1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 15 May 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 267       Contents:P Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting SP Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting SP Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting SP Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting SP Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting S Re: Backup question  Re: Backup question ; Re: BLASTed directory locks, timing windows & endless loops ' Re: creating licenses for my own demos? ' Re: creating licenses for my own demos? ' Re: creating licenses for my own demos? , Re: DEC-C toupper() of accented characters ?, Re: DEC-C toupper() of accented characters ? Re: DECNET node deletion FA: VAX Microfiche Re: fetch_http problem Re: fetch_http problem Re: fetch_http problem5 Re: how to use smg$create_menu in vax macro language? , Re: howto get a parameter (p1) to an ftp job Hyperthreading to save itanium?  INIT/SHADOW  Re: INIT/SHADOW  Re: INIT/SHADOW  Re: INIT/SHADOW  Re: Java "Unknown host" problem . Re: Looking up DECnet addresses from Node name. Re: Looking up DECnet addresses from Node name MAIL$ routines and User SS Re: next VMS versions  Re: next VMS versions = Re: OpenVMS Pearl - OpenVMS Article on InTech Brazil Magazine  Re: OpenVMS Pearl Wed May 14K Re: OpenVMS support for Additional Hardware on hp's new AlphaServer Systems  Re: Spamfilter for OpenVMS? ! Re: VMS Admins with too much time ! Re: VMS Admins with too much time ! Re: VMS Admins with too much time ! Re: VMS Admins with too much time ! Re: VMS Admins with too much time ! Re: VMS Admins with too much time   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:47:48 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>Y Subject: Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting S @ Message-ID: <20030514214748.35478.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com>  ? Gartner.! Gartner ! I fell sick when I read/listen this name !     Reg  FC  6 --- Vasu Kulkarni <vasukulkarni@rediffmail.com> wrote: > . > > CIOs don't read books! They read magazines > >  >   > And also IDG + Gartner Reports >  >      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:49:32 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>Y Subject: Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting S @ Message-ID: <20030514214932.96488.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com>  2 So we need an advertisment at Playboy Magazines !  What do u think about ?    Regards    FC  : --- "Robert A.M. van Lopik" <lopik@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > = > "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message < > news:20030513233737.11405.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com.... > > Why not write  a "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" ? > >  > > Regards  > >  > > FC > , > CIOs don't read books! They read magazines >  > rvl  >  >  >  >      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:40:32 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>Y Subject: Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting S @ Message-ID: <20030514214032.20264.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com>   John  8 You will have my vote too, but I think if all the people9 here in this list can write a chapter to the handbook, it 9 would be sponsored by OpenVMS.org ! It must become strong = for us... a handbook with preface of Terry "HP" Shannon would 8 be nice ! He knows how to write an article.  I know make suggestions ! ;-)    Regards    FC  & --- John Smith <a@nonymous.com> wrote: > Thanks for the vote. > H > Now if only HP could be made to listen....seems to me that they need aF > real head of VMS marketing..one who isn't afraid to stand toe-to-toeC > with carly/BOD and duke it out when required. That probably means G > somebody who comes in on contract who doesn't particularly care about H > whether they get shown the door but also one who feels The Force. ShowH > me a number with the right number of significant digits and I might be
 > interested.  >  >  > ; > "David D Miller" <ddmiller@raytheon.com> wrote in message B > news:OF42A6B885.67DCB0AE-ON07256D26.004E7FCE@rsc.raytheon.com...E > > If any of you have writing aspirations, I suggest you contact Pam 	 > Chester H > > (P.Chester@elsevier.com) at Digital Press and talk it over with her.3 > > John's suggestion looks like a good one to  me.  > > 	 > > dave.  > > C > > ----- Forwarded by David D Miller/RWS/Raytheon/US on 05/14/2003 
 > 07:17 AM	 > > -----  > > & > >                       "John Smith"6 > >                       <a@nonymous.com>         To: > Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 6 > >                                                cc:E > >                       05/14/2003 06:41         Subject: Re: "CIOs ) > OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book G > >                       AM                       from Digital Press - ' > Getting Started with OpenVMS) Getting H > >                       Please respond           Started with OpenVMS) > Getting Started with OpenVMS) ) > >                       to "John Smith"  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > > @ > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message% > > news:3EC1AE20.E93235BA@fsi.net...  > > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > > > 
 > > > > David  > > > > ! > > > > Lack of inspiration ;-)))  > > > > ? > > > > And my english is not perfect yet ! I am too $lazy$  to 7 > > > > return to the British Council english classes ! > > > > > There are guys with more talent here....like you ! ;-) > > > > Regards  > > > > 
 > > > > FC > > > > > > > > > --- "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote: > > > > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > > > > > 6 > > > > > > Why not write  a "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" ?	 > > > > >  > > > > > What's stopping you? > > > / > > > Well, here's a little something to start.  > > > G > > > ...and remember: there's no law that says you can't write in your  > > own , > > > language and have it translated later. > > > E > > > I might even flesh this out and post it as a web page to start,  > then4 > > > perhaps build it up into a formal publication. > > >  > > > " > > > Executive Summary of OpenVMS > > > D > > > OpenVMS is a powerful, highly secure computer operating system > that > > isD > > > time-proven and trusted. At one time an early form of OpenVMS, > thenA > > > known as VAX/VMS was the major mainstay of the minicomputer 	 > market.  > > Now,H > > > OpenVMS is the mainstay of the high-availability, high-scalability > > > mid-frame market.  > > > H > > > Feature-rich, ANSI standards compliant, well documented and easilyD > > > programmed, OpenVMS remains the operating system of choice forH > > > businesses where uptime and security are an absolute must, such asH > > > back-end database servers in the healthcare and financial exchange > > and  > > > service industries.  > > > H > > > The intrinsic security and reliability of OpenVMS produce paybacks > > inH > > > the form of elimination of downtime due to virus attacks and their0 > > > associated file and filesystem corruption. > > > A > > > Running on 64-bit hardware platforms, OpenVMS provides high  > > scalability > > > > for very large databases as well as image processing and > scientificG > > > computing needs. From desktop workstations to one-unit rack-mount F > > > servers to high-availability clusters with many tens of nodes in > > eachE > > > cluster, one OpenVMS operating system serves all these needs at  > all 0 > > > scales from the desktop to the datacenter. > > >  > > > E > > > That's just a start, of course. Many other folks here have said  > muchE > > > more much better than I can, but I'll just use my own words and  > let  > > the - > > > community suggest how to say it better.  > >  > > C > > You probably don't have to do the work yourself. There are many  > books C > > published each year which are often referred to as 'handbooks'.  > > @ > > These 'handbooks' are usually many chapters long and are theF > > compilation of the work of many people. Each chapter is written by > one ? > > or more specialists in the topic of the individual chapter.  > Real-life B > > examples are often included (sometimes with names redacted forH > > privacy, sometimes disclosed). There is a small editorial team which@ > > solicits contributions of material to the handbook, suggestsF > > revisions/additions/deletions in the material of each chapter, and: > > that provides a preamble to the 'handbook' as a whole. > > C > > So to take this one step further, a suggested organization of a D > > 'handbook' aimed at the executives at any major organization, be > they8 > > CEO/COO/CIO/CTO might be the following (feel free to > > add/delete/rename):  > >  > > - > > "Reliable Computing for the 21st Century" & > >          "The Hidden Secret of HP" > >  > > Forward  > > + > > Chapter Titles (in no particular order)  > >  > > % > >     How Come I Never Heard of It?  > >         - good question 4 > >         - who is using it and what's it used for > >             - NSA  > >             - CGHQ! > >             - stock exchanges  > >             - health care $ > >             - chip manufacturing > >             - telecom & > >             - general purpose apps > >  > >  > >     Investment Protection ! > >         - mixed mode clusters 1 > >         - hardware & operating system support  > >  > >  > >     Scalability 1 > >         - clusters and the differences (Nic?)  > >  > > & > >     Disaster Recovery with OpenVMS > >         - Terrorism and War 1 > >             -operating in an NBCW environment 0 > >              (nuclear, biological, chemical) > >         - natural disasters  > >             - earthquake > >             - hurricane  > >             - tornado  > >             - ice storms$ > >         - coping with evacuation > >         - remote operation > >  > > 6 > >     What About All Those Free Unix/Linux programs? > >         - DOE-CII  > >         - unix portability > >  > > " > >     Cost-Effective DevelopmentB > >         - discussion of developer tools and debugging features > >  > > 9 > >     What Packages Run on This Great Operating System? : > >         - another good question, and thanks for asking > >  > > 0 > >     Why Shouldn't We Use Unix/Linux/Windows?- > >         - the biggest chapter in the book # > >         - debacles in switching G > >         - can't get there from here in finite time at a finite cost 
 > > issues > >  > > * > >     What's The Cost to My Bottom Line?" > >         - financial discussion > >         - licenses > >         - support # > >         - lights-out operations 1 > >         - how many system managers do I need?  > >  > > + > >         Where Do I Get Honest Opinions?  > >         - current users  > >         - c.o.v. > >         - user events ( > >         - 1-800-carlyluvsVMS (as if) > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  >  >      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:42:01 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>Y Subject: Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting S @ Message-ID: <20030514214201.51258.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com>  7 I suggest Ken Farmer and T. Shannon to develop it under ( OpenVMS.org ! They are the right guys !    Regards    FC  & --- Jim Agnew <jpagnew@vcu.edu> wrote:H > hhmm... why not put it up on sourceforge and we all put our hands intoI > it.  or, you can be the editor, and we can contribute, and you can pick  > and choose...  > C > here's my blurb... Though this would be as a testimonial, really,  > instead of an # > handbook covering many systems...  > J > Our VAX/VMS system has run flawlessly monitoring our Intensive Care UnitH > at MCV hospitals since 1985.  Our system has survived 3 generations ofI > ICU monitors, 3 cpu upgrades, a few os version upgrades, a/c equiptment 6 > leaking on the machine (we can't move it... DRAT..). > B > We have no need to scandisk or diskfix the drives, our machine aH > microvax 3900 has analog inputs, digital inputs, osu webserver, ingresJ > database, Perl, FORTRAN, C, COBOL, GNU utilities coming when I feel likeD > I want it enough, vi, whatever.  We hold the campus uptime recordsI > continously, and this system just runs it's little heart out.  the main H > box is 14 years old, and still going. It's puny compared to today, but( > for it's job of watching, it's plenty. >  > "David J. Dachtera" wrote: > >  > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > >  > > > David  > > >  > > > Lack of inspiration ;-)))  > > > = > > > And my english is not perfect yet ! I am too $lazy$  to 5 > > > return to the British Council english classes ! < > > > There are guys with more talent here....like you ! ;-)
 > > > Regards  > > >  > > > FC > > > < > > > --- "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote: > > > > Fabio Cardoso wrote:	 > > > > > 4 > > > > > Why not write  a "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" ? > > > >  > > > > What's stopping you? > > - > > Well, here's a little something to start.  > > I > > ...and remember: there's no law that says you can't write in your own * > > language and have it translated later. > > H > > I might even flesh this out and post it as a web page to start, then2 > > perhaps build it up into a formal publication. > >   > > Executive Summary of OpenVMS > > J > > OpenVMS is a powerful, highly secure computer operating system that isG > > time-proven and trusted. At one time an early form of OpenVMS, then L > > known as VAX/VMS was the major mainstay of the minicomputer market. Now,F > > OpenVMS is the mainstay of the high-availability, high-scalability > > mid-frame market.  > > F > > Feature-rich, ANSI standards compliant, well documented and easilyB > > programmed, OpenVMS remains the operating system of choice forF > > businesses where uptime and security are an absolute must, such asJ > > back-end database servers in the healthcare and financial exchange and > > service industries.  > > I > > The intrinsic security and reliability of OpenVMS produce paybacks in F > > the form of elimination of downtime due to virus attacks and their. > > associated file and filesystem corruption. > > K > > Running on 64-bit hardware platforms, OpenVMS provides high scalability G > > for very large databases as well as image processing and scientific E > > computing needs. From desktop workstations to one-unit rack-mount I > > servers to high-availability clusters with many tens of nodes in each G > > cluster, one OpenVMS operating system serves all these needs at all . > > scales from the desktop to the datacenter. > > H > > That's just a start, of course. Many other folks here have said muchK > > more much better than I can, but I'll just use my own words and let the + > > community suggest how to say it better.  > >  > > -- > > David J. Dachtera  > > dba DJE Systems  > > http://www.djesys.com/ > > , > > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:# > > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  >  > --  H > "4,000 years ago I made a mistake."  Elrond Half-Elven, in "Fellowship > of the Ring"     =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:44:16 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>Y Subject: Re: "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" was (Re: Another Book from Digital Press - Getting S @ Message-ID: <20030514214416.95695.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com>  = As I work for a State Company they avoid to make case studies > because they cannot commit with one  specific reseller, so the, cases here even goods cannot be published !    Regards    FC  & --- John Smith <a@nonymous.com> wrote: > > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message# > news:3EC1AE20.E93235BA@fsi.net...  > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > >  > > > David  > > >  > > > Lack of inspiration ;-)))  > > > = > > > And my english is not perfect yet ! I am too $lazy$  to 5 > > > return to the British Council english classes ! < > > > There are guys with more talent here....like you ! ;-)
 > > > Regards  > > >  > > > FC > > > < > > > --- "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote: > > > > Fabio Cardoso wrote:	 > > > > > 4 > > > > > Why not write  a "CIOs OpenVMS Handbook" ? > > > >  > > > > What's stopping you? > > - > > Well, here's a little something to start.  > > E > > ...and remember: there's no law that says you can't write in your  > own * > > language and have it translated later. > > H > > I might even flesh this out and post it as a web page to start, then2 > > perhaps build it up into a formal publication. > >  > >   > > Executive Summary of OpenVMS > > G > > OpenVMS is a powerful, highly secure computer operating system that  > isG > > time-proven and trusted. At one time an early form of OpenVMS, then G > > known as VAX/VMS was the major mainstay of the minicomputer market.  > Now,F > > OpenVMS is the mainstay of the high-availability, high-scalability > > mid-frame market.  > > F > > Feature-rich, ANSI standards compliant, well documented and easilyB > > programmed, OpenVMS remains the operating system of choice forF > > businesses where uptime and security are an absolute must, such asF > > back-end database servers in the healthcare and financial exchange > and  > > service industries.  > > F > > The intrinsic security and reliability of OpenVMS produce paybacks > inF > > the form of elimination of downtime due to virus attacks and their. > > associated file and filesystem corruption. > > ? > > Running on 64-bit hardware platforms, OpenVMS provides high 
 > scalability G > > for very large databases as well as image processing and scientific E > > computing needs. From desktop workstations to one-unit rack-mount D > > servers to high-availability clusters with many tens of nodes in > eachG > > cluster, one OpenVMS operating system serves all these needs at all . > > scales from the desktop to the datacenter. > >  > > H > > That's just a start, of course. Many other folks here have said muchG > > more much better than I can, but I'll just use my own words and let  > the + > > community suggest how to say it better.  >  > G > You probably don't have to do the work yourself. There are many books A > published each year which are often referred to as 'handbooks'.  > > > These 'handbooks' are usually many chapters long and are theH > compilation of the work of many people. Each chapter is written by oneG > or more specialists in the topic of the individual chapter. Real-life @ > examples are often included (sometimes with names redacted forF > privacy, sometimes disclosed). There is a small editorial team which> > solicits contributions of material to the handbook, suggestsD > revisions/additions/deletions in the material of each chapter, and8 > that provides a preamble to the 'handbook' as a whole. > A > So to take this one step further, a suggested organization of a G > 'handbook' aimed at the executives at any major organization, be they 6 > CEO/COO/CIO/CTO might be the following (feel free to > add/delete/rename):  >  > + > "Reliable Computing for the 21st Century" $ >          "The Hidden Secret of HP" > 	 > Forward  > ) > Chapter Titles (in no particular order)  >  > # >     How Come I Never Heard of It?  >         - good question 2 >         - who is using it and what's it used for >             - NSA  >             - CGHQ >             - stock exchanges  >             - health care " >             - chip manufacturing >             - telecom $ >             - general purpose apps >  >  >     Investment Protection  >         - mixed mode clusters / >         - hardware & operating system support  >  >  >     Scalability / >         - clusters and the differences (Nic?)  >  > $ >     Disaster Recovery with OpenVMS >         - Terrorism and War / >             -operating in an NBCW environment . >              (nuclear, biological, chemical) >         - natural disasters  >             - earthquake >             - hurricane  >             - tornado  >             - ice storms" >         - coping with evacuation >         - remote operation >  > 4 >     What About All Those Free Unix/Linux programs? >         - DOE-CII  >         - unix portability >  >   >     Cost-Effective Development@ >         - discussion of developer tools and debugging features >  > 7 >     What Packages Run on This Great Operating System? 8 >         - another good question, and thanks for asking >  > . >     Why Shouldn't We Use Unix/Linux/Windows?+ >         - the biggest chapter in the book ! >         - debacles in switching E >         - can't get there from here in finite time at a finite cost  > issues >  > ( >     What's The Cost to My Bottom Line?  >         - financial discussion >         - licenses >         - support ! >         - lights-out operations / >         - how many system managers do I need?  >  > ) >         Where Do I Get Honest Opinions?  >         - current users  >         - c.o.v. >         - user events & >         - 1-800-carlyluvsVMS (as if) >  >      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:31:34 -0400 0 From: "Brian Tillman" <Tillman@sparkingwire.com> Subject: Re: Backup question$ Message-ID: <3ec28b88$1@news.si.com>   >include /save    K Completely unnecessary with a tape device, as has already been pointed out.  --  I Brian Tillman         Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com 5 Smiths Aerospace  Addresses modified to prevent SPAM. D 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS 1B3 Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:04:05 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> Subject: Re: Backup question2 Message-ID: <b9uejt$54t$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Karl Rohwedder wrote:  > A Bonaveidogo schrieb: >  >> ***********************I >> Your mail has been scanned by Trend InterScan Message Scanning Suite.  1 >> There were no viruses detected in this e-mail.  >> ***********-*********** >> >> >> include /save >> -----Original Message----- ( >> From: Dirk Munk [mailto:munk@home.nl]' >> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 8:25 AM  >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com >> Subject: Backup question  >> >>2 >> I made two image backups to one tape like this: >>% >> backup/image dka0: mka500:dka0.bck ) >> backup/image dka200: mka500:dka200.bck  >>$ >> Both backup sets are on the tape.4 >> I was able to verify that with dir MKA400: /size. >>@ >> Now I want to extract some files from the dka200.bck saveset.- >> But somehow I can't get backup to do that.  >> >> I tried:  >>6 >> backup mka500:dka200.bck /select= etc. but no luck. >>+ >> I get the response dka200.bck not found.  >>" >> Can somone tell me what to do ? >>
 >> Thanks....  >>H > Did you rewind the tape before trying the restore (set magtape MKA500  > /rewind)?  > J Yes I did. The problem is that Backup can not find the file with the name L dka200.bck, although the file is there. Very strange...... But I solved the ( problem as I wrote in a earlier message.   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:49:00 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> D Subject: Re: BLASTed directory locks, timing windows & endless loops1 Message-ID: <b9u32r$9v$1@hercules.btinternet.com>    Hi Jim,   . This sounds exactly like what I'm looking for!  = But who's McCoy when he's at home and what's his book called?   L Is there a macro def file for the 16 bytes? Or can someone tell me the Value
 Block format?   6 (And for that matter, WHAT new file system? Spirolog?)   Cheers Richard Maher.   E PS. Might not be able to get back to you for a while but please reply   anyway. (God bless Mark Warner!)  4 Jim Brankin <jbrankin@ntlworld.com> wrote in message7 news:863f19d6.0305140014.43a4377d@posting.google.com... A > Use the FC_DATASEQ field in the serialisation lock value block.  > H > This field is incremented every time the directory is changed.See page > 324 of McCoy's book. > $ > The logic would be something like: >  > start:- > Take the serialisation lock and get the LVB  > If DATASEQ has changed >   drop the lock  >   do the $search > else >   wait for the blast >   drop the lock  >   loop back to the start > endif  >  > F > Of course this is using unpublished interfaces which could change at@ > any time. And will change if they ever get the new file system
 > working. >  > - Jim    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:10:03 GMT ( From: Mark Schafer <mark.schafer@hp.com>0 Subject: Re: creating licenses for my own demos?0 Message-ID: <fwwwa.826$H52.129@news.cpqcorp.net>  G Please go to the DSPP portal, login and search for PAKGEN.  You should  D get a page with 2 documents.  The first one is a description of the G service and process for requesting a PAK with your custom TOKEN string.   = The second is a system service API for SYS$GRANT_LICENSE and   SYS$RELEASE_LICENSE.  G This is not the retired PAKGEN software product and there is no charge   for DSPP company members.    Michael Rice wrote: ( > On 5/6/2003 12:33 AM, Mark Buda wrote: > 1 >> "Beyonder" <beyonder@vrx.net> wrote in message 5 >> news:5ot3bvcs5drpipbsuvhipu5c1ne2rtbn5e@4ax.com...  >>E >> Once you join the DSPP program, you can contact them and ask about J >> getting a PAKGEN PAK.  You will need to register your producer text, soD >> that no one else can use your producer to use your products in an >> illicit manner. >>K >> I do not know if the non-company registrant is allowed to get PAKGEN PAK ; >> usage or not, but will ask the DSPP office and find out.  >>J >> The below text is from a pre-HP document, but gives you an idea of what >> is involved...  >> >> and a little more...  >> >  > <snip> > K > Well, my hopes for generating PAKs are beginning to dim.  I went through  G > the process of signing up as a DSPP company member and inquired with  & > DSPP about getting the PAKGEN PAK... > F > The first response I got sent me to the BCSG equipment group.  They H > responded that the PAKGEN product had been retired and directed me to K > some 3rd party to purchase a license.  After calling this morning, I was  E > directed to someone else inside HP.  This person sent me an e-mail  E > informing me that the PAKGEN PAK is only available to DSPP members  3 > through a subscription service for $495 per year.  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:50:30 -0500 ( From: Michael Rice <marice@whiteice.com>0 Subject: Re: creating licenses for my own demos?/ Message-ID: <vc5licddsjlue7@corp.supernews.com>    My hopes are revived...   G I've read both docs and it all looks simple enough.  However, just one  F comment that the "DEC VMS/LMF System Services Reference Manual" could H use some minor updates (it only references VAX and does not include C++ $ in the list of supported languages).   Thanks for your help.  Michael   ) On 5/14/2003 2:10 PM, Mark Schafer wrote: I > Please go to the DSPP portal, login and search for PAKGEN.  You should  F > get a page with 2 documents.  The first one is a description of the I > service and process for requesting a PAK with your custom TOKEN string.  > ? > The second is a system service API for SYS$GRANT_LICENSE and   > SYS$RELEASE_LICENSE. > I > This is not the retired PAKGEN software product and there is no charge   > for DSPP company members.  >  > Michael Rice wrote:  > ) >> On 5/6/2003 12:33 AM, Mark Buda wrote:  >>2 >>> "Beyonder" <beyonder@vrx.net> wrote in message6 >>> news:5ot3bvcs5drpipbsuvhipu5c1ne2rtbn5e@4ax.com... >>> F >>> Once you join the DSPP program, you can contact them and ask aboutK >>> getting a PAKGEN PAK.  You will need to register your producer text, so E >>> that no one else can use your producer to use your products in an  >>> illicit manner.  >>> L >>> I do not know if the non-company registrant is allowed to get PAKGEN PAK< >>> usage or not, but will ask the DSPP office and find out. >>> K >>> The below text is from a pre-HP document, but gives you an idea of what  >>> is involved... >>>  >>> and a little more... >>>  >>	 >> <snip>  >>D >> Well, my hopes for generating PAKs are beginning to dim.  I went B >> through the process of signing up as a DSPP company member and 5 >> inquired with DSPP about getting the PAKGEN PAK...  >>G >> The first response I got sent me to the BCSG equipment group.  They  I >> responded that the PAKGEN product had been retired and directed me to  H >> some 3rd party to purchase a license.  After calling this morning, I J >> was directed to someone else inside HP.  This person sent me an e-mail F >> informing me that the PAKGEN PAK is only available to DSPP members 4 >> through a subscription service for $495 per year. >> >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 20:31:58 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG0 Subject: Re: creating licenses for my own demos?0 Message-ID: <00A1FDBE.CD9438D6@SendSpamHere.ORG>  [ In article <fwwwa.826$H52.129@news.cpqcorp.net>, Mark Schafer <mark.schafer@hp.com> writes: H >Please go to the DSPP portal, login and search for PAKGEN.  You should E >get a page with 2 documents.  The first one is a description of the  H >service and process for requesting a PAK with your custom TOKEN string.  H Do you think that your employer will ever make so that VMS users can do G what you've described with the VMS browsers available to us (Netscape &  Mozilla)?   NOT!   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:56:06 +1000 1 From: Paddy O'Brien <paddy.o'brien@tg.nsw.gov.au> 5 Subject: Re: DEC-C toupper() of accented characters ? , Message-ID: <3EC2C986.9060704@tg.nsw.gov.au>   Bill Gunshannon wrote:* > In article <3EC2093F.4B40124@istop.com>,/ > 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes:  > W >>In both TPU and ALL-IN-1/WPS, when I uppercase text, all text is properly uppercased.  >>Y >>But in a DEC-C program, if I try to uppercase an accented character, it says lowercase.  >> >>N >>Will toupper() fail this way on all platforms, (unix etc), or is this just a$ >>VMS (or even VAX) specific issue ? >>I >>Does this mean I need to write my own toupper macro to support accented  >>characters ? >  > I > Not sure what "accented characters" are, but every version of toupper() L > I have ever had the chance to look at merely converts the ASCII charactersI > with the ordinal values of 97-122 to the corresponding ASCII characters H > with the ordinal values of 65-90. I am sure your "accented characters"I > are not a part of the ASCII characterset and that is why they don't get I > converted by C.  Obviously, editors and word processors use a much more  > complex algorithm. >  > bill >  Interesting question.   G Some while ago, I asked the question on the F90 mailing list as to why  E there was no intrinsic in Fortran to do the same as toupper(), since GG every man, his dog, cat or mouse re-invents the wheel here for his own P library.  E The main responses were from X3J3 committee members, who like to dot eF "i"s and cross "t"s, who said that such suggestions had been rejected E because of the complexity of rules from languages other than English.B  D My own wheel merely does the conversion as Bill described.  I would I expect that any language that has such an intrinsic would would also use rH this behaviour whilst the ASCII character set is still predominate. [In A fact, Fortran 90/95 accepts the current predominance of ASCII by fE duplicating certain character functions to ensure the ASCII ordering e- even on machines using other character sets.]   B In all the European originated languages, probably 90+ percent of @ touppering would follow the same ASCII conversion.  For the few I exceptions, usually around use of accents, I would not see a local wheel AF as being amiss -- run that first on your character variables and then  the provided toupper.e   Regards, Paddy      G ***********************************************************************L  C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged > and confidential information intended only for the use of the B addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise B the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, 7 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.t  A If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid wA immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the -= individual sender except where the sender expressly and with 0C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses:> virus scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses contained in any attachment.  < Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now$ firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"  G ***********************************************************************c   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:12:27 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>5 Subject: Re: DEC-C toupper() of accented characters ?r) Message-ID: <3EC29511.9CBBB808@istop.com>o   Richard Brodie wrote:aC > Now I have. The following program will convert lower to uppercase_F > French, or not, depending on whether you have the right locale files > installed.   > unsigned char agrave = 224;-# > printf ("%c\n", toupper(agrave));1! > if (setlocale(LC_ALL, "fr_FR"))a& >    printf ("%c\n", toupper(agrave));  I Unfortunatly, VMS doesn't come with the fr_FR locale by default. Only thetL EN_US_ISO8859-1 locale, and that one doesn't map uppercase characters of theD ones above 127. (or the toupper on VAX doesn't make use of locales).  L If something isn't available on all current VMS hosts, you can't really make
 use of it.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 22:50:17 GMT06 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)! Subject: Re: DECNET node deletiono2 Message-ID: <JKzwa.8212$_b1.111848@news.chello.at>  g In article <b865d7eb.0305080334.7a5529ee@posting.google.com>, bob.dalby@spicers.net (Bob Dalby) writes:E >I am having trouble ammending a node - I appear to have 2 nodes that E >are showing the same ethernet address and i can't seem to get out of_ >the situation:_  E Are they really having the same address or does only a registry (like/( LOCAL or DECdns) saying that they have ?  K You might know that the SYSGEN parameter SCSSYSTEMID and the DECnet address H are related (SCSSYSTEMID = area * 1024 + node) and the DECnet address is$ also entered in an NCL startup file.  D >I thought i could simply go into DECNET_register.exe and deregisterF >the nodes and then reregister  however although this exe allows me toG >put in new nodes it does not remove or ammend the ncl database detailsr; >when i derigeter (Even though it states that deregister isoG >successful). Is this a bug? Is there an NCL del node command that i amr
 >not aware of   & It depends on what you want to change.L DECNET_REGISTER.EXE is for changing registry (DECdns and LOCAL:) information7 (BIND/DNS for Domain: is another method for a registry) 0 Modifying/Clearing Caches is also not to forget.F But for the real used address you have to modify config/startup (meansM MODPARAMS.DAT/AUTOGEN.COM/SYSGEN.EXE and SYS$STARTUP:NET$ROUTING_STARTUP.NCL)o   >NCL>sho node x25per >u >Node x25per% >at 2003-05-08-13:26:59.110+01:00Iinfo >e >Identifiers >w2 >    Name                              = 0:.X25PER( >    Address                           =	 >       {  >          ( >          [ DNA_CMIP-MICE ] ,3 >          [ DNA_SessionControlV3 , number = 19 ] ,0 >          [ DNA_NSP ] ,< >          [ DNA_OSInetwork , 49::00-01:AA-00-04-00-FA-04:20 >(LOCAL:.X25SAW) ]   NCL> SHOW NODE xxxxv  J does a CMIP request over the network to the remote node named xxx (x25per)J and run the information gathering there. So, if your registry used by yourJ local machine has two nodes with the same address listed you end up askingG every time this same node with all requests. So, you might not have twonN different nodes with the same address but only one registry with this problem.J Better go to this remote nodes and use the NCL command there locally to be sure !   -- C Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERa% Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:05:40 -0400t3 From: "Homer J. Simpson" <hsimpson@burnsenergy.com>  Subject: FA: VAX Microfiche 8 Message-ID: <CRzwa.3044$xa4.627@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>   11/780 & 11/750 K http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3519&item=2729693510 A (the hardcopy of the 780 fiche was the classic black binder set!)t     RL01/02, RK05/06/07 K http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3519&item=2729701185t   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:04:27 -0400t* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: fetch_http problem ) Message-ID: <3EC28527.F7B126D2@istop.com>o   Chris Sharman wrote:E > True - in fact most of them were local, so I searched google for ana) > 'outside' csv to try before posting ...   0 The type of contents should not matter one bit.   L Have you considered using TCPTRACE to see what your "real" browser sends out? as http request and compare it with what fetch_http sends out ?h   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:00:21 -0400t* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: fetch_http problem ) Message-ID: <3EC28431.DC01A571@istop.com>v   Chris Sharman wrote: > 7 > One of our business partners emails us links to csvs.rB > The link works fine in ie & mozilla, but fetch_http returns 404. >  > $ fetch_http -c > "http://somethg.somewhere.co.uk/autorep/Integrated/CCA01/2003-05-13-A8418-S0406-Ablah-Rblah.csv"-  >   test.csv > HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found > Connection: Close  > Content-Type: text/html- > Content-Length: 77$ > Server: SpecSoft Web Server v2.16i  : I can't resolve the "somethg.somewhere.co.uk" host :-( :-(  E Is it possible that the remote web server was instructed not to servemB documents is there is no User-Agent specifed in the HTTP request ?  N Have you considered using Kermit to get the stuff ? You might be able to fully) fake whatever headers your browser sends.y  ( SET TERMINAL CHARACTER-SET LATIN1 LATIN1 SET BUFFER 20000 20000 SET NETWORK TCPf LOG SESSION mysession.logc ;a if fail goto endloop# SET HOST somethg.somewhere.co.uk:80  if failure end 1 cannot connecta SET TERMINAL ECHO ON ; W OUTPUT GET /autorep/Integrated/CCA01/2003-05-13-A8418-S0406-Ablah-Rblah.csv HTTP/1.0\13iD OUTPUT Referer: http://somethg.somewhere.co.uk/autorep/index.html\13  OUTPUT Connection: Keep-Alive\135 OUTPUT User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01(Macintosh; I; PPC)\13o( OUTPUT Host: somethng,somewhere.co.uk\13J OUTPUT Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, */*\13' OUTPUT Accept-Language: en-GB, fr-CA\13 : ;OUTPUT Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded\13( ;OUTPUT Content-length: \Flength(\%a)\13
 OUTPUT \137 ;OUTPUT \%areport=MAN200R&name=ab&feature=ALL&region=WA  CONNECTo ;n :endloop HANGUP EXIT  N Now, instead of CONNECT, you could use a INPUT command to wait for the link to5 close. But Connect lets you see it on screen as well.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 22:49:07 GMTlL From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr") Subject: Re: fetch_http problem 6 Message-ID: <00A1FDB8.D10282E5@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  ^ In article <3EC236C4.2030206@sorry.nospam>, Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes:+ >Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr wrote:lj >> In article <b9t631$j94$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes: >> / >>>Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote: >>>h >>>>Proxy server ?  >>>>I use the following syntax : >>>>8 >>>>$ FETCH_HTTP <URL> <LOCAL-FILE> -b -p <PROXY_SERVER> >>>s >>>No, don't use proxy server.* >>>As I say, it works fine for other urls. >> i >> nN >> It might be doing some kind of mapping based on the user agent, which failsL >> if fetch_http doesn't supply the right "fake" header.  You might try wgetL >> (which has a VMS port maintained by a poster to this newsgroup); I use itJ >> extensively and it works very well for me.  You can tell wget to supply >> a working user-agent header.t > 7 >Fetched & build wget (from antinode.org) - looks good. G >Same problem, although I've faithfully copied my browser's User-Agent h >string.   Oh well, just an idea.   > C >Is there a way to inspect the dialog of mozilla, ie, or anything ?   K Don't know what your TCPIP product is.  In Multinet, you can use TCPDUMP to K watch traffic to/from particular IP addresses, so if you run Mozilla on VMSuJ you set up TCPDUMP and watch the dialogue.  I'm sure TCP/IP Services has a, similar feature but I don't know what it is.  H >Interestingly, Opera appears to only read the page when spoofing as IE M >or Mozilla, not as itself, so this would appear to be a partial explanation.a   Interesting.   -- Alani   --  O ===============================================================================o0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056hM  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 01:43:43 +0200 % From: "Jeams ZHI" <chnzw@hotmail.com>n> Subject: Re: how to use smg$create_menu in vax macro language?3 Message-ID: <b9ukbg$59f$1@news-reader13.wanadoo.fr>/  L "Safir" <axica_nopub@yahoo.com> ??????:Owqwa.797$nN1.648@news.cpqcorp.net...? > Example-MACRO: Using SMG$CREATE_MENU and SMG$SELECT_FROM_MENUf+ > STARS Unique Id: 0094113A-01537880-1C009F D > Copyright (c) Digital Equipment Corporation 1989, 1990. All rights reserved >iB > COMPONENT:  MACRO                                   OP/SYS:  VMS >s- > SOURCE:     Digital Customer Support Center  >a > VERSION INFORMATION: > E >      Information Applies To:  VMS, Versions 4.n, 5.0, 5.0-1, 5.0-2,sF >                                             5.1, 5.1-B, 5.1-1, 5.1-2E >                                             5.2, 5.2-1, 5.3, 5.3-1, F >                                             5.3-2, 5.4, 5.4-1, 5.4-2 >t >M > OVERVIEW:e >nB > The following MACRO program demonstrates how to call the utilityF > routines 'SMG$CREATE_MENU' and 'SMG$SELECT_FROM_MENU'.  This programC > generates the same output as the PASCAL example presented on page-G > SMG-333 of the "VMS RTL Screen Management (SMG$) Manual", April 1988.m >a > 
 > CAUTION: >eD > This sample program has been tested using VAX MACRO on VMS V5.4-1.? > However, we cannot guarantee its effectiveness because of the4G > possibility of error in transmitting or implementing it.  It is meanthC > to be used as a template for writing your own program, and it may . > require modification for use on your system. >  >t > EXAMPLE PROGRAM: >uI >         .title  create_menu Macro Example of a Create/Select Menu calls  > G > ;       This program remains active until the user issues a Control-Z  > ;       character. > ;h# >         .macro  check_status, ?l1  >         blbs    r0, l1 >         pushl   r0  >         calls   #1, g^lib$stop > l1:     .endm   check_status > ;t3 > ;       Get Library Macros/Constant Declarations.  > ;mB >         $dscdef                         ; Descriptor Definitions< >         $smgdef                         ; SMG Definitions. >( > String_Size = 9  > Array_Elements = 9 >o2 >         .sbttl  User_Data User Data Declarations > ;   > ;       Variable Declarations. > ;l1 >         .psect  User_Data, rd, wrt, noexe, longO > ;,E > ; Define a descriptor of the menu items.  This is a one dimensionaliB > ; array of fixed character strings.  For more information on theI > ; Array Descriptor, refer to the "Introduction to VMS System Routines",l' > ; June 1990, pages 2-22 through 2-25.  > ;,I > Options:               ; Descriptor of a array of fixed length strings.r >:F >         .word String_Size       ; dsc$w_length - Length of 1 elementB >         .byte dsc$k_dtype_t     ; dsc$b_dtype - Character String= >         .byte dsc$k_class_a     ; dsc$b_class - Array ClassiG >         .address Option_Elements; dsc$a_pointer - Pointer to elementsy< >         .byte 0                 ; dsc$b_scale - No scaling< >         .byte 0                 ; dsc$b_digits - No Digits8 >         .byte <<1@dsc$v_fl_coeff>!<1@dsc$v_fl_bounds>>C >                                 ; dsc$b_aflags, multipliers block : >                                 ; and bounds informationE >         .byte 1                 ; dsc$b_dimct, number of dimensions * >         .long String_Size*Array_elements< >                                 ; dsc$l_arsize, array size > ;oD > ; The next two quadword blocks represent the multiplier and bounds > ; information. > ; C >         .address Option_Elements; dsc$a_a0 - Address of 0th arrayp@ >         .long Array_Elements    ; dsc$l_m1 - Size of the array: >         .long 1                 ; dsc$l_l1 - Lower limit: >         .long Array_Elements    ; dsc$l_u1 - Upper limit >s@ > Option_elements:                        ;Table of menu choices >         .ascii  /Northwest/r >         .ascii  /North    /t >         .ascii  /Northeast/  >         .ascii  /West     /h >         .ascii  /Equator  /r >         .ascii  /East     /n >         .ascii  /Southwest/, >         .ascii  /South    /  >         .ascii  /Southeast/i > ;a+ > ; Verify that array matches what we want.  > ; D >         ASSUME <.-Option_Elements> EQ <String_Size*Array_Elements> > K > Selected:       .ascid  /         /     ; Selected menu item value stringoE > Number:         .word   0               ; Selected menu item NumberdF > Def_Number:     .word   5               ; Default starting menu item9 > PB_Id:          .long   0               ; Pasteboard IDo7 > KB_ID:          .long   0               ; Keyboard ID-F > Display1:       .long   0               ; Display ID 1 (main window)J > Display2:       .long   0               ; Display ID 2 (Selection returnA >                                         ;               window) < > Term:           .word   0               ; Terminator Value= > Display_Attributes:                     ; Window Attributesw& >                 .long   SMG$M_BORDERB > Rendition_Complement:                   ; Make menu entries bold$ >                 .long   SMG$M_BOLDG > Flags:          .long   SMG$M_DOUBLE_SPACE ; Blank line between itemswG > Menu_Type:      .long   SMG$K_BLOCK     ; Make menu Items fill window.H > Rows:           .long   0               ; Local - Number, Starting RowK > Columns:        .long   0               ; Local - Number, Starting ColumnJ >i= >         .sbttl  CREATE_MENU Code to create the Menu Windows= > ; F > ; This code creates an association between the user screen, keyboardI > ; and two windows.  The main window contains the menu options and takes-F > ; the keyboard actions.  The second window displays the value of the > ; selected menu item.o > ;b > ; Inputs:R > ;I6 > ;       None - Invoked from DCL - Main Routine Only. > ;  > ; Implicit Inputs: > ;2> > ;       Data Items from variable declarations section above. > ;  > ; Side Effects:a > ;t> > ;       User Screen is cleared and used as display for Menu. > ;e1 >         .psect  User_Code, rd, nowrt, exe, longl# >         .ENTRY  CREATE_MENU, ^M<>n > ;h+ > ; Associate the screen to the pasteboard.h > ; I >         pushab  PB_ID                           ; PasteBoard ID Address.I >         calls   #1, g^smg$create_pasteboard     ; Create the pasteboardn? >         check_status                            ; Verify call  > ;m* > ; Create an association to the keyboard. > ;nJ >         pushab  kb_id                           ; Address of keyboard IDJ >         calls   #1, g^smg$create_virtual_keyboard      ; Create keyboardF >         check_status                                   ;  and verify > ; + > ; Create the display for the Menu Output.n > ;"F >         movzbl  #3, Rows                        ; Set number of rowsI >         movzbl  #12, Columns                    ; set number of columnsyF >         pushab  display_attributes              ; Border the display> >         pushab  display2                        ; Display IDE >         pushab  columns                         ; Number Of ColumnsoB >         pushab  rows                            ; Number of RowsF >         calls   #4, g^smg$create_virtual_display; Create the display >         check_status > ;n$ > ; Create the display for the Menu. > ; F >         movzbl  #6, Rows                        ; Set number of rowsI >         movzbl  #37, Columns                    ; set number of columnsyF >         pushab  display_attributes              ; Border the display> >         pushab  display1                        ; Display IDE >         pushab  columns                         ; Number Of ColumnsuB >         pushab  rows                            ; Number of RowsF >         calls   #4, g^smg$create_virtual_display; Create the display >         check_status > ;u > ; Put up the output display. > ;cF >         movzbl  #2, Rows                        ; Set number of rowsI >         movzbl  #16, Columns                    ; set number of columns G >         pushab  Columns                         ; Set Column to PlacetD >         pushab  Rows                            ; Set Row to placeG >         pushab  pb_id                           ; Use this pasteboardoD >         pushab  display2                        ; use this displayE >         calls   #4, g^smg$paste_virtual_display ; Paste the displaye >         check_status > ;o > ; Put up the Menu display. > ; F >         movzbl  #10, Rows                       ; Set number of rowsI >         movzbl  #10, Columns                    ; set number of columns G >         pushab  Columns                         ; Set Column to Place H >         pushab  Rows                            ; Set the Row to placeG >         pushab  pb_id                           ; Use this pasteboardhD >         pushab  display1                        ; use this displayE >         calls   #4, g^smg$paste_virtual_display ; Paste the displayr >         check_status > ; 7 > ; Create and map the Menu to the main (menu) display.i > ;eF >         pushab  rendition_complement            ; Set the complement? >         clrq    -(sp)                           ; Null Values C >         pushab  flags                           ; Menu AttributesnD >         pushab  menu_type                       ; Set block format> >         pushab  Options                         ; Menu ItemsG >         pushab  display1                        ; Use the big displaynC >         calls   #7, g^smg$create_menu           ; Create the Menui >         check_status > ;eC > ; Read Menu selection from the keyboard returning the item number A > ; and its description value (string).  When Control Z is input,l$ > ; exit the loop and return to DCL. > ; I >         movl    #smg$m_return_immed, flags      ; Complete on selection J > Loop:   pushab  selected                        ; Return Selected stringC >         pushab  term                            ; terminator code = >                                                 ;  returned ? >         clrq    -(sp)                           ; Null valuest= >         pushab  flags                           ; New FlagsoB >         pushab  def_number                      ; Default choiceC >                                                 ;   (Start point)iC >         pushab  number                          ; Selected Choicei> >         pushab  display1                        ; Display Id? >         pushab  kb_id                           ; Keyboard IDeE >         calls   #9, g^smg$select_from_menu      ; Get the Menu Item G >         cmpl    #smg$_eof, r0                   ; Check For Control Zi >         beql    endA >         check_status > ;xE > ; Take the selected string value and place it in the output window.  > ; A >         pushab  selected                        ; Get the valuelC >         pushab  display2                        ; and put it hereaG >         calls   #2, g^smg$put_line              ; Put line on displays >         check_statusH >         movw    Number, Def_Number              ; Keep Display at last; >                                                 ;  select'? >         brb     Loop                            ; Loop Around  > ;  > ; User is done.C > ;oG > end:    movl    #1, r0                          ; Always Success here > >         ret                                     ; We're Done >         .end    create_menud >  >d > PROGRAM NOTES: > C > To use the above example program, perform the following commands:  >  >      $ MACRO create_menu >      $ LINK create_menul >      $ RUN create_menu >  >= >  >= >= >= >=/ thx a lot to all. i have solved the problem. :)t   jeamsr   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:18:18 -0400=* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>5 Subject: Re: howto get a parameter (p1) to an ftp job ) Message-ID: <3EC28864.EC6DBEDA@istop.com>-   Trygve Aspenes wrote:  > $! SendFileToHost30 > $ ftp machine /username="***" /password="****" >    cd /some/diru
 >    put 'P1'u	 >    quit  > $!    ; $COPY/FTP 'p1 machine"username password"::"/some/dir/''p1'"u  K HELP COPY/FTP provides more information. If you absolutely need to do it asiH your wrote above, you need to create a temporary file containing the ftp commands and then execute it.t   ------------------------------    Date: 14 May 2003 15:49:01 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)( Subject: Hyperthreading to save itanium?= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0305141449.6111e09a@posting.google.com>   , I thought EV8-9 was going to ... maybe both?  ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9502   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:07:22 -0700o. From: "David D Miller" <ddmiller@raytheon.com> Subject: INIT/SHADOWF Message-ID: <OF727CBB4C.1C630FB8-ON07256D26.0067BECC@rsc.raytheon.com>   Gentlefolk:v  + Here is more data on the following problem.*  B 1. VERB reveals that /SHADOW isn't part of DCLTABLES definition of
 INITIALIZE1 2. If I add it in, INITIALIZE crashes with ACCVIOMJ 3. According to OVMS/VAX 7.3 New Features, this qualifier was added on the 7.3 release.G 4. HELP INITIALIZE /SHADOW exists and HELP INITIALIZE EXAMPLE shows andk example.? 5. I got my installation kit CD from the hobbyist site, not HP.t3 6. There are no patches for INITIALIZE or DCLTABLESf  - This inspires a new set of questions/comments    1. Is the hobbyist kit flawed?9 2. How did one create a shadow set prior to OVMS/VAX 7.3?hF 3. I'm under the impression that OVMS will support shadowing -- an HSx isn't required.>$    Perhaps that assumption is wrong.  	 Any tips?C   dave.   * ---------------- original post follows ...   Folks:  F I must be blind.  What am I doing wrong?  Why doesn't INIT work?  This" command is right out of HELP INIT.   SYS$HELP? sho dev dk  E Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Freen	 Trans MnttG   Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks-	 Count Cnt-F VAX$DKA0:               Mounted              1  OVMSVAXSYS     1696356 183   1r. VAX$DKA100:             Online               0. VAX$DKA400:             Online wrtlck        0. VAX$DKB200:             Online               0  3 SYS$HELP? init/erase/shadow=(dka100:,dkb200:) sparekE %DCL-W-IVQUAL, unrecognized qualifier - check validity, spelling, andd	 placemente
   \SHADOW\	 SYS$HELP?   J VAX/VMS 7.3 with level 1, SHAD01 and MOUN01 patches.  VAXstation 3100 M48.   dave.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:30:52 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: INIT/SHADOW? Message-ID: <OF22C96D83.561BFAEA-ON85256D26.006AF466@metso.com>r  J Another poster (memory fails) had it correctly that you need an allocation class to do shadowing.6 My initialize verb _does_ include a /SHADOW qualifier.J There is no need to initialize a volume prior to adding it to a shadowset.  That is why this is a latecomer.% I cannot comment about hobbyist kits.:  F From:  "David D Miller" <ddmiller@raytheon.com> on 05/14/2003 03:07 PM  : Please respond to "David D Miller" <ddmiller@raytheon.com>   To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com cc:o   Subject:    INIT/SHADOWi     Gentlefolk:c  + Here is more data on the following problem.h  B 1. VERB reveals that /SHADOW isn't part of DCLTABLES definition of
 INITIALIZE1 2. If I add it in, INITIALIZE crashes with ACCVIO-J 3. According to OVMS/VAX 7.3 New Features, this qualifier was added on the 7.3 release.G 4. HELP INITIALIZE /SHADOW exists and HELP INITIALIZE EXAMPLE shows and6 example.? 5. I got my installation kit CD from the hobbyist site, not HP.h3 6. There are no patches for INITIALIZE or DCLTABLESt  - This inspires a new set of questions/commentsc   1. Is the hobbyist kit flawed?9 2. How did one create a shadow set prior to OVMS/VAX 7.3?sF 3. I'm under the impression that OVMS will support shadowing -- an HSx isn't required.A$    Perhaps that assumption is wrong.  	 Any tips?    dave.a  * ---------------- original post follows ...   Folks:  F I must be blind.  What am I doing wrong?  Why doesn't INIT work?  This" command is right out of HELP INIT.   SYS$HELP? sho dev dk  E Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Freeu	 Trans MntiG   Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocksa	 Count CntsF VAX$DKA0:               Mounted              1  OVMSVAXSYS     1696356 183   1d. VAX$DKA100:             Online               0. VAX$DKA400:             Online wrtlck        0. VAX$DKB200:             Online               0  3 SYS$HELP? init/erase/shadow=(dka100:,dkb200:) spare E %DCL-W-IVQUAL, unrecognized qualifier - check validity, spelling, and 	 placement 
   \SHADOW\	 SYS$HELP?g  J VAX/VMS 7.3 with level 1, SHAD01 and MOUN01 patches.  VAXstation 3100 M48.   dave.a   ------------------------------    Date: 14 May 2003 16:17:20 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)G Subject: Re: INIT/SHADOW3 Message-ID: <LS+ai32+oQHB@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  V In article <3EC297F2.2FAC13A4@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes: > David D Miller wrote:e< >> 2. How did one create a shadow set prior to OVMS/VAX 7.3? > L > you init the 2 drives separately. then you use MOUNT, with the first driveS > specified used as a source and the subsequent ones as target of a copy operation., > P > My guess is that the INIT/SHADOW would skip the copy operation. Perhaps it wasG > implemented in Alpha but not in VAX (as are many things these days) ?r  E     Perhaps it's installed when a shadowing product is installed?  Orl3     only available if a shadowing PAK is installed?t   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:24:44 -0400u* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: INIT/SHADOW) Message-ID: <3EC297F2.2FAC13A4@istop.com>    David D Miller wrote:1; > 2. How did one create a shadow set prior to OVMS/VAX 7.3?   J you init the 2 drives separately. then you use MOUNT, with the first driveQ specified used as a source and the subsequent ones as target of a copy operation.a  N My guess is that the INIT/SHADOW would skip the copy operation. Perhaps it wasE implemented in Alpha but not in VAX (as are many things these days) ?    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:12:55 GMTa< From: "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp>( Subject: Re: Java "Unknown host" problem0 Message-ID: <HGvwa.822$j12.397@news.cpqcorp.net>   Alan Hoffman wrote:5F > I'm using Java 1.4.0-1 on OpenVMS 7.3-1. When I start my applicationB > there is about a 2 minute time where nothing happens,  after theE > timeout the message "Unknown host: WSA1" shows up on the screen andu+ > then my application starts and runs fine.l   > Can anyone tell me how tonE > eliminate the 2 minute timeout and the "Unknown host" message? I've H > just started using OpenVMS so I'm not very familiar with how it works.& > My application does simple file I/O.  F The long time out could be for many reasons.  Have you made sure that H your working set is large enough?  JAVA is a heavy consumer of physical  and virtual memory.w    E I have been told that the diagnostic message about the WSA device is >E cosmetic and when the next release of DECWindows-MOTIF comes out, it rH should not appear.  It has to do with the JAVA using an API that is not 2 fully supported with the current DECWindows-MOTIF.  F If this is not sufficient, please log a service call about this issue G through the CSC or the contact information on the JAVA for OpenVMS web   pages.  I  > Our system person wasn't sure what you meant by tcpip stack but we are>2  > running TCPIP version 5.3 on a Decstation DS10.  I I am assuming that you mean a AlphaServer DS10.  OpenVMS does not run on MG any Decstation hardware as DECstation hardware uses the MIPS processor.r  E Please use the correct names for the hardware platforms as there are t: many similarly named systems that are very much different.    H  > Also when I ran "TCPIP SHOW HOST WSA1" I got the 2 minute timeout and  > then an error message.t+  > %TCPIP-W-NORECORD, information not found   > -RMS-E-RNF, record not foundd  I That means that it had to search one or more external DNS systems before tH it gave up.  This is expected as WSA1 is not a host name, and the TCPIP H show host does not do any logical or symbol translations of names given  to it.   -John ! malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hpA Personal Opinion OnlyE   ------------------------------    Date: 14 May 2003 15:28:36 -07005 From: Hiroyuki_Tanaka4@excite.co.jp (Hiroyuki Tanaka) 7 Subject: Re: Looking up DECnet addresses from Node named< Message-ID: <68cfa44d.0305141428.7f1fe6b@posting.google.com>   Hi Mike / Alan,    Thanks for the response.    D Sorry but I am intersted in doing this via a program as run-time.  I@ wish to know how you look up names via QIO for DECnet similar to< INETACP_FUNC$C_GETHOSTBYNAME function modifier in the TCP/IP
 interface.  C How do I look up information about terminal servers from the DECnet F 'database' using QIO to get the node hardware address and node number.7  I wish to use this information to connect to the node.a   Thanks   Tanaka   Alan Adams <alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b1aa85f24b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>..., > In message <3EC25F60.212C9E11@digital.com>? >           Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com> wrote:e >  > > Hiroyuki Tanaka wrote: > > >  > > > Dear Reader, > > > F > > > I would like to know how you look up a terminal servers hardwareJ > > > address from the node name via the QIO interface.  I wish to be ableJ > > > to look up a terminal server name DSRV and get the 08-00-xx-xx-xx-xx
 > > > number.p > > > I > > > I wish to do this from a program via QIO or am I suppose to read aniE > > > indexed file to get this information.  Which manual is all this  > > > described in?o > > > B > > > I am using DECnet IV.  Are there DECnet programming manuals. > > >  > > > Tanaka> > > If the DecServer is already defined in the DECnet databaseC > > then look for it's characteristics. If it isn't you'll have to s > > either:i> > > 1. login to the DS on a terminal connected directly and do > >    Local> SHOW SERVERe > > or( > > 2. Look for a sticker on the DS box. > M > Then double check it. I had one with an error in the address (D8 instead ofhM > D7 somewhere I think), and another which was supplied by field service as a I > replacement, which must have been repaired, because the address bore nod' > relation to that printed on the case.i >  > >  > > Mike   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 20:54:22 -0500t1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>r7 Subject: Re: Looking up DECnet addresses from Node nameA' Message-ID: <3EC2F34E.41E8FAED@fsi.net>s   Hiroyuki Tanaka wrote: >  > Hi Mike / Alan,a >  > Thanks for the response. > F > Sorry but I am intersted in doing this via a program as run-time.  IB > wish to know how you look up names via QIO for DECnet similar to> > INETACP_FUNC$C_GETHOSTBYNAME function modifier in the TCP/IP > interface. > E > How do I look up information about terminal servers from the DECnettH > 'database' using QIO to get the node hardware address and node number.9 >  I wish to use this information to connect to the node.a  > Well, that's quite a bit different from your original request.  F Not sure where to find the doc. at this point, but this was documented2 many moons ago (using MOP, etc. within a program).  D What troubles me is that you say, "I wish to use this information toC connect to the node". Connect how? ...by MOP Remote Console? If thelF target server supports TCP/IP, there may be another way to do what you want.e  G Exactly what is it that you're up to? Why do you want to connect to theeH server, and, once you do, what kind of conversation do you want to carry on with the server?.   -- e David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems* http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 22:37:01 +0400 2 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <Laishev@StarLet.SPB.RU># Subject: MAIL$ routines and User SSt- Message-ID: <3EC28CCD.6050505@StarLet.SPB.RU>e   Hi All!w@ 	I writting a some interface module supposed to be installed as G protected shareable image to implement some "wrappering" from Java. Is iD there some tips and triks of using MAIL$ routines from so protected E image? I tested this "wrapper API" in standalone mode, but I getting  = ACCVIO (when this module is installed) at mail$user_get_info..   	{ 	unsigned short	retlen = 0;  	ile3	in_lst[] = {* 		{userlen, MAIL$_USER_USERNAME, user, 0}, 		{0,MAIL$_NOSIGNAL,0,0},X
 		{0,0,0,0}},s 		out_lst[] = { < 		{255, MAIL$_USER_FULL_DIRECTORY, &ctx->fspec[1], &retlen},
 		{0,0,0,0}};    	/*i' 	** Check and initalize an user contexta 	*/eE 	if ( !(1 & (status = mail$user_begin(&ctx->user,nullist,nullist))) )  		lib$signal(status);R  I 	if ( !(1 & (status = mail$user_get_info(&ctx->user,&in_lst,&out_lst))) )  		lib$signal(status);0   	ctx->fspec[0]	= (char) retlen;o 	}   	TIA.@     -- e Cheers, Ruslan.tD +---------------------pure personal opinion------------------------+2               Mobile: +7 (812) 116-3222/NMT/IMT-MCB     TKD (WTF) in Russia, St.-Petersburg - www.TaeKwonDo-WTF.SPb.RU0                  http://starlet.spb.ru/~laishev/   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 18:47:52 GMTG3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond)  Subject: Re: next VMS versions0 Message-ID: <sbwwa.825$za2.401@news.cpqcorp.net>  % In article <3ec281f6$1@news.si.com>, c2 "Brian Tillman" <Tillman@sparkingwire.com> writes:  % >I went from V6.2 to V7.3-1 directly.e  B What you "can" do and what is "supported" may be different things.  / The "supported" upgrade paths have been tested.e  C Unsupported upgrade paths often work -- or at least appear to work. I They may also have subtle problems that will not be apparent immediately.n  F For a production system, or any system that you care about long-term, D use of supported upgrade paths is generally well worth any time that) might be saved using an unsupported path.C   -- sJ       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:39:44 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: next VMS versions) Message-ID: <3EC28D69.86A7F122@istop.com>-  M > >> Consider this: A trainer of a VMS course I went on suggested OpenVMS mayN5 > >> become a layered product on HP-UX. Any thoughts?4  , In other words, the reverse of Posix on VMS.  M If HP can converts its VMS customers to HP-UX, it would be very happy because5H it would help boost HP-UX's market share. (I think that this is all that counts for Carly).  K So once VMS is ported to IA64 thanks to Intel funding, they can declare VMS K mature, and then port its environment to HP-UX as an application. Carly canhA then be happy to have further streamlined HP's product portfolio.g  C I am, more than ever, convinced that Scott Stallard's original memoeJ represented HP's true intentions with regards to VMS users going to HP-UX.   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT)e. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>F Subject: Re: OpenVMS Pearl - OpenVMS Article on InTech Brazil Magazine@ Message-ID: <20030514214512.55224.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com>   JimD   I know ! Just joking ! :-)     Regardso    & --- Jim Agnew <jpagnew@vcu.edu> wrote:E > Fabio, if you are worrying about that, you better be aware that you I > spoke to the entire farking planet just now...   "Qua-Pla!"  (Good luck0 > in Klingon...) >  > jima >  > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > > 
 > > Oh yeah !t > > E > > Renato is one of the best/last OVMS specialists we have in Brazil  > > : > > I am at Petrobras by EDS, but not in automation team !< > > I worked with the transportations systems (at Compaq PS)9 > > and nowadays (EDS) I manage the supply system powered  > > by OVMS and Oracle RDB. : > > Sap is trying to swallow the systems but.... hehhe ...D > > I can't tell you because of some specific rules at the company !: > > If I  will be here until Jul, 2004 I will tell you ;-) > > ; > > PS: Petrobras is the 14th oil producer in the world and-B > > 80% of the oil used by the country is produced in deep waters.? > > We are the worldwide champions in deep water drilling for ae< > > long time. A lot of oil rigs in the sea, about 60-70 !!!; > > So I can say that OpenVMS powers Petrobras production !t > > ; > > PS: Dont publish it officialy  or I will be fired ! :-)u > >  > > Regardse > >  > > FC > > : > > --- Sue Skonetski <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Skonetski, Susan* > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:36 AM > > > To: Skonetski, SusanH > > > Subject: OpenVMS Pearl - OpenVMS Article on InTech Brazil Magazine > > >  > > >' > > > Folks, > > >gL > > > Renato (OpenVMS Ambassador) has sent me the article referenced which IG > > > have not included since it is in Portuguese.  I you would like iti > > > please let me know.e > > >n" > > > OK for external distribution > > >  > > > Warm Regards,y	 > > > Suee > > >d > > >r# > > > >  -----Original Message-----A' > > > > From:       Albuquerque, Renato20 > > > > Sent:       Monday, May 12, 2003 4:15 PM > > > > To: Skonetski, Susan= > > > > Subject:    OpenVMS Article on InTech Brazil Magazinen > > > >  > > > > Hi Sue > > > >PI > > > > Do you remember that Silvia Pereira, from InTech Brazil Magazine,P > contactedPO > > > you asking for OpenVMS information? The article on OpenVMS appears on theo3 > > > last issue. I will describe it briefly below.i > > > > I > > > The article talks about VMSs history and quotes two Customers fromfL > > > Petrobras (Brazilian oil company) that were interviewed. They say thatK > > > they run their automation and process control applications on OpenVMSOH > > > since 1990 because it is stable, highly available and secure. TheyH > > > also say that the market trend is to migrate these applications toJ > > > Windows, specially because of the OpenVMS costs, but they still have  > > > not scheduled any changes. > > >oK > > > > John Egolf was also interviewed. He said that since downtime is too3K > > > expensive for the industry segment, many Customers (1000) have chosenm	 > OpenVMSrO > > > because of its high availability and scalability. And when the OpenVMS isAH > > > available on Itanium the OpenVMS solution will be cheaper and more > attractive > > > to Customers.  > > > >sH > > > The worst thing in the article is the title. It says: "VMS: losing> > > > space for Windows?". At least there is an question mark! > > >> > > > > Regards, > > > >r > > > > Renato Albuquerque.? > > 	 > > =====o > > ========================== > > Fbio dos Santos Cardoso > > OpenVMS System Manager > > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  > > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br > > ========================== > > & > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!?2 > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.comg >  > -- cH > "4,000 years ago I made a mistake."  Elrond Half-Elven, in "Fellowship > of the Ring"     =====y ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.come   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:09:57 -0500t1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>r% Subject: Re: OpenVMS Pearl Wed May 14s' Message-ID: <3EC2F6F5.6CC8DA34@fsi.net>T   Sue Skonetski wrote: > * > ETL project at large credit card company > [snip]   Ok, I'll bite - what's "ETL"?t   -- g David J. Dachterao dba DJE Systemsg http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/a   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:37:51 -0700 (PDT)=. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>T Subject: Re: OpenVMS support for Additional Hardware on hp's new AlphaServer Systems@ Message-ID: <20030514213751.50745.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com>   Oh !    5 When HP will develop Lan Consoles for Alphaservers ? =9 If the Itanium already have it may be it is not difficult @ for HP Enginnering to develop a PCI card ! If well marketed will
 sell a lot ! m   RegardsI   FC w6 --- Sue Skonetski <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> wrote:B > .OpenVMS support for Additional Hardware on hp's new AlphaServer	 > Systems  > > F > In May  2003, OpenVMS announces support for the following additionalD > features and hardware options on the latest release of AlphaServer5 > Systems, the ES47, ES80, and GS1280 series systems:c > H > *       Hard partitions, which enable you to run multiple instances ofG > the operating system concurrently in physically separate parts of the G > computer.  Such a configuration enables you to dedicate one partition G > to running one or more applications, and another partition to running G > one or more different  applications, and so on, with maximum hardware G > security for each partition.  Hard partition support requires updated ? > firmware (V6.5 console set) and a hard partitioning patch kit  > (VMS731_PARTITIONING-V0100).D > *       2D and 3D graphics support by means of the ATI Radeon 7500E > graphics card and a graphics software kit (VMS731_GRAPHICS-V0100).  F > Support for the adapter on additional AlphaServers will be announced
 > shortly.B > *       X.25 and WANDD support by means of the PBXDD card and an: > update to the X.25 and WANDD software (X25_V16ECO1 kit). > G > Also included are patch kits that resolve the issues with CPUSPINWAIT4H > and with logging an incorrect severity level for environmental events.G > The CPUSPINWAIT problem has been fixed with the VMS731_Graphics-V0100 H > patch kit, and the Environmental Events Logged with Incorrect SeverityE > Level problem has been resolved with the VMS731_CPU270F-V0100 patch  > kit.> > The updated hp OpenVMS New Features and Release Notes for hpA > AlphaServer ES47, ES80, and GS1280 Series Systems with detailedtE > information about this additional support will be available on thisa > web site by May 21. F > For detailed configuration support, please reference the AlphaServer > QuickSpec for your system at: F > <http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/Division/10410.html>.     =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:20:34 +1000 1 From: Paddy O'Brien <paddy.o'brien@tg.nsw.gov.au>t$ Subject: Re: Spamfilter for OpenVMS?, Message-ID: <3EC2C132.3000504@tg.nsw.gov.au>   Bob Koehler wrote:e > In article <cbTudTC$hDQs@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:s > > >>You say cheaper rate, I say discount.  It is the same thing.E >>You disagree with the Postal Service when they say it pays its way.s >  > H >    The Postal Service often has no choice.  Much of this stuff is law.& >    Congress says it's good this way.  F What I find more insidious is the "spam" stuff that is not posted but E just stuffed into our letter boxes.  Over a week, I would think that vG about 80% of the volume of my mail collection constitutes this sort of r rubbish.  E The posted spam is very small in contrast, and my email spam is only tG what gets through via info-VAX.  My name seems to be an efficient spam   blocker.   Regards, Paddy      G ***********************************************************************t  C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privilegedo> and confidential information intended only for the use of the B addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advisemB the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, 7 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.c  A If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid tA immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the  = individual sender except where the sender expressly and with  C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses > virus scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses contained in any attachment.  < Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now$ firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"  G ***********************************************************************    ------------------------------    Date: 14 May 2003 15:37:49 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) * Subject: Re: VMS Admins with too much time3 Message-ID: <zVqaVKtY1Ca7@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  o In article <Ivxwa.831$Ag2.681@news.cpqcorp.net>, "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> writes:  > JF Mezei wrote:2$ >>>I found the following script on :0 >>>"http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/d.html". >> mE >> Good news. There are 3 examples of DCL and one of TPU. Pretty goodb) >> representation of VMS  in this bunch !e >  > Also:  > @ > http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/b.html#BLISS-(bliss-style) > E > http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/b.html#BLISS-(procedural-style)  > 1 > http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/t.html#Teco   # And what kind of TECO statement is:_   	qp:= ^A bottles^A  ' or many of the others, for that matter.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:16:05 GMT ! From: rob.buxton@wcc.spam.govt.nz * Subject: Re: VMS Admins with too much time$ Message-ID: <3ec2dc15.15246543@news>  , On Wed, 14 May 2003 14:26:09 -0400, JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:  $ >> I found the following script on :0 >> "http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/d.html". >tC >Good news. There are 3 examples of DCL and one of TPU. Pretty good ' >representation of VMS  in this bunch !  >oK >Was the fancy one with the FAO submitted by a VMS engineer by any chance ?  > P >Interesting that beer is such a common constant for males in the western world.  0 I don't think it's limited to the Western world!   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:26:09 -0400n* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>* Subject: Re: VMS Admins with too much time) Message-ID: <3EC28A3B.4C710167@istop.com>   # > I found the following script on :s/ > "http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/d.html".   B Good news. There are 3 examples of DCL and one of TPU. Pretty good& representation of VMS  in this bunch !  J Was the fancy one with the FAO submitted by a VMS engineer by any chance ?  O Interesting that beer is such a common constant for males in the western world.k   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 20:17:44 GMT < From: "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp>* Subject: Re: VMS Admins with too much time0 Message-ID: <Ivxwa.831$Ag2.681@news.cpqcorp.net>   JF Mezei wrote:l# >>I found the following script on :e/ >>"http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/d.html".t > D > Good news. There are 3 examples of DCL and one of TPU. Pretty good( > representation of VMS  in this bunch !   Also:   > http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/b.html#BLISS-(bliss-style)  C http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/b.html#BLISS-(procedural-style)   / http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/t.html#Tecol  ? And make a note of where the Kermit version was submitted from.n   -John ! malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp  Personal Opinion Onlyb   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 21:49:49 GMTr< From: "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp>* Subject: Re: VMS Admins with too much time0 Message-ID: <1Sywa.845$pl2.540@news.cpqcorp.net>   Larry Kilgallen wrote:2 > In article <Ivxwa.831$Ag2.681@news.cpqcorp.net>,A  > "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> writes:a > 1 >>http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/t.html#Tecol >  > % > And what kind of TECO statement is:e >  > 	qp:= ^A bottles^A   ^A Documented? ^Ao   qp:=  D Output the numeric value in Q register p at the terminal with out a  carriage return or line feed.o  E Any text between the ^A characters is displayed on the terminal as a n message.  ) > or many of the others, for that matter.   # I have not looked at the others :-)h   -John ! malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hps Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------    Date: 14 May 2003 16:55:17 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) * Subject: Re: VMS Admins with too much time3 Message-ID: <SyAmX3MOnVq7@eisner.encompasserve.org>   o In article <1Sywa.845$pl2.540@news.cpqcorp.net>, "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> writes:r > Larry Kilgallen wrote:3 >> In article <Ivxwa.831$Ag2.681@news.cpqcorp.net>, C >  > "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> writes:o >> p2 >>>http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/t.html#Teco >>   >> h& >> And what kind of TECO statement is: >>   >> 	qp:= ^A bottles^As >  > ^A Documented? ^A    Ok.  I concede my error.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.267 ************************