1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 23 May 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 283       Contents: Re: Alpha lives on in Dell? + Re: anti-spam on VMS: top 16 spam networks? $ Compaq C Version 6.5 Compiler Wanted( Re: Compaq C Version 6.5 Compiler Wanted( Re: Decserver 700 software on CD or DDS?" Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #1" Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #1" Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #1" Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #1" Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #2" Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #2" Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #2H Re: DECUS Lyon 2002 (was: DECUS Amsterdam (anonymous) pictures are here)P Re: DECUS Lyon 2002 (was: DECUS Amsterdam (anonymous) pictures are here) here)he. Re: Drivers and Utilities for Digital printers. Re: Drivers and Utilities for Digital printers Re: FREE TO A GOOD HOME $ Re: General Printer on LAN questions' Re: Getting into the DS20E Alpha Server  Re: hp ssh on vms7.3-1
 Re: HTTP POST H Re: Looking for some DS20e parts, possible trade for other DEC gear or ?* Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.* RE: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.* Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.* Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.* RE: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Physical Device Names  Re: Portents of VMS death  Re: Reading an ASCII File  Re: Reading an ASCII File  Re: Reading an ASCII File  Re: Reading an ASCII File  Re: Reading an ASCII File  Re: Reading an ASCII File 3 Re: Sparky is losing the race Andrew ... and badly! 3 Re: Sparky is losing the race Andrew ... and badly! + Re: system fan failure in Alphaserver 4100.  Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit  Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit  Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit  Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit  Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit  Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit P Re: Tool to display quotas used and limits (was Re: prod install	hung - help ple2 Re: Where's the equivalent HP sponsorship for VMS?2 RE: Where's the equivalent HP sponsorship for VMS?. ZLE data synchronise with different line speed  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 14:10:29 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) $ Subject: Re: Alpha lives on in Dell?3 Message-ID: <Me7eb1$JhmbN@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <d7791aa1.0305220528.71850bda@posting.google.com>, bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:( > that's what the Inquirer is saying ... > * > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9622  > 	No Bob, that "Dell" reference referred to an earlier article.B 	The premise being that Intel opens its kimono and reveals futures7 	to keep Dell from bolting the stable for Opteron.  Not B 	Alpha living on in Dell.  Dell hopefully buying into IA64 because. 	the story is going to get a whole lot better.   				Rob    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:10:37 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) 4 Subject: Re: anti-spam on VMS: top 16 spam networks?( Message-ID: <baj3qs$7tb$1@pcls4.std.com>  = koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:   J >> Yes.  (Besides, nearly all other headers on spam is forged, it requiresL >> some detective work to find the real source)  Blocking networks like AOL,H >> hotmail etc. won't help much since most spam doesn't really come fromM >> there, despite what the From: line says.  (Blocking on what the From: line I >> says does work if you don't expect any mail from those sources at all)   E >   Sure it does.  That's how I block all the crap with faked headers ( >   "from" AOL, Yahoo, MSN, hotmail, ...  E That's essentially what I said.  Blocking whatever network AOL is (IP @ addresses x.y.z.*) won't stop much spam.  Blocking anything with! From: *@aol.com works quite well.    -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:43:39 +0100 " From: "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk>- Subject: Compaq C Version 6.5 Compiler Wanted - Message-ID: <baj92q$ad$2@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>    Hi,   I I have an Alpha [DEC 3000] running VMS 7.1 a  Hobbyist License and an old 2 VMS Alpha Layered Product Set dated December 1997.  K  I would like to upgrade my C compiler from Version *5.6 to 6.5 is there an H FTP site where I can download the latest version or could someone email?   Thanks in advance.   Regards, Gary.   G           * Source Listing                  22-MAY-2003 10:58:04  DEC C " V5.6-003                    Page 1   $ sh sysI OpenVMS V7.1  on node GARYA1  22-MAY-2003 20:16:13.66  Uptime  0 00:08:24 F   Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts Pages F 00000081 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:00:00.08         0 0 F 00000084 LANACP          HIB     13       59   0 00:00:00.16       114 108    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:55:01 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)1 Subject: Re: Compaq C Version 6.5 Compiler Wanted 3 Message-ID: <VGbza.12303$AS6.158711@news.chello.at>   R In article <baj92q$ad$2@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> writes:L > I would like to upgrade my C compiler from Version *5.6 to 6.5 is there anI >FTP site where I can download the latest version or could someone email?   / Are you sure, that your mailbox is big enough ? 9 Usually the size limit of mailboxes is in the range 1-5MB 3 and the C kit is (even compressed) surely over 18MB    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:36:45 -0400   From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>1 Subject: Re: Decserver 700 software on CD or DDS? 5 Message-ID: <1030522233324.2914B-100000@Ives.egh.com>   ) On 21 May 2003, Christoph Gartmann wrote:   V > In article <3ECB2545.420C9D2B@127.0.0.1>, Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> writes:F > >I'm still searching for a free or very cheap DS700-8MC (8 port fullD > >modem control) and while I'm 'drooling over the technical stuff',I > >something that springs out is I think you can upgrade the memory using F > >standard (if parity is standard) PC type memory SIMMs (usual parity	 > >60ns).  > > D > >If there's any confirmation or denial of this in practice, I'd be > >interested. > J > I did this once. But I don't remember what type of memory it was. It wasE > something cheap not from Digital but from a normal PC shop, though.  > 
 > Regards, >    Christoph Gartmann  >   A Me too.  Also can't remember the memory type, but it was a fairly D common SIMM.  I think generic 4MB parity FPM simms should work fine.  B (I extracted this info from several sources: post by Terry KennedyC says "generic 36-bit (parity) fast page mode SIMM", John Nebel says @ "Standard 72 pin SIMMs should be fine", and I checked one of ourC DS700's which has 5MB.  I'm 99% sure it came with 1MB and we bought A some 4MB SIMMs from somewhere (not DEC) to upgrade it and several D others.  I think there are 2 slots.  I have no idea what the largestE SIMM it will take is, but mixed sizes are clearly okay.  I don't know D how fast the memory needs to be.  Since no one mentioned it anywhereD I could find, my guess would be even the slowest available memory in? this size is okay.  Someone else said you need at least 4MB for 8 WWENG2.SYS (the new, fancier "Network Access" software.)   --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 13:40:48 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>+ Subject: Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #1 ) Message-ID: <3ECD0B9C.F8E67034@istop.com>    warren sander wrote:M > www.openvms.digital.com) continue to work. The main reason I set the server N > up to flip the urls to h71000.www7.hp.com besides the corporate directive is6 > to make sure I get consistant metrics from the site.  I It is a problem when companies are more interested in metrics than making 0 their web sites easy, fast and simple to access.  K And if your metrics are javascript based, you are missing a large number of Y page hits from the smart people who keep javascript disabled unless absolutely necessary.    Perhaps you could simply  
 <NOSCRIPT>< <img src="some very small jpg image" alt="A way to measure"> </NOSCRIPT>    C and then look at your webserver logs to see how often that image is H downloaded. That will give you some idea of the number of page hits from" browsers with javascript disabled.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:51:17 +0200 $ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>+ Subject: Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #1 4 Message-ID: <baj5d1$cb9i$1@ID-152801.news.dfncis.de>  ) On 22.05.2003 17:52, warren sander wrote:    > [...]  > N > The powers that be have decided that ALL customers when going to sites don'tM > use any URL other than www.hp.com and then navigate from there to find what  > they are looking for.   & which is rather time consuming ... :-(  6 > We all know that this is bunk but they get paid manyN > dollars to think of these things and won't be swayed by things like reality.  5 The powers that be have never heard of "bookmarks"???   N > So the hp domain name policy isn't something I like but it is applied acrossJ > the board. There are some xxx.hp.com names out there still but those areL > mostly pre-merger and there was a program to shut down those subdomains in > the past.  > : > so in web terms OpenVMS is on a par with the rest of HP. > A > we do have 'jumpstations' like http://www.hp.com/go/openvms and M > http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc and I could get more if you think they are 	 > needed.    hp.com/go/alphaserver ?  hp.com/go/storageworks ?   >  > [...]    Michael    ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 14:51:08 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) + Subject: Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #1 3 Message-ID: <eOhQXvZLzDLO@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <00A203EA.E96D4F6E@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: [ > In article <3eccf612@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com> writes: N >>> I appreciate the work of sites like OpenVMS.org, but if those managing theL >>> official VMS sites within HP aren't even given logical domain/page namesJ >>> consistent with the rest of the HP site, what are people to infer from >>that?  >>> 8 >>> a)  They (HP mgmt) don't give a **bleep** about VMS. >>> ' >>> b)  VMS is supposed to be a secret.  >>N >>but the OpenVMS site does have a logical domain/page name that is consistant >>with the rest of the HP site.  >>M >>I don't like the domain name policy inside HP but everyone is using it. The  > N > Do you like the fact that VMS users are prohibitted from joining and access-N > ing the /DSPP program and pages?  Perhaps *you* can clue in the clueless HP  > webmasters to this fact.  ( Yes, please pass the word along, Warren.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:58:35 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> + Subject: Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #1 F Message-ID: <%Raza.7487$cK1.5277@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  A "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message 0 news:20030522181908.15623.qmail@gacracker.org...7 > NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. : > No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.: > -------------------------------------------------------- > D > On Thu, 22 May 2003, "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com> wrote: > 9 > >> a)  They (HP mgmt) don't give a **bleep** about VMS.  > >>( > >> b)  VMS is supposed to be a secret. > > D > >but the OpenVMS site does have a logical domain/page name that is
 consistant  > >with the rest of the HP site. > A > Okay, given the hp.com/go/<somewhere> idea, they're consistent. 	 Dumb, but D > consistent.  My approach, would be to have more memorable URLs for	 people to = > bookmark.  I get the impression you'd do the same given the  opportunity. >  > <snip> > C > >The powers that be have decided that ALL customers when going to  sites don't D > >use any URL other than www.hp.com and then navigate from there to	 find what C > >they are looking for. We all know that this is bunk but they get 	 paid many F > >dollars to think of these things and won't be swayed by things like reality. > D > Sue, we need OpenVMS marketing cluebats. ;-}  I think Warren would like oneF > too.  Throwing flashing balls at management doesn't work - they just lob them > back, but a cluebat... > @ > >So the hp domain name policy isn't something I like but it is applied acrossA > >the board. There are some xxx.hp.com names out there still but 	 those are ? > >mostly pre-merger and there was a program to shut down those 
 subdomains in  > >the past. > % > It failed.  The following all work:  >  > http://www.hp.com/microsoft  > http://microsoft.hp.com  > http://www.hp.com/linux  > http://linux.hp.com  > F > Okay, they're meant to go, and things like http://www.hp.com/openvms don't C > work, but it would be really nice if the 404 page didn't just say  "Sorry", butC > tried parsing the given URL and using it on the HP search engine.  (If you can E > get whoever is responsible for this convinced it's a good idea, ask  them to D > offer HP's /go/ pages first.  They'll make for better bookmarks. )  D Legal Department won't let them fix it because if they did VMS mightE have more customers and then HP would have more lawsuits when the EOL  VMS. ;-)    	 <snip...>  >  > A > Thanks for offering to try and improve things Warren!  I'm sure  there are a @ > few other people could think of other /go/ suggestions, and if	 there's a E > complete list of VMS-specific /go/ URLs, I'm sure others would list  them.   E  /go/away/go/commands/at/HP could pop open a survey about how many HP + web site users thought the /go ought to go.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:50:48 +0200 4 From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>+ Subject: Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #2 & Message-ID: <3ECD2A18.6010307@Free.fr>   Bob Koehler wrote:_ > In article <3ECBDEB3.4070600@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> writes:  >  > - >>100 first will win an iPalm64/VMS handheld.  >  > E >    A what?  Did HP add a synch program to VMS?  Or DCL to an iPalm?  >  >    French humour, I'm afraid...   D.   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 19:19:14 -07001 From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski) + Subject: Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #2 ; Message-ID: <857e9e41.0305221819.3e42e5@posting.google.com>    Didier,   C What makes you think you are going to have time for a Party in Nove D ;')  We start on Tuesday morning end on Friday.  Tues, Wed and Thurs evenings are all spoken for.  ! The hotel does have a bar though!   
 Warm Regards,  Sue   b Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> wrote in message news:<3ECBDEB3.4070600@Free.fr>... > Hi from Toulouse,  >  > Day two started with rain. > S > I arrived in the RAI Konferenz Zentrum to read my mail at 09:01. Coffee was 1,50  N > euros (1.5 US$). I said "what'sa kinda joke ?", barman said "wuz free until  > 09:00, HP instructions". > @ > Intel session: boring and nobody in the auditorium (or nearly)J > see program at http://www.hp-interex.org/conference2003/sag_tuesday.html > O > 10:30 P69, TCP/IP 5.4. Yanick Pouffary has been amazing (as usual). Who said  P > "normal, VMS Engineering" ? This FAILsafe IP feature is just lovely. (Yanick, V > next time you need an assistant to fix your slides projector, drop me an email, ok?) > O > Annoucement: Early Adopters Kit for TCP/IP 5.4 available. Contact your local  7 > salesrep. 100 first will win an iPalm64/VMS handheld.  > < > 12:00 vendors presentation. I skipped. Shot some pictures. > R > 12:30 Lunch with Terry Shannon who attend that Grid Computing conference. Looks S > interesting. Went to the dining-hall (orange juice and milk :-( Asked me to sign  L > an NDA, then told me what he did for three days in ZK03 (those who do not - > understand do not need to understand... :-) ? > (joke. I did NOT sign a NDA and he did NOT tell me anything).  > P > 13:00 OpenVMS V7.x Network Administration exam (by external vendor whose name 5 > does not appear on the form). Missed by 3.5 points.  > S > Without any preparation nor rtfm, I had, in 23 minutes (among 75), the following   > good answers (69 questions): > F > 77.8% to convert Customer requirements to feasible functional config1 > 73.3% in Troubleshooting, Connectivity and Perf " > 55.6% in Installation and configJ > 54.5% in Integrate Network protocols and applications on OpenVMS systemsP > 40.0% in monitoring and optimization (course, with DECnet IV there is no need)R > 40.0% in Interpret & Apply Terminology, Concepts and Theories (course, I do not = > care about that ***, I care about my Cus-to-mers pro-blems!  > > > 14:00 boring: I read Wladimir Wolkoff's last book: The Plot.S > 15:00 time to leave to the airport. Too bad. I missed Gaitan d'Antoni, Christian  ; > Moser and Terry Shannon closing session (actually today).  > L > See you in November in Nashua's Sheraton Tara, friends (who will set up a  > Noter's Party?)  >  > D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 06:28:05 +0200 4 From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>+ Subject: Re: DECUS Europe Amsterdam: Day #2 & Message-ID: <3ECDA355.4040102@Free.fr>   Sue Skonetski wrote:	 > Didier,  >=20E > What makes you think you are going to have time for a Party in Nove F > ;')  We start on Tuesday morning end on Friday.  Tues, Wed and Thurs > evenings are all spoken for. >=20# > The hotel does have a bar though!   # So, we'll have a P*O*E*T*S then :-)    Chauds regards,    D. --=20 - Didier Morandi sarl au capital de 8 000 euros -   19 chemin de la Butte 31400 Toulouse France /   T=E9l: 33(0)5 6120 1964 Fax: 33(0)5 6154 1928 &           http://www.didiermorandi.com                    RC en cours   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:32:28 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>Q Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon 2002 (was: DECUS Amsterdam (anonymous) pictures are here) ( Message-ID: <3ECD25CC.E9EBBB0@istop.com>   Hans Vlems wrote: H > Magic sessions. Didier, you''ve got to agree that Amsterdam 2003 was a > mistake and a failure.  M Funny, when I read that they had 900 attendees, my first impression was "wow,  that is a lot of people".   H When you say it was a failure, is it because of attendance, or content ?  L If someone were wintel or unix centric, would they have also considered it a	 failure ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:36:47 +0200 4 From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>Y Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon 2002 (was: DECUS Amsterdam (anonymous) pictures are here) here)he & Message-ID: <3ECD26CF.1000406@Free.fr>   Hans Vlems wrote:  > ) > How many people visited Lyon last year?    No idea.   D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:56:16 GMT * From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>7 Subject: Re: Drivers and Utilities for Digital printers 5 Message-ID: <220520031743249455%paul.anderson@hp.com>   2 In article <3ECBF61A.890CE706@istop.com>, JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:  P > Does anyone know where one can get the various drivers and utilities that came > with Digital printers ?  > M > For instance, the documentation for the ethernet card for the DEClaser 5100 K > mentions various utilities to setup the printer. (nssetup, NPmanage etc).  > P > The hp/compaq printer sites doesn't seem to contain anything about the DigitalK > printers. Genicom doesn't have anything either. Have the digital printers ( > changed hands to yet another company ?  E When digital.com went away, unfortunately along with it went a lot of B the Digital printer support stuff.  Support for Digital and CompaqF printers came back to Compaq in 2000, so it's HP's job to support them= now.  I don't know if anyone in the company saved these bits.   F I might have a set of the DEClaser 5100 floppies around; I'll check ifD you want.  What is it you are trying to do?  If you're trying to setG the IP address, you're better off returning the network card to factory E defaults and using arp and ping to send it its new address.  NPmanage D worked on Macs quite well, but required the Netware client installed" for Windows.  Nssetup ran on Unix.   Paul   --    Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineering    Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:38:28 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>7 Subject: Re: Drivers and Utilities for Digital printers ( Message-ID: <3ECD5F64.F1820A2@istop.com>   Paul Anderson wrote:H > I might have a set of the DEClaser 5100 floppies around; I'll check ifF > you want.  What is it you are trying to do?  If you're trying to setI > the IP address, you're better off returning the network card to factory > > defaults and using arp and ping to send it its new address.   J I am having a hard time resetting the card to factory defaults. If I use a4 hammer to reset it, it may not be usable anymore :-(  
 > NPmanage > worked on Macs quite well,     I have a mac !  % >> for Windows.  Nssetup ran on Unix.   D Is there a reason they never produced nssetup for VMS ? What sort ofE comminication occurs between the host and the printer ? Is there some M postscript way to set the printer's features (like the ones documented to set ' the name and password for the printer).    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:39:13 -0500 ' From: Chris Olive <nospam@raytheon.com>   Subject: Re: FREE TO A GOOD HOME> Message-ID: <ekcza.3380$c6.3124@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com>   Lord Isildur wrote: / > some pics of some of the gear can be found at 1 > http://www.vaxpower.org/~isildur/computers.html / > No pics of the 730, but a couple of the 750s. A > The 730 has already been claimed (though not finalized), as has  > one of the 750s! :)  >  > happy hacking,	 > isildur   I Not only did Isildur not throw the One Ring back into the fiery mountain  H of doom, he couldn't bear to ever part with a machine that he came into H possession of as well... 8-)  (Until now, ergo this posting to c.o.v...)  C Good grief.  The local power company must LOVE you, dude.  Are you  D actually running 3-phase in your home????!!?  This makes my 10-node ) network at home look like a starter pack.    Chris  -----  Chris Olive  Systems Consultant' Raytheon Technical Services Corporation  Indianapolis, IN  * email: olivec(AT)indy(DOT)raytheon(DOT)com   ------------------------------   Date: 22 May 2003 16:57 CDT ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) - Subject: Re: General Printer on LAN questions - Message-ID: <22MAY200316572101@gerg.tamu.edu>   . JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes... }Carl Perkins wrote:; }> There is no management port to telnet to, unfortunately.  } M }There are 3 management utilities (Unix, novell and apple) that can setup the H }printer. (of course, none on VMS). So there must be some way to set the }printer up via the network.  D True, but it probably isn't anything like a telnet port with a human9 readable interface that you can respond to interactively.   G }> You should be able to change it the very same way. I know because we I }> changed two of them when our IP address range changed a few years ago, H }> and I'm pretty sure both were changed via either the ping or the rarp
 }> method. } M }I found some documentation tidbits. It states you have to do a cold reset of K }the printer with the card in it for the card to get a total reset at which 0 }point the various methods are supposed to work. } M }I would favour the BOOTP method since I can then supply the printer with its L }IP, net mask and default gateway, information the printer can't obtain withL }just the ping method. But the Ping has failed so far, and even after a cold* }restart, the NIC retains its personality. } L }> I do recall that it was not easy - they did not like to change when thereK }> was a switch between the printer and the computer. I seem to recall that L }> the change was done by directly connecting the printer to a PC's ethernet }> port. } M }In what way would a switch change the packets the printer would be getting ?  }Mine is on a hub.  B I have no idea. But we found that it wasn't working, much like theG trouble you are having. We (well, the person doing this - it wasn't me) F went to a direct connection from PC (a laptop, I think) to printer viaE a crossover cable. He reportedly then did exactly the same thing that I had been tried before and it worked. So the assumption is that the switch 4 could have been the problem, or at least part of it.  D Of course, this was a few years ago - I may be forgetting something.  N }Would it be a question of ensuring there is no other traffic on the lan while( }the printer learns about its identity ?  1 It shouldn't really matter. But it might anyway.    F Sometimes I think that it is a miracle that any of this computer stuffI ever actually works at all. "Weird" stuff happens all the time - so often 3 that it can't really be considered all that weird.     --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:23:52 -0400 , From: "David Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com>0 Subject: Re: Getting into the DS20E Alpha Server/ Message-ID: <vcqjoc1psekb95@news.supernews.com>   @ Unscrew retaining screw at front of box (under front blue bezel)  6 Pull off side (the one furthest from the CDROM/Floppy)   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 12:42:28 -0700- From: merritt.robert@spsd.sk.ca (rob merritt)  Subject: Re: hp ssh on vms7.3-1 = Message-ID: <b6bf97d5.0305221142.2e4f1544@posting.google.com>   ^ david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) wrote in message news:<babt9u$hna$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>...^ > In article <03051914470047@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>, brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon) writes:G > >> Please pardon the advertisement, but you can get non-EAK, non-beta < > >> SSH that runs on TCP/IP Services from Process Software: > >>   > >> http://www.process.com/ > >>   > P > Well almost. If you want SFTP with your SSH from Process then you need to get  > a BETA :)  > 0 > http://www.process.com/tcpip/sftpbetatest.html >  >  >  > David Webb > VMS and Unix team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University >  > * > >> And yes, I work for Process Software. > >>   > >> Hunter  > > & > >No!  Who would have guessed???!  ;) > >  > >John Brandon  > >VMS Systems Administrator > >Dallas Semiconductor  > >first.last@dalsemi.com  > >972.371.4172 wk  A Cool I will swipe that for my home Vaxes and Axp all run Multinet E Ipstack etc. Unfortunatly this is at work and they are kinda paranoid D about me using software from all over the map...? (Don't tell them I. have Liunx or a free/openBSD running here too)   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:05:34 GMT ' From: Don Sykes <anonymous@pacbell.net>  Subject: Re: HTTP POST+ Message-ID: <3ECD1143.CC0BF6E9@pacbell.net>   ! Do you mean something like this?:   = From the DCL command procedure that you access via your HTML: %  <form method="post" action="my.com">    my.com : $ read sys$command POSTDATA    --     Have VMS, Will Travel  Wire paladin, San Francisco    (paladinATalphaseDOTcom)     dana l conroy wrote: > A > I've gotten some great info from this group without ever having D > to post anything (thanks all), but now I need to delurk to ask for
 > assistance.  > B > I'd like to send simple HTTP POST requests from an Alpha runningN > OpenVMS 7.3-1 and MultiNet 4.4.  Through this group I was able to locate theD > source for Arne Vajhj's POSTACTION.C (thanks Arne!).  However, myG > programming skills don't go much beyond DCL, and I don't yet have a C  > compiler on the Alpha. > K > Would anyone be willing to share the mods needed to run POSTACTION on VMS  > 7.3-1 and MultiNet 4.4?  > 	 > Thanks!  > Dana > dana@theworld.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:03:35 -0400 , From: "David Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com>Q Subject: Re: Looking for some DS20e parts, possible trade for other DEC gear or ? / Message-ID: <vcqiia69v3l51d@news.supernews.com>    We have these parts in stock   Rackmount front panel $50 
 (No rack kit)    DS20e CD/Floppy Combo kit $150 500Mhz CPU $499  Hot Swap Sled $50    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:37:49 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)3 Subject: Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. 3 Message-ID: <Nqbza.11924$AS6.158711@news.chello.at>   u In article <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA685456A@tahiti.tinuk.com>, "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> writes: ? >I see the following in an output file from a DIAGNOSE command;   ' What DECevent version ? V3.4 or older ? & What hardware ? Too new for DECevent ?   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:17:05 +0100 - From: "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> 3 Subject: RE: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. E Message-ID: <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA685456D@tahiti.tinuk.com>    $ diag/interact   
 DECevent V3.3  DIA>   $ a=3Df$getsyi("HW_NAME")  $ show sym a   A =3D "AlphaServer ES40"   Is that box too new?  = I'll have to chase up a more recent version of DECevent then?    Cheers   Steve S    > -----Original Message-----B > From: Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER [mailto:peter@langstoeger.at]=20 > Sent: 22 May 2003 22:38  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 5 > Subject: Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.  >=20 >=20 > In article=20 ? > <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA685456A@tahiti.tinuk.com>,=20 1 > "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> writes: A > >I see the following in an output file from a DIAGNOSE command;  >=20) > What DECevent version ? V3.4 or older ? ( > What hardware ? Too new for DECevent ? >=20 > --=20  > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist  > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist >=20 >=20 >=20   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:15:04 +0100 * From: "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net>3 Subject: Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. 4 Message-ID: <bajj5g$ialq$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>  C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message - news:Nqbza.11924$AS6.158711@news.chello.at... G > In article <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA685456A@tahiti.tinuk.com>, / "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> writes: A > >I see the following in an output file from a DIAGNOSE command;  > ) > What DECevent version ? V3.4 or older ? ( > What hardware ? Too new for DECevent ? >   = The errorlog entry header Steve included shows it to be V3.3.   , **** V3.3  ********************* ENTRY 26180   What is the hardware ?H If it is a machine with IDE ports it could posibly be the idle DQA ports" reporting initialisation complete.  F I concur that it needs either a later version of DECevent, or possibly Compaq Analyse.      -- John Travell  VMS crashdump expertise for hire john@travell.uk.net  http://www.travell.uk.net/       --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 13/05/2003    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 00:04:40 +0100 * From: "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net>3 Subject: Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. 4 Message-ID: <bajl60$ih5l$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>  : > "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> wrote in messageA > news:91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA685456D@tahiti.tinuk.com...  > $ diag/interact  >  > DECevent V3.3  > DIA> >  > $ a=f$getsyi("HW_NAME")  > $ show sym a >   A = "AlphaServer ES40" >  > Is that box too new? > ? > I'll have to chase up a more recent version of DECevent then?   0 Nope, An ES40 is EV6, it needs Compaq Analyse...; http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/svctools/webes/index.html D  which appears to be on the 'system tools' CD, but not available for	 download.i   -- John Travell  VMS crashdump expertise for hire john@travell.uk.neti http://www.travell.uk.net/           --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 14/05/20031   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:58:25 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)3 Subject: RE: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.e3 Message-ID: <lCcza.13646$AS6.168074@news.chello.at>   u In article <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA685456D@tahiti.tinuk.com>, "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> writes:h >$ diag/interact >v >DECevent V3.3 >DIA>i   >$ a=f$getsyi("HW_NAME")
 >$ show sym ao >  A = "AlphaServer ES40"E >  >Is that box too new?a   It surely is not old gear ;-)e  > >I'll have to chase up a more recent version of DECevent then?  @ ftp://ftp.service.digital.com/private/svctools/deceventV34/docs/F ftp://ftp.service.digital.com/private/svctools/deceventV34/ovms-alpha/D ftp://ftp.service.digital.com/private/svctools/deceventV34/ovms-vax/   -- e Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialistw E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 20:24:33 +0200B From: holitska_a@cut-it-outludens.elte.hu (Holi - Holitska Andrs) Subject: Overclocking VAXend! Message-ID: <cnKvfv80cZ1W@ludens>A   Hi Everyone!  ;   I was just wondering... anybody around here, who has done    some overclocking on VAXen?A  :   I know, I know. It's dangerous, and unsupported, but now:   that summer is comming I might have some spare time, and7   I tought why not power-up one of my VLC-s if possibleN2   (or some other, not so new VAX) - poor thing. :D  8   Has anyone done/tried doing something similar? If yes,   what was the result?  C   Any info apprechiated (yikes, my english needs some power-up too)e   Thanks, regards: <Holi>i   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 14:53:56 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXenn? Message-ID: <OF2F48A8F4.173A4F5C-ON85256D2E.0067BBF1@metso.com>-    See:  http://www.nemonixinc.com/  $ Disclaimer:  no beneficial interest.    H From:  holitska_a@cut-it-outludens.elte.hu (Holi - Holitska Andr=E1s) o= nD        05/22/2003 02:24 PM  F Please respond to holitska_a@cut-it-outludens.elte.hu (Holi - Holitska        Andr=E1s)   To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com cc:)   Subject:    Overclocking VAXen     Hi Everyone!  ;   I was just wondering... anybody around here, who has done    some overclocking on VAXen?   :   I know, I know. It's dangerous, and unsupported, but now:   that summer is comming I might have some spare time, and7   I tought why not power-up one of my VLC-s if possiblee2   (or some other, not so new VAX) - poor thing. :D  8   Has anyone done/tried doing something similar? If yes,   what was the result?  C   Any info apprechiated (yikes, my english needs some power-up too).   Thanks, regards: <Holi>j         =t   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:26:31 -0400o* From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com> Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXens- Message-ID: <3ECCEC27.6566.640AEB1@localhost>s  8 On 22 May 2003 at 20:24, Holi - Holitska Andr=E1s wrote:= >   I was just wondering... anybody around here, who has donee >   some overclocking on VAXen?e  F If you're running a production system, and need more performance, you E can get there with a fast PC and CHARON-VAX [shameless plug alert].  o, (I just happen to be a CHARON-VAX reseller.)  C One customer recently told me that it his weekend batch processing a, went from 4 hours on a real VAX to 1/2 hour.  ? Of course, with a VLC being like 1/2 VUP, anything would be an . improvement.  :)  
 --Stan Quaylea Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363  Fax: +1 614 868-167121 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147l= Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.coms   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 15:36:14 -04003* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXenc( Message-ID: <3ECD26AD.513AA6D@istop.com>   <dream mode on>o  F Could I overclock my all mighty microvax II to 1ghz if I poured liquid2 nitrogen on the chip ? :-) :-0 :0) :-) :-) :-) :-)  N Now, imagine if an overclocked microvax II could beat IA64 in benchmarks. What a sweet revenge that would be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 14:38:59 -0500 2 From: "Stuart Johnson" <ssj152 AT charter DOT net> Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXen / Message-ID: <vcq9rvq7qoed23@corp.supernews.com>S  ) <norm.raphael@metso.com> wrote in message09 news:OF2F48A8F4.173A4F5C-ON85256D2E.0067BBF1@metso.com...       See:  http://www.nemonixinc.com/  $ Disclaimer:  no beneficial interest.   <SNIP>L I can't help with homegrown overclocking, but I can tell you something about a commercial product.   L I have a pair of 4000-90's and a pair of 4000-105A's that have been upgradedI by Nemonix. The 4000-90's have a memory expansion (up to 512mb) and cacheoH upgrade (2X as I recall) + CPU overclock. My opinion is that the biggestL boost in the upgrade is the cache component. The net effect is that they canL do about 2X as much work in the same amount of time! This does NOT mean thatJ the CPU is 2X faster; it means that jobs complete faster. There is more to& workload performance than CPU speed...  J The 4000-105A's have the same upgrades (memory, cache, cpu) as well as theK addition of a fast/wide/differential SCSI adapter. There is also a 100BaseTaJ adapter on the SCSI card, but it is not enabled as that was not purchased.H These machines were capable of running 150+ jobs continuously before theG upgrade. After the upgrade they easily ran over 200. We had experiencedmI problems with our systems having outgrown the 4000-105A CPU - we had jobs4J that HAD to run every hour and some hours we found ourselves unable to getK all the work done because of CPU loading and memory constraints (a standard L 4000-105A can only use 128mb). We did the upgrade and installed 256mb of RAMI and were VERY impressed with the results. Our application was a real-time K SCADA control system that enabled up to operate a natural gas pipeline with J 10,000 miles of pipe spread over 1,000 miles or so - the entire southeast.  I These systems have been retired as my (previous) employer has moved to an C Alpha based solution and I have them as part of my Classic Computer  Collection. Nice toys!  L In case anyone wonders I do not work for or have a relationship with NemonixD (www.nemonixinc.com). According to their web site these upgrades are currently available.   Stuart Johnson   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:33:12 -0500t/ From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com>p Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXenh3 Message-ID: <3ECD5028.1BCEF07E@applied-synergy.com>e   "Holi - Holitska Andrs" wrote:o >  > Hi Everyone! > = >   I was just wondering... anybody around here, who has donee >   some overclocking on VAXen?t > < >   I know, I know. It's dangerous, and unsupported, but now< >   that summer is comming I might have some spare time, and9 >   I tought why not power-up one of my VLC-s if possible 4 >   (or some other, not so new VAX) - poor thing. :D > : >   Has anyone done/tried doing something similar? If yes, >   what was the result? > E >   Any info apprechiated (yikes, my english needs some power-up too)6 >  > Thanks, regards: <Holi>-  E I don't know if it really counts as overclocking, but some VAXstationiF 3100-30/40s (~2.7 VUPS) can be converted to VAXstation 3100-38/48s (~4 VUPS).  @ To do this, locate the 44MHz crystal.  Replace this with a 66MHzG crystal.  There is also a jumper (wait state?) that must be changed.  I G don't remember exactly where it was, but it was near one of the cornerst
 of the board.k  F Disclaimer:  Do this at your own risk.  Attempting these modificationsF may turn your computer into a non-computer.  These instructions may orH may not have anything to do with reality, but are probably the result of a halucination.     H Does anyone know how to change a VAXstation 4000-90 to a -90A? (or -90B, -90C, etc.  <grin>)c  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------l$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-3074o   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:56:52 -0400s- From: "Richard Tomkins" <tomkinsr@@istop.com>- Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXen 2 Message-ID: <4efza.144$yK4.142101658@news.nnrp.ca>  
 Don't bother.R  H We didn't do a lot of binning on our semiconductor lines, production was" pretty consistent, batch to batch.  D We made faster CPU's mostly by design and not by clock enahncements.   rttA   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:45:28 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXen ) Message-ID: <3ECD9956.F692A6DC@istop.com>l   Richard Tomkins wrote:F > We made faster CPU's mostly by design and not by clock enahncements.  E But wasn't Digital fairly conservative with the speeds of its CPUs ? o  M For instance, for the microvax II, would Digital have pushed the limit of thepG chip's speeds, or would it have been satisfied with a .9 VUP speed thatl' wouldn't compete against bigger vaxes ?h   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:09:24 -0500i1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>." Subject: Re: Physical Device Names& Message-ID: <3ECD90E4.A101D4D@fsi.net>   Sean Yazdani wrote:e > F > I am planning to restore an image backup of one server onto another.F > The tape drive on one is MKA400 and on the other is MKB400. I assumeF > the device name will retain its original name after the restore ? Is< > there a way to change the device name ? via the firmware ?  : Device names are based on the physical configuration only.   -- a David J. Dachteraa dba DJE SystemsE http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 13:50:18 -0400t* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>" Subject: Re: Portents of VMS death) Message-ID: <3ECD0DD6.E096C77A@istop.com>m   warren sander wrote:N > off the hp.com home page. select 'software tools' and then OpenVMS. (btw theN > 'software tools' name is just some testing that's being done to help fix theJ > problem that 95% of the folks who hit 'software' type links off the home > page are looking for drivers a  , How about the www.hp.com  front page having:   	Platforms:m	 		Windowsl 		Windows-CE/Pocket PC 		HP-UXn 		Linux  		Tandem Non Stop  		VMSt  
 	Hardware:
 		Palmtops 		Personal Computers 		Personal printersD 		Enterprise printers ) 		Small business servers (Windows, Linux)  		Enterprise servers 			PA-RISC  (Hp-ux)a 			IA64  (???) 			Alpha (VMS, Tru64)- 			MIPS ( Tandem NSK)     L It would greatly simplyfy the home page and provide far mroe direct links to get people to what they need.D  G And guess what, it would also provide some advertising for the types ofoL systems HP sells since someone coming in for windows software would also see$ that HP supports linux, VMS etc etc.   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 14:53:37 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)s" Subject: Re: Reading an ASCII File3 Message-ID: <GUkmt60pG$lo@eisner.encompasserve.org>2  b In article <baj0es$9vrl$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>, "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> writes: > LOL !S  A What's so funny ?  There was nothing in the request/assignment toOD say one had to _do_ anything with the file contents, just read them.  A There was nothing in the request/assignment regarding _what_ filem: was to be read, so I chose one that is likely to be there.  > > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> schreef in bericht/ > news:l$C6wYaPzIVZ@eisner.encompasserve.org...e@ >> In article <d6405963.0305211309.64106693@posting.google.com>,1 > maneesh_jain@hotmail.com (Maneesh Jain) writes:  >>J >> > In one of my programs, I need to read an ASCII File. Can someone give0 >> > me a sample program that does this? Thanks. >>  >>     with TEXT_IO;use TEXT_IO; >>     procedure DEMO is >> >>         MY_FILE : FILE_TYPE;a* >>         BUFFER : STRING ( 1 .. 32767 ); >>         LAST : NATURAL; >> >>     begin >>* >>         TEXT_IO.OPEN ( FILE => MY_FILE,C >>                        NAME => SYS$MANAGER:SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM" );  >>9 >>         while not END_OF_FILE ( FILE => MY_FILE ) loopn2 >>             TEXT_IO.GET_LINE ( FILE => MY_FILE,1 >>                                ITEM => BUFFER, 1 >>                                LAST => LAST );o >>         end loop; >> >>     end DEMO; >  -- .N ==============================================================================I The Boulder Pledge: "Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything.J      offered to me as the result of an unsolicited email message. Nor willI      I forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warningssH      to large numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival      of the online community."N ==============================================================================   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 19:56:07 -0400% From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@glug.org> " Subject: Re: Reading an ASCII File( Message-ID: <7gy90y359k.fsf@gnufans.net>  / Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:   ) >         BUFFER : STRING ( 1 .. 32767 );p  5 was this limit (2^15-1) chosen arbitrarily or does it . reflect some deep vms magic/wisdom/experience?  5 on a related note, the C runtime `write' seems to addL4 a newline if the buffer does not already end w/ one.5 any quick hints on how to disable this (so that i canH6 use `write' to append arbitrary non-newline-terminated4 bytes to a file (in order))?  the current workaround5 is to keep a static buffer for carryover bytes (thoses8 past the last newline) and flush that when done looping,7 in conjunction w/ (IMHO wasteful) data motion to handler" carryover bytes while in the loop.   thir   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:50:06 -0500i' From: Chris Olive <nospam@raytheon.com> " Subject: Re: Reading an ASCII File> Message-ID: <Hmdza.3381$c6.3274@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com>   Maneesh Jain wrote:  > Hi,- > G > In one of my programs, I need to read an ASCII File. Can someone given- > me a sample program that does this? Thanks.:  F This question reminds me of the time someone asked for a routine that I would execute Unix commands on a VMS box, and Ehud Gavron's very popular aC and portable EXEC.MAR grew out of that.  I think this very general  H question deserves a very general routine to do exactly this: read ASCII  files.  H I think this will serve your purposes very well.  It is portable across H VMS platforms and I stress tested this myself on several ASCII files on = my system and it works every single time -- no fuss, no muss:     < $ dbg = "''f$verify( f$integer( f$trnlnm( "F$VERIFY" ) ) )'" $!++@ $! Simple, pain-free, PORTABLE reading of any ASCII file on VMS. $!-- $n4 $!-- Make sure Ehud Gavron's EXEC is NOT defined! -- $r $ EXEC = " " $  $!-- Set transfers --l $ 7 $ CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_1[0,32] = %x4E45504F ! CLI Transfer 1/7 $ CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_2[0,32] = %x54414420 ! CLI Transfer 2f $y7 $ CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_3[0,32] = %x44414552 ! CLI Transfer 3E7 $ CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_4[0,32] = %x444E452F ! CLI Transfer 4a7 $ CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_5[0,32] = %x444E453D ! CLI Transfer 5d7 $ CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_6[0,32] = %x534F4C43 ! CLI Transfer 6E $y" $!-- Setup portable call blocks -- $ 6 $ CALL_BLOCK_1 = CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_1 + CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_26 $ CALL_BLOCK_2 = CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_3 + CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_46 $ CALL_BLOCK_2 = CALL_BLOCK_2      + CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_56 $ CALL_BLOCK_2 = CALL_BLOCK_2      + CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_26 $ CALL_BLOCK_3 = CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_6 + CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_2 $i $!-- Fixup exit address -- $n2 $ CLI$EXIT_ADDRESS = CLI$TRA_ADDRESS_5 - "=" + "_" $n $!-- Get file name --  $  $ file = p1 . $ if (file .eqs. "") then inquire file "_File"0 $ if (file .eqs. "") then goto 'CLI$EXIT_ADDRESS $ 8 $!-- Read thru **any** ASCII file (totally portable!) -- $ & $ on error then goto 'CLI$EXIT_ADDRESS $e $ EXEC 'CALL_BLOCK_1 'file $ while: $    EXEC 'CALL_BLOCK_2 buffer $    goto whilen $ end: $ EXEC 'CALL_BLOCK_3 $   $!-- Done reading entire file -- $   $ end_: exit 1+0*f$verify( dbg )    G (1) If you set this up as a symbolized command, you can read any ASCII a file on your system like this:  $ $! Name the above file "RDASCII.COM"' $ RDASC*II :== @disk:[directory]RDASCIIs $ RDASCII <any-ASCII-filename>  < (2) If you want to *watch* it *read* the file, just do this:   $ DEFINE/NOLOG F$VERIFY 1o# $ RDASCII RDASCII.COM ! For exampleI  6 Very satisfying to see the reads in action...!  Enjoy!   Chrise -----  Chris Olivei Systems Consultant' Raytheon Technical Services Corporationi Indianapolis, IN  * email: olivec(AT)indy(DOT)raytheon(DOT)com   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 21:34:11 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)t" Subject: Re: Reading an ASCII File3 Message-ID: <x8gw1n3oePDI@eisner.encompasserve.org>-  P In article <7gy90y359k.fsf@gnufans.net>, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@glug.org> writes:1 > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:m > * >>         BUFFER : STRING ( 1 .. 32767 ); > 7 > was this limit (2^15-1) chosen arbitrarily or does itk0 > reflect some deep vms magic/wisdom/experience?  C There is an internal limit in RMS that is slightly less that 32767,d@ by an amount that varies according to file type.  That buffer is> big enough for anything RMS can hand you.  It could be trimmedC if it were known the file had different limits, but for a newsgroup0( post that did not seem worth the effort.  7 > on a related note, the C runtime `write' seems to add1  = To some of us, the C runtime does not seem at all related :-)R   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:57:55 -050021 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>o" Subject: Re: Reading an ASCII File' Message-ID: <3ECD8E33.645EC94B@fsi.net>r   Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote:2 > 1 > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:e > + > >         BUFFER : STRING ( 1 .. 32767 );a > 7 > was this limit (2^15-1) chosen arbitrarily or does itt0 > reflect some deep vms magic/wisdom/experience?  G RMS's length attribute (sequential variable files) is a signed two-bytetG word integer. The maximum signed value that can be expressed in 31 bitsnE (32nd is the sign bit) is 32767. Therefore, the maximum record length-2 for RMS is 32767 (including the length attribute).   --   David J. Dachterai dba DJE Systemsn http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 22:00:40 -0500o1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> " Subject: Re: Reading an ASCII File' Message-ID: <3ECD8ED8.28B7E03F@fsi.net>    Chris Olive wrote: > [snip]8 > Very satisfying to see the reads in action...!  Enjoy!  A What was that recent post about folks with too much time on their 	 hands...?e   -- 6 David J. Dachterao dba DJE Systemsm http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/i   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 15:45:01 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)< Subject: Re: Sparky is losing the race Andrew ... and badly!= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0305221445.250761df@posting.google.com>    Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote in message news:<bainsk$sni$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>...  > JF Mezei wrote:r > > A question to Andrew:c > > F > > Mr Andrew, I woudl be interested in your opinion(s) on IBM's Power  > > architecture and its future. > >  >  > N > > With Apple rumoured to embrace it for its MACos X (getting into the 64 bitR > > arena), is it  sign that Power will break out of IBM and start to be used more > > widely ? > > N > > Will Power take the high end, while Hammer takes the low end of the server8 > > markets, squeezing Sparc and IA64 into tight spots ? > D > Power is just a CPU. It isn't by itself going to take the high end$ > of anything anymore than IA-64 is. > C > In order for Power to succeed at the high end IBM need to balance.: > CPU with Interconnect, I/O and of course they need apps. > D > Despite what people on this group may think things actually havn'tC > gone that well for Power because IBM has missed a few bits of thee	 > jigsaw.@ > C > At the high end currently the P690 hampered by rather limited I/OsC > bandwidth. It has lots of PCI slots which IBM would prefer you toh1 > concentrate on but limited bandwidth into them.I > F > The P690 backplane has a bandwidth of ~20 GB/s (their faster STREAMSE > result uses Memory Affinity which gives you some local access) thisd > isn't that fast either.d > G > And then you get to the achilles heal(s) of the P690 software supporte > and partitioning.a > G > Unlike Solaris Domains and HP's equivalent LPARS IBM's only mechanism:C > for partioning P690's is not performance neutral, you can take up * > to a 40% performance hit for using them. > I > 3rd party ISV support for AIX 5.1/5.2 is poor and there are some horridoD > support dependencies because some apps can only run on a 32bit AIXJ > kernel because IBM changed the 32/64 bit mixed mode support in 5.x. ThatD > and it being very late has led to a lot of holes in IBM's software > portfolio. > D > Finally Power itself may not be that quick, comparing it to IA-64,? > SPARC or Alpha when single CPU power benchmarks are done with-E > 7/8ths of the CPUs in an MCM module turned of so that the remaining F > CPU has 8x the cache is fun from a benchmarking standpoint but givesD > you no idea whatsoever as to the relative performance of each CPU. > F > That said IBM are committed to Power and they are unlikely to switchD > to IA-64, Power at the moment gives them a common platform for AIXI > and OS400 which is competitive and which because it shares one platformo( > gives them usefull economies of scale. > E > Opteron unlikely to squeeze IA-64 at the high end because AMD don't)E > have the design wins. What is more likely is that Opteron will kill D > IA-64 by forcing Intel to produce an x86-64 CPU because Opteron is1 > killing Intel at the low end in the x86 market.i > A > All the vendors are being killed (Sun,Intel,IBM,AMD etc) by theeA > growing gap between single threaded CPU performance and memory.e > B > Sun currently has a plan to fix this (CMT) which if it comes offA > will cause all of the other vendors in the low end space a hugelD > headache. It remains to be seen if the other vendors are similarly	 > placed.M > 	 > regardsp > Andrew Harrisoni  = sounds nice Andrew, except the part about itanium ... itaniume9 in a few years is about to get an EV8-9 facelift and thent, LOOKOUT!  You can read all about it here ...  ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9622   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 15:47:17 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)< Subject: Re: Sparky is losing the race Andrew ... and badly!= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0305221447.1932235a@posting.google.com>v   Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote in message news:<bainsk$sni$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>...e > D > Finally Power itself may not be that quick, comparing it to IA-64,? > SPARC or Alpha when single CPU power benchmarks are done with E > 7/8ths of the CPUs in an MCM module turned of so that the remaininghF > CPU has 8x the cache is fun from a benchmarking standpoint but givesD > you no idea whatsoever as to the relative performance of each CPU. > F > That said IBM are committed to Power and they are unlikely to switchD > to IA-64, Power at the moment gives them a common platform for AIXI > and OS400 which is competitive and which because it shares one platform ( > gives them usefull economies of scale. > E > Opteron unlikely to squeeze IA-64 at the high end because AMD don'tmE > have the design wins. What is more likely is that Opteron will killnD > IA-64 by forcing Intel to produce an x86-64 CPU because Opteron is1 > killing Intel at the low end in the x86 market.n > A > All the vendors are being killed (Sun,Intel,IBM,AMD etc) by themA > growing gap between single threaded CPU performance and memory.i > B > Sun currently has a plan to fix this (CMT) which if it comes offA > will cause all of the other vendors in the low end space a hugelD > headache. It remains to be seen if the other vendors are similarly	 > placed.  > 	 > regards  > Andrew Harrisonh  ? sounds nice Andrew, except the part about Itanium, because in ar< few years Itanium will be getting an EV8-9 facelift and then4 LOOKOUT!  You forgot the alpha team is at intel now!" You can read all about it here ...  ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9622   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 18:21:25 +0000 (UTC)o7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)a4 Subject: Re: system fan failure in Alphaserver 4100.( Message-ID: <baj4f5$7tb$2@pcls4.std.com>  * Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> writes:  % >rifepe@langran.iem.csic.espam wrote:v >> rB >> One of the system fan of our AlphaServer 4100 has began to fail? >> and  even HP Spain is having problems to find a replacement.n   >A fan's a fan.e  6 >size, depth, voltage, rotation direction, connectors.  9 >(If the sizes match, the CFM shifted should be similar).-  B Alphaserver 4100s have sensors in the fans to make sure they work.D (At least on the little ones on the CPU heatsinks).  The system willC physically power off if it senses that a fan has failed.  They havelC 3 wires, and may be harder to find.  I just checked, I don't see a a! manufacturer name on the CPU fan.9   -Miked   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 17:47:28 GMTe2 From: "frank brown" <frank.brown@ci.seattle.wa.us>& Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit1 Message-ID: <Q28za.37$gY1.5052@news-west.eli.net>t  = "frank brown" <frank.brown@ci.seattle.wa.us> wrote in message + news:VVNya.28$gY1.3694@news-west.eli.net...eJ > I get error SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV when entering the following interactive DCL: >  > $ submit/noprint testsub.com > ...eF Thanks everyone who replied to this. The problem was that the OPERATORH account didn't have permission to create the (implicit, unspecified) logG file that SUBMIT by default generates.  Using SUBMIT/NOLOG works like aa charm.   -Frank   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:49:49 +0200r4 From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>& Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit& Message-ID: <3ECD29DD.3050904@Free.fr>   John Vottero wrote:aI > OPERATOR is the username that the batch job is running under.  When the M > batch job starts a new version of the .LOG file must be created which meansoL > that the OPERATOR account, with default privileges, must have write accessN > to the most recent version of the .LOG file.  If the .LOG file has a versionN > limit and that limit has been reached, then OPERATOR must have delete access > to the oldest version.  M It is not the log file which (should or not) have a version limit, it is the nO directory in which the file(s) is(are) located (see $ HELP CREATE/DIR/VERSION).o  K Anyway, this is NOT normal behaviour. VMS allows files to be purged by the aP operator (or by a housekeeping task). No version limit should EVER be set up in D a LOG directory (to me). This makes operations debugging impossible.  B Please remove the version limit in the OPERATOR default directory.  J > The new LOG is is not present because the oldest version of the LOG file > could not be deleted.,  P How can you say that? What tells you that the LOG file that you have is not the J latest one? Are there error messages in this log file? I run every nite a > housekeeping job which does (among other tasks) the following:   ../..-= $ if f$search ("errors.dat") .nes. "" then dele_ errors.dat;*d/ $ search/out=errors.dat *.log "-W-","-E-","-F-"o3 $ mail/subj="errors in log files" errors.dat systemE ../..o  ? > OPERATOR is the account that the batch job was running under.h  
 Ok. 2 points.k   D.   ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 16:23:08 -0700, From: JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow)& Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit= Message-ID: <4b6ec350.0305221523.1b160c0c@posting.google.com>e  @ David Beatty <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com> wrote in message >  > David R. BeattyN  E A good security policy should discourage the use of SYSTEM, OPERATOR,67 ADMINISTRATOR , OPERATOR, FIELD  :-)  ... as usernames.vA It should be okay to use those names for "roles" and identifiers.e
 (Hi, Dave)   Jim Strehlow OpenVMS Systems Manager  Data911l Alameda, CAh   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 20:50:00 -0400r% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>l& Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit/ Message-ID: <vcqs1prvnd7d4d@news.supernews.com>a  A "Didier Morandi" <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> wrote in message7  news:3ECD29DD.3050904@Free.fr... > John Vottero wrote: K > > OPERATOR is the username that the batch job is running under.  When the6I > > batch job starts a new version of the .LOG file must be created whiche means.G > > that the OPERATOR account, with default privileges, must have writer accessH > > to the most recent version of the .LOG file.  If the .LOG file has a versionhI > > limit and that limit has been reached, then OPERATOR must have deleteE access > > to the oldest version. >eJ > It is not the log file which (should or not) have a version limit, it is theR< > directory in which the file(s) is(are) located (see $ HELP CREATE/DIR/VERSION). >7  L The version limit of a directory establishes a default version limit for newH files created in that directory.  Putting a version limit on a directoryI does nothing to the files that are already in the directory.  (See $ HELPh CREATE/DIR/VERSION)  :)e  L > Anyway, this is NOT normal behaviour. VMS allows files to be purged by theK > operator (or by a housekeeping task). No version limit should EVER be set  up in F > a LOG directory (to me). This makes operations debugging impossible. >-D > Please remove the version limit in the OPERATOR default directory. >"  J That would be one way to fix the problem but, you would have to remove the! version limit from the files too.7  G I agree that version limits on .LOG files are probably not a good idea.eK Version limit cause this problem and, if you are trying to run the same job1C more than once you job limit is the version limit.  Also, importanteF information can be lost becuase a log file is deleted before it can be checked.  L > > The new LOG is is not present because the oldest version of the LOG file > > could not be deleted.e >?I > How can you say that? What tells you that the LOG file that you have is* not the*K > latest one? Are there error messages in this log file? I run every nite ae@ > housekeeping job which does (among other tasks) the following: >t  I You can tell because all versions of the log file were created before thev batch job was submitted.   > ../.. ? > $ if f$search ("errors.dat") .nes. "" then dele_ errors.dat;*l1 > $ search/out=errors.dat *.log "-W-","-E-","-F-"u5 > $ mail/subj="errors in log files" errors.dat systemt > ../..y >mA > > OPERATOR is the account that the batch job was running under.- >l > Ok. 2 points.2 >    I think I deserve extra credit!    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:51:57 -0500l1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> & Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit' Message-ID: <3ECD8CCD.6D48CF4D@fsi.net>e   JF Mezei wrote:r >  > Suggestions: > N > do a SHOW ENTRY/FULL to get both ethe submitted .COM file fill spec, as well% > as the log file full specification.   H Won't be there unless /LOG was specified on the SUBMIT command, and then4 only an expansion of the portion stated will appear.   -- e David J. DachteraD dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/d   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 21:53:32 -0500f1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>x& Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV on submit' Message-ID: <3ECD8D2C.C8C8C763@fsi.net>    frank brown wrote: > ? > "frank brown" <frank.brown@ci.seattle.wa.us> wrote in messageo- > news:VVNya.28$gY1.3694@news-west.eli.net...7L > > I get error SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV when entering the following interactive DCL: > >   > > $ submit/noprint testsub.com > > ....H > Thanks everyone who replied to this. The problem was that the OPERATORJ > account didn't have permission to create the (implicit, unspecified) log( > file that SUBMIT by default generates.  ) Did you figure out why so you can fix it?r   -- x David J. Dachterad dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/I   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 00:51:13 GMTh+ From: Jeff Cameron <JCam90502@jcameron.com>?Y Subject: Re: Tool to display quotas used and limits (was Re: prod install	hung - help plei2 Message-ID: <BAF2BE8F.8B70%JCam90502@jcameron.com>  K On 5/22/03 10:25 AM, in article at1qcvop637memk8plgnalu7cnueukk56h@4ax.com,e) "David M Smith" <dsmit115@csc.com> wrote:   P > On Wed, 21 May 2003 09:30:11 +0100, Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> > wrote: > G >> Looked at the quotas of the offending process with a DCL procedure I2 >> have: all appear OK.  >> sI >> PID 202819D2 prc SYSTEM user SYSTEM node EQUUS 21-MAY-2003 09:25:00.24n< >> Image: $2$DKB100:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]PCSI$MAIN.EXE;14 >> EQUUS   AST BIO    Byt DIO  Enq Fil   Page TQ Prc4 >> Limit   250 150 165136 150 3072 300 300000 50  204 >> Avail   247 150 165136 150 3072 297 292160 50  20J >> WSsz = 12944 quo = 16288 ext = 2000000 pk = 8528 auth = 16288 authext =
 >> 2000000J >> Login: 20-MAY-2003 09:02:36.96; CPU time 1.96; VirtPeak = 175200; WSdef	 >> = 8144n > O > Chris, could I ask what you used to produce the output above? If it's a smallo= > command procedure, can you post a copy or refer me? Thanks.hK > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- K > David M. Smith 302.391.8533                       dsmit115 at csc dot com K > Computer Sciences Corporation     (Opinions are those of the writer only)eK > -------------------------------------------------------------------------r    % $! VVMTI1::U$D00:[KRUZICKI] QUOTA.COMo $!E $! ------------------------------------------------------------------d $!D $! This command file prompts the user for a process ID, and displaysE $! information about that process, including quotas, remaining quotasnC $! Image activations, Pagefile usage aproximations, page faults andwJ $! process state.  Any quota that falls below 50% (see variable THRESHOLD)& $! will be highlighted in the display. $!E $! ------------------------------------------------------------------r $ on control_y then exit $ on error then exit $ on warning then exit $ margin       = "   " $ gap          = " |   " $ threshold    = 50, $ bar_line     = f$fao("!80*-")  $ blank_line   = f$fao("!80* ")i9 $ margin_line  = margin+f$fao("!36* ")+"|"+f$fao("!10* ") 6 $ heading      = "Resource    Unused   Quota %Remain "
 $ esc[0,8]=27: $ start_screen = "''esc'"+"[2J"u" $ cursor_dwell = "''esc'"+"[21;0H" $ highlight    = "''esc'"+"[7m"  $ lights_off   = "''esc'"+"[0m"s $ ws = "write sys$output",D $ if p1 .EQS. "" then inquire/nopunc p1 "Please enter process id : " $ pid          = p1d= $ xyzxyz = f$getjpi(pid,"USERNAME") ! catches if PID is validr  $ on control_y then goto the_end $ on error then goto the_end $ on warning then goto the_end $ ws start_screen] $!L $! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- $!      START MAIN PROGRAML $! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- $! $START_NEW_DISPLAY: 
 $ esc[0,8]=27b $ ws "''esc'[0;0H''bar_line'"t& $ ws " PROCESS MONITOR"+f$fao("!52* ") $ ws blank_line C $ ws "''margin'       Process Name ''f$getjpi(pid,""PRCNAM"")'" + -r    "           Process Id ''pid'"1 $ ws "''margin'       Images Invoked so far " + -h=   f$fao("!#(#AS)",1,17,"''f$getjpi(pid,""IMAGECOUNT"")'") + - /      "Username   ''f$getjpi(pid,""USERNAME"")'"< $ ws blank_linesD $ ws "Current image "+f$fao("!#(#AS)",1,60,f$getjpi(pid,"IMAGNAME")) $ ws blank_line C $ ws "''margin'       Time ''f$time()'        Process State    "+ -h!   f$getjpi(pid,"STATE") + "     "h: $ ws "''margin'       Page faults "+f$fao("!#(#AS)",1,24,-6      "''f$getjpi(pid,""PAGEFLTS"")'")+"Pages Available "+f$fao("!#(#AS)",1,10,-&      "''f$getjpi(pid,""FREPTECNT"")'")
 $ ws bar_line, $ ws "PROCESS RESOURCE QUOTAS"* $ ws "''margin'''heading'''gap'''heading'" $ ws margin_line& $ set message /nofac/noid/notext/nosev $ call DO_LINE -K        "CPU limit " "CPUTIM" "CPULIM" "+" "Direct I/O" "DIOCNT" "DIOLM" "+"7 $ call DO_LINE -K        "Byte limit" "BYTCNT" "BYTLM"  "+" "Buff I/O  " "BIOCNT" "BIOLM" "+"n $ call DO_LINE -K        "Timer Q   " "TQCNT"  "TQLM"   "+" "File Lim  " "FILCNT" "FILLM" "+"s $ call DO_LINE "Page file " -oK        "PAGFILCNT" "PGFLQUOTA"        "+" "Sub-proc's" "PRCCNT" "PRCLM" "-"  $ call DO_LINE -J        "Enqueue   " "ENQCNT" "ENQLM"  "+" "AST limit" "ASTCNT" "ASTLM" "+"8 $ call DO_LINE "WS Current" "WSSIZE" "WSAUTHEXT" "-" "x" $ set message /fac/id/text/sev $ ws margin_line
 $ ws bar_linec $ ws cursor_dwell  $ wait 00:00:02.00 $ goto START_NEW_DISPLAY $!, $! the place for the cleanup of the terminal	 $THE_END:s $ set message /fac/id/text/sev $ set term/inq $ ws cursor_dwellt $       EXIT $!
 $! thats it ='   $! tJ --------------------------------------------------------------------------< $! SUBROUTINE to catch a quota and put into character string $! tJ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- $! $GET_1_QUOTA: SUBROUTINE $ on error then exit 2 $ on warning then exit 2 $ on control_y then exit 2# $ spaces =    "                   "w% $ if p1 .EQS. "x" then goto its_blank0# $ remain =    f$getjpi(pid,"''p2'") # $ quota  =    f$getjpi(pid,"''p3'")d. $ if p4 .EQS. "-" then remain = quota - remain6 $ if quota  .NE. 0 then percent = (remain * 100)/quotaI $ remain  = f$extract(0,8-F$length("''remain'") ,"''spaces'")+"''remain'"MH $ quota   = f$extract(0,8-F$length("''quota'")  ,"''spaces'")+"''quota'"J $ percent = f$extract(0,5-F$length("''percent'"),"''spaces'")+"''percent'"H $ message = "''p1'" + f$extract(0,10-F$length("''p1'")     ,"''spaces'") $ alarm = lights_off2 $ if percent .LT. threshold then alarm = highlight) $ if quota .EQ. 0 then alarm = lights_off ( $ if quota .EQ. 0 then percent = "  ---" $ return_string == -B   "''alarm'''message'''remain'''quota'''percent'%''lights_off'   " $       EXIT $! $ITS_BLANK: ! $ return_string == f$fao("!37* ")p $       EXIT $ ENDSUBROUTINE. $! $! tJ --------------------------------------------------------------------------4 $!      SUBROUTINE to format two strings into a line $!  J -------------------------------------------------------------------------- $! $DO_LINE: SUBROUTINE $ on error then exit 2 $ on warning then exit 2 $ on control_y then exit 22 $ call GET_1_QUOTA "''p1'" "''p2'" "''p3'" "''p4'" $ text_line = return_string 2 $ call GET_1_QUOTA "''p5'" "''p6'" "''p7'" "''p8'"; $ text_line = "''margin'''text_line'''gap'''return_string'"  $ ws text_line $       EXIT $ ENDSUBROUTINEp   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:15:50 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger); Subject: Re: Where's the equivalent HP sponsorship for VMS?sL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2205031915500001@user-105n8as.dialup.mindspring.com>  1 In article <3ECC5EE3.FE944A9@istop.com>, JF Mezeie" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:    M >But we all know by now that HP has no intentions of pushing VMS. Where there4 >is a will, there is a way.i  9 Speak for yourself, please.  I don't know any such thing.a   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:39:37 -0400r' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>i; Subject: RE: Where's the equivalent HP sponsorship for VMS?cT Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4040ED09A@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   John,y   Re: web site access ..=20   9 Well, to say it surprised me as well would be a bit of an  understatement, but ??  F I will however, pass on your comments to the powers that be (I believe4 other HP OS Cust's have also asked for this as well)   Regardsi  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Co.! Consulting & Integration Servicesc Voice: 613-592-46603 Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: kerryDOTmain@hpDOTcom-     (remove the DOT's and replace with "."'s)m OpenVMS DCL - the original .COMj     > -----Original Message------ > From: John Smith [mailto:a@nonymous.com]=20  > Sent: May 22, 2003 10:22 AMo > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comc= > Subject: Re: Where's the equivalent HP sponsorship for VMS?c >=20 >=20 >=204 > "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> wrote in messageH > news:BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4040ED08F@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcor
 > p.net... > JF - >=20 > Re: access to OS web sites.  >=20H > Official web site policy (at least latest what I heard which was a fewC > months ago) is that all OS home web sites are to be addressed as:o > (somek  > marketing reasons behind this) >=20 http://www.hp.com/go/openvms http://www.hp.com/go/linux http:/www.hp.com/go/tru64unixu http://www.hp.com/go/hpuxl http://www.hp.com/go/nonstop  2 --------------------------------------------------   Kerry,  % Is HP trying to be AOL or Compuserve?-   GO VMS?-   KEYWORD:VMS?   As in "You've got VMS"??  F go/  -  what a stupid concept.  Now ALL people have to know/learn thatD of all vendors on the planet only HP has implemented a stupid way to navigate their site.  E Kerry, just how many prospective new VMS customers do you think tried.D to do www.hp.com/openvms and got a 404 error? The cynical view wouldF be zero, because HP isn't interested in new customers for VMS as it soE effectively demonstrates time and again. How many of them knew of theiD secret code word 'go'? Where was that top-secret info on the HP home! page in blinking Flash/Shockwave?p  C Try www.ibm.com/viavoice and see how effective redirection is done.w Learn from a real company.    D BTW, thanks for the tip. And please find some way of telling all VMS) customers and prospects the same tip. :-)    ------------------------------    Date: 22 May 2003 18:38:33 -0700! From: lhunyi@yahoo.com.sg (MAser) 7 Subject: ZLE data synchronise with different line speedn= Message-ID: <f743c4ca.0305221738.78523c93@posting.google.com>g  ? I was wonder about this ZLE concept from hp. It say that it can E synchronise data. I was thinking if the speed of the line does affecte@ the data input. For example, if I were to use normal phone modemE (v.90) and access & update the database. At the same time, if anothernD person used DSL and access the same data would there be a problem as( now mostly, he will read the older data.  	 Thank yous   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.283 ************************