1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 25 May 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 288       Contents:G Re: (Very) Affordable VMS on older gear (was: "VMS will be around ...") G Re: (Very) Affordable VMS on older gear (was: "VMS will be around ...") . 16 years experience in VMS - looking for a job% Re: advsyscon remote shadow on alpha? + Re: anti-spam on VMS: top 16 spam networks? = Re: AS255 models (was: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem) = Re: AS255 models (was: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem)  Re: HP NAS Head and RMS Files - Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN - Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN - RE: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN - Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN * Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.* RE: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. Re: next VMS versions 3 Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death) 3 Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death) 3 Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death) 3 Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death)  Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Re: Overclocking VAXen Samba for OpenVMS How-To?  Re: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?  RE: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?  Re: Samba for OpenVMS How-To? P RE: Tool to display quotas used and limits (was Re: prod install	hung - help pleP Re: XP1000 diagnostics (was: Re: AS255 models (was: AlphaStation 255/500 power u  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:33:29 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> P Subject: Re: (Very) Affordable VMS on older gear (was: "VMS will be around ...")' Message-ID: <3ED0F059.C8710DFA@fsi.net>    John Smith wrote:  > [snip] > David, > H > Write Gorham asking for assistance in getting HP to make the 'group' a@ > reseller/etc... once you have a reasonable number of favorable > responses toE > your message above. If you don't get help from somebody at Gorham's  > level @ > (even if it is to simply point you to a sympathetic ear in theH > channel/reseller partners group), then you'll know for certain that HP > ain't $ > interested in selling VMS anymore. > B > Q. Do you currently have enough confidence in HP's direction and > commitmentH > to VMS to devote the number of non-billable hours you/others will have > toG > invest in this in hope of eventually having enough profits from sales  > toC > justify the exercise? Recall that you have to eat in the interim.  > C > And don't forget that to be listed as an approved vendor for many  > categoriesC > of customer, ie. gov't, .edu, and even some commercial customers, 	 > they'll C > want to see some business history, financials, and god knows what  > else.   C All valid points, and I appreciate the value of your insight. It is G always important to remember that going forward, obstacles are a given.   G That said, I remind myself every day that successful people devote more F focus to the reasons why something can be done than to the reasons why something can't be done.    F When considering obstacles, successful people ask questions like, "HowF can we overcome this, and perhaps even enjoy the process and/or profit from the experience?"   G To me, the point is not "How many lemons is (x) going to throw at me?", = rather I think of "How can I make money off of the lemonade?"    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:31:22 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>P Subject: Re: (Very) Affordable VMS on older gear (was: "VMS will be around ...")) Message-ID: <3ED0FDEA.3968D90A@istop.com>   E > > And don't forget that to be listed as an approved vendor for many  > > categoriesE > > of customer, ie. gov't, .edu, and even some commercial customers,  > > they'll E > > want to see some business history, financials, and god knows what 	 > > else.   H In this age of IT becoming commodity, is that really necessary anymore ?J Wouldn't that be a case of the VMS sales infrastructure not having evolved with the times ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:53:31 +0200 ; From: "Michael Kalinowski" <Kalinowski-Michael@t-online.de> 7 Subject: 16 years experience in VMS - looking for a job / Message-ID: <baq3kk$nps$00$1@news.t-online.com>    Hi,   L i'm looking for a job (Europe). Due to my knowledge in VMS VAX and ALPHA i'dJ like to work further more in this area. Well MS operating systems are also known. Last i was head of IT. H Someone knows where i can find other forums or newsgroups regarding VMS,, where i can contact potential organizations?   Any help would be appreciated.   Thanks in advance    Michael % email: kalinowski-michael@t-online.de    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 10:15:20 -0400   From: Hal Kuff <kuff@tessco.com>. Subject: Re: advsyscon remote shadow on alpha?? Message-ID: <kuff-C4933A.10151925052003@news-east.giganews.com>   0 In article <00A2054D.E8B0450E@SendSpamHere.ORG>,"  VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  K > In article <kuff-C63589.05122824052003@news-east.giganews.com>, Hal Kuff   > <kuff@tessco.com> writes: 4 > >Is anyone using advsyscon remote shadow on alpha? > $ > Only for possible data corruption. >  > --9 > VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001       > VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
 >             7 >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"      C Can I assume then that the huge license fee these guys want is not  C inline with their performance... I have heard much the same thing.    @ Their sales dude claims that post September 11th they saved the  financial industry.    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:14:03 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) 4 Subject: Re: anti-spam on VMS: top 16 spam networks?( Message-ID: <baqq4b$cgs$1@pcls4.std.com>  E I was a bit surprised how much antispam support the latest version of H TCPIP on VMS (V5.3) now has.  In addition to the blocked networks (only A 16 however) it has support for RBLs and blocking on nonresolvable K originating domains and so forth.  Check out the messages at the bottom of  G the example file at SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYSx.TCPIP$SMTP]SMTP_CONFIG.TEMPLATE  for a laugh.  F A friend has a list of the 16 networks he's using.  If you want I will; ask him for his list.  It is mostly China, Korea etc. nets.    -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 06:52:46 -0400 0 From: "Alan Boyles" <alan.boyles@mindspring.com>F Subject: Re: AS255 models (was: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem)/ Message-ID: <vd180ob168amb5@corp.supernews.com>    Hoff,   L They don't stay up long enough to get any kind of diagnostic,  When you turnL the power switch on the power supply fan and the CPU cooling fan come on forL a half a second or so then cut off and spin down.  Interesting thing is I'veK tried a another power supply and the same thing happened.  The machines are & loaded with all the correct components   Alan  0 "Hoff Hoffman" <hoff@hp.nospam> wrote in message, news:1WXza.1446$2T4.1319@news.cpqcorp.net...C > In article <3EC00882.B9735D00@applied-synergy.com>, Chris Scheers # <chris@applied-synergy.com> writes:  > :Alan Boyles wrote:  > J > :> I have just received 2 AlphaStations (a 255/400 and a 255/500) and am having > :> some problems. ...  > < >   [power-up followed by a power-down after a second or so] > J > :What is an AlphaStation 255/400?  I thought the AlphaStation 255 family > :maxed out at 300MHz.  > H >   Chris is correct.  The AlphaStation 255 models are the EV4-series atF >   233 MHz and again at 300 MHz.  There are no 255/400 and no 255/500K >   series systems in the series -- I would *GUESS* that his is a reference L >   to the AlphaStation 500 series models, and specifically the AlphaStationK >   500 5/400 and AlphaStation 500 5/500, as the boxes are visually similar  >   and the MHz ratings match. > K >   As for the immediate shutdown, I would check the diagnostic displays on K >   the systems, if these are available on the console line or the graphics C >   display -- any beep codes?  Any errors?  Are the fans spinning? 	 Immediate I >   shutdowns are usually power or fan problems, or core hardware faults. H >   Do you have the proper giblets in the box, including memory and PCI? > I >   These boxes could certainly have been stripped in similar fashion, of  >   course.  > I >   It is also possible to get a diagnostic display connected directly to  the K >   motherboard of an AlphaStation 500 series -- but then I am also getting 6 >   rather far ahead in the troubleshooting here, too. > ( >  ---------------------------- #include' <rtfaq.h> ----------------------------- L >       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com, >  --------------------------- pure personal# opinion --------------------------- G >         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 14:59:13 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) F Subject: Re: AS255 models (was: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem)( Message-ID: <baqlo1$7me$1@pcls4.std.com>  % hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:   ; >  [power-up followed by a power-down after a second or so]   J >  As for the immediate shutdown, I would check the diagnostic displays onJ >  the systems, if these are available on the console line or the graphicsM >  display -- any beep codes?  Any errors?  Are the fans spinning?  Immediate J >  shutdowns are usually power or fan problems, or core hardware faults.  G >  Do you have the proper giblets in the box, including memory and PCI?   L >  It is also possible to get a diagnostic display connected directly to theJ >  motherboard of an AlphaStation 500 series -- but then I am also getting5 >  rather far ahead in the troubleshooting here, too.   H Do these boxes use the same power supplies as the Alphastation 200?  TheH power supply on the AS200 failing in this manner (shutting itself off inH a half second) is a common failure on them.  (I have a dead one at home G awaiting a power supply)  There is no diagnostic error corresponding to ) this, the diagnostics barely get started.    -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 10:20:37 -0400   From: Hal Kuff <kuff@tessco.com>& Subject: Re: HP NAS Head and RMS Files? Message-ID: <kuff-B5CA23.10203725052003@news-east.giganews.com>   / In article <3ED01239.15822.128D6639@localhost>, ,  "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com> wrote:  ) > On 24 May 2003 at 4:35, Hal Kuff wrote: I > >    Has anyone tried NFS shares to support RMS index or journal files?  > F > Yes.  You need to specify /ADF=CREATE on the UCX MOUNT command.  It D > will then create a file called .$ADF$<filename> on the NFS server 9 > which holds the VMS file characteristics.  Works slick.  >  > --Stan Quayle  > Quayle Consulting Inc. >  > ----------E > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363  Fax: +1 614 868-1671 3 > 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 ? > Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com  >  >   B Great...!  Have you done anything interesting with RMS Journaling.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 07:31:54 GMT % From: glatisant68@hotmail.com (Floyd) 6 Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN4 Message-ID: <3ed070e2.36797752@news.freeserve.co.uk>  F Is a live read only copy essential at the remote end or do you requireD a usable up to date copy if your source data goes offline? also what controllers are you using?   Floyd   E On Sat, 24 May 2003 04:38:10 -0400, Hal Kuff <kuff@tessco.com> wrote:     J >   Is anyone doing anything similar with live RMS files...(On one end of ! >course - read only on the other)      http://www.technofreak.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 10:19:28 -0400   From: Hal Kuff <kuff@tessco.com>6 Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN? Message-ID: <kuff-9BB1DE.10192825052003@news-east.giganews.com>   4 In article <3ed070e2.36797752@news.freeserve.co.uk>,'  glatisant68@hotmail.com (Floyd) wrote:   H > Is a live read only copy essential at the remote end or do you requireF > a usable up to date copy if your source data goes offline? also what > controllers are you using? >  > Floyd  > G > On Sat, 24 May 2003 04:38:10 -0400, Hal Kuff <kuff@tessco.com> wrote:  >  > L > >   Is anyone doing anything similar with live RMS files...(On one end of # > >course - read only on the other)  >  >  > http://www.technofreak.com    I    Well, we have some very active RMS files.. keeping the files in synch  G would be difficult... but using RMS Journaling and keeping the journal  - files in synch would be doable on a T-3 ....    H    We have HSG-80 and EVA SAN systems... it looksl like the HP NAS head I is the way to go with the tip from Stan Quayle on how to setup the share!    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 10:46:26 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> 6 Subject: RE: Mirroring Files in real time across a WANT Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4040ED0A1@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Hal,    Re: keeping RMS files in sync ..  F Just curious, but have you consider HBVS (host based volume shadowing)  for specific drives in question?  D That is the typical way one keeps files in sync between 2 sites with OpenVMS.   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Co.! Consulting & Integration Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: kerryDOTmain@hpDOTcom-     (remove the DOT's and replace with "."'s)  OpenVMS DCL - the original .COM      > -----Original Message-----, > From: Hal Kuff [mailto:kuff@tessco.com]=20 > Sent: May 25, 2003 10:19 AM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 8 > Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN >=20 >=206 > In article <3ed070e2.36797752@news.freeserve.co.uk>,) >  glatisant68@hotmail.com (Floyd) wrote:  >=20A > > Is a live read only copy essential at the remote end or do=20 
 > you require H > > a usable up to date copy if your source data goes offline? also what > > controllers are you using? > >=20	 > > Floyd  > >=203 > > On Sat, 24 May 2003 04:38:10 -0400, Hal Kuff=20  > <kuff@tessco.com> wrote: > >=20 > >=209 > > >   Is anyone doing anything similar with live RMS=20  > files...(On one end of=20 % > > >course - read only on the other)  > >=20 > >=20 > > http://www.technofreak.com >=20 >=20> >    Well, we have some very active RMS files.. keeping the=20 > files in synch=20 ? > would be difficult... but using RMS Journaling and keeping=20  > the journal=201 > files in synch would be doable on a T-3 ....=20  >=20@ >    We have HSG-80 and EVA SAN systems... it looksl like the=20 > HP NAS head=20= > is the way to go with the tip from Stan Quayle on how to=20  > setup the share! >=20   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:27:50 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>6 Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN) Message-ID: <3ED0FD16.D43432EC@istop.com>    "Main, Kerry" wrote:H > Just curious, but have you consider HBVS (host based volume shadowing)" > for specific drives in question?  L Isn't HBVS restricted to cluster nodes ? If you have unix boxes at the other1 end of the line it wouldn't be that easy to do...   P Also, what is the minimum speed for a link between 2 nodes to maintain cluster ?   ------------------------------   Date: 25 May 03 09:04:42 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 3 Subject: Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. ) Message-ID: <Lkkxi8wCxJbB@elias.decus.ch>   b In article <baorkn$1vuak$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>, "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> writes: > 8 > "Paul Sture" <p_sture@elias.decus.ch> wrote in message% > news:OJzBTdug46nR@elias.decus.ch... K >> In article <Nqbza.11924$AS6.158711@news.chello.at>, peter@langstoeger.at % > (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: J >> > In article <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA685456A@tahiti.tinuk.com>,1 > "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> writes: C >> >>I see the following in an output file from a DIAGNOSE command;  >> >, >> > What DECevent version ? V3.4 or older ?+ >> > What hardware ? Too new for DECevent ?  >> > >>- >> Here's what I found in our kits directory:  >>@ >> DIAA033.A;1             3744/3744     27-JUN-2000 08:42:31.32@ >> DIAA033.B;1             9324/9324     27-JUN-2000 08:42:47.76@ >> DIAA033.C;1            20502/20502    27-JUN-2000 08:43:29.52@ >> DIAA033.D;1            33516/33516    27-JUN-2000 08:45:02.11@ >> DIAA034.A;1             4914/4914     13-JUN-2002 15:14:25.67@ >> DIAA034.B;1             9360/9360     13-JUN-2002 15:14:51.52@ >> DIAA034.C;1            20718/20718    13-JUN-2002 15:15:50.09@ >> DIAA034.D;1            33570/33570    13-JUN-2002 15:18:52.19 >>: >> So 3.3 is definitely too old for the harware concerned. >>' > I said before, and I'll say it again. H > An ES40 is EV6, (or EV6/7) *therefore* you *MUST_HAVE* Compaq Analyse.6 > DECevent *CANNOT* cut the mustard with this machine.J > The *ONLY* EV6 machine that DECevent supports is the GS60/GS140, and theN > only reason for that is that all of the I/O support for this machine already; > exists in DECevent courtesy of the Alphaserver 8200/8400.  > M > I *know* this to be correct, I used to work for the UK Alphaserver hardware 5 > support until they made me redundant last November. L > For an ES40, the only thing DECevent is useful for is errors from good old > fashioned SCSI disks. & > Everything else, use Compaq Analyse. >    Thanks for the clarification.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:08:38 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)3 Subject: RE: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. 3 Message-ID: <qK%za.10583$Kn1.143045@news.chello.at>   u In article <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA6854573@tahiti.tinuk.com>, "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> writes: 0 >>[Compaq Analyze required for EV6/67/7 systems]F >Yes, thanks. This is the sort of thing I should know, but it's one of7 >the things I miss because I just can't keep up now...!    Exactly. Or in other words: H Why is this that one can no longer look at own errors with pure VMS ????   First it was pure VMS.M Then you needed DECevent (downloadable, show err = w/o PAK, analyze = w/ PAK) G Later you needed COMPAQ Analyze (CD with h/w buy and what else, PAKs ?)  Now (at HPQ) you need what ?  N And don't confuse it with the products to connect to the service centers (likeO DSNlink, DIA ?, WIS ?, ...) or the product collections (like AES, WEBES ?, ...)    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:13:16 -0400 * From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com> Subject: Re: next VMS versions. Message-ID: <3ED0892C.3805.145E08E2@localhost>  ' On 25 May 2003 at 1:26, JF Mezei wrote:    > "Stanley F. Quayle" wrote:G > > The roadmap, as recently as 3 weeks ago, shows the VAX version will H > > be 8.2, released at the same time as the Alpha and IA64 8.2 release.L > Not if they simply take 7.2 and rebadge it as "8.2". Consider that VAX-VMSP > doesn't get all of the improvements/changes/additions that Alpha  gets, and myB > impression is that the role of VMS engineers is simply to ensureQ > interoperability of non-evolving VAX software with the evolving Alpha software.   F Check the roadmap yourself -- there are several things that are new.   IIRC, SSH for VAX.  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363  Fax: +1 614 868-1671 1 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 = Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 03:39:24 -0400 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>< Subject: Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death)2 Message-ID: <8oidnRkId_6v7k2jXTWcrg@metrocast.net>  7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:3ED02EEA.9B9BBDB0@istop.com...    ..  8 > I really do not understand why Cuttle is so glorified.  I That's because you just don't listen to information that doesn't fit your I preconceptions.  As I've told you before, Cutler was glorified because he C a) generated enormous amounts of relatively tight, good-performing, H *correct* code in remarkably brief periods of time,  b) had an excellentJ (though not unparalleled) grasp of overall and detailed system design, andJ c) was willing to *manage* the design and development process (capably andH with great attention to detail, though also with a very heavy hand).  InE other words, he got things done uniquely effectively, both by his own L prodigious efforts and by his ability (rough-shod though it was) to organize  and drive the efforts of others.  K That's a combination of attributes I've never seen in any other individual. L There were other people at DEC as smart as Cutler, maybe even a bit smarter,L but none of them (at least whom I knew) also had his drive and productivity.K So while there were a few other people at DEC who also merited being called G 'awesome' in various respects, he still stood out in that select group.    - bill   ------------------------------   Date: 25 May 03 09:40:15 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) < Subject: Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death)) Message-ID: <H4lj5Ghx3MEB@elias.decus.ch>   _ In article <qMOdnfwqZcQmuU2jXTWcpA@metrocast.net>, "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:  <snip>     K > NT probably does have a somewhat closer relationship to VMS than what I'd 5 > write for a record manager today would have to RMS,   J Out of curiosity, what features would you put into a new RMS, and is thereI anything in particular you would drop? As this is a theoretical question, 9 I'm not especially concerned with backwards compatibilty.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 03:19:32 -0400 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>< Subject: Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death)2 Message-ID: <q7icnUa9cIYR802jXTWcqA@metrocast.net>  8 "Rob Young" <young_r@encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:UoZC3TjNQQmZ@eisner.encompasserve.org...    ...   > > Here straighten me out, is Russinovich blowin smoke or what? > @ > http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4494&pg=2  K No, you're just misinterpreting what he says.  He says things like "Most of I NT's lead developers, including VMS's chief architect, came from Digital, D and their background heavily influenced NT's development":  "heavilyG influenced", not "they brought VMS with them."  One example of a fairly H basic mechanism that they did not steal was kernel threads:  NT had them long before VMS did.  F The fact that a great deal of kernel design and algorithm details wereI brought over, while a tribute to VMS, doesn't mean that NT *is* VMS - not J even in its innermost core (ignoring major outer pieces of the system likeK RMS, let alone utilities and layered products).  But by the same token, I'd I bet money that a significant amount of that innermost core, albeit a very F small fraction of the system as a whole, contains code that, if placedK side-by-side with VMS and RSX equivalent code, would line up *very* closely G algorithmically - because Cutler personally wrote major portions of all L three and wasn't one to agonize over reorganizing things that already worked well.    > J > "Nevertheless, the migration of VMS internals to NT was so thorough that withinE > a few weeks of NT's release, Digital engineers noticed the striking  > similarities." > @ > http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4494&pg=3 > J > "Why the Fastest Chip Didn't Win" (Business Week, April 28, 1997) states thatJ > when Digital engineers noticed the similarities between VMS and NT, theyE > brought their observations to senior management. Rather than suing,  Digital cut J > a deal with Microsoft. In the summer of 1995, Digital announced Affinity for E > OpenVMS, a program that required Microsoft to help train Digital NT K > technicians, help promote NT and Open-VMS as two pieces of a three-tiered K > client/server networking solution, and promise to maintain NT support for  the I > Alpha processor. Microsoft also paid Digital between 65 million and 100  million 
 > dollars. >  > = > The problem I have is Business Week broke the story.  If it ; > had been theinquirer or theregister or Matt Drudge or the * > New York Times, I wouldn't be so swayed. > 8 > Did Microsoft pay Digital $65-100 million because they > were feeling guilty? > ; > Or was it because NT is little more than warmed over VMS?   C It was most likely because possibly some of the NT code, and almost F certainly some confidential, proprietary design, actually *was* stolenK (though more likely from Mica than from VMS), just nothing like most of it. K And if you take a close look at the 'deal' above, you'll see that it was by J no means all in favor of DEC:  the infamous 'affinity' program as actuallyL implemented emphasized NT (on Alpha) sales rather VMS, and having Alpha as aE platform (with the prospect of 64-bit NT in the future) was as much a K benefit to Microsoft as it was to DEC (especially given that apparently DEC L was *paying* for the software development, at least according to what Compaq  said later when they killed it).   - bill   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 15:16:37 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) < Subject: Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death)( Message-ID: <baqmol$7me$2@pcls4.std.com>  , JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes:  F >> It sounds more like if Chrysler stole/bought a propietary GM engine< >> designed, changed it a little and claimed it as its own.   K >No. There are concepts in cars which are fairly common to all. Someone may H >have invented anti-lock brakes, but they are now pretty standard across >different manufacturers.   D More like Chrysler coming out with an antilock braking system of an I obvious GM design but improved/modified by Chrysler.  Remember, we aren't F talking about basic concepts common to everyone (I assume every OS hasI some equivalent to IRPs), but IRPs being called IRPs, with similar fields A occupying similar positions, with similar code throughout the OS  < processing them.  Same for UCBs (called something else) etc.  I >> A long time DECcie friend of mine goes as far as to say the Windows NT J >> sources to many routines say "Copyright Digital Equipment Corp." at the- >> beginning, but I don't quite believe that.   M >If you stole code, don't you think that the very first thing you would do is L >remove all copyright warnings and rename enough variables to make it "your" >code ?   E Well, UCBs and many packets and many routines _have_ been renamed as  H others pointed out.  Also, like I said, I don't quite believe my friend.F It may or may not be legal, who knows what secret deals Bob Palmer mayG have made in his quest to dismember and sell DEC, before the not secret  deals later.  7 >I really do not understand why Cuttle is so glorified.   I Cutler (not Cuttle) _was_ an outstanding code writer in the early days of  VMS (and elsewhere).   -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 03:18:18 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXen ) Message-ID: <3ED06E08.7744E11B@istop.com>    "Barry Treahy, Jr." wrote:G > list, were in production with real results...  I'm just curious, when F > VAX systems were still in the pipe, what would have a 55 VUP machineB > cost then with 2G of RAM and almost 110G of usable RAID storage?* > probably a few more pennys than I spent!    K Do any VAXes support 2 G of RAM ? Does VAX-VMS support such large adressing  space ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 06:30:09 -0500 / From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com>  Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXen 8 Message-ID: <22a1dv8lv1qknb2c74o8oikhpvhf2mmsfg@4ax.com>  W A VAX can support 4GB physical address space - now you're down to the particular system X architecture.  The VAX 7000 series supports 3.5 GB, with the last 512MB reserved for I/O adapter space.   Clay  O On Sun, 25 May 2003 03:18:18 -0400, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:    >"Barry Treahy, Jr." wrote: H >> list, were in production with real results...  I'm just curious, whenG >> VAX systems were still in the pipe, what would have a 55 VUP machine C >> cost then with 2G of RAM and almost 110G of usable RAID storage? + >> probably a few more pennys than I spent!  >  > L >Do any VAXes support 2 G of RAM ? Does VAX-VMS support such large adressing >space ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:29:49 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>  Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXen ' Message-ID: <3ED0EF7D.4070201@MMaz.com>    JF Mezei wrote:    >"Barry Treahy, Jr." wrote:  >    > G >>list, were in production with real results...  I'm just curious, when F >>VAX systems were still in the pipe, what would have a 55 VUP machineB >>cost then with 2G of RAM and almost 110G of usable RAID storage?* >>probably a few more pennys than I spent! >>     >> >  > L >Do any VAXes support 2 G of RAM ? Does VAX-VMS support such large adressing >space ? > H No, actually Charon only supports 512MB but because of the memory space I used for VMS, DIT, and Windows, as well as creating RAM drives which can  B hold your paging and other temporary files, 2G is the recommended / level.  In this day and age, memory is cheap...    Barry    --@ Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:33:07 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: Overclocking VAXen ) Message-ID: <3ED0FE53.22FD54EE@istop.com>    "Barry Treahy, Jr." wrote:I > No, actually Charon only supports 512MB but because of the memory space J > used for VMS, DIT, and Windows, as well as creating RAM drives which canC > hold your paging and other temporary files, 2G is the recommended 1 > level.  In this day and age, memory is cheap...   K Hadn't thought have having page/swap files residing on a RAM drive... But I G guess it makes sense if you have far more RAM than the emulator allows.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:54:30 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> " Subject: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?' Message-ID: <3ED0F546.F5F4E207@fsi.net>   / Is anyone aware of a VMS-specific Samba How-to?   F I'm trying to further develop a VMS Samba distribution and I'm runningF into a lot of unexplained stuff trying to get this critter going. MostG of it is M$-centric, but some of it is due to the use of TCP/IP (a.k.a. : UCX) in examples and such rather than Multinet or TCPWare.  C As VAXman pointed out recently, it all assumes a level M$ knowledge G which is not always appropriate to a VMS audience, especially among VMS  bigots like some of us.   C Searches on Google have not been entirely helpful. I'm going to try  Yahoo later today.  F I was just hoping someone here had a web page, a URL or something thatD would lead someplace other than to a lot of UN*X- or M$-speak or, as Brian put it, "BillyBabble".  H Also, wasn't there an outfit at one time providing commercial suport for Samba?   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:44:07 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> & Subject: Re: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?' Message-ID: <3ED0F2D7.3030706@MMaz.com>    David J. Dachtera wrote:  0 >Is anyone aware of a VMS-specific Samba How-to? > G >I'm trying to further develop a VMS Samba distribution and I'm running G >into a lot of unexplained stuff trying to get this critter going. Most H >of it is M$-centric, but some of it is due to the use of TCP/IP (a.k.a.; >UCX) in examples and such rather than Multinet or TCPWare.u >8D >As VAXman pointed out recently, it all assumes a level M$ knowledgeH >which is not always appropriate to a VMS audience, especially among VMS >bigots like some of us. >aD >Searches on Google have not been entirely helpful. I'm going to try >Yahoo later today.s > G >I was just hoping someone here had a web page, a URL or something that0E >would lead someplace other than to a lot of UN*X- or M$-speak or, as  >Brian put it, "BillyBabble".n >MI >Also, wasn't there an outfit at one time providing commercial suport fore >Samba?  >  a >sG We ran Samba for many years but found that the VMS version just wasn't iI being developed or supported well for VMS (we could only get 1.9.17p4 to  F more or less be stable as Version 2 kept crashing all the time) so we = moved to alternate solutions which included Samba on Linux...f  I I never found a lot of 'good' VMS related docs, but if you have specific  E questions about 1.9.17p4, I'll trying and address them off-channel...e   Barryc   -- X  @ Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028E   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:46:03 -0700i# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> & Subject: RE: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEENHEAA.tom@kednos.com>5  > Did you follow the links from http://samba.anu.edu.au/samba/ I2 just googled on it and found VMS binaries as well.     >-----Original Message-----a7 >From: David J. Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@fsi.net]e# >Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:55 AM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com# >Subject: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?i >w >e0 >Is anyone aware of a VMS-specific Samba How-to? > G >I'm trying to further develop a VMS Samba distribution and I'm runninguG >into a lot of unexplained stuff trying to get this critter going. MostoH >of it is M$-centric, but some of it is due to the use of TCP/IP (a.k.a.; >UCX) in examples and such rather than Multinet or TCPWare.n >/D >As VAXman pointed out recently, it all assumes a level M$ knowledgeH >which is not always appropriate to a VMS audience, especially among VMS >bigots like some of us. >cD >Searches on Google have not been entirely helpful. I'm going to try >Yahoo later today.  >eG >I was just hoping someone here had a web page, a URL or something that E >would lead someplace other than to a lot of UN*X- or M$-speak or, ase >Brian put it, "BillyBabble".g >tI >Also, wasn't there an outfit at one time providing commercial suport fore >Samba?v >  >--  >David J. Dachtera >dba DJE Systems >http://www.djesys.com/  >e) >Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:s  >http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.i; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).sA >Version: 6.0.480 / Virus Database: 276 - Release Date: 5/12/2003f >p --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.480 / Virus Database: 276 - Release Date: 5/12/2003   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:55:20 GMTo4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)& Subject: Re: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?? Message-ID: <Yz6Aa.458460$Si4.395306@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>   [ In article <3ED0F546.F5F4E207@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes: 0 >Is anyone aware of a VMS-specific Samba How-to? >dG >I'm trying to further develop a VMS Samba distribution and I'm runningaG >into a lot of unexplained stuff trying to get this critter going. MostcH >of it is M$-centric, but some of it is due to the use of TCP/IP (a.k.a.; >UCX) in examples and such rather than Multinet or TCPWare.  >gD >As VAXman pointed out recently, it all assumes a level M$ knowledgeH >which is not always appropriate to a VMS audience, especially among VMS >bigots like some of us. >oD >Searches on Google have not been entirely helpful. I'm going to try >Yahoo later today.i <snip>  	 Hi David,   J I had some luck recently with Samba on VMS, using the following resources:  1 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=samba-vms&r=1&w=2-  > The Samba-VMS mailing list archives (searchable); I found someI information here about how to run Samba using TCPware, rather than TCP/IPe	 Services.n   (warning - wrapped URL)oI http://groups.google.com/groups?q=samba+vms+faq+group:*vms*&hl=en&lr=&ie= 9 UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3C43BB1E.1000504%40qsl.network&rnum=2A  9 The Samba-VMS FAQ, at one time authored by John Malmberg.n  + http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/jyc/T   The latest(?) distribution.i  ) http://lists.samba.org/listinfo/samba-vms    The Samba-VMS mailing list.r  K I'm sure you've had a look at some (or all) of these resources, but I found O them all helpful - I was able to get Samba up and running on my home network ine? one evening.  A minimal setup, to be sure, but it *is* do-able.o   >David J. Dachtera >dba DJE Systems >http://www.djesys.com/k >-) >Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:m  >http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  A _________________________________________________________________c0 Bradford J. Hamilton			"All opinions are my own"/ bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm		"Lose the MAPS"    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 12:05:20 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>nY Subject: RE: Tool to display quotas used and limits (was Re: prod install	hung - help ple T Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF403FB5E31@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Jeff,e  = Apologies if this was suggested before, but as a fyi, another.D alternative to DCL based process monitoring procedures is to use the% free Availability Manager product.=20a  ? It not allows one to not monitor VMS processes in a dynamic GUI A environment, but also change process quota's dynamically as well.o  
 Reference:> http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/availman/index.html  E [currently must be on same LAN or use motif remote display option fora? remote monitoring - limitation to be removed in future release)a   Regardst  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Co.! Consulting & Integration Servicesl Voice: 613-592-4660n Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: kerryDOTmain@hpDOTcom-     (remove the DOT's and replace with "."'s). OpenVMS DCL - the original .COM      > -----Original Message-----7 > From: Jeff Cameron [mailto:JCam90502@jcameron.com]=20  > Sent: May 22, 2003 8:51 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com A > Subject: Re: Tool to display quotas used and limits (was Re:=200A > prod install hung - help please!) hung - help please!)hung -=20u > help please!)m >=20 >=20$ > On 5/22/03 10:25 AM, in article=20- > at1qcvop637memk8plgnalu7cnueukk56h@4ax.com,m+ > "David M Smith" <dsmit115@csc.com> wrote:h >=208 > > On Wed, 21 May 2003 09:30:11 +0100, Chris Sharman=20 > <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>
 > > wrote: > >=20@ > >> Looked at the quotas of the offending process with a DCL=20
 > procedure I  > >> have: all appear OK.  > >>=20dB > >> PID 202819D2 prc SYSTEM user SYSTEM node EQUUS 21-MAY-2003=20
 > 09:25:00.24s> > >> Image: $2$DKB100:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]PCSI$MAIN.EXE;16 > >> EQUUS   AST BIO    Byt DIO  Enq Fil   Page TQ Prc6 > >> Limit   250 150 165136 150 3072 300 300000 50  206 > >> Avail   247 150 165136 150 3072 297 292160 50  20I > >> WSsz =3D 12944 quo =3D 16288 ext =3D 2000000 pk =3D 8528 auth =3D=205 > 16288 authext =3D  > >> 2000000C > >> Login: 20-MAY-2003 09:02:36.96; CPU time 1.96; VirtPeak =3D=20r > 175200; WSdef 
 > >> =3D 8144i > >=20= > > Chris, could I ask what you used to produce the output=20M > above? If it's a small? > > command procedure, can you post a copy or refer me? Thanks.  > >=20@ > --------------------------------------------------------------
 > ----------- A > > David M. Smith 302.391.8533                       dsmit115=20a > at csc dot com? > > Computer Sciences Corporation     (Opinions are those of=20h > the writer only) > >=20@ > --------------------------------------------------------------
 > -----------m >=20 >=20' > $! VVMTI1::U$D00:[KRUZICKI] QUOTA.COMs > $!G > $! ------------------------------------------------------------------c > $!F > $! This command file prompts the user for a process ID, and displaysG > $! information about that process, including quotas, remaining quotas E > $! Image activations, Pagefile usage aproximations, page faults andr; > $! process state.  Any quota that falls below 50% (see=20i > variable THRESHOLD),( > $! will be highlighted in the display. > $!G > $! ------------------------------------------------------------------  > $ on control_y then exit > $ on error then exit > $ on warning then exit > $ margin       =3D "   " > $ gap          =3D " |   " > $ threshold    =3D 50e# > $ bar_line     =3D f$fao("!80*-")-# > $ blank_line   =3D f$fao("!80* ")s= > $ margin_line  =3D margin+f$fao("!36* ")+"|"+f$fao("!10* ")-: > $ heading      =3D "Resource    Unused   Quota %Remain " > $ esc[0,8]=3D27f# > $ start_screen =3D "''esc'"+"[2J"i& > $ cursor_dwell =3D "''esc'"+"[21;0H"# > $ highlight    =3D "''esc'"+"[7m"a# > $ lights_off   =3D "''esc'"+"[0m"o > $ ws =3D "write sys$output"MF > $ if p1 .EQS. "" then inquire/nopunc p1 "Please enter process id : " > $ pid          =3D p1-A > $ xyzxyz =3D f$getjpi(pid,"USERNAME") ! catches if PID is validr" > $ on control_y then goto the_end > $ on error then goto the_end  > $ on warning then goto the_end > $ ws start_screenh > $! > $!=20s@ > --------------------------------------------------------------
 > -----------i > $!      START MAIN PROGRAM > $!=20e@ > --------------------------------------------------------------
 > -----------  > $! > $START_NEW_DISPLAY:u > $ esc[0,8]=3D27a > $ ws "''esc'[0;0H''bar_line'" ( > $ ws " PROCESS MONITOR"+f$fao("!52* ") > $ ws blank_line E > $ ws "''margin'       Process Name ''f$getjpi(pid,""PRCNAM"")'" + -a" >   "           Process Id ''pid'"3 > $ ws "''margin'       Images Invoked so far " + -i? >   f$fao("!#(#AS)",1,17,"''f$getjpi(pid,""IMAGECOUNT"")'") + -h1 >      "Username   ''f$getjpi(pid,""USERNAME"")'"  > $ ws blank_linenF > $ ws "Current image "+f$fao("!#(#AS)",1,60,f$getjpi(pid,"IMAGNAME")) > $ ws blank_line E > $ ws "''margin'       Time ''f$time()'        Process State    "+ -p# >   f$getjpi(pid,"STATE") + "     "e< > $ ws "''margin'       Page faults "+f$fao("!#(#AS)",1,24,-8 >      "''f$getjpi(pid,""PAGEFLTS"")'")+"Pages Available > "+f$fao("!#(#AS)",1,10,-( >      "''f$getjpi(pid,""FREPTECNT"")'") > $ ws bar_line3  > $ ws "PROCESS RESOURCE QUOTAS", > $ ws "''margin'''heading'''gap'''heading'" > $ ws margin_line( > $ set message /nofac/noid/notext/nosev > $ call DO_LINE -; >        "CPU limit " "CPUTIM" "CPULIM" "+" "Direct I/O"=20r > "DIOCNT" "DIOLM" "+" > $ call DO_LINE -; >        "Byte limit" "BYTCNT" "BYTLM"  "+" "Buff I/O  "=20  > "BIOCNT" "BIOLM" "+" > $ call DO_LINE -; >        "Timer Q   " "TQCNT"  "TQLM"   "+" "File Lim  "=20t > "FILCNT" "FILLM" "+" > $ call DO_LINE "Page file " -C; >        "PAGFILCNT" "PGFLQUOTA"        "+" "Sub-proc's"=208 > "PRCCNT" "PRCLM" "-" > $ call DO_LINE -: >        "Enqueue   " "ENQCNT" "ENQLM"  "+" "AST limit"=20 > "ASTCNT" "ASTLM" "+": > $ call DO_LINE "WS Current" "WSSIZE" "WSAUTHEXT" "-" "x"  > $ set message /fac/id/text/sev > $ ws margin_line > $ ws bar_line- > $ ws cursor_dwelle > $ wait 00:00:02.00 > $ goto START_NEW_DISPLAY > $!. > $! the place for the cleanup of the terminal > $THE_END:c  > $ set message /fac/id/text/sev > $ set term/inq > $ ws cursor_dwelll > $       EXIT > $! > $! thats it =3De >=20 > $!=20r@ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------> > $! SUBROUTINE to catch a quota and put into character string > $!=20a@ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > $! > $GET_1_QUOTA: SUBROUTINE > $ on error then exit 2 > $ on warning then exit 2 > $ on control_y then exit 2' > $ spaces =3D    "                   "1' > $ if p1 .EQS. "x" then goto its_blankc' > $ remain =3D    f$getjpi(pid,"''p2'")e' > $ quota  =3D    f$getjpi(pid,"''p3'")B2 > $ if p4 .EQS. "-" then remain =3D quota - remain: > $ if quota  .NE. 0 then percent =3D (remain * 100)/quota6 > $ remain  =3D f$extract(0,8-F$length("''remain'")=20 > ,"''spaces'")+"''remain'"e6 > $ quota   =3D f$extract(0,8-F$length("''quota'") =20 > ,"''spaces'")+"''quota'" > $ percent =3D=20@ > f$extract(0,5-F$length("''percent'"),"''spaces'")+"''percent'"A > $ message =3D "''p1'" + f$extract(0,10-F$length("''p1'")    =20n > ,"''spaces'")s > $ alarm =3D lights_off6 > $ if percent .LT. threshold then alarm =3D highlight- > $ if quota .EQ. 0 then alarm =3D lights_offW, > $ if quota .EQ. 0 then percent =3D "  ---" > $ return_string =3D=3D -D >   "''alarm'''message'''remain'''quota'''percent'%''lights_off'   " > $       EXIT > $!
 > $ITS_BLANK: ' > $ return_string =3D=3D f$fao("!37* ")A > $       EXIT > $ ENDSUBROUTINEN > $! > $!=20e@ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------6 > $!      SUBROUTINE to format two strings into a line > $!=20r@ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > $! > $DO_LINE: SUBROUTINE > $ on error then exit 2 > $ on warning then exit 2 > $ on control_y then exit 24 > $ call GET_1_QUOTA "''p1'" "''p2'" "''p3'" "''p4'" > $ text_line =3D return_stringl4 > $ call GET_1_QUOTA "''p5'" "''p6'" "''p7'" "''p8'"? > $ text_line =3D "''margin'''text_line'''gap'''return_string'"h > $ ws text_line > $       EXIT > $ ENDSUBROUTINEn >=20 >=20 >=20   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 06:24:59 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)mY Subject: Re: XP1000 diagnostics (was: Re: AS255 models (was: AlphaStation 255/500 power uO1 Message-ID: <%kZza.1452$fX4.715@news.cpqcorp.net>u  B In article <03052500193510@antinode.org>, sms@antinode.org writes:$ :From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) :r :> [...]N :>   It is also possible to get a diagnostic display connected directly to theL :>   motherboard of an AlphaStation 500 series -- but then I am also getting7 :>   rather far ahead in the troubleshooting here, too.  :oI :   How about for an XP1000?  I'm ready for this stage troubleshooting mya
 :dead one.  H   The XP1000 series has a diagnostic LED display, and beep codes, and noF   need to cable into a seperate display for low-level hardware faults.  E   The display is eight LEDs on the motherboard, representing two hex eF   digits, with the value of the display indicating the progress of theF   tests and also then for the SRM startup.  (The most significant bit F   of the most significant digit is the one closest to the edge of the G   motherboard -- the rest of the bits line up in descending order, two =   clumps of four.)  F   Also see the "Quick Troubleshooting Guide, Compaq Deskpro Family of 3   Personal Computers, Compaq Deskpro Workstations,    *         Compaq Professional Workstations,   F   Compaq Armada Notebooks, Compaq Prosignia Notebooks", with document A   number: 120205-002, available at the following (monstrous) URL:.  F     http://www3.compaq.com/support/reference_library/viewdocument.asp?C        countrycode=1000&prodid=235|Professional+Workstation+XP1000& -        source=120205-002.xml&dt=13&docid=7269t  +   That URL is all one line, with no spaces.   D   I've not looked at this manual to see how much detail is included.  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------J       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.comN  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.comi   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.288 ************************120847.news.dfncis.de>, "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> writes: > 8 > "Paul Sture" <p_sture@elias.decus.ch> wrote in message% > news:OJzBTdug46nR@elias.decus.ch... K >> In article <Nqbza.11924$AS6.158711@news.chello.at>, peter@langstoeger.at % > (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: J >> > In article <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA685456A@tahiti.tinuk.com>,1 > "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> 