGEN PAK can be loaded  and active at a time.   G Support for PAKGEN is integrated into OpenVMS (VAX & Alpha) Version 7.2 ; and later.  No additional product installation is required.   C The following sections describe how to use PAKGEN. The descriptions E assume basic familiarity with PAKS and with the DCL commands commonly  used with LMF.# Step 1: Register the PAKGEN License   C The first step involved in the use of PAKGEN is registration of the @ PAKGEN key.  To enable the PAKGEN key, use either the VMSLICENSEE procedure or the DCL commands LICENSE REGISTER and LICENSE LOAD.  You F must fill in each field of the PAKGEN license exactly as listed on the product license document.   H The following example shows how to register and load the PAKGEN license:   $ LICENSE CREATE -- /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldb    $ LICENSE REGISTER PAKGEN - / /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldb - 
 /ISSUER=DEC -  /PRODUCER=DEC - % /AUTHORIZATION=authorization-string -  /UNITS=license-units - /RELEASE=release-date  - /ACTIVITY=activity-code - " /TOKEN=producer-name~issuer-name - /CHECKSUM=checksum $ LICENSE LOAD PAKGEN - - /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldb     E If licenses for multiple producer/issuer pairs are required, you must G first register the individual PAKGEN keys and then unload and load keys & for the specific producer/issuer pair.  D The following example shows how to display a currently loaded PAKGEN license:   $ SHOW LICENSE PAKGEN/FULL   Active licenses on node XDELTA:    PAKGEN         Producer: DEC          Units: 100         Version: 0.0!         Release Date: 21-JAN-2000           Termination Date: (none)         Availability: 100          Activity: 0          VAX_ALPHA          Product Token: FOO~BAR  C Only the PAKGEN key that is issued by Compaq is honored for license F generation.  The only producer string that is valid for PAKGEN is DEC.$ Step 2: Generate the Product License  E To generate a license PAK, you must first use the DCL command PRODUCT E REGISTER with the /GENERATE qualifier. Then, to generate the PAK, you F must input specific product information by using the REGISTER/GENERATE# command with additional qualifiers.   F It is strongly suggested that you register PAKGEN paks into a separateB database than the OpenVMS standard one.  This keeps the system LMFE database separate and untouched by anyone registering PAKGEN paks and @ creating PAK's. Use the /DATABASE=device:[directory]database.ldb qualifier to accomplish this.   F Once the particular license is registered in the LMF database, you useE the PRODUCT ISSUE command to produce the completed license key in the  desired format.   B The /GENERATE qualifier is valid only when the producer and issuerF specified on the license PAK match a valid, loaded PAKGEN key.  If youG need to issue licenses for another producer/issuer pair, you must first E unload the PAKGEN license and then reload the license associated with  that producer/issuer pair.  E The following example shows how to generate a license and to create a 8 DCL procedure that contains the newly generated license:  * $ LICENSE REGISTER/GENERATE product-name -/ /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldb -  /PRODUCER=producer - /ISSUER=issuer -% /AUTHORIZATION=authorization-string - 
 /UNITS=0 -% /TERMINATION_DATE=termination-date  -  /ACTIVITY=activity-code -  /TOKEN=product-token-code ( $ LICENSE ISSUE/PROCEDURE product-name -/ /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldb - ' /OUTPUT=SYS$SCRATCH:PAK_PROCEDURE.COM - # /AUTHORIZATION=authorization-string     A The following example shows the contents of the PAK_PROCEDURE.COM 4 procedure that was created by the preceding command:  - $! Software Product Authorization Key Replica  $! Issued by BUDA  $! Issued on  7-JAN-2002 06:49% $!----------------------------------- ! $ LICENSE REGISTER product-name -  /PRODUCER=producer - /ISSUER=issuer -% /AUTHORIZATION=authorization-string - 
 /UNITS=0 -% /TERMINATION_DATE=termination-date  -  /ACTIVITY=activity-code -  /TOKEN=product-token - /CHECKSUM=2-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx & Using the Product Authorization String  ? You can use the product authorization string to track licenses, G customers, the person or system that generated the license, as a serial E number, and so on.  You should use a string format that allows all of E this information to be parsed easily; in particular, you should use a H format that permits you to identify the format used as changes are made.  B For example, you can include an application-specific authorization? format identifier, a customer code, a unique serial number, and @ information about when and where this particular license key was
 generated:   1-CUSTCODE-1234-2000021-SITE  B If the authorization format needs to be changed or enhanced in theE future, you can alter the value that you stored in the first field to B identify the particular format.  For example, in the authorizationF string of the preceding example, you could change the leading 1 to a 24 when the format of the authorization string changes.& Securing the Product Authorization Key  H Be careful to avoid both the release of the PAKGEN authorization key andF unintentional access to the OpenVMS system enabled for key generation.H Failure to maintain the security of the PAKGEN key or failure to controlB access to the generator can result in the creation of unauthorized
 license keys.   D In particular, do not register the PAKGEN key in an untrusted systemE environment; register and load the PAKGEN key only during use, and do " not release the PAKGEN key itself.   End of PAKGEN documentation  Frequently Asked Questions  4 Q: Where are the system services for LMF documented?: A:  Contact DSPP for the LMF System Service documentation.   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 14:53:26 -0700 . From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)8 Subject: Re: DCL coding (was: Re: DCL routine required.)= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0305051353.31759f91@posting.google.com>   g Bart Zorn <B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl> wrote in message news:<3eb3b969$0$49098$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>...  > brandon@dalsemi.com wrote: [...] K > Sometimes you see DCL code which creates an other DCL command file. When  N > a single quote is needed in the resulting file, the following is being used: > , > $ WRITE OUTFILE "$ A = ''''B''''_WHATEVER"    E Why would anyone write the above command? The first three apostrophes ; will simply disappear. Then you get 'B. Then the next three D apostrophes disappear. Then you get the last apostrophe. What is the! point of the apostrophe triplets?      K > I believe that code like this makes life difficult for anyone who has to  J > maintain such code, including the original author. The line should read: > & > $ WRITE OUTFILE "$ A = 'B'_WHATEVER"    ) Since it gives identical output, I agree.    >  >  > Bart Zorn      Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:03:54 -0500  From: brandon@dalsemi.com 8 Subject: Re: DCL coding (was: Re: DCL routine required.)1 Message-ID: <03050517035404@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>    > brandon@dalsemi.com wrote: [...] K > Sometimes you see DCL code which creates an other DCL command file. When  N > a single quote is needed in the resulting file, the following is being used: > , > $ WRITE OUTFILE "$ A = ''''B''''_WHATEVER"  $ Disclaimer and retraction, please!!!  N John Brandon did not express the above code... gasp argh - could not would not/ (OK, gun to the head and stone drunk, maybe...)        John Brandon VMS Systems Administrator  Dallas Semiconductor john.brandon@dalsemi.com 972.371.4172 wk  972.371.4003 fx    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:44:28 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> " Subject: Re: DCL routine required.' Message-ID: <3EB7056C.74C70667@fsi.net>    Jeff Cameron wrote:  > N > On 5/4/03 2:39 PM, in article 3EB588AA.C3814A82@fsi.net, "David J. Dachtera"  > <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote: >  > > Johno wrote: > >> > >> Hi J > >> Any suggestions how I can program into my command procedure a routineK > >> that tests for the first working day of the month (I.E: Mon, Tue, Wed, K > >> Thu, Fri only). The routine would still have to work if the first fell K > >> on a Saturday or Sunday with the first working day therefore being the " > >> second or third of the month. > > K > > Holiday issues aside, I should think that anything you can do to detect G > > the first Monday where the day-of-month number is less than 8 would  > > suffice. > > : > > $ IF (F$CVTIME( ,, "WEEKDAY" ) .EQS. "Monday") .AND. -( > > (F$CVTIME( ,, "DAY" ) .LT. 8) THEN - > > $ DO_YOUR_STUFF  > H > Take May 1, 2003. It is a Thursday, being the first working day of theE > month. The above DCL picks the first working Monday in a month. Two  > different things.   * Quite right - sorry. I misread his intent.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 11:30:47 -0700 , From: JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow)F Subject: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?= Message-ID: <4b6ec350.0305051030.33c82e31@posting.google.com>   F We have configured many independent remote sites under DECnet Phase IV over the past dozen years.= We have not yet needed DEC/Compaq/HP's help with any problems + regarding DECnet Phase IV over those years.   1 We do not have any DECnet dependent applications. F We usually configure a client's OpenVMS AlphaServer using DECnet Phase8 IV to network copy files from development to production.  C One of our clients who is in production on a remote DECnet Phase IV > system sent us a new AlphaServer that has DECnet Phase V on it (preinstalled.)   2 The client has "no special need to be on Phase V".  : Should we go through the pain to migrate to DECnet Phase V or install DECnet Phase IV? $ We prefer to stay on DECnet Phase IV8 unless forum members say we should not be using Phase IV2 and there are real advantages to be using Phase V.  5 What version of DECnet are other forum members using?    If we must migrate, D  - what .DAT files do we need to copy from their production Phase IV	 computer? E  - what do I need to do in order to connect their Phase V computer to  our     Phase IV computer?    Thank you for your input.    Jim Strehlow, Data911  OpenVMS Systems Manager  Alameda, CA, USA   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:20:16 -0500 & From: Jenny Butler <jbutler@utmem.edu>J Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?3 Message-ID: <009201c3133b$5c3c4dc0$1806c084@JennyB>k    Jim,uC      Years ago, we had to migrate our VMS cluster to DECnet Phase VoC  simply because we needed the WAN driver.  At the time that Phase VSE  was the default, Digital didn't include the WAN driver in that newer:J  version of Phase IV.  We had a number of smaller systems and workstationsD  that were still on Phase IV.  We had to accomodate Phase IV-Phase VD  routing so they would play nicely together.  We chose to purchase aG  WANRouter 90 to handle this.  I think there was a configuration optionnI  in Phase V that did not require a separate router doing this, but at theaD  time it was recommended to me that having a Phase IV-Phase V router  was a better solution.eG      Long story short, if you can ONLY have Phase V in your network, its wouldCK  depend on what the VMS/DECnet engineers say about the life of the Phase IVmG  kit.  If you aren't changing all systems, and don't hear anything thati>  suggests Phase IV won't be around long enough - DON'T CHANGE!G      The learning curve is a little steep, but once you get used to the  Phase VgL  NCL, it's not too bad.  However, if you don't need to do it, it's not worth
  the trip.A >                                         Good luck, Jenny Butler  > ----- Original Message -----0 > From: "Jim Strehlow" <JimStrehlow@data911.com> > To: <Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com>v$ > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:30 PMH > Subject: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary? >  >lJ > > We have configured many independent remote sites under DECnet Phase IV > > over the past dozen years.A > > We have not yet needed DEC/Compaq/HP's help with any problemse/ > > regarding DECnet Phase IV over those years.B > >o5 > > We do not have any DECnet dependent applications.sJ > > We usually configure a client's OpenVMS AlphaServer using DECnet Phase< > > IV to network copy files from development to production. > >qG > > One of our clients who is in production on a remote DECnet Phase IVsB > > system sent us a new AlphaServer that has DECnet Phase V on it > > (preinstalled.)V > >r6 > > The client has "no special need to be on Phase V". > >e> > > Should we go through the pain to migrate to DECnet Phase V > > or install DECnet Phase IV?e( > > We prefer to stay on DECnet Phase IV< > > unless forum members say we should not be using Phase IV6 > > and there are real advantages to be using Phase V. > > 9 > > What version of DECnet are other forum members using?a > >c > > If we must migrate,nH > >  - what .DAT files do we need to copy from their production Phase IV
 > > computer? I > >  - what do I need to do in order to connect their Phase V computer tor > > ourn > >    Phase IV computer?? > >e > > Thank you for your input.O > >S > > Jim Strehlow, Data911  > > OpenVMS Systems Managert > > Alameda, CA, USA > >Q >n   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 15:12:49 -0400-$ From: anonymous <anonymous@null.dev>J Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?( Message-ID: <3EB6B7AD.1B030F00@null.dev>   Jim Strehlow wrote: < > Should we go through the pain to migrate to DECnet Phase V > or install DECnet Phase IV?a  M Stay with the real decnet. Remove the 5 and put the 4 on. It takes less disk,IK less computer resources, and is much easier to manage, especially sicne youi' already have skills to manage decnet 4.   ? Going to 5 takes a dedicated learning effort because all of itseK management/config is different. If you must, then you must. But if you haveu# the option to stay at 4, stay at 4.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:38:02 GMT 4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)J Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?/ Message-ID: <u4zta.773345$S_4.796651@rwcrnsc53>   l In article <4b6ec350.0305051030.33c82e31@posting.google.com>, JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow) writes: <snip>D >One of our clients who is in production on a remote DECnet Phase IV? >system sent us a new AlphaServer that has DECnet Phase V on itp >(preinstalled.) >r3 >The client has "no special need to be on Phase V".c >e; >Should we go through the pain to migrate to DECnet Phase Ve >or install DECnet Phase IV?% >We prefer to stay on DECnet Phase IVn9 >unless forum members say we should not be using Phase IVD3 >and there are real advantages to be using Phase V.  <snip>  B Do you (or your clients) have a "requirement" that HP support your configuration?  M If so, you will need to know that Phase IV is on "prior version support", and<N support calls to HP/VMS Engineering could get expensive, in the aggregate.  OfO course, many will argue (perhaps correctly) that Phase IV works so well that itr/ does not need support calls, but consider this:e  J What if your network equipment vendor has a software upgrade that "breaks"K DECnet?  Support calls to HP could get expensive quickly.  A few years ago,eL Cisco released a version of IOS that did *not* play nicely with DECnet.  OurL site was on Phase V at the time, so I was able to get the technical folks atN our site, Cisco, and COMPAQ (at the time) to figure out what was wrong, and toO order a back-out of the IOS versin, until Cisco could come up with a patch/fix.   2 All without paying an extra dime in support costs.   >Jim Strehlow, Data911 >OpenVMS Systems Manager >Alameda, CA, USAm  A _________________________________________________________________t0 Bradford J. Hamilton			"All opinions are my own"/ bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm		"Lose the MAPS"a   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:42:21 +0200e4 From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>J Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?& Message-ID: <3EB6CCAD.9080603@Free.fr>   Jim Strehlow wrote:  ../..e4 > The client has "no special need to be on Phase V".  Q There is no "special need to be on Phase V" unless you need to do DECnet over IP.e  < > Should we go through the pain to migrate to DECnet Phase V   No (see previously)l   > or install DECnet Phase IV?b  L Yes, you should. A VMS system without (real) DECnet, i.e. DECnet-IV, is not Q complete and cannot do networking with other DEC systems, unless you want to use uO IP only, which does not allow SET HOST, FAL, TASK=0, Network MBX communication p% and so many other wonderful features.a  & > We prefer to stay on DECnet Phase IV: > unless forum members say we should not be using Phase IV4 > and there are real advantages to be using Phase V.  O There are NO (pure personal opinion shared by all and every VMS system manager f( that I know, and I know a lot worldwide)  7 > What version of DECnet are other forum members using?A  
 Not relevant.i   > If we must migrate, F >  - what .DAT files do we need to copy from their production Phase IV > computer?s  O You copy nothing. You upgrade to DECnet Plus and the upgrade procedure will do  K the minimum for you. But you are warned. DECnet Plus needs a full month of e& training to understand how it "works".  G >  - what do I need to do in order to connect their Phase V computer tot > our Phase IV computer?  ; Nothing particular but doing the equivalent of the command:r  / $ mc ncp copy known nodes from MYPHS4:: to both   Q command which does not exist within DECnet-Plus. Even NCP has been superceded by f NCL (welcome to the Club).   D. President of the DILD:SNDo, (DECnet-IV Is Like DEC: Should Never Die :-)   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:33:43 +0200+ From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>nJ Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?5 Message-ID: <b96lbt$fuvsa$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>e  ; "Jim Strehlow" <JimStrehlow@data911.com> schreef in berichtn7 news:4b6ec350.0305051030.33c82e31@posting.google.com...eH > We have configured many independent remote sites under DECnet Phase IV > over the past dozen years.? > We have not yet needed DEC/Compaq/HP's help with any problems>- > regarding DECnet Phase IV over those years.  >,3 > We do not have any DECnet dependent applications..H > We usually configure a client's OpenVMS AlphaServer using DECnet Phase: > IV to network copy files from development to production. >mE > One of our clients who is in production on a remote DECnet Phase IVt@ > system sent us a new AlphaServer that has DECnet Phase V on it > (preinstalled.)t >i4 > The client has "no special need to be on Phase V". >a< > Should we go through the pain to migrate to DECnet Phase V > or install DECnet Phase IV?v  L IP over DECnet is a feature not found in phase IV. IIRC the DECnis and DEMSAJ systems required a phase V management node at one time. Phase V has a muchJ larger address space than the 16 bits that are used by phase IV. AFAIK theI 65k node limit in phase IV was mainly a problem for Digital itself. OthertH than that there's no functional need for phase V. There is the matter ofJ support though, phase IV may be in prior version support today and that'll cost you extra. D NCP is a comfortable interface for most of us. Mainly because systemH managers have used it since phase IV came out. But NCL is more powerful,J allows you to inspect counters of IP and LAT as well and usually a better,G albeit over engineered interface. If there ever was a case of a "secondt$ system effect" then look at phase V.  & > We prefer to stay on DECnet Phase IV: > unless forum members say we should not be using Phase IV4 > and there are real advantages to be using Phase V. >e7 > What version of DECnet are other forum members using?n  K My previous company went to phase V. We needed ncl to manage DEMSA systems.aI So all systems but four went to phase V. Never had any problems with area,) routing or phase IV-phase V connectivity.hI At home I run a VAXcluster on phase V and all other nodes on phase IV. Noo problem there either.n   > If we must migrate, F >  - what .DAT files do we need to copy from their production Phase IV > computer?u  G Use the phase V migration tool on systems that already run phase IV andiF sys$manager:net$configure on new systems. That works without problems.  G >  - what do I need to do in order to connect their Phase V computer to  > ours >    Phase IV computer?e  J Nothing special, but remember that phase V has a very large address space,I so if you want to connect from phase IV nodes to phase V nodes, make surei6 that all phase V nodes use areas in the range 1 .. 63.  
 Hans Vlems   > Thank you for your input.i >t > Jim Strehlow, Data911h > OpenVMS Systems Manager  > Alameda, CA, USA   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 16:16:47 -0500o- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)lJ Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?3 Message-ID: <QBhYTi+usxJY@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ] In article <3EB6CCAD.9080603@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> writes:o > Jim Strehlow wrote:s > ../..y5 >> The client has "no special need to be on Phase V".t > S > There is no "special need to be on Phase V" unless you need to do DECnet over IP.   ' Or use the DEC X.500 Directory Service.e   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 18:30:14 -05004- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)oJ Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?3 Message-ID: <4R5Lx48CsiPu@eisner.encompasserve.org>t   In article <rdeininger-0505031926060001@user-uinj4bq.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:   I > The easiest way to migrate phase IV to phase V is run the configurationnJ > tool on a system that already has the phase IV configuration.  You couldG > find the approptirate files and move them over to a new system, but Ih" > don't know of a definitive list.  D Be aware, however, that Phase V has no security feature analogous to the Phase IV feature  ) 	MCR NCP SET EXECUTOR DEFAULT ACCESS NONEo   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:26:06 -0400m2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)J Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0505031926060001@user-uinj4bq.dialup.mindspring.com>  = In article <4b6ec350.0305051030.33c82e31@posting.google.com>,u- JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow) wrote:v  G >We have configured many independent remote sites under DECnet Phase IVi >over the past dozen years.h> >We have not yet needed DEC/Compaq/HP's help with any problems, >regarding DECnet Phase IV over those years. >o2 >We do not have any DECnet dependent applications.G >We usually configure a client's OpenVMS AlphaServer using DECnet Phase 9 >IV to network copy files from development to production.u > D >One of our clients who is in production on a remote DECnet Phase IV? >system sent us a new AlphaServer that has DECnet Phase V on ito >(preinstalled.) > 3 >The client has "no special need to be on Phase V".  >e; >Should we go through the pain to migrate to DECnet Phase Vm >or install DECnet Phase IV?  J I prefer phase V.  It took a while to learn it, but after that it's no bigC deal.  Much more functionality, cheaper support costs, some ongoingpJ developement.  But phase IV will run first on I64, since it is smaller and simpler.   I A simple system configuration takes about 5 or 10 minutes.  New folks can-G be baffled by the availablility of multiple "namespaces" (especially if.C they didn't read the introductory docs): LOCAL, DOMAIN, and DECDNS.e  J The LOCAL namespace is roughly equivalent to Phase IV addressing.  If thisF is the only one you enable, you have to answer about 10 questions, andB IIRC you can take the defaults for all of them.  The configurationD procedure will offer to convert your phase IV configuration if it is present.  J DECDNS is the huge, highly scaleable phase V address space.  It allows you: to put your DECnet name/address information in centralizedJ "clearinghouses", so that you don't have to manage each node individually.  6 DOMAIN lets DECnet use a TCPIP DNS name/address space.  I Phase V emits more "noisy" status messages to OPCOM than phase IV does by,I default.  They are easy to turn off, but unless you're clairvoiant you'll ( need to read the docs for an hour or so.  G The easiest way to migrate phase IV to phase V is run the configuration3H tool on a system that already has the phase IV configuration.  You couldE find the approptirate files and move them over to a new system, but I0  don't know of a definitive list.     You ought to at least try it.p   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 16:55:21 -0700I( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)J Subject: Re: DECnet-Plus (DECnet PhaseV) (DECnet/OSI) migration necessary?= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0305051555.40079fd6@posting.google.com>h  q JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow) wrote in message news:<4b6ec350.0305051030.33c82e31@posting.google.com>...tH > We have configured many independent remote sites under DECnet Phase IV > over the past dozen years.? > We have not yet needed DEC/Compaq/HP's help with any problemst- > regarding DECnet Phase IV over those years.t > 3 > We do not have any DECnet dependent applications.uH > We usually configure a client's OpenVMS AlphaServer using DECnet Phase: > IV to network copy files from development to production. > E > One of our clients who is in production on a remote DECnet Phase IVl@ > system sent us a new AlphaServer that has DECnet Phase V on it > (preinstalled.)- > 4 > The client has "no special need to be on Phase V". > < > Should we go through the pain to migrate to DECnet Phase V > or install DECnet Phase IV?-& > We prefer to stay on DECnet Phase IV: > unless forum members say we should not be using Phase IV4 > and there are real advantages to be using Phase V. > 7 > What version of DECnet are other forum members using?  >  > If we must migrate,nF >  - what .DAT files do we need to copy from their production Phase IV > computer?jG >  - what do I need to do in order to connect their Phase V computer toN > ourY >    Phase IV computer?y >  > Thank you for your input.n >  > Jim Strehlow, Data911t > OpenVMS Systems Manager  > Alameda, CA, USA  < for copies, remote access, accessing rms databases and other< basic funtionality, phase IV is all you will ever need, even< if you need true phase IV over IP, TCPware has it ... unless< you need a challenge in your life and enjoy typing 5 phase V, commands for every 1 phase IV command ... :)   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:07:14 +0200e, From: Albrecht Schlosser <ajs856@tiscali.de>- Subject: Re: DECserver / Modem Hangup Problemo, Message-ID: <h8969b.jlc.ln@news.hus-soft.de>   Vinit Adya wrote:o >  > Gentlemen!E > I have DecServer 900 connected to modems. The moment i call up thishE > modem (ie afetr handshake and CD) the modem disconnects itself. ItsXF > not a communication from, its a problem on the EIA232 problem. (If iF > am connected to the DecServer modem port through LAT i have a stableD > Connect) The flow control is hardware CTS-DSR-RTS-DTR on server as > well as the modem. >  > Could you help me out please  $ To help you, we need more info, e.g.  , - what kind of modem (Hayes/AT compatible ?)) - what kind of connector ? (DB-9 / DB-25)V1 - what kind of cable ? (which pins are connected)r3 - full decserver port characteristics (list port n)g2 - modem setup, if possible (ATI4, AT&V or similar)& - is it a dial-in problem ? (seems so) - do you / can you dial out ?t  D AFAIK, the DecServer 900 doesn't have full modem support, but I knowG that you can get a working configuration. The main point is to make thenF right cabling _and_ to have the right modem setup. From my experience,G each modem has it's own special parameters, even if they are Hayes (AT)n compatible.e  D For a dial-in modem, you may need to set some modem parameters (echoD off, etc.) and _save_ them in the default configuration (e.g. AT&W).  C For the first tests you may try setting the terminal server port to D "signal control disabled" and "modem control disabled" (like a localH port). This should enable you to dial in. But _don't_ leave it this way,F since this IS a security risk (the terminal server doesn't log out the port when disconnected).   Albrecht SchloerM   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 13:52:22 -0700i, From: vinit.adya@mizuhocbus.com (Vinit Adya)- Subject: Re: DECserver / Modem Hangup Problemo= Message-ID: <eb8f4d7b.0305051252.7a4b8e02@posting.google.com>    Thanks a lot for the support.n I figured the problem.A It seems the DECServer sends a carriage return witle the modem isPD still training with the remore modem. This carriage return makes theB Modem connected to the DECServer to drop the line. I forced DTR toD follow CD. This way DTR is not assetterted till we have CD and modem5 is out of "Command Mode". So the connection stays up.c    e` Albrecht Schlosser <ajs856@tiscali.de> wrote in message news:<h8969b.jlc.ln@news.hus-soft.de>... > Vinit Adya wrote:A > >  > > Gentlemen!G > > I have DecServer 900 connected to modems. The moment i call up thisnG > > modem (ie afetr handshake and CD) the modem disconnects itself. ItslH > > not a communication from, its a problem on the EIA232 problem. (If iH > > am connected to the DecServer modem port through LAT i have a stableF > > Connect) The flow control is hardware CTS-DSR-RTS-DTR on server as > > well as the modem. > >   > > Could you help me out please > & > To help you, we need more info, e.g. > . > - what kind of modem (Hayes/AT compatible ?)+ > - what kind of connector ? (DB-9 / DB-25)e3 > - what kind of cable ? (which pins are connected)t5 > - full decserver port characteristics (list port n)t4 > - modem setup, if possible (ATI4, AT&V or similar)( > - is it a dial-in problem ? (seems so) > - do you / can you dial out ?r > F > AFAIK, the DecServer 900 doesn't have full modem support, but I knowI > that you can get a working configuration. The main point is to make theuH > right cabling _and_ to have the right modem setup. From my experience,I > each modem has it's own special parameters, even if they are Hayes (AT)m
 > compatible.t > F > For a dial-in modem, you may need to set some modem parameters (echoF > off, etc.) and _save_ them in the default configuration (e.g. AT&W). > E > For the first tests you may try setting the terminal server port totF > "signal control disabled" and "modem control disabled" (like a localJ > port). This should enable you to dial in. But _don't_ leave it this way,H > since this IS a security risk (the terminal server doesn't log out the > port when disconnected). >  > Albrecht Schloere   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 13:06:06 -0700n1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)n< Subject: Re: Gartner: HP is #1 vendor of servers for Q1 2003= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0305051206.286ed1f6@posting.google.com>t   Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote in message news:<3EAF9B5A.2060901@nospamn.sun.com>...i< > Perhaps you should read this article it seems that Gartner: > and IDC arn't happy with HP over the rather creative way5 > that have been spinning their market share numbers.o > - > http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/030429/tech_1.htmle  E Actually, it sounds like it is Sun bigots who are upset, and fearful.e  8 I read that article, which can be summarized as follows:  B o  "Sun has been the UNIX market-share leader for years.  It's notB fair for HP to take that away from Sun, because Sun had it first." ... A o  "Sun had greater market share gains than HPQ, so even if HP iseD bigger now, it's not fair to call HP #1." [and let's not look at theD what, 49%? drop in revenues Sun suffered after the dot-bomb a coupleB of years or so back, which provides a conveniently-lower referenceE point for last year's market share and this year's desperate struggle  back]  ...AC o  "It's not fair to count all of Compaq's UNIX revenues in 2002 as.0 HP's since the merger only went through in May." ...hE o  "It's not fair to count 32-bit boxes as UNIX systems.  Only 64-bituF boxes should count, because Sun only started selling 32-bit UNIX boxes in August, late in the year."e   What a bunch of whiners!  A And since you brought up the subject of Gartner and IDC, in TerrykE Shannon's latest SKHPC newsletter, he notes some other things Gartnert) and IDC analysts have been saying lately.E  9 A recent Gartner report says Sun has poor marketing, poorxC communication, and an inconsistent strategy for its point products,xD and must prove how it will be relevant in the coming years.  GartnerC reports customers are worried about Sun's ability to serve them and A about product quality.  As a result, Gartner is downgrading Sun's , vendor rating from "promising" to "caution".  F IDC echoes many of the Gartner concerns, and notes that some wonder ifF Sun will be remain around long enough to deliver on its promises.   AsF Terry put it, 'IDC notes that "Skepticism on [Sun's] ability to regain@ its leadership position in any technology area is at an all time high."'r   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 13:31:36 -0700n1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)sB Subject: Re: HELP: SCA Traffic - Transmit Sequence Packet Timeouts< Message-ID: <cf15391e.0305051231.72b93b0@posting.google.com>  9 jodonnell@hrblock.com (Jason O'Donnell) wrote in message  C > We have noticed some errors with our SCA traffic in two differentJ2 > clusters, we are getting about 800 errors a day.  D The error count for SeqPkt Timeouts matches that of Retransmits.  ItE appears PEDRIVER believes some (relatively small) fraction of packets E are getting dropped, and is retransmitting them.  You could check theiC ReRcv (Re-Receive) counters in SDA -- if you see counts there, thatrE means a packet was received more than once, so likely the Ack for theRD packet was lost (or excessively delayed), and PEDRIVER retransmittedA the packet as a result.  If the ReRcv counts are low, the packetso= themselves, rather than their Acks, are likely what got lost.t  @ On the Cisco 6509s, you could check the counters for things likeB Discard Out errors, to see if the Ciscos are aware of dropping any packets.   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 15:34:01 -0500B- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)oE Subject: Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill ToddL3 Message-ID: <8X01ZZkaRkHb@eisner.encompasserve.org>o  S In article <b96ebd$hru$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes:v  P > Today I read an article in by Terry Shannon in the april issue of HP World (I S > think), where he explains how this whole thing happened. He writes that the move yP > came from the Alpha engineers, who saw big problems occuring in the design of S > the EV8. He claims that these enigineers went to Intel to have very confidential eM > talks about the developments with Intel and the Alpha development. And the  P > result from those discussions was that it would be better to move to Itanium, P > because around 2005 the Itanium would be faster then the Alpha. We have heard E > this story before, but he gives many more details then I give here.T > S > Maybe this is true, I don't know. If it is true, then it shows how poorly Compaq  > > (and later HP) explained to the customers what was going on.  D I don't see how.  The idea that Alpha would no longer have a lead byF the time EV8 came out was well publicized at the time Compaq said they would switch to Itanium.  9 Other explanations were available from c.o.v., of course.    ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 17:01:13 -0500-- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)TE Subject: Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill ToddI3 Message-ID: <c$d5vhxF$Nyz@eisner.encompasserve.org>D  S In article <b96m78$78c$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes:= > Larry Kilgallen wrote:  G >> I don't see how.  The idea that Alpha would no longer have a lead byoI >> the time EV8 came out was well publicized at the time Compaq said theyd >> would switch to Itanium.u >> > 7 > I know it was said by Compaq, but not made plausible.o  
 It was to me.i   > And how can it be true if : > they now need Alpha technology to speed up the Itanium ?  . "Need" is a fuzzy term.  How about "can use" ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:43:19 -0400e* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>E Subject: Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd ) Message-ID: <3EB6DAE9.B3E808FF@istop.com>    someone wrote:  F > I don't see how.  The idea that Alpha would no longer have a lead byH > the time EV8 came out was well publicized at the time Compaq said they > would switch to Itanium.  N Funny, I kept hearing about presentations showing how Alpha would maintain itsL lead and how IA64,s basic premise for acrhitecture was flawed and that Intel' would have a very hard time keeping up.i  N It is now obvious that I live in a different world linked to the real one only by NNTP.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:43:07 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>E Subject: Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Toddi2 Message-ID: <b96m78$78c$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Larry Kilgallen wrote:U > In article <b96ebd$hru$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes:e >  > P >>Today I read an article in by Terry Shannon in the april issue of HP World (I S >>think), where he explains how this whole thing happened. He writes that the move sP >>came from the Alpha engineers, who saw big problems occuring in the design of S >>the EV8. He claims that these enigineers went to Intel to have very confidential nM >>talks about the developments with Intel and the Alpha development. And the oP >>result from those discussions was that it would be better to move to Itanium, P >>because around 2005 the Itanium would be faster then the Alpha. We have heard E >>this story before, but he gives many more details then I give here.  >>S >>Maybe this is true, I don't know. If it is true, then it shows how poorly Compaq  > >>(and later HP) explained to the customers what was going on. >  > F > I don't see how.  The idea that Alpha would no longer have a lead byH > the time EV8 came out was well publicized at the time Compaq said they > would switch to Itanium. >s  P I know it was said by Compaq, but not made plausible. And how can it be true if H they now need Alpha technology to speed up the Itanium ? It is all very 
 inconsistent.t    ; > Other explanations were available from c.o.v., of course.E   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:30:32 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>F Subject: Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd!) Message-ID: <3EB6ADC6.492FA199@istop.com>D   Keith Parris wrote: B > recommend), and the record there seems to indicate that Compaq'sC > decision to move from Alpha to Itanium occurred before the mergero > discussions started.  T Well, when they killed NT on Alpha, it seems to me that the decision had been taken.  K However, what I think happened is that Carly precipitated the process whichmN resulted in the premature murder of Alpha, otherwise, Compaq would have waited# longer before announcing its plans.g   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:28:52 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd!2 Message-ID: <b96ebd$hru$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Keith Parris wrote:mZ > Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote in message news:<b8n11j$eq7$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>... > % >>This is what I think that happened.mO >>The CEO's of HP and Compaq were talking about a merger, or better a takeover iR >>from Compaq by HP. However there was one big problem. Both companies had a line Q >>of midrange computer systems that were totaly incompatible. Keeping both lines >R >>would have been impossible. At that time HP was working on the successor of the S >>PA Risc architecture, and they did that in cooperation with Intel. So they had a yM >>  choice, using the superior Alpha architecture, or going for the unproven d	 >>Itanic.t >  > A > I recently read the book 'Perfect Enough: Carly Fiorina and the B > Reinvention of Hewlett-Packard' by George Anders (which I highlyB > recommend), and the record there seems to indicate that Compaq'sC > decision to move from Alpha to Itanium occurred before the merger- > discussions started.    N Today I read an article in by Terry Shannon in the april issue of HP World (I Q think), where he explains how this whole thing happened. He writes that the move sN came from the Alpha engineers, who saw big problems occuring in the design of Q the EV8. He claims that these enigineers went to Intel to have very confidential  K talks about the developments with Intel and the Alpha development. And the  N result from those discussions was that it would be better to move to Itanium, N because around 2005 the Itanium would be faster then the Alpha. We have heard C this story before, but he gives many more details then I give here.m  Q Maybe this is true, I don't know. If it is true, then it shows how poorly Compaq vM (and later HP) explained to the customers what was going on. Their marketing eP people don't seem to understand that there is a difference between selling soap K (All new ! It remove all stains ! It washes whiter then white) and selling wO computer systems. Maybe the explanation is that Compaq marketing doesn't grasp oH this kind of customers. No one has a love affair with a PC. We all feel M instinctively that is is a throw away product, with a junk OS. But people do  O have love affairs with good computer products, be it an Atari, PDP, Vax, Alpha  8 or Mac. And since Compaq was in essence a PC seller ....  O Most Alpha customers have technical knowledge, and believed in the superiority eM of the Alpha, supported by Compaq marketing. You just can't expect customers mQ (and Compaq staff) to suddenly make a 180 degrees turn in their thinking without eO a damned good explanation. Still assuming that Terry' story is true, then that hK is where Curly c.s. failed miserably. They should have understood that the iL customers needed more then a vague hallelujah story over the virtues of the Q Itanium, before they were prepared to accept this move. A good white paper could eN have done the trick. Still assuming Terry's story is true, then it would have M been far better to give a cool and well founded explanation about the Itanic k- move then trying to sell it the way they did.u  P The result of this marketing blunder: years of paranoid discussions in this and O other news groups, and lack of confidence in anything Compaq and HP management aP tell us. Of course still asuming Terry is telling us the truth, and this is not - a later fabricated story to explain the move.c   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 16:32:24 -0400c* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>F Subject: Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd!) Message-ID: <3EB6CA4E.29CBA64A@istop.com>t   Dirk Munk wrote:O > came from the Alpha engineers, who saw big problems occuring in the design ofnR > the EV8. He claims that these enigineers went to Intel to have very confidentialE > talks about the developments with Intel and the Alpha development. a  F I think that this propaganda. One cannot bite the hand that feeds it.     J Alpha was right up there with the Jones'. If Alpha would have had problemsN with the technologies planned for EV8, so would Intel, IBM and all others. AndM if they couldn't have implemented some of the fancy features planned for EV8,tY then they won't be able to implement them on IA64, especially since IA64 is so different.M  M And this still doesn't explain why Capellas began to wind down Alpha year agovH when he gave strong signal to Microsoft that Compaq wouldn't push Alpha.  L What is possible is that some Alpha engineers, cogniscent of the real CompaqJ plans, went over to Intel to talk shop and see how much Alpha technologies would be worth to Intel.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:32:42 -0500P1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>eF Subject: Re: How Alpha will save Itanium - must reading for Bill Todd!' Message-ID: <3EB702AA.1E2F575B@fsi.net>    Keith Parris wrote:f > Z > Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote in message news:<b8n11j$eq7$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>...' > > This is what I think that happened.aP > > The CEO's of HP and Compaq were talking about a merger, or better a takeoverS > > from Compaq by HP. However there was one big problem. Both companies had a linepR > > of midrange computer systems that were totaly incompatible. Keeping both linesS > > would have been impossible. At that time HP was working on the successor of theVT > > PA Risc architecture, and they did that in cooperation with Intel. So they had aN > >   choice, using the superior Alpha architecture, or going for the unproven > > Itanic.d > A > I recently read the book 'Perfect Enough: Carly Fiorina and the-B > Reinvention of Hewlett-Packard' by George Anders (which I highlyB > recommend), and the record there seems to indicate that Compaq'sC > decision to move from Alpha to Itanium occurred before the mergere > discussions started.  F ...which would seem to support conjecture expressed in this forum that/ Alpha's fate was sealed long before the merger.>  @ Does the book offer any explanation for such colossal stupidity?   -- ? David J. DachteraB dba DJE Systems. http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/a   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:33:54 -0600  From: Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net>c- Subject: Re: How to run VMS on PC Please help,& Message-ID: <3EB6AE92.3010702@srv.net>  
 Fakhar wrote:n > Dear all,n > C > I need some help regarding VMS installation on PC running windowsc > 2000.d% > I have downloaded the evax emulatoruH > http://www.forest-edge.net/evax.html and now I want to run VMS on this) > emulator. Can anyone help me with this.8 > H > If there is no way to do such installation then please tell me how can" > I run VMS on my PC free of cost.    > The evax emulator is not complete enough to run VMS, or reallyC any other OS. Last time I played with it, it didn't have a complete>> instruction set implemented, nor anything other than a console; port. Some VMS calls are built into this emulator, but thatV8 doesn't help with running VMS itself. Too many necessary bits are not there yet.)  B I'd recommend simh, or ts10 instead. Sometimes there's a CharonVaxB emulator available too. All these are known to be able to run VMS.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 02:32:51 +0100b- From: David Powell <ddotpowell@icuknet.co.uk>tP Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBMmonopoly8 Message-ID: <354ebv8bn61r2lkemvt1s5t0ogq4432a7n@4ax.com>  0 In article <b95rb7$127c$2@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>,  7  hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins)  inn alt.folklore.computers wrote:i  * >In article <3EB5A23C.1A725141@istop.com>,- >JF Mezei  <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:  >>CBFalconer wrote:eC >>> > The Perth *Australia* area isn't exactly "in or near Ottawa",t  >>> > although Perth Ontario is. >b, >>> That depends entirely on your viewpoint. >p# >>Ok, from an australian viewpoint:iF >>http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/gazm01?placename=ottawa&placetype=0&state=0 > N >>Reveals that there is only a "Ottawa Creek" in Australia. And since Perth isP >>not far from the exact opposite on the earth (in french: antipode) from OttawaG >>Ontario, I'd say that there is very little argument to say that PerthxG >>Australia is close to Ottawa Ontario, unless you are a space alien 20, >>gazillion light years away.g > D >Even if you're a Venetian (we all know that there are no Martians).    3 I wouldn't want to shift a tape drive on a gondola.a  # Was that why the Martians died out?o   Regards,   David P.   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 18:01:10 -07000( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)A Subject: Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!I= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0305051701.72e77a01@posting.google.com>    Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote in message news:<3EAF9A38.1010100@nospamn.sun.com>...sC > Incedentally the best HP SPECWEB_SSL benchmark result on a rx2600o* > with 2 x 1 GHz 3 MB cache CPU's is 1230. > < > The best Sun V210/V240 number with 2 x 1 GHz CPU's is 833. > ; > The list price of the rx2600 config used for the test wasa) > according to your website ~46K dollars.e > 1 > A Sun V240 with 8 GB and a crypto 2x 1GHz CPU'sl0 > internal disks 4 GB NICS costs 8K dollars. The! > V210 would be 500 dollars less.e > 0 > So at 16K for two we end up with a faster more3 > resiliant solution and still have 30K left in the  > pot. > / > It doesn't take a genius to work out that youh, > won't be selling many at that price as web, > servers and even at half the price you are > still a long way adrift. > 	 > Regardsi > Andrew Harrisonh  : now Andrew, don't go quoting spec and cert figures, as you" have stated, they mean nothing ...  8 as for that extra $30,000 ... that will be taken care of6 by all the overtime to patch and reboot ... and that's just for one year, so   6 $30000 x 4 yrs left to patch/reboot, and your solution is $120000 on the wrong side!t   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:04:24 GMTn& From: hoffman@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)2 Subject: Re: license generation question revisited0 Message-ID: <Y5Cta.296$ey7.188@news.cpqcorp.net>  ] In article <3skbbvosqmohgrs5va4qa2mqcf8fshg42q@4ax.com>, Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.nbet> writes:e  # :I went and got an HP DSSP thing...   @ :So, given I am still at the internal testing phase of my stuff,A :not ready to do anything with it yet, can I get a pakgen license5= :and compile on the commercial machines for testing purposes?e :l :or does this cost money?s  I   DSPP offers the ability to generate PAKs, but I don't immediately know $G   if the PAKGEN offering is part of the free program or not.  (I'd tends6   to assume not, but do not know that to be the case.)    9 :I still havent figured out if I want to go commercial oro: :open source at this point, or go license restricted until0 :the product is mature, and then go open source. ..  E   You need to determine what you want to do, then work on the problem C   resolution from there.  (No offense is intended here, of course.)a  5 :I am developing a product, which the end result will ; :be open source, thus it will never be commercial, however, < :I am not ready at this time to release it as such, however,: :I want to give it out for development/application testing< :with license restrictions to control where development goesC :(ie: I don't trust the developers I'm dealing with as far as I cana :throw them)  E   There are various ways to lock a package onto a platform -- if this F   effort is strictly for a package that will soon be widely available,E   then the work of acquiring a vendor token and the associated PAKGENtD   license key is probably overkill.  (Get some configuration data onE   the target system, and hard-code it and an expiration date into thehF   application -- code that retrieves the Ethernet address is available#   at the Ask The Wizard website.)  n  E   PAKGEN is certainly a good choice for an OpenVMS product that is a aE   commercial offering, but acquiring the token and the PAKGEN PAK andhE   then generating the PAKs is clearly a multi-step process.  (As mucheG   as seeing the Ethernet address and a time-bomb licensing scheme codedtG   into an application causes me distate, it's less work than the PAKGENaG   path for a one-off installation.  PAKGEN becomes far more useful wheneF   you want to track licenses and keys, when you want loans of product,H   and when you have multiple and usually commercial installations, etc.)  = :so my plan is to compile it on the commercial box, with the  > :real license, use pakgen, distribute the code for development< :and testing, and when ready, toss the license restrictions,( :and release it open source (under GPL).  D   You can release a PAK with the product, if you wish to open up theG   access -- various packages on the OpenVMS Freeware use this approach.m  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------J       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.comN  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:41:36 -0400o! From: Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net>e2 Subject: Re: license generation question revisited8 Message-ID: <ngbebvksdms64v37dpo2jo7n55b7bhu21m@4ax.com>  B On Mon, 05 May 2003 23:04:24 GMT, hoffman@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote:J >  DSPP offers the ability to generate PAKs, but I don't immediately know H >  if the PAKGEN offering is part of the free program or not.  (I'd tend7 >  to assume not, but do not know that to be the case.)e  > ok, I'll check the DSPP page and see if I can figure that out.  F >  PAKGEN is certainly a good choice for an OpenVMS product that is a F >  commercial offering, but acquiring the token and the PAKGEN PAK andF >  then generating the PAKs is clearly a multi-step process.  (As muchH >  as seeing the Ethernet address and a time-bomb licensing scheme codedH >  into an application causes me distate, it's less work than the PAKGENH >  path for a one-off installation.  PAKGEN becomes far more useful whenG >  you want to track licenses and keys, when you want loans of product, I >  and when you have multiple and usually commercial installations, etc.)g  E yes exactly, loans of a product. which is what brought me here in thep first place.  E >  You can release a PAK with the product, if you wish to open up theVH >  access -- various packages on the OpenVMS Freeware use this approach.  E ok, for the sake of argument let's try this. How do I try to generate ? a PAK? I can't find a "pakgen" or documentation on it anywhere. E the license command doesnt seem simple to use in this case, refers to ; LMF which has no documentation (at least none that I have).N  C I have some "wall of grey" which I'll check but thought this method0 may be faster ;)   B.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 05:37:18 GMTa4 From: "Mark Buda" <buda@tabasco.zko.dec.no.spam.com>2 Subject: Re: license generation question revisited0 Message-ID: <iSHta.302$s_7.120@news.cpqcorp.net>  . "Beyonder" <beyonder@vrx.net> wrote in message2 news:ngbebvksdms64v37dpo2jo7n55b7bhu21m@4ax.com...G > ok, for the sake of argument let's try this. How do I try to generateaA > a PAK? I can't find a "pakgen" or documentation on it anywhere.sG > the license command doesnt seem simple to use in this case, refers toE= > LMF which has no documentation (at least none that I have).O >VE > I have some "wall of grey" which I'll check but thought this methodl > may be faster ;)  + Let me know if this answers your questions.n     --  
 Sincerely,	 Mark Budas Hewlett-Packard Companyr VMS Engineeringe 110 Spitbrook Road
 MS: ZK3-4/X57  Nashua, NH 03062 Voice: (603) 884-1969e FAX: (603) 884-3451S  + VMS Home Page http://www.openvms.compaq.come> OpenVMS Portal http://www.openvms.compaq.com/portal/index.html      * ------------------------------------------    F DSPP program. If you meet a partner, please ask them to contact the hp% developer & solution partner program.r 800 249 3294 www.hp.com/dsppa     Introduction  E PAKGEN produces LMF PAKs for software.  Digital Equipment Corporation-G developed LMF licensing technology for its OpenVMS operating system and.G layered products in the late 1980s.  Later, LMF was extended to Digital E UNIX (now Tru64 UNIX).  A central tenet of LMF is the security of thehD generator, PAKGEN.  PAKGEN was offered as a product, but Digital wasE restrictive and not many companies purchased the software.  Some ISVsnC asked for it, but it never was the mainstream.  Still, it's used tosE license the OpenVMS operating system and planned to be in the ItaniumeH port of OpenVMS.  For this reason, I proposed to offer PAKGEN to ISVs as a service of the CSA program.o" Responsible Organizations & People  D Members of Compaq's CSA program may request PAKGEN.  They make theirH request by logging into the Members Only website and filling out a form,H "Request for Technical Support" by following the links, "Request PortingF or Technical Support" for AlphaServer systems, "Development or PortingB Question."  In their request, the partner should put PAKGEN in theF Subject field and the requested TOKEN string in the textbox area "YourF request or concern."  CSA TechSupport will open a case for the requestG and forward it to the License Key manager.  The manager issues a PAKGEN-H key with the requested TOKEN string, and emails the key file to the ISV. ScopeC  C Worldwide.  CSA members must use the Members Only website to make aoH request and to download documentation.  The PAKGEN key file will be sent to them by email.a Cost   There is no cost to the member.  Prerequisite Software3  H Support for PAKGEN is integrated into OpenVMS Version 7.2 and later.  No, additional product installation is required. Support   E PAKGEN software is not warranted.  CSA TechSupport will provide "best B effort" support for ISVs that requested and received a PAKGEN key.D Backup support will come from OpenVMS engineering for questions thatB cannot be answered or for bugs that are entered in the PTR system.
 Documentationn  < General LMF documentation is provided in the OpenVMS product documentation. http://www.openvms.compaq.com/) OpenVMS License Management Utility Manual  Order Number: AA--PVXUF--TK   G An API for software programs that use LMF is documented in "DEC VMS/LMFuE System Services Reference Manual", available as a PDF file on the CSA- Members Only website.n  E PAKGEN user documentation is provided on the CSA Members Only website * for members to download and is here below: Generating License PAKsv  B The License Management Facility (LMF) is an OpenVMS component thatF provides system managers and product developers with a means to manageH and track software PAKs that have been issued to customers. Users of LMFE use the LMF Product Authorization Keys (PAKs) and the LMF database to F register and manage license PAKs.  Product developers use LMF to checkH for valid product licenses.  Product developers and product vendors must use LMF to generate new keys.y  F Each PAK includes a variety of fields that supply specific informationF about a product.  The most relevant fields for generating and trackingD license keys are the product name, product issuer, product producer,A product authorization, and product token. The product name is the0H designation for the particular product; that is, the specific product orF product group that is authorized by the key.  The producer is the nameH of the organization that produced or created the product.  Together, theG producer and the product name uniquely identify a product license.  The C issuer identifies the organization that generated the license; this = organization may or may not be the same as the producer.  TheSG authorization field is an arbitrary alphanumeric string that the issuer C can use as a key serial number or a customer-order tracking number.   G The product token is an alphanumeric string.  It cannot be more than 31hE characters.  Don't associate the string with a specific product name.BE The convention has historically been to refer to your Company name solH that the licenses are "identifiable" in an audit situation.  Please note that you cannot change it.  F Each product producer can have multiple product issuers; however, each@ issuer is individually authorized to generate license keys for aA particular producer.  The ability to generate keys is specific tokG individual producer/issuer pairs; the producer/issuer pair can generateeE keys for only that pair. An issuer who needs to generate licenses forsF multiple producers requires individual and separate authorizations for each producer.  G The run-time product license check is based on the product name and the F product producer.  The ability to generate product licenses is enabledF by a license key -- the product authorization key generation key.  TheF key generator key name is PAKGEN, and the producer and issuer are both: DEC.  The PAKGEN key uses the product token to declare theE producer/issuer pair that is authorized by the particular PAKGEN key.-  F Each PAKGEN PAK authorizes a code for a particular producer/issue pairF and for no others.  Although multiple PAKGEN PAKs can be registered inG parallel in the LMF database, a maximum of one PAKGEN PAK can be loadedh and active at a time.o  G Support for PAKGEN is integrated into OpenVMS (VAX & Alpha) Version 7.2n; and later.  No additional product installation is required.h  C The following sections describe how to use PAKGEN. The descriptionstE assume basic familiarity with PAKS and with the DCL commands commonlyl used with LMF.# Step 1: Register the PAKGEN Licenset  C The first step involved in the use of PAKGEN is registration of thew@ PAKGEN key.  To enable the PAKGEN key, use either the VMSLICENSEE procedure or the DCL commands LICENSE REGISTER and LICENSE LOAD.  YoutF must fill in each field of the PAKGEN license exactly as listed on the product license document.t  H The following example shows how to register and load the PAKGEN license:   $ LICENSE CREATE -- /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldbh   $ LICENSE REGISTER PAKGEN -f/ /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldb - 
 /ISSUER=DEC -  /PRODUCER=DEC - % /AUTHORIZATION=authorization-string -  /UNITS=license-units - /RELEASE=release-date  - /ACTIVITY=activity-code -m" /TOKEN=producer-name~issuer-name - /CHECKSUM=checksum $ LICENSE LOAD PAKGEN -?- /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldbr    E If licenses for multiple producer/issuer pairs are required, you mustTG first register the individual PAKGEN keys and then unload and load keysn& for the specific producer/issuer pair.  D The following example shows how to display a currently loaded PAKGEN license:   $ SHOW LICENSE PAKGEN/FULL   Active licenses on node XDELTA:a   PAKGEN         Producer: DEC.         Units: 100         Version: 0.0!         Release Date: 21-JAN-2000h          Termination Date: (none)         Availability: 100,         Activity: 0s         VAX_ALPHAs         Product Token: FOO~BAR  C Only the PAKGEN key that is issued by Compaq is honored for licensetF generation.  The only producer string that is valid for PAKGEN is DEC.$ Step 2: Generate the Product License  E To generate a license PAK, you must first use the DCL command PRODUCTvE REGISTER with the /GENERATE qualifier. Then, to generate the PAK, youeF must input specific product information by using the REGISTER/GENERATE# command with additional qualifiers.a  F It is strongly suggested that you register PAKGEN paks into a separateB database than the OpenVMS standard one.  This keeps the system LMFE database separate and untouched by anyone registering PAKGEN paks andn@ creating PAK's. Use the /DATABASE=device:[directory]database.ldb qualifier to accomplish this.A  F Once the particular license is registered in the LMF database, you useE the PRODUCT ISSUE command to produce the completed license key in ther desired format.t  B The /GENERATE qualifier is valid only when the producer and issuerF specified on the license PAK match a valid, loaded PAKGEN key.  If youG need to issue licenses for another producer/issuer pair, you must firstmE unload the PAKGEN license and then reload the license associated with  that producer/issuer pair.  E The following example shows how to generate a license and to create aa8 DCL procedure that contains the newly generated license:  * $ LICENSE REGISTER/GENERATE product-name -/ /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldb -e /PRODUCER=producer - /ISSUER=issuer -% /AUTHORIZATION=authorization-string - 
 /UNITS=0 -% /TERMINATION_DATE=termination-date  -' /ACTIVITY=activity-code -r /TOKEN=product-token-codek( $ LICENSE ISSUE/PROCEDURE product-name -/ /DATABASE=device:[directory]localdatabase.ldb -t' /OUTPUT=SYS$SCRATCH:PAK_PROCEDURE.COM -h# /AUTHORIZATION=authorization-stringo    A The following example shows the contents of the PAK_PROCEDURE.COMy4 procedure that was created by the preceding command:  - $! Software Product Authorization Key Replicai $! Issued by BUDAt $! Issued on  7-JAN-2002 06:49% $!-----------------------------------t! $ LICENSE REGISTER product-name -t /PRODUCER=producer - /ISSUER=issuer -% /AUTHORIZATION=authorization-string -s
 /UNITS=0 -% /TERMINATION_DATE=termination-date  -a /ACTIVITY=activity-code -  /TOKEN=product-token - /CHECKSUM=2-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxa& Using the Product Authorization String  ? You can use the product authorization string to track licenses,uG customers, the person or system that generated the license, as a serialtE number, and so on.  You should use a string format that allows all ofnE this information to be parsed easily; in particular, you should use aoH format that permits you to identify the format used as changes are made.  B For example, you can include an application-specific authorization? format identifier, a customer code, a unique serial number, and-@ information about when and where this particular license key was
 generated:   1-CUSTCODE-1234-2000021-SITE  B If the authorization format needs to be changed or enhanced in theE future, you can alter the value that you stored in the first field to B identify the particular format.  For example, in the authorizationF string of the preceding example, you could change the leading 1 to a 24 when the format of the authorization string changes.& Securing the Product Authorization Key  H Be careful to avoid both the release of the PAKGEN authorization key andF unintentional access to the OpenVMS system enabled for key generation.H Failure to maintain the security of the PAKGEN key or failure to controlB access to the generator can result in the creation of unauthorized
 license keys.x  D In particular, do not register the PAKGEN key in an untrusted systemE environment; register and load the PAKGEN key only during use, and doi" not release the PAKGEN key itself.   End of PAKGEN documentation  Frequently Asked Questions  4 Q: Where are the system services for LMF documented?: A:  Contact DSPP for the LMF System Service documentation.   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 22:31:21 -0700L( From: vasukulkarni@rediffmail.com (Vasu)( Subject: Make Device Online from Offline= Message-ID: <90d69ea0.0305052131.647640e9@posting.google.com>n   Hello Group,  9 How can i make a device Online from Offline.  For examplet4  If i give show dev dg .. i get few device offline..   $1$dga1..  online    $1$dga2..  offline..  @ I tried $mcr sysman io auto/log and also rebuid..  nothing works! except reboot(which i don't want)e   Thanks in advance..m --Vasu Kulkarni..e   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 16:28 CDT' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)b( Subject: Re: Migrate email to VMS server, Message-ID: <5MAY200316284868@gerg.tamu.edu>  W In article <65IoGqJ7j7as@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes...ta }In article <3EB2FF8C.188E6532@ost.cdrh.fda.gov>, Jonathan Boswell <jsb@ost.cdrh.fda.gov> writes:e }> Dave Greenwood wrote:N }>> If you copy the unix mail file to your VMS server you can try the DCL/TecoS }>> script posted by Skip Morris (morris@mv.mv.com) back in 1995.  I've never triede) }>> it myself.  See (watch for url wrap):  }>>  }>>  <URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:comp.os.vms+author:morris%40mv.mv.com&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=r&selm=DK8E95.Dt1%40mv.mv.com&rnum=9 > }> oQ }> Interesting.  I think I'll save that somewhere for future reference.  At first R }> blush, it appears that Skip is using TECO for the same reason as my TPU programS }> MX2VMSMAIL: it massages headers into a format that VMS understands.  DCL is used 5 }> to do the actual message import with the commands:  }> < }> $ open/append file 'tempcom'i }> $ write file "$ mail" }> $ write file "set file ",p12 }> $ write file "copy/all ",p3," ",p2,"/noconfirm" }> $ write file "exit" }> $ close filem }> $ @'tempcom'> }> dQ }> Having issued the MAIL COPY command by hand ad nauseum over the last couple ofeP }> days, I can assure you that it injects a spurious CR after the VMS header andE }> therefore the email client won't understand it as a MIMEd message.a } > }Can you not write another DCL snippet to remove the extra CR? }  }--  }Paul Sture   F Not unless said DCL snippet modifies the the executable that does this) (it is probably SYS$LIBRARY:MAILSHR.EXE).-  H Which seems like a very unpleasant prospect, but would solve the problem on a permanant basis.   G Or, maybe, it could go in and edit each MAIL.MAI file's contents. SincetH this is an indexed file, you might be able to look up the newly insertedG messages - especially if you stick them in a folder of known name wherew  there aren't any other messages.  % Good luck, you'll probably need it...e   --- Carl   ------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 18:45:27 +0000 (UTC), From: lewis@PROBE.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)C Subject: Re: Netscape 3.03 performance tip - set disk cache to zeroi. Message-ID: <b96bg7$180$1@newslocal.mitre.org>  r p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes in article <ZSX9Cr1vk55R@elias.decus.ch> dated 5 May 03 08:59:07 +0200:K >I noticed yesterday that Netscape 3.03 on VMS was running extremely slowlyhI >and hammering the disk. Remembering something about cache, I dug up thist >post on Google.  K >Indeed, I went to Options | Network Preferences, changed the disk cache totG >zero, clicked on "Clear disk cache now", and received an immediate and * >quite noticeable performance improvement.  D You'll get a feature-set improvement if you upgrade to Mozilla 1.3.  http://www.mozilla.orgI (And yes, setting the cache size to 0 is a good idea there too.  It mighti even be the default.)o  + --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.orgr> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:39:26 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>t/ Subject: Re: Not entirely OT: RSHELL to Solarist' Message-ID: <3EB7043D.389BC391@fsi.net>s   Dave Greenwood wrote:o > K > In a previous article, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:c > > Milton wrote:b > > > [snip]L > > > I assume from your silence, that the info I posted was what you needed > > > to do the job? > >s > > Well, sort of. > >rJ > > The combination of /etc/hosts.equiv and ~/.rhosts does allow me to runK > > my rsh from VMS without the password so long as my VMS username matches 1 > > the target username (on the Solaris machine).  > >0G > > What I wanted was for that to work regardless of the source machineuL > > username (DDACHTERA, OPERATOR, etc.). AFAICT, the only way to accomplishI > > that is to have a Solaris user entry with the same username as on then0 > > host machine, which is what I need to avoid. > ? > I don't have access to a Solaris system, but the man file foro= > /etc/hosts.equiv on a T64 system implies that an entry like  >  >   vms.system.adr + > H > will give *any* user on vms.system.adr access to the T64 system.  Then > I'd expect a command likeu > 7 >   $ rshell /user=Solaris_user_name Solaris.system.adrd > I > to provide password-less access to the Solaris system.  I've not tested- > this, however.  9 I'll try it tomorrow and post my results later this week.    > [snip] > F > > Thus I must still RSHELL to the machine to run the volumes by userL > > report, trap the output, then use SEARCH to (quickly) find those entriesJ > > which belong to user SYSTEM and have VM as the first two characters ofL > > the volume label. Then, I must build a list of ACSLS commands to set theJ > > owner of those cart.'s back to my cluster's id., FTP that command listK > > to the Solaris box (haven't figured out Multinet's RCP syntax yet - thesJ > > HELP is not accurate) and then RSHELL again to execute those commands. > I > I don't recall any problems with MultiNet's on-line help for rcp, but Ir > don't use it often.d  @ As it turns out, I think the problem may be that the help on theF production system for RCP is from UCX (was installed once when we wereD validating Cerner's proposal to switch from Multinet), while the RCPF facility is actually Multinet. I just looked on this machine here, andG the only hit I get on RCP has "@MULTINET" pre-pended to the topic name,  while at work this is not true.a  @ The Multinet HELP for RCP is consistent with my experimentation.   -- a David J. Dachterar dba DJE Systemsa http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/h   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:36:34 -0400h* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>' Subject: Re: OpenVMS Now on the HP ITRCf) Message-ID: <3EB6AF30.65CCF53A@istop.com>t   konabear wrote:hL > being added.  The extreme slowness that hit between 9-11 Eastern time thisJ > morning has been reported and is being investigated.  This not a OpenVMSN > Forum slowness specifically, but impacted the entire forum (and ITRC?) site.  J It is a given that any web-based forum will always be much slower than the proper medium: NNTP.    J Many companies, including microsoft, macromedia and others offer their ownN news server that provides access to their local/private newsgroups. Works veryI well. If microsoft can do it, then Sirley HP, a loyal puppy of Microsoft,d could do that too ?s   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:27:32 -0400s* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>3 Subject: Re: Oracle Rdb Release 7.1.1 Now Availablet) Message-ID: <3EB6AD13.FF6EC5F7@istop.com>l   Sue Skonetski wrote:
 > She's Back!p    J funny, this morning, I was just thinking that I hadn't heard from you in aK long while... Figured you had been captured by an engineer who wouldn't leta you leave his habitat :-)i   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 11:35:12 -0700e1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) 7 Subject: Re: SDA's PTHREAD command - Where's the docs??g= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0305051035.24257dea@posting.google.com>   u martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender) wrote in message news:<3eadf51f.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>...h0 > Gerald Marsh (gerald@cyfer.demon.co.uk) wrote:/ > > The OpenVMS SDA docs don't even mention it!  > L > ...because it's an extension. In fact, all images SYS$SHARE:*$SDA.EXE are. > D > These extensions have been implemented by engineers (mostly to aid= > debugging) for internal use initially. I'm not aware of anya5 > documentation apart from the included HELP command.e  ; SDA extensions are starting to be documnted -- in the 7.3-1dF documentation on the VMS website, in the OpenVMS Alpha System AnalysisB Tools Manual, the CLUE, SPL, and XFC extensions are documented, asD well as the routines one can use to create one's own SDA extension. W See http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/731FINAL/6549/6549pro_contents_001.html#toc_chapter_8s   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:33:51 -0500T, From: Bob Blunt <robert.blunt@hp.nospam.com>0 Subject: Re: Second SCSI adapter fro PSW/AU - UK, Message-ID: <3eb6a3be$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   Chris Townley wrote:H > I want to add a second  SCSI adapter to my home PSW 433 AU in order toG > use a BA356 shelf. This should be fast, rather than ultra, as it is ah > beige shelf. > 7 > Currently have "device type Qlogic ISP1020 SCSI port"  > F > Is this the best to get, and if so where can I get one at a sensible > price in the UK? >  > TIA,G Chris, first questions:  Does your BA356 have a personality module and eF what type drives are installed in the shelf?  This can determine what  controller you need to find.  I Second question:  What/how do you want to use that shelf?  Do you simply pH want JBOD access?  Depending on the type personality module and drives, I you may be able to get by with a KZPAA-AA (if you want inexpensive).  If lI you want more "modern," look for a DS-KZPBA-CA or KZPDA-AA.  All are PCI tD to Single-ended NON-RAID variants with a single channel.  If you're F short on slots, look for a KZPCM-DA which is a combo board with three B channels and one Ethernet (be CAREFUL, the KZPCM comes in NON-VMS F versions that will NOT work on a VMS system, you need the DS-KZPCM-DA  specifically).  H If you want RAID, there are also a handful of bus adapters for the PCI, F depending on how many channels you want, etc.  A single channel RAID, H PCI adapter is the KZPAC-AA and this is one of the older models.  There I are several other RAID controllers with support for more modern giblets, wG but you might be stretching it a bit to use them with the older shelf. s; For the older shelves, I'd probably stick with the KZPAC...   E Let us know more about the setup of the BA356 because you may end up o/ with the wrong adapter if we just stab at it...a   bobo   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:05:11 +0100a6 From: Chris Townley <news@townleyc.nospam.demon.co.uk>0 Subject: Re: Second SCSI adapter fro PSW/AU - UK8 Message-ID: <h4ddbv4urojtgmd52eedpvcrk6oc83kja7@4ax.com>  - On Mon, 05 May 2003 12:33:51 -0500, Bob Blunth# <robert.blunt@hp.nospam.com> wrote:    >Chris Townley wrote:oI >> I want to add a second  SCSI adapter to my home PSW 433 AU in order to.H >> use a BA356 shelf. This should be fast, rather than ultra, as it is a >> beige shelf.s >> e8 >> Currently have "device type Qlogic ISP1020 SCSI port" >> oG >> Is this the best to get, and if so where can I get one at a sensiblem >> price in the UK?. >>   >> TIAH >Chris, first questions:  Does your BA356 have a personality module and G >what type drives are installed in the shelf?  This can determine what r >controller you need to find.  >jJ >Second question:  What/how do you want to use that shelf?  Do you simply I >want JBOD access?  Depending on the type personality module and drives, SJ >you may be able to get by with a KZPAA-AA (if you want inexpensive).  If J >you want more "modern," look for a DS-KZPBA-CA or KZPDA-AA.  All are PCI E >to Single-ended NON-RAID variants with a single channel.  If you're  G >short on slots, look for a KZPCM-DA which is a combo board with three nC >channels and one Ethernet (be CAREFUL, the KZPCM comes in NON-VMS  G >versions that will NOT work on a VMS system, you need the DS-KZPCM-DA a >specifically).n >uI >If you want RAID, there are also a handful of bus adapters for the PCI, lG >depending on how many channels you want, etc.  A single channel RAID,  I >PCI adapter is the KZPAC-AA and this is one of the older models.  There  J >are several other RAID controllers with support for more modern giblets, H >but you might be stretching it a bit to use them with the older shelf. < >For the older shelves, I'd probably stick with the KZPAC... >tF >Let us know more about the setup of the BA356 because you may end up 0 >with the wrong adapter if we just stab at it... >8 >bob  E I have the beige shelves - ie non Ultra, and have both a narrow and au< fast personality module - the latter is labelled CT60801228.F I have a collection of 4 and 9 Gb Ultra wide drives (blue cases) and I? simply want to add more storage for a single machine - the PSW.aF Although I dont want to spend loads, I would like to go for fast wide,# which I think this lot can support.t  / I had not considered RAID, mostly due to price.w     -- p
 Chris Townley ) chris at townleyc dot demon dot co dot uk.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:55:38 -0400e# From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com>a/ Subject: smtp.config bad-clients relay blockingp+ Message-ID: <3EB6B3AA.E7F59C2E@adldata.com>   F If I specify an entry in bad-clients and there is more than one relay G listed in my smtp headers, will it check only the latest entry or will i it check all of them?h  A This is one example of the relay list in some of my received spame     Return-Path: alanxlvk@lucky.comy  Received: from dsl1 (192.168.1.1) by adlsrv.adldata.org (V5.1-15H, OpenVMS V7.2-1 Alpha); Sun, 4 May 2003 00:20:12 -0500-H  Received: (qmail 19652 invoked from network); 4 May 2003 04:18:07 -0000b  Received: from unknown (HELO lucky.com) (61.129.87.202) by 0 with SMTP; 4 May 2003 04:18:07 -0000z  Received: from rsmail.alkoholic.net ([107.231.138.186]) by group21.345mail.com with QMQP; Sat, 03 May 2003 14:18:25 +0200}  Received: from smtp.mixedthings.net ([16.45.194.118]) by public.micromail.com.au with esmtp; Sat, 03 May 2003 16:14:10 -0100rl  Received: from mxs.perenter.com ([211.16.12.55]) by smtp18.yenddx.com with SMTP; 03 May 2003 15:09:55 +0800n  Received: from unknown (176.181.230.101) by relay-x.misswldrs.com with esmtp; Sat, 03 May 2003 23:05:40 -0500a  Received: from [129.41.194.236] by nntp.pinxodet.net with NNFMP; Sat, 03 May 2003 18:01:25 +1000o  	 thank you  sol gongola  adl data systems inc.  dobbs ferry, ny 10522e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 15:15:29 -0400h$ From: anonymous <anonymous@null.dev>3 Subject: Re: smtp.config bad-clients relay blockingt( Message-ID: <3EB6B84C.4BCAB460@null.dev>   sol gongola wrote: > G > If I specify an entry in bad-clients and there is more than one relaywH > listed in my smtp headers, will it check only the latest entry or will > it check all of them?   N the smtp blocking is done in the smtp negotiation, prior to the RFC822 headers' being sent (they are part of the data).   G So the VMS SMTP server looks at the ip address of the SMTP server it ishN talking to. So if a message is being sent to you from a good SMTP server, thenV it will accept it even if that message may have transited before through a bad server.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:43:27 -0600e) From: "DigiDemon" <digidemon@hotmail.com>mF Subject: Spontaneous rebooting after 7.3-1 upgrade and how to track it7 Message-ID: <pan.2003.05.05.20.43.27.50112@hotmail.com>   
 Hello all!  E Not sure what the deal is, but at 1 am today my ES40 rebooted on it's H own...any way to checkout what the issue may be?  Log files or something like that?  Thanks!    Jameso   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 06:29:10 +0200e4 From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>J Subject: Re: Spontaneous rebooting after 7.3-1 upgrade and how to track it& Message-ID: <3EB73A16.9010803@Free.fr>   DigiDemon wrote: > Hello all! >=20G > Not sure what the deal is, but at 1 am today my ES40 rebooted on it'spJ > own...any way to checkout what the issue may be?  Log files or somethin= g  > like that?  Thanks!f >=20 > James   J Have a look at the operator.log to see last OPCOM messages, then the ACCO= UNTNG=20J file to see which was the last operation executed and recorded there (det= ailed=20J info according to your settings, but enabling image exec is a very bad id= ea=20eJ unless you really need to do so, cause it slows down the system and fills=  up=20B small disks very fast), then the ERRLOG file to check HW failures.   This would be my first action.   D. --=20 ,    -----------------------------------------+ Sector7 - The Application Rehosting Factoryo+ 19 chemin de la Butte 31400 Toulouse Franceq- T=E9l: 33(0)5 6120 1964 Fax: 33(0)5 6154 1928t%          http://www.sector7france.com(+ -------------------------------------------s   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 16:25:53 -0700o! From: frankazev@yahoo.com (Frank)e5 Subject: Weird shutdown and Reboot on OpenVMS 6.2 ???.= Message-ID: <34bffecf.0305051525.1d2e764a@posting.google.com>u   Hello,  B I'm running OpenVMS 6.2 on and VAX 4000-200 machine, but I'm not a VAX/VMS expert.n  E I was noticing some strange behaviour of this system, and today I saw B the system performing a shut down and a reboot without any requestC from anybody (!!!). I know the system is running out of disk space, F but is there any feature of VMS to perform a reboot when it is running out of resources??  F I tried to look on "operator.log" file, but could not see any evidence? of what happened. Is there any other Log file available on VMS?   ) What can make a system reboot like this??t   Thanks for your help frank,   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:54:44 -0500e1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 9 Subject: Re: Weird shutdown and Reboot on OpenVMS 6.2 ???f' Message-ID: <3EB707D4.5C6F167A@fsi.net>i   Frank wrote: >  > Hello, > D > I'm running OpenVMS 6.2 on and VAX 4000-200 machine, but I'm not a > VAX/VMS expert.- > G > I was noticing some strange behaviour of this system, and today I sawmD > the system performing a shut down and a reboot without any requestE > from anybody (!!!). I know the system is running out of disk space,eH > but is there any feature of VMS to perform a reboot when it is running > out of resources?? > H > I tried to look on "operator.log" file, but could not see any evidenceA > of what happened. Is there any other Log file available on VMS?o > + > What can make a system reboot like this??p  F The OPERATOR.LOG file in the SYS$MANAGER: path should contain shutdownH messages, at the very least. Try the version before the current version.C You can specify that using ";-1" at the end of the filespec (or theh explicit version number).   ? Check the batch queues for any job name which appears suspect. K  E Also, try looking at ANALYZE/CRASH_DUMP to see if it was a crash thate( produced a dump and a subsequent reboot.   -- A David J. Dachterae dba DJE SystemsP http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:42:19 -0400k* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>9 Subject: Re: Weird shutdown and Reboot on OpenVMS 6.2 ??? ) Message-ID: <3EB704D0.99292D8D@istop.com>o   Frank wrote:H > I tried to look on "operator.log" file, but could not see any evidenceA > of what happened. Is there any other Log file available on VMS?e  . What would be the last entry in operator.log ?  N Another fairly reliable way is to use ANA/ERROR/SINCE=TODAY which will usually" give you the reason for the crash.  D The normal "command" to crash the system during a normal shutdown is> OPCRASH.EXE  (after all the software has been safely shutdown)   HELP ANA/ERROR   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:23:13 +0100 ) From: Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org>) Subject: Re: X25 Gateway& Message-ID: <3EB6BA21.9000005@iee.org>   Peter Harper wrote: H > It seems the X25 Gateway software is only compatible with the very old4 > DECNET-VAX Extensions around the VMS 5.4- 5.5 era.  5 I used to build this and I managed the last couple oft2 updates on a post V6 system. Mind you I did have a8 V5.4 directory SYS$SHARE around and a bunch of logicals.7 (Actually, there may have been more than just SYS$SHAREh( but I don't remember the exact details).  K > It attempts to use SYS$SHARE:NIS$GLOBALSECTION.DAT which no longer existswI > and has been replaced in DECNET-PLUS with NCL$GLOBALSECTION.DAT. So thes- > compile access violates with this mismatch.t  6 The X25 Gateway software was (IIRC) always WAVE1 (i.e.3 DECnet-VAX Extensions) and would only work on latere5 versions if fooled into thinking nothing had changed. 1 I forget whether we ever supported V6 and beyond,p but I guess probably not.   N > I have rebuilt a VMS system as far back as I could go (OpenVMS 6.1) but alas) > the NIS$GLOBALSECTION file is not theree  3 I don't remember NIS$GLOBALSECTION.DAT but it couldp4 easily have been called that in the Extensions days.3 It won't come with a standard OpenVMS + DECnet-Plus 0 installation. You'll have to install the Gateway4 software or an early version of the DECnis software,4 or maybe DECnet-VAX Extensions (but this really will want V5.4-ish VAX/VMS).   K > Firstly, has anyone else hit this situation and if so I would be gratefula# > for any workarounds or solutions.   ; If you have a spare VAX, the easiest solution is to restore 8 a backup from when it last worked. I assume that this is not an option.  L > Secondly, does anyone still have a copy of DECNET-VAX extensions who couldK > maybe send me the NIS$GLOBALSECTION.DAT file so I could attempt a compilew
 > against it.a  5 Assuming there is such a person, it may be easier fory6 them to compile your script and send you the resulting CMIP.h  M > Thirdly, what was the last version of X25 Gateway software.I am sure I have I > seen 1.1 banded around any was wondering if this may be compatible withe > DECNET-OSI / PLUSa  8 I forget the version number, but probably something like8 1.x-135, although whether that version ever went out for= anything other than a bugfix, I do not know. It did, however,o9 work on DECnet/OSI in the V6.x era (assuming my scribbled  notes are to be believed).   Antoniot   --     --   --------------- - Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org"   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 16:21:52 -04000 From: "Brian Tillman" <Tillman@sparkingwire.com>> Subject: Re: [OpenVMS Alpha] How to get image version in DCL ?$ Message-ID: <3eb6c7e1$1@news.si.com>  ( >I dare say this won't work on an Alpha.   OK, then, here:s  /         .TITLE  READ_HEADER - Read Image Headero         .IDENT  /1-001/i  A ; This subroutine returns the image identification and link time.r ; 	 ; Format:e ;f; ;   status.wlc.v = READ_HEADER( ident.wt.ds [,time.wt.ds] )o ;.
 ; Parameters:o ;d. ;   ident       The image identification text. ; 2 ;   time        The image link time (text format).    ( ;   Date        By              CommentsA ;  4/10/87      D.E. Greenwood  Originally written by John Miano,o 24-June-1986 -D ;                               obtained from April 87 DECUS L&T Sig
 Newsletter)         .LIBRARY        "SYS$LIBRARY:LIB"            $DSCDEFs         $EIHDDEF         $EIHIDEF         $SSDEF   ; Argument pointer offsets  '         $OFFSET 4,POSITIVE,<IDENT,TIME>   0         .PSECT READ_HEADER, RD, NOWRT, EXE, LONGA         .ENTRY READ_HEADER, ^M< R2, R3, R4, R5, R6, R7, R8, R11 >e  J         CMPL    (AP),#1                 ; Make sure that there is at leastG         BGEQ    ENOUGH_ARGUMENTS        ;  one argument to this routinet          MOVL    #SS$_INSFARG, R0         RET    ENOUGH_ARGUMENTS:K  & ; Get the identification of the image.  G         MOVL    @#CTL$GL_IMGHDRBF, R11  ; R11 - Address of image bufferpG         MOVL    (R11), R6               ; R6  - Address of image header   '         MOVL    EIHD$L_IMGIDOFF(R6), R7dB         MOVAB   (R6)[R7], R7            ; R7 - Address of ID Block  A         CVTBL   EIHI$T_IMGID(R7),R0     ; Length of the ID string          MOVL    IDENT(AP), R8l0         MOVC5   R0, <EIHI$T_IMGID+1>(R7), #32, -4                 DSC$W_LENGTH(R8), @DSC$A_POINTER(R8)           CMPL    (AP), #2         BGEQ    RETURN_TIMEo         MOVZBL  #1, R0         RET    RETURN_TIME:  ; ; Get the time the image was linked and convert it to ASCII            $ASCTIM_S -a#                 TIMBUF=@TIME(AP), - *                 TIMADR=EIHI$Q_LINKTIME(R7)           RETs   .END   ------------------------------   Date: 5 May 2003 13:49:34 -0700r. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)> Subject: [Q] On-disk BACKUP save set block size = 33040 bytes?= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0305051249.4ad4cb5e@posting.google.com>f   Example:  & $    BACKUP/IMAGE/COMPARE CDROM: LDA1:C NODEX::SYSTEM 20:45:30 BACKUP    CPU=00:17:29.87 PF=20486 IO=264974h MEM=10114  Comparing file: LDA1:[FT.ARC.LNREPO]FT010830L.BCK;16  Saveset volume:0, saveset block:0 (33040 byte blocks)  A Why does it say 33040-byte blocks? Disk save sets have 32256-bytetF blocks. Whence the 33040 figure? And why is it always saveset block 0?   Thanks.r   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldmano   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.249 ************************