1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 27 May 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 291       Contents:G Re: (Very) Affordable VMS on older gear (was: "VMS will be around ...") G Re: (Very) Affordable VMS on older gear (was: "VMS will be around ...")  Anyone using DATESIM?  Re: Atten John Smith Re: Atten John Smith* Building & installing simh for VAX & PDP11  FA: Infoserver 1000 in Infotower FA: Infotower w/7 RRD43 drives FA: VAXstation 3100 SCSI cable Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: Firmware Upgrade Idea for www.openvms.org Re: Idea for www.openvms.org  Re: Johnny English is a VMS user- RE: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN * Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. Re: Portents of VMS death  Re: Portents of VMS death  Re: Portents of VMS death  Re: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?  SSH for VMS  Re: SSH for VMS   Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issue  Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issue  Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issue  Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issue  Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issue ucx 4.2 install files  Re: ucx 4.2 install files  Re: ucx 4.2 install files P Re: XP1000 diagnostics (was: Re: AS255 models (was: AlphaStation 255/500 power u ZIP.EXE and search lists  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:50:05 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>P Subject: Re: (Very) Affordable VMS on older gear (was: "VMS will be around ...")) Message-ID: <3ED253CC.A9FA9283@istop.com>    John Smith wrote: > > VMS isn't a commodity, which is both a blessing and a curse. > H > Your customers will want to know that you have some staying power when* > the product you sell isn't a Billy-box..  J Customers want to know that HP has staying power. Once I, as the reseller,G have made the sale, doesn't the customer's relationship shift to HP for K support/contracts etc ? And if I go away, the customer can then turn to any @ other reseller. The trick is to get VMS in that customer's shop.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:51:11 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> P Subject: Re: (Very) Affordable VMS on older gear (was: "VMS will be around ...")H Message-ID: <zmtAa.54069$cK1.24421@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:3ED253CC.A9FA9283@istop.com...  > John Smith wrote: @ > > VMS isn't a commodity, which is both a blessing and a curse. > > E > > Your customers will want to know that you have some staying power  when, > > the product you sell isn't a Billy-box.. > B > Customers want to know that HP has staying power. Once I, as the	 reseller, E > have made the sale, doesn't the customer's relationship shift to HP  for F > support/contracts etc ? And if I go away, the customer can then turn to anyB > other reseller. The trick is to get VMS in that customer's shop.    D Presumably what David is talking about is a vendor that is something other than a 'box pusher'.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 01:07:24 +0000 - From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com>  Subject: Anyone using DATESIM?( Message-ID: <3ED2BA4C.10409@bigpond.com>   Hello Folks,  C Is anyone out there using the DATESIM product?  We started using it G last November and have had some intermittent "problems" where processes E appear to drop out of the pseudo-timezone.  Support from the supplier C has been somewhat less than I was hoping for and I was wondering if B anyone was using it and could possibly relay their experience with the product.   Regards, Dave.  --  I David B Sneddon (dbs)    VMS Systems Programmer     dbsneddon@bigpond.com I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/ I DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:19:58 +0100 " From: "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> Subject: Re: Atten John Smith / Message-ID: <batsme$fbp$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>   F For reasons best known to JS at HP - John Q Smith is quite appropriate    A "Bradford J. Hamilton" <brad@.gateway.2wire.net> wrote in message 9 news:dcAya.399081$Si4.344796@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net... ? > In article <857e9e41.0305201556.303b8ee2@posting.google.com>, 3 susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski) writes:  > >John Smith, > > F > >I am assuming that this is not your real name.  If that is the caseG > >would you mind changing it to another name like John Doe.  We have a E > >great guy here in VMS with the real name of John Smith and you are  > >causing some confusion. > & > Excuse me for butting in here... :-) > 5 > How about, "Mr. John Q. Smith, of Anytown, U.S.A."?  >  > :-)  > C > I would have posted this privately to "Mr. Smith", but he remains 
 a@nonymous...  >  > >  > >sue > C > _________________________________________________________________ 0 > Bradford J. Hamilton "All opinions are my own"0 > bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm "Lose the MAPS"   ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2003 19:29:37 -0700# From: dooleys@snowy.net.au (dooley)  Subject: Re: Atten John Smith = Message-ID: <1ca82fc6.0305261829.305afacf@posting.google.com>   v susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski) wrote in message news:<857e9e41.0305201556.303b8ee2@posting.google.com>...
 > John Smith,  > E > I am assuming that this is not your real name.  If that is the case F > would you mind changing it to another name like John Doe.  We have aD > great guy here in VMS with the real name of John Smith and you are > causing some confusion. ; But are you sure the VMS guy's name is "really" John Smith? B It sounds very suspicious to me, his name might be Andrew Harrison* and he's only pretending to be John Smith.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:49:53 -0400 + From: "Ron Milen" <milenronald@mailbag.net> 3 Subject: Building & installing simh for VAX & PDP11 ! Message-ID: <3ed26e86_3@newsfeed>    Hi,   G     I'm trying to build simh for VAX & maybe PDP-11 on Windows XP & I'm D having a problem with the number of pieces of software I'm having toI download, build, and configure.  I haven't actually got to the build part I because I keep finding out I need to get a new piece of software.  So far L I've downloaded the simh zip files, WinPcap, gcc 3.3 sources, & now I think,J if I read the documentation correctly, I need to download a package calledG Cywin.  It occurred to me that some of you have probably gone thru this K before & can maybe give me some pointers on how to do this or point me to a : link where there's a step by step guide on how to do this.   Thanks,  --  	 Ron Milen  milenronald@yahoo.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:40:38 -0500 / From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> ) Subject: FA: Infoserver 1000 in Infotower 8 Message-ID: <gd25dvcf85prbjc0tv0pgehlhenbu5ca0g@4ax.com>  Q http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3027015270&category=11212&rd=1    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:41:18 -0500 / From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> ' Subject: FA: Infotower w/7 RRD43 drives 8 Message-ID: <oe25dvgj7d4fmcovbapvc5uvkempbf9oea@4ax.com>  Q http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3027015276&category=11212&rd=1    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:18:09 -0500 / From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> ' Subject: FA: VAXstation 3100 SCSI cable 8 Message-ID: <4585dv0prjg950b1htt4n22mp9vjol0490@4ax.com>  Q http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3417523238&category=31494&rd=1    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:19:41 +0100 " From: "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> Subject: Firmware Upgrade . Message-ID: <batp61$qf7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>   Hi,   J In anticipation of my new Hobbyist CD arriving with VMS 7.3-1, I'd like toH upgrade the firmware on my Alpha. I've looked on the Compaq FTP site butG there is no download for this - does anyone know where I can find this?    Thanks in advance.   Gary     . 2 $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("PALCODE_VERSION") 5.56   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:40:56 +0200 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>  Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade 5 Message-ID: <batqke$3gllr$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>   / "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> schreef in bericht ( news:batp61$qf7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk... > Hi,  > L > In anticipation of my new Hobbyist CD arriving with VMS 7.3-1, I'd like toJ > upgrade the firmware on my Alpha. I've looked on the Compaq FTP site butI > there is no download for this - does anyone know where I can find this?  >  > Thanks in advance. >  > Gary >  >  > . 4 > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("PALCODE_VERSION") > 5.56 >  What Alpha model do you own?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:07:14 +0100 " From: "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade . Message-ID: <batrum$pie$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>   Thanks for the reply -  + $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("hw_model")  1069* $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("hw_name") DEC 3000 - M300LX  $     6 "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> wrote in message/ news:batqke$3gllr$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de...  > 1 > "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> schreef in bericht * > news:batp61$qf7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk... > > Hi,  > > K > > In anticipation of my new Hobbyist CD arriving with VMS 7.3-1, I'd like  toL > > upgrade the firmware on my Alpha. I've looked on the Compaq FTP site butK > > there is no download for this - does anyone know where I can find this?  > >  > > Thanks in advance. > >  > > Gary > >  > >  > > . 6 > > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("PALCODE_VERSION") > > 5.56 > >  > What Alpha model do you own? >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:16:30 +0100 * From: "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade 5 Message-ID: <batsn3$3cc8g$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>   - "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message ( news:batrum$pie$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk... > Thanks for the reply - > - > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("hw_model")  > 1069, > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("hw_name") > DEC 3000 - M300LX  > $  >   K You already have the latest firmware that will ever exist for this machine.    -- John Travell  VMS crashdump expertise for hire john@travell.uk.net  http://www.travell.uk.net/       --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 13/05/2003    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:18:54 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade 3 Message-ID: <OEuAa.43765$Kn1.418143@news.chello.at>   S In article <batp61$qf7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> writes: K >In anticipation of my new Hobbyist CD arriving with VMS 7.3-1, I'd like to I >upgrade the firmware on my Alpha. I've looked on the Compaq FTP site but H >there is no download for this - does anyone know where I can find this?  - ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/   
 especiallyJ ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/m300_v7_0.sysJ ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/m300_v7_0.exe   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:29:35 +0100 " From: "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade . Message-ID: <batt8b$tv7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>  - Thank you. That solves that problem [I hope].   6  It pays to develop on 'trailing edge'  technology ;-)   Gary.     5 "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> wrote in message / news:batsn3$3cc8g$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de...  > / > "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message * > news:batrum$pie$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk... > > Thanks for the reply - > > / > > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("hw_model")  > > 1069. > > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("hw_name") > > DEC 3000 - M300LX  > > $  > >  > D > You already have the latest firmware that will ever exist for this machine. >  > -- > John Travell" > VMS crashdump expertise for hire > john@travell.uk.net  > http://www.travell.uk.net/ >  >  >  > --- ( > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).C > Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 13/05/2003  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:42:07 +0100 * From: "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade 5 Message-ID: <batu73$3l8bb$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>   C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message - news:OEuAa.43765$Kn1.418143@news.chello.at... 7 > In article <batp61$qf7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Gary"  <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> writes: J > >In anticipation of my new Hobbyist CD arriving with VMS 7.3-1, I'd like toK > >upgrade the firmware on my Alpha. I've looked on the Compaq FTP site but J > >there is no download for this - does anyone know where I can find this? > / > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/  >  > especiallyL > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/m300_v7_0.sysL > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/m300_v7_0.exe > # Sorry Peter, you missed a detail...    In Gary's original post:2 $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("PALCODE_VERSION") 5.56   FromI ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/fwreadme.txt   :                     ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++:                     + DECstation-3000 series Firmware    +:                     +          README-First !!!          +:                     ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++  +         1. Latest Firmware Update Revisions   H              The latest Firmware Update Bootfile "Mx00_V7_0.EXE" on thisK              Alpha Systems Firmware CD contains the SRM Console V7.0, which L              has the following components (* = CHANGED since last release) :                  SRM Console V7.0 0                VMS PALcode V5.56 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<!                UNIX PALcode V1.45      -- John Travell  VMS crashdump expertise for hire john@travell.uk.net  http://www.travell.uk.net/                 --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 13/05/2003    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:53:28 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade 3 Message-ID: <c9vAa.44417$Kn1.482795@news.chello.at>   b In article <batu73$3l8bb$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>, "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> writes:r >"Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message news:OEuAa.43765$Kn1.418143@news.chello.at...V >> In article <batp61$qf7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> writes:N >> >In anticipation of my new Hobbyist CD arriving with VMS 7.3-1, I'd like toL >> >upgrade the firmware on my Alpha. I've looked on the Compaq FTP site butK >> >there is no download for this - does anyone know where I can find this?  >>0 >> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/ >>
 >> especially M >> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/m300_v7_0.sys M >> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/m300_v7_0.exe  >>$ >Sorry Peter, you missed a detail...   Not really ;-)   >In Gary's original post: 3 >$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("PALCODE_VERSION")  >5.56    Yup, I saw this.   >From J >ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/fwreadme.txt > 1 >               VMS PALcode V5.56 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<   A Indeed. But as he wrote f$getsyi("PALCODE_VERSION") and not (as I D expected) F$GETSYI("CONSOLE_VERSION") and I also don't know (&didn'tD read&check either) if a earlier Console Version of the DEC3000-300LXC had also an earlier PALCODE (IIRC, there were some console versions A which had exactly the same PALcode version in them), I decided to G simply post the URL and let the original poster do read/check/decide...    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 22:02:13 +0100 " From: "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade . Message-ID: <batv55$mj7$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>  I Well gentlemen, I'm impressed with the high level of support - thank you.     C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message - news:c9vAa.44417$Kn1.482795@news.chello.at... F > In article <batu73$3l8bb$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>, "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> writes: F > >"Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message- news:OEuAa.43765$Kn1.418143@news.chello.at... : > >> In article <batp61$qf7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> writes: H > >> >In anticipation of my new Hobbyist CD arriving with VMS 7.3-1, I'd like to J > >> >upgrade the firmware on my Alpha. I've looked on the Compaq FTP site but G > >> >there is no download for this - does anyone know where I can find  this?  > >>2 > >> ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/ > >> > >> especially  > >>J ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/m300_v7_0.sys > >>J ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/m300_v7_0.exe > >>& > >Sorry Peter, you missed a detail... >  > Not really ;-) >  > >In Gary's original post: 5 > >$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("PALCODE_VERSION")  > >5.56  >  > Yup, I saw this. >  > >From L > >ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/dec3000/fwreadme.txt > > 3 > >               VMS PALcode V5.56 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  > C > Indeed. But as he wrote f$getsyi("PALCODE_VERSION") and not (as I F > expected) F$GETSYI("CONSOLE_VERSION") and I also don't know (&didn'tF > read&check either) if a earlier Console Version of the DEC3000-300LXE > had also an earlier PALCODE (IIRC, there were some console versions C > which had exactly the same PALcode version in them), I decided to I > simply post the URL and let the original poster do read/check/decide...  >  > --   > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist  > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:02:19 GMT 4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton) Subject: Re: Firmware Upgrade ; Message-ID: <uhvAa.7134$_t5.3845@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>   S In article <batv55$mj7$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> writes: J >Well gentlemen, I'm impressed with the high level of support - thank you. >  <snip>   Worth every penny.	:-)  A _________________________________________________________________ 0 Bradford J. Hamilton			"All opinions are my own"/ bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm		"Lose the MAPS"    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 21:06:38 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ! Subject: Idea for www.openvms.org J Message-ID: <ylvAa.274129$w7k.186060@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   Ken,  8 Why don't you put a couple of counters on your web site?  . Number of days since last OpenVMS advertising, and 1 Number of days since last *new* OpenVMS customer.   @ You could break the advertising sightings (sort of like an ElvisF sighting - in that they don't really occur) into three sub-categories,  newspaper, magazine, television.   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 14:17:32 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>% Subject: Re: Idea for www.openvms.org @ Message-ID: <20030526211732.93025.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com>   Well    = He didnt accept my idea about puting the News Group profile - . mainly for the independent consultants ... :-(> Like www.openvms.org/fabiocardoso  or www.openvms.org/montagar  > This should be the main place for OpenVMS community ! Everyody: which have a homepage should port to OpenVMS.org portal ! ' And K.Farmer refurbishing everything !  = As I said a few threads ago .. some OpenVMS products homepage ) are HORRIBLE ! Not commited to the RAS !     Regards    FC    & --- John Smith <a@nonymous.com> wrote: > Ken, > : > Why don't you put a couple of counters on your web site? > 0 > Number of days since last OpenVMS advertising, > and 3 > Number of days since last *new* OpenVMS customer.  > B > You could break the advertising sightings (sort of like an ElvisH > sighting - in that they don't really occur) into three sub-categories," > newspaper, magazine, television. >  >      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?. The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:04:38 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")) Subject: Re: Johnny English is a VMS user 6 Message-ID: <00A20728.F8C79C94@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  p In article <8jsAa.272576$w7k.134096@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: > B >"Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message1 >news:20030501093534.15384.qmail@gacracker.org... 8 >> NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway.; >> No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender. ; >> --------------------------------------------------------  >>: >> On 1 May 03, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote:7 >> >In article <3EAF89C8.B6D08864@127.0.0.1>, Nic Clews $ >> ><sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> writes: >> >> >> G.A.R.T.N.E.R. >> >>  >> >> (Personal opinion) >> >E >> >And a box of Swiss chocolates to the person who comes up with the  >most D >> >apt/most humourous rendition of what the initials G.A.R.T.N.E.R. >stand >> >for :-)  >>$ >> OK, a one cup of coffee effort... >>
 >>  G enerate  >>  A nnual  >>  R evenue >>  T elling >>  N onsense to
 >>  E ager >>  R eaders >  > 
 >Good one. > < >In the Bond movies we were exposed to an evil organization:D >SPECTRE - the Special Executive for Counterintelligence, Terrorism, >Revenge and Extortion > G >which had its genesis in the mind of Ian Fleming, who was a WWII naval F >intelligence officer before he wrote the James Bond series of novels.A >SPECTRE is based in part on a real-life analog known to Fleming,  >SMERSH. > B >The term SMERSH comes from the Russian words "smert' shpionam" orC >"Death to Spies!". SMERSH was Soviet military counter-intelligence E >during the later part of WWII. It was officially completely separate 0 >from the security organs; the NKVD and the KGB. >  > F >As it turns out, IT has it's own nefarious organization to deal with: >GARTNER > C >Just as evil in its own way - a great proponent of disinformation,  >fear, uncertainty, and doubt.  K Picky correction on the Bondiana: SMERSH actually appears as SMERSH in Bond K novels. SPECTRE doesn't have a lot to do with SMERSH; it's a handy bad-guy  M organization that includes American gangsters (The Spangled Mob) and conducts ( various operations primarily for profit.   -- Alan      --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:04:57 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> 6 Subject: RE: Mirroring Files in real time across a WANT Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4040ED0A5@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Hal,  / What approximate distances are we talking here?   C NFS may indeed be a good option, but as I recall from some previous F comp.os.vms discussions, E*Trade has a fairly large multi-site OpenVMSF cluster that is located in datacenters something like 180 miles apart.   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Co.! Consulting & Integration Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: kerryDOTmain@hpDOTcom-     (remove the DOT's and replace with "."'s)  OpenVMS DCL - the original .COM      > -----Original Message-----, > From: Hal Kuff [mailto:kuff@tessco.com]=20 > Sent: May 25, 2003 4:48 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 8 > Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN >=20 >=20 > In article=20 @ > <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4040ED0A1@kaoexc01.americas.cp > qcorp.net> > , + >  "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> wrote:  >=20 > > Hal, > >=20$ > > Re: keeping RMS files in sync .. > >=20B > > Just curious, but have you consider HBVS (host based volume=20 > shadowing)$ > > for specific drives in question? > >=20H > > That is the typical way one keeps files in sync between 2 sites with > > OpenVMS. > >=20 > > Regards  > >=20 > > Kerry Main > > Senior Consultant   > > Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Co.% > > Consulting & Integration Services  > > Voice: 613-592-4660  > > Fax   : 613-591-4477  > > Email: kerryDOTmain@hpDOTcom1 > >     (remove the DOT's and replace with "."'s) # > > OpenVMS DCL - the original .COM  > >=20 >=20; >    HBVS would be good if the T-3 was in the same TELCO=20  > Central Office...=20J > that is to say very low latency and can run on the network in layer 2=20B > ... as I understand it.  This one goes to Reno in the form of=20 > a point to=20 . > point lease line so we're limited to IP .... >=20F >    Kerry, the NAS head you guys sell looks very interesting for a=20 > mirroring product. >=20 >=20 >=20 > >=20  > > > -----Original Message-----0 > > > From: Hal Kuff [mailto:kuff@tessco.com]=20! > > > Sent: May 25, 2003 10:19 AM  > > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com < > > > Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN > > >=20 > > >=20: > > > In article <3ed070e2.36797752@news.freeserve.co.uk>,- > > >  glatisant68@hotmail.com (Floyd) wrote:  > > >=20E > > > > Is a live read only copy essential at the remote end or do=20  > > > you require < > > > > a usable up to date copy if your source data goes=20 > offline? also what" > > > > controllers are you using?
 > > > >=20
 > > > > Floyd 
 > > > >=207 > > > > On Sat, 24 May 2003 04:38:10 -0400, Hal Kuff=20  > > > <kuff@tessco.com> wrote:
 > > > >=20
 > > > >=20= > > > > >   Is anyone doing anything similar with live RMS=20  > > > files...(On one end of=20 ) > > > > >course - read only on the other) 
 > > > >=20
 > > > >=20" > > > > http://www.technofreak.com > > >=20 > > >=20B > > >    Well, we have some very active RMS files.. keeping the=20 > > > files in synch=20 C > > > would be difficult... but using RMS Journaling and keeping=20  > > > the journal=205 > > > files in synch would be doable on a T-3 ....=20  > > >=20D > > >    We have HSG-80 and EVA SAN systems... it looksl like the=20 > > > HP NAS head=20A > > > is the way to go with the tip from Stan Quayle on how to=20  > > > setup the share! > > >  >=20   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:07:49 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)3 Subject: Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog. 3 Message-ID: <puuAa.43504$Kn1.418143@news.chello.at>    In article <rdeininger-2605031125270001@user-105n92m.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes: P >In article <qK%za.10583$Kn1.143045@news.chello.at>, peter@langstoeger.at wrote: >>Exactly. Or in other words: J >>Why is this that one can no longer look at own errors with pure VMS ???? > J >As I understand it, DECevent and Compaq Analyze originated in the serviceK >organization, not VMS Engineering.  Both tools attempt to support multiple  >OS's.   <RANT>% And the point for a VMS customer is ? F Why does VMS engineering not extend ANAL/ERROR's features to correctlyH display (and if they are at it, maybe even interpret) the logged errors.# Isn't it a shame, that one gets now   @ 	ERF-F-CEHFND, New header format found. Install DECevent and run 	conversion utility   H btw, will this message be changed to mention COMPAQ Analyze (or whateverI the name of the year of the product of the year is) ? Or will it continue 3 to point to a product which is of no help at all...    >>First it was pure VMS.O >>Then you needed DECevent (downloadable, show err = w/o PAK, analyze = w/ PAK) I >>Later you needed COMPAQ Analyze (CD with h/w buy and what else, PAKs ?)  > ( >I think Compaq Analyze is downloadable.   Please post the URL.7 All I found is a patch for WEBES, but not WEBES itself, K I know of WEBES beeing part of the COMPAQ System Tools CD (where the newest L version I ever saw is 2001 and contains V4.0 while www says V4.1 is current)) which is part of the VMS ConDisk Package. J That is not what I think is enough/acceptable for a Joe User VMS-Customer.  J Is only the VMS Business Critical Customer (with all the expensive support  contracts) a good VMS customer ?   >>Now (at HPQ) you need what ? > 7 >Still Compaq Analyze, but I believe it has a new name.   I I know of a new product coming to replace software to link to the service C center, but I don't remember having heard/read about a CA followon.  What's the name, please ?   P >>And don't confuse it with the products to connect to the service centers (likeQ >>DSNlink, DIA ?, WIS ?, ...) or the product collections (like AES, WEBES ?, ...)  > I >It's too late!  I've been confused by this quagmire of tools an acronyms 
 >for years...    And you find this tolerable ?  </RANT>   H Sorry for sounding rude. It is not your fault. Maybe I need to read someK more webpages. And maybe I need to visit more VMS sessions at HPQ or DECUS. L But my view of me is, that I'm not a Joe User VMS Customer. So what problemsD might the Joe User VMS Customer have, finding things or knowlegde...   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:58:56 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>" Subject: Re: Portents of VMS death) Message-ID: <3ED255DF.94BA5450@istop.com>   A > >Also the kernel modules are not dynamic - you cant easily take G > >subsystems off and replace them with other ones that may be the case C > >if your system is not doing the thing that it is designed to do.   L Where I see weaknesses in VMS, in terms of 24/7 uptime and disaster recoveryN (backup system used for testing turning into production when production fails)H is the lack of a 100% failsafe way to unload drivers and reload new ones without a reboot.     K Now, I realise that in your "poster boy" cluster, you have 10 nodes, with 3 M serving as boot nodes anmd 7 actually doing work in an automatically balanced M way. In such a scheme, you can easily afford to reboot a node at your leasure & without much of an impact on services.  M But in the real world, if you have 2-3 nodes in your cluster, one production, L one for testing/backup and one for quorum vote,  you don't have that luxury.L When the production node fails, you must start the production application onN the backup node, and if the application has its own drivers, you need to firstP unlaod the test drivers and then reload the production ones. You need to reboot.    H Not all applications are "poster boy" applications designed to work withV multiple instances of themselves in a cluster with distributed transaction processing.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2003 14:19:15 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) " Subject: Re: Portents of VMS death3 Message-ID: <49lQ6+BcwUkv@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <3ED255DF.94BA5450@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes:B >> >Also the kernel modules are not dynamic - you cant easily takeH >> >subsystems off and replace them with other ones that may be the caseD >> >if your system is not doing the thing that it is designed to do. > N > Where I see weaknesses in VMS, in terms of 24/7 uptime and disaster recoveryP > (backup system used for testing turning into production when production fails)J > is the lack of a 100% failsafe way to unload drivers and reload new ones > without a reboot.  >   = 	Taking your conditions - 24x7 and DR.  I understand you havem= 	a cluster.  Since you have a cluster, you would be rebootingf0 	one box at a time without application downtime.   > M > Now, I realise that in your "poster boy" cluster, you have 10 nodes, with 3 O > serving as boot nodes anmd 7 actually doing work in an automatically balancedoO > way. In such a scheme, you can easily afford to reboot a node at your leasure ( > without much of an impact on services. > O > But in the real world, if you have 2-3 nodes in your cluster, one production,eN > one for testing/backup and one for quorum vote,  you don't have that luxury.  B 	That is a poor design and not realworld.  You don't have a littleC 	VAXstation or AlphaStation as a quorum node.  You have at least 2 pF 	powerful nodes.  You did mention DR and 24x7.  That tells me you yawn9 	when a node crashes.  You certainly DO NOT run a mission3@ 	critical cluster depending on a single node being up/available.   				Robe   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:57:21 -0400D* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>" Subject: Re: Portents of VMS death) Message-ID: <3ED27198.BA81E263@istop.com>    Rob Young wrote:F >         Taking your conditions - 24x7 and DR.  I understand you haveF >         a cluster.  Since you have a cluster, you would be rebooting9 >         one box at a time without application downtime.     N Not everyone can justify having "spare" vaxes just for that privilege of beingN able to reboot a amchine because it isn't capable of resolving RWASt or driverM problems without a reboot. If you use the "windows is bad because it requires L reboots" argument, then you must also apply it to those portions of VMS that aren't perfect.   K >         That is a poor design and not realworld.  You don't have a littlenK >         VAXstation or AlphaStation as a quorum node.  You have at least 2>O >         powerful nodes.  You did mention DR and 24x7.  That tells me you yawn  >         when a node crashes.    K In the real world, not everyone can justify or afford such setups. I had tooN build a DR plan with exsiting hardware (2 vaxes) while fighting a project with6 50% more budget than the DR plan to replace the vaxes.  N And even if I had had budgets to buy 10 vaxes, the applications itself was notH cluster-friendly and could only run on one node at a time. And the SWIFTH network would only support one link at a time (there are authentication,  management and security issues).  I So what do you do when the node that has the link opened to SWIFT fails ?'  M You must also take ointo consideration that a DR plan involves more than just M VMS nodes. There is also telecom infrastructure that must also be DR and mustA% and adapt to changes in your cluster.p    L The problem with your type of attitude is that you've read too many of KeithH Parris' "perfect cluster environment" documents.  Yes, VMS is capable ofJ having the neatest features for DR and clustering. And Yes, an applicationJ could be written to take advantage of those. But many applications are notJ written that way and you build a DR plan "despite" the application and youM have to work hard to make the application think it is alone on a single node.r   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:26:28 -0500w1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>.& Subject: Re: Samba for OpenVMS How-To?' Message-ID: <3ED25C54.98CE3333@fsi.net>o   "Bradford J. Hamilton" wrote:e > \ > In article <3ED23F9C.F2BBC57@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes: > <snip>I > >I haven't gotten as far as SWAT yet. It kinda flies in the face of onebE > >of my secondary goals to make the kit as "VMS" as possible without H > >requiring a lot of ancillary and/or non-VMS stuff to configure/manageE > >it. I was thinking of a DCL proc. ala NET$CONFIGURE that could aska2 > >questions and re-write SMB.CONF as appropriate. > M > Please forgive me; I don't mean to argue needlessly here.  I feel, however, P > that as long as folks feel that GUI/web interfaces are somehow "anti-VMS", VMSN > will remain "in the dark", hidden away from those who know nothing about it.  E GUI/web interfaces are not totally "anti-VMS". They do, however, blurrB the lines to that point that the user becomes confused by Windows'H perceived capability vs. VMS's perceived incapacity. We see this in HP'sH state of denial re: VMS: point-and-click means M$, and M$ means not VMS.  H If "it" runs first on VMS, then on non-VMS as well, that's good for VMS.H If "it" runs on M$ first, and maybe VMS "if we get a round TUIT", that's bad for VMS.  A Also, web interfaces are inherently anti-automation. Witness your- example of HSV/SAN.   H Then again, the whole idea of promoting Samba for VMS is pro-integrationB in my eyes, the world being largely multi-vendor outside of the M$	 monopoly.c   --   David J. Dachteram dba DJE Systemse http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2003 17:14:56 -0700- From: contracer11@uol.com.br (Shiva MahaDeva)l Subject: SSH for VMS= Message-ID: <ddf392ea.0305261614.44a90f8e@posting.google.com>d  6 Id like to know if is there any free SSH to VMS 5.5-2= I was using RSH to send commands from VMS to Solaris, but nowiE Solaris only accept SSH connections in my job. What do you recommend t to me ?  Thanks..   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 22:08:04 -0400r* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: SSH for VMS) Message-ID: <3ED2C862.D9349DB0@istop.com>d   Shiva MahaDeva wrote:  > 8 > Id like to know if is there any free SSH to VMS 5.5-2  S Not sure if it will work on 5.5-2 with whatever TCP stack you have but you can try:o   http://www.free.lp.se/fish/I  0 (Thanks to Phil O for having given me that link)   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:47:20 -0400l* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>) Subject: Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issuee) Message-ID: <3ED25328.83065A93@istop.com>k   Vivek wrote:' > $WRITE TEMP "Deadly chocolate mousse"v > $READ TEMP testu! > TEST = "Deadly chocolate mouse"s  J Something really fishy here... the MBA driver does not remove the second S from Mousse :-)w  H What this means is that at the time you issued the WRITE statement, yourN program had not queued an IO (eg: called QIOW) yet, and when you did the READ,. you were the first in line to get that packet.  I Now, your program may have been busy processing the previous entry, or itc> could have issued some wait statement BEFORE issueing the QIO.  L It would seem to me that the next step would be to add some print statementsJ (in whatever language you are programming in, eg: printf for c) before andJ after the QIOW statement which will give you a better idea of whether your4 program is hanging inside the QIOW or outside of it.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 14:01:23 -0400-* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>) Subject: Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issuet) Message-ID: <3ED25672.BFDE3B4E@istop.com>t   Howard S Shubs wrote:sI > Uh, w/o looking at the docs first, why would he do that instead of just/ > using SYS$QIO w/o the W?  L If the person wants his program to stop until it gets a transaction from theJ mailbox, the easiest way is really to use QIOW without the "now" modifier.H the read should be IO$M_READVBLK  and the write should be IO$M_WRITEVBLK. without any other flags. You don't need much.   # Mailboxes are fairly simple beasts.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:22:18 +0100n" From: "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk>) Subject: Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issuea/ Message-ID: <batlp7$bqk$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>t  I The qio call is asynchronous and the qiow is synchronous for all devices.2K Mailboxes are virtual synchronous devices - so whether applying qio or qiowjL the result is the same [in this case] a synchronous transaction is placed onK the device. The io$m_now modifier forces an asynchronous transaction on theeH mailbox and this will complete immediately - even if there is a resource wait on the device.-      J The main difference in respect to this case is that a qiow will wait untilF the iosb [if specified] is filled with the device specific information! relevant to the IO function code.c      K  A qio will complete instantly returning to the caller the queued status of J the IO request, the iosb information may [in this case] be present too butL is not guaranteed unless the sys$synch  call is used in conjunction with the qio.        HTH,r       Gary4 "Howard S Shubs" <howard@shubs.net> wrote in message6 news:howard-221203.11312226052003@enews.newsguy.com...0 > In article <basoru$s47$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,& >  "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> wrote: >nE > > Have you used the io$m_now fuction code modifier for asychronuous@
 read/write > > completion?  > I > Uh, w/o looking at the docs first, why would he do that instead of justs > using SYS$QIO w/o the W? >  > --  6 > Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:47:06 +0100t" From: "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk>) Subject: Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issuee/ Message-ID: <batn7c$d35$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>.   This is still very suspicious.    ) "Vivek" <visoni@bmc.com> wrote in messageE) news:vd4bce3i58apc3@corp.supernews.com...d > Hi  Gary,? > > > All the SYS$QIOW calls only had the WRITEVBLK function code. >3I > After adding the WRITEBVBLK function code the time take is reduced to 1  > minutes from 4-5 minutes.$ >8! > Seems there is and improvement.G >" > Thanks > Viveku >w >e > / > "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message.* > news:basoru$s47$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...E > > Have you used the io$m_now fuction code modifier for asychronuousg > read/write > > completion?M > >  > > - > > "Vivek" <visoni@bmc.com> wrote in messagea- > > news:vd3arir9qlj671@corp.supernews.com...n	 > > > Hi,M > > >dC > > > I am reading data from the mailbox using the call SYS$QIOW( )e > > > , > > > SYS$QIOW reads 1024 bytes in one call. > > >e? > > > Mail Box has max buffer of 2048 and message size as 1024.0 > > >VL > > > I am encountering a problem of performance in reading from mail box on > VAXaH > > > machine, it is also happening on some ALPHA boxes and not on some. > > >GJ > > > The time taken by this call is 4 minutes to 10 minutes for eac call. > > >cE > > > My Query is, if SYS$QIOW is the right call to read message fromc MAILBOX? > > > 8 > > > Can I use alternative call to improve performance. > > >S > > > Thanks > > > Viveka > > >f > > >  > > >l > > >v > > >d > >h > >p >F >s >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 17:22:34 -0400 ' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>m) Subject: Re: SYS$QIOW - Performance Issue/< Message-ID: <howard-19C05D.17223426052003@enews.newsguy.com>  / In article <batlp7$bqk$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>,0$  "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> wrote:  M > Mailboxes are virtual synchronous devices - so whether applying qio or qiowtN > the result is the same [in this case] a synchronous transaction is placed onM > the device. The io$m_now modifier forces an asynchronous transaction on therJ > mailbox and this will complete immediately - even if there is a resource > wait on the device.o  F Thank you.  It's been a while since I did anything with mailboxes, so  I'd forgotten this.'   -- o4 Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:09:14 GMT % From: "bayden cline" <bayden@isys.ca>o Subject: ucx 4.2 install filesJ Message-ID: <u8xAa.275655$w7k.205603@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  L Hello, I am trying to find a set of ucx 4.2 install files for use on a hobbyJ vax machine and was just wondering if anyone here might be able to help me. out with getting ahold of these files.  Thanks   bayden   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:18:40 GMTa4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)" Subject: Re: ucx 4.2 install files. Message-ID: <khxAa.733994$OV.675840@rwcrnsc54>  r In article <u8xAa.275655$w7k.205603@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, "bayden cline" <bayden@isys.ca> writes:M >Hello, I am trying to find a set of ucx 4.2 install files for use on a hobbyrK >vax machine and was just wondering if anyone here might be able to help met/ >out with getting ahold of these files.  Thanks' >A >baydenO  L Is there any particular reason you need UCX 4.2?  The Hobbyist CD comes withJ TCP/IP V5.0A, and it is also "legal" to use the IP stacks from Process.comN (TCPware and Multinet).  These options would be slightly easier to obtain than, UCX 4.2, which is beginning to show its age.  O That said, anyone who has a ConDist from the proper time frame can lend you theaM CD, or you can purchase one occasionally from Ebay (although you will have tooM know which ConDist(s) contain UCX 4.2 - I don't know which ones do, because Il have no access to them).   >0 >7 >s  A _________________________________________________________________00 Bradford J. Hamilton			"All opinions are my own"/ bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm		"Lose the MAPS"T   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:27:25 GMT/% From: "bayden cline" <bayden@isys.ca>a" Subject: Re: ucx 4.2 install filesJ Message-ID: <xpxAa.275835$w7k.148907@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  J The reason that i am looking for 4.2 is because i am using vms6.2 and thatL is the highest version that it will accept, also that is what another systemJ that i have access to is running so i want to stay with the same thing for the sake of learning thingss   bayden  A "Bradford J. Hamilton" <brad@.gateway.2wire.net> wrote in message ( news:khxAa.733994$OV.675840@rwcrnsc54...L > In article <u8xAa.275655$w7k.205603@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,' "bayden cline" <bayden@isys.ca> writes:<I > >Hello, I am trying to find a set of ucx 4.2 install files for use on ax hobby J > >vax machine and was just wondering if anyone here might be able to help me1 > >out with getting ahold of these files.  Thanksy > >a	 > >baydeny >mI > Is there any particular reason you need UCX 4.2?  The Hobbyist CD comese withL > TCP/IP V5.0A, and it is also "legal" to use the IP stacks from Process.comK > (TCPware and Multinet).  These options would be slightly easier to obtain: than. > UCX 4.2, which is beginning to show its age. >eI > That said, anyone who has a ConDist from the proper time frame can lendh you the"L > CD, or you can purchase one occasionally from Ebay (although you will have toE > know which ConDist(s) contain UCX 4.2 - I don't know which ones do, 	 because It > have no access to them). >  > >" > >d > >l >.C > _________________________________________________________________t0 > Bradford J. Hamilton "All opinions are my own"0 > bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm "Lose the MAPS"   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:17:24 -0500 (CDT)  From: sms@antinode.orgY Subject: Re: XP1000 diagnostics (was: Re: AS255 models (was: AlphaStation 255/500 power ur) Message-ID: <03052616172441@antinode.org>p  # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)r  J >   The XP1000 series has a diagnostic LED display, and beep codes, and noH >   need to cable into a seperate display for low-level hardware faults. > G >   The display is eight LEDs on the motherboard, representing two hex gH >   digits, with the value of the display indicating the progress of theH >   tests and also then for the SRM startup.  (The most significant bit H >   of the most significant digit is the one closest to the edge of the I >   motherboard -- the rest of the bits line up in descending order, two   >   clumps of four.)  C    After some changes, it settles into "C0" (reading down, from D21iF (msb) through D14 (lsb)).  No beeps, unless I cycle the reset button a lot, or yank all the memory.  H >   Also see the "Quick Troubleshooting Guide, Compaq Deskpro Family of B >   Personal Computers, Compaq Deskpro Workstations, Compaq ArmadaA >   Notebooks, Compaq Prosignia Notebooks", with document number:m; >   120205-002, available at the following (monstrous) URL: 	 >   [...]:  .    Ah. yes.  I'm familiar with 120205-002.PDF.  F >   I've not looked at this manual to see how much detail is included.  G    My advice would be not to bother, at least not for an XP1000, unlessk- I missed something (anything) useful therein.l  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode.org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547<   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 01:12:50 GMTc6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)! Subject: ZIP.EXE and search lists.3 Message-ID: <mYyAa.49477$Kn1.507316@news.chello.at>t  8 Does anyone have a good explaination for the following ?   $ DEF LIST A,B,C $ zip LIST:X.ZIP Y.Z $ DIR LIST:X.ZIP  - and you find "X.ZIP" in "C" and not in "A" !!a  N Is this expected behaviour ? Surely not for a COPY or another DCL/VMS program.E Is there a fix for ZIP.C (or similar) to get the "X.ZIP" in "A" or isEE there any (CRTL) logical which can change this (unwanted) behaviour ?.   Many TIA   -- i Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER_% Network and OpenVMS system specialists E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.291 ************************