1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 28 May 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 293       Contents: 164lx scsi controlers % Re: advsyscon remote shadow on alpha? ) Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem ) Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem ) Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem ) Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem ) Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem ) Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem ) Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem ) Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem  Re: Atten John Smith. Re: Building & installing simh for VAX & PDP11. Re: Building & installing simh for VAX & PDP11" Burning CDs in ISO/Files-11 format& Re: Burning CDs in ISO/Files-11 format& Re: Burning CDs in ISO/Files-11 format& Re: Burning CDs in ISO/Files-11 format CSWS and Server-Side Includes ! Re: CSWS and Server-Side Includes H Re: DECUS Lyon 2002 (was: DECUS Amsterdam (anonymous) pictures are here)H Re: DECUS Lyon 2002 (was: DECUS Amsterdam (anonymous) pictures are here) Digital is still alive :-(0 Encompass Board of Directors Call For Candidates4 Re: Encompass Board of Directors Call For Candidates Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64 Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64 Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64 Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64 Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64 Re: Firmware Upgrade Re: FREE TO A GOOD HOME  Re: FREE TO A GOOD HOME  Re: FREE TO A GOOD HOME ' Global Sections and %SYSTEM-F-PAGOWNVIO & Re: How to make a shadowed system disk& Re: How to make a shadowed system disk% Re: Looking for keyboard model number % Re: Looking for keyboard model number - Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN - Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN - Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN * Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.* Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.3 Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death)  OpenVMS VAX V7.3 for sale  Re: Printers and LAT questions Re: Printers and LAT questions Re: Printers and LAT questions Re: Printers and LAT questionsC Re: Unix/VMS conceptual differences, was: Re: Portents of VMS death 
 URL change Re: URL change Re: URL change Re: URL change Re: URL change Re: URL change Re: URL change@ VS3100 Power Supply (Was: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem)  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 01:51:26 GMT % From: "bayden cline" <bayden@isys.ca>  Subject: 164lx scsi controlersH Message-ID: <yCUAa.69582$cK1.42876@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  J I just bought a partial alpha 164lx system, i am planing on installing vmsH on it and am wondering what scsi/raid cards might work for this purpose?G Will any card that supports VMS work with it or will the board be picky  about it   thanks   bayden   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:30:05 -0400  From: Everhart <ge@gce.com> . Subject: Re: advsyscon remote shadow on alpha?+ Message-ID: <bb0vv6$t05$1@bob.news.rcn.net>   A If they intercept start-io and don't have a separate user visible B shadowed device, I would treat them with great care. While I don'tC know details, I have heard of and encountered enough driver changes C and functional changes with the new XFC cache that I feel skeptical A about that operation. If you have to set up a new device and have I to point a logical at that device instead of the old name, it is a little J harder to set up remote shadow. On the other hand you are not dependent onF a synchronization environment which is handling numerous new functionsH and is increasingly hard to follow. As I wrote earlier, i tend to preferJ the Bearcomp approach. For a commercial user the issue is whether BearcompE still sells it. Remote shadowing with a local buffer file that serves I to hold written blocks that have not yet made it to the remote end is not F conceptually all that hard, just takes some care in the writing of theF buffer, but would take a little work to concoct it out of vddriver andJ some daemons, zrdriver, or lddriver. Nobody has done that in free software AFAIK. Glenn Everhart   Hal Kuff wrote:   2 > In article <00A2054D.E8B0450E@SendSpamHere.ORG>,$ >  VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >  > K >>In article <kuff-C63589.05122824052003@news-east.giganews.com>, Hal Kuff   >><kuff@tessco.com> writes:  >>4 >>>Is anyone using advsyscon remote shadow on alpha? >>$ >>Only for possible data corruption. >> >>--9 >>VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001       >>VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM
 >>            7 >>  "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"   >  >  > E > Can I assume then that the huge license fee these guys want is not  E > inline with their performance... I have heard much the same thing.   > B > Their sales dude claims that post September 11th they saved the  > financial industry.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 14:47:57 -0400 0 From: "Alan Boyles" <alan.boyles@mindspring.com>2 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem/ Message-ID: <vd7cjf298o4s39@corp.supernews.com>   . Actually they are AlphaStation 500/500 series.  L The systems never run long enough to even get a blip on a monitor, the powerK stays on  literally for a half second to a second or so and then shutsdown. < I get lights for a second on the 2 enet cards and that's it.   Alan    9 "Bob Blunt" <robert.blunt@hp.nospam.com> wrote in message & news:3ed37bb8$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com... > Alan Boyles wrote:
 > > Group: > > I > > I have just received 2 AlphaStations (a 255/400 and a 255/500) and am  havingL > > some problems.  When I try to turn either of the boxes on they will veryK > > briefly run, maybe half a second to a second and then shut down.  I was K > > thinking power supply but I find it strange that both boxes do the same  > > thing.  Any ideas ?  > > 
 > > Thanks > >  > > Alan > >  > >  > J > Alan, please explain what you mean by "briefly run?"  Do you have eitherI > a monitor connected to the graphics port or a serial terminal connected J > to the console?  Is the console variable "console" set to "serial" or toF > "graphic?"  Are you getting any display on the "console" or terminal > after you power the system?  > J > Please check your system type.  I wasn't aware that the AlphaStation 255H > was available in CPU speeds besides 233 and 300.  What does the systemG > look like?  If all else fails, check the back for the model number on D > the back, it should be on the same "plate" with the serial number. > H > If all else fails, I'd pull all the giblets out except for the minimumI > memory required to pass POST.  SOMEtimes a dead device can cause enough D > load on the power supply to keep the system from running properly.F > Without knowing more about the actual system type involved, it'll be; > difficult to recommend how much memory you need for that.  >  > bob  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:29:34 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> 2 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem; Message-ID: <01KWEF7O8GVEAKVGCS@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   K > > > I have just received 2 AlphaStations (a 255/400 and a 255/500) and am K > > > having some problems.  When I try to turn either of the boxes on they J > > > will very briefly run, maybe half a second to a second and then shutN > > > down.  I was thinking power supply but I find it strange that both boxes& > > > do the same thing.  Any ideas ?  > > L > > Alan, please explain what you mean by "briefly run?"  Do you have eitherK > > a monitor connected to the graphics port or a serial terminal connected L > > to the console?  Is the console variable "console" set to "serial" or toH > > "graphic?"  Are you getting any display on the "console" or terminal > > after you power the system?  > 0 > Actually they are AlphaStation 500/500 series. > H > The systems never run long enough to even get a blip on a monitor, theH > power stays on  literally for a half second to a second or so and thenJ > shutsdown. I get lights for a second on the 2 enet cards and that's it.   F I have EXACTLY the same problem on a VAXstation 3100 M38.  It USED to H work fine.  (I have a VT320 as the console, properly connected etc---as  I said, it used to work fine.)  H My guess was that the power supply gave out; when switching the machine H one, there is a surge which makes the ethernet cards (and the power LED  on the front) light up.   E I agree that it seems unlikely in your case that both power supplies  I gave out; on the other hand, if there was a surge or something like that  9 which killed one, it might have killed the other as well.   H While I'm at it: can I just take the power supply out of a 3100 M30 and  use it in the 3100 M38?    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:58:57 -0400 , From: "David Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com>2 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem/ Message-ID: <vd7v6ggckm4255@news.supernews.com>    Fans ?  ( These go before the P/s in my experienceK Remember there are a lot of sensors in these puppies to prevent overheating  issues   DT   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:20:39 -0400 0 From: "Alan Boyles" <alan.boyles@mindspring.com>2 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem/ Message-ID: <vd804q859r1d57@corp.supernews.com>   L I suppose it might be but the fans are working for the second or so that theL p/s works.  I'm trying it on a 120V current and am thinking of  trying it onG a 240V ( after changing the switch ) to see if it makes any difference.    Alan7 "David Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote in message ) news:vd7v6ggckm4255@news.supernews.com...  > Fans ? > * > These go before the P/s in my experienceA > Remember there are a lot of sensors in these puppies to prevent  overheating  > issues >  > DT >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:36:49 GMT ' From: "Mark E. Levy" <melevy@attbi.com> 2 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem? Message-ID: <BwTAa.486274$Si4.416097@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>   ; "Alan Boyles" <alan.boyles@mindspring.com> wrote in message ) news:vd804q859r1d57@corp.supernews.com... J > I suppose it might be but the fans are working for the second or so that the  > p/s works.  L That's the expected behaviour. It powers up long enough to discover that theL fan(s) aren't working, then it runs & hides from the expected eventuality ofK overheating. It doesn't matter that the fans are actually spinning, the p/s  seems to think they're not.   L Have you tried removing everything but the motherboard? That behaviour wouldB also occur if the p/s were overloaded. In that case, it's called a> "crowbar." Again, it's shutting itself down to prevent damage.  B > I'm trying it on a 120V current and am thinking of  trying it onI > a 240V ( after changing the switch ) to see if it makes any difference.   	 It won't.      --   Mark E. Levy" System Management Associates, Inc. www.sysman-inc.com www.openvms.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:36:09 -0400 0 From: "Alan Boyles" <alan.boyles@mindspring.com>2 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem/ Message-ID: <vd84gl3bp07u84@corp.supernews.com>   D I've tried removing everything from the motherboard, in fact I triedE removing the p/s and running it by itself, but it does the same thing G every time.  At DEC we used to have a walkin customer service where you H could take PC's, tape drives and such in and drop them off and have them3 checked out, but I don't think those exist anymore.    Alan2 "Mark E. Levy" <melevy@attbi.com> wrote in message9 news:BwTAa.486274$Si4.416097@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net... = > "Alan Boyles" <alan.boyles@mindspring.com> wrote in message + > news:vd804q859r1d57@corp.supernews.com... L > > I suppose it might be but the fans are working for the second or so that > the  > > p/s works. > J > That's the expected behaviour. It powers up long enough to discover that the K > fan(s) aren't working, then it runs & hides from the expected eventuality  ofI > overheating. It doesn't matter that the fans are actually spinning, the  p/s  > seems to think they're not.  > H > Have you tried removing everything but the motherboard? That behaviour would D > also occur if the p/s were overloaded. In that case, it's called a@ > "crowbar." Again, it's shutting itself down to prevent damage. > D > > I'm trying it on a 120V current and am thinking of  trying it onK > > a 240V ( after changing the switch ) to see if it makes any difference.  >  > It won't.  >  >  > --   > Mark E. Levy$ > System Management Associates, Inc. > www.sysman-inc.com > www.openvms.com  >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 02:24:47 GMT ' From: "Mark E. Levy" <melevy@attbi.com> 2 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem1 Message-ID: <L5VAa.1045738$S_4.1049298@rwcrnsc53>   ; "Alan Boyles" <alan.boyles@mindspring.com> wrote in message ) news:vd84gl3bp07u84@corp.supernews.com... F > I've tried removing everything from the motherboard, in fact I triedG > removing the p/s and running it by itself, but it does the same thing I > every time.  At DEC we used to have a walkin customer service where you J > could take PC's, tape drives and such in and drop them off and have them5 > checked out, but I don't think those exist anymore.   J Switching power supplies generally don't like running without a load; thatG alone could cause it to shut down. Also, running disconnected, it's not I "seeing" the fan signals. I'm not suprised that wasn't, er, illuminating.    --   Mark E. Levy" System Management Associates, Inc. www.sysman-inc.com www.openvms.com    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 04:30:16 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) 2 Subject: Re: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem( Message-ID: <bb1e0o$g6k$1@pcls4.std.com>  2 "Alan Boyles" <alan.boyles@mindspring.com> writes:  M >I suppose it might be but the fans are working for the second or so that the M >p/s works.  I'm trying it on a 120V current and am thinking of  trying it on H >a 240V ( after changing the switch ) to see if it makes any difference.  G Probably not, But... My AS200 failed in such a way that it was working  J fine until I shut it down to install something or other.  It wouldn't comeI back on, powering itself on for a half second before shutting down again. F I power cycled it and on about the third try it stayed up, for months.K The next time it got powered off it took a dozen or so power cycles before  J it came up, and stayed up for months again.  The third time, it would not G stay up.  I suspect the power supply is mostly fine but some component  E related to the fan sensors or some over/under voltage/current sensor   failed.   I The fan sensors in an Alphaserver 4100 have smarts behind them.  If a fan J fails, the power cycles for what appears to be a few milliseconds - enoughJ for the CPU to start the console (and the lights flicker).  There will be K a display in the selftest that the fan failed but it will keep on testing - H until the power is shut off for good.  You can see (if you are watching)H _why_ it shuts off.  And the power supply won't come back on again untilH after a period of time passes - even if you yank the plug.  Prevents oneF from power cycling an overheated system getting it too hot and frying, I guess. --   -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:39:56 -0400  From: Everhart <ge@gce.com>  Subject: Re: Atten John Smith + Message-ID: <bb0t0s$ksh$1@bob.news.rcn.net>    JF Mezei wrote:  > re: 2 "John Smiths". > H > Reminds me of a DECUS board meetiung I had at Digital's Hull PC repairP > facilities just as the merger with Compaq had been announced. Was walking nearO > the big repair floor and there was MY name on an office door. (it was weekend N > so the place was empty). Since my name is not common, it was VERY strange toO > see the very same name (Jean-Franois Mezei) there. God forbid there would be  > a clone of me :-)  > P > But I was never asked to change my name because someone else had the same name > inside Digital. C Yes, but you were using your real name as most of us do. It is more B common for people using aliases to choose names that are obviouslyG aliases. "Cthulhu", "Isildur", etc. are examples. Tends to be also more  polite.   7 It is always possible to pick an alias nobody is using.    "Vogar the impenetrable" "Fubar the Old"   
 or perhaps  
 John the Wise   L At any rate such a name would not collide with other names and would also beL upfront in representing its user as someone who chooses not to be known, but who is not using a real name.   Q (Finding someone in the real world with the same name can be disconcerting. Seems L there is a radio engineer duplicating mine somewhere around. Fortunately not
 on info-vax.)    Glenn Everhart   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:45:33 +0200 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> 7 Subject: Re: Building & installing simh for VAX & PDP11 5 Message-ID: <bb0ipj$49meq$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>   J The VAX and PDP11 simulators are available on http://home.zonnet.nl/hvlems    8 "Ron Milen" <milenronald@mailbag.net> schreef in bericht news:3ed26e86_3@newsfeed...  > Hi,  > I >     I'm trying to build simh for VAX & maybe PDP-11 on Windows XP & I'm F > having a problem with the number of pieces of software I'm having toK > download, build, and configure.  I haven't actually got to the build part K > because I keep finding out I need to get a new piece of software.  So far G > I've downloaded the simh zip files, WinPcap, gcc 3.3 sources, & now I  think,L > if I read the documentation correctly, I need to download a package calledI > Cywin.  It occurred to me that some of you have probably gone thru this K > before & can maybe give me some pointers on how to do this or point me to  a < > link where there's a step by step guide on how to do this. > 	 > Thanks,  > --   > Ron Milen  > milenronald@yahoo.com  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 17:16:15 -0500 8 From: "Scandora, Anthony E., Jr." <Scandora@cmt.anl.gov>7 Subject: Re: Building & installing simh for VAX & PDP11 + Message-ID: <bb0o3q$5vb$1@milo.mcs.anl.gov>   I Cygwin is a Unix emulator for Windows.  The company was bought by Red Hat 4 some time ago, and it's available at www.cygwin.com.  1 Tony Scandora, Argonne National Lab, 630-252-7541  scandora@cmt.anl.gov  6 "Ron Milen" <milenronald@mailbag.net> wrote in message news:3ed26e86_3@newsfeed...  > Hi,  > I >     I'm trying to build simh for VAX & maybe PDP-11 on Windows XP & I'm F > having a problem with the number of pieces of software I'm having toK > download, build, and configure.  I haven't actually got to the build part K > because I keep finding out I need to get a new piece of software.  So far G > I've downloaded the simh zip files, WinPcap, gcc 3.3 sources, & now I  think,L > if I read the documentation correctly, I need to download a package calledI > Cywin.  It occurred to me that some of you have probably gone thru this K > before & can maybe give me some pointers on how to do this or point me to  a < > link where there's a step by step guide on how to do this. > 	 > Thanks,  > --   > Ron Milen  > milenronald@yahoo.com  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:31:10 GMT + From: Jeff Cameron <JCam90502@jcameron.com> + Subject: Burning CDs in ISO/Files-11 format 2 Message-ID: <BAF9515C.8DE1%JCam90502@jcameron.com>  G Is it possible to burn CD's in a dual ISO/Files-11 format so that files F retain their VMS record attributes when mounted on a VMS system and beL readable by PCs and UNIX systems? (MACintosh would also be desiable, but not a requirement).   I Where can I find the current instructions for making Files-11 ODS3 format  CD's?    Thanks in advance. Jeff Cameron   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:58:34 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> / Subject: Re: Burning CDs in ISO/Files-11 format ' Message-ID: <3ED417CA.70486208@fsi.net>    Jeff Cameron wrote:  > I > Is it possible to burn CD's in a dual ISO/Files-11 format so that files H > retain their VMS record attributes when mounted on a VMS system and beN > readable by PCs and UNIX systems? (MACintosh would also be desiable, but not > a requirement).  > K > Where can I find the current instructions for making Files-11 ODS3 format  > CD's?   C Larry Kilgallen's LJK-CDROM writes ISO-9660 with the RMS data cells ( fully populated. E-mail him for details.  H There was once a posted procedure for producing a "co-mapped" image: the= ISO-9660 pointers point to the ODS-2 address/location of each 9 file/directory. Dunno where to find that anymore, though.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2003 23:04:50 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) / Subject: Re: Burning CDs in ISO/Files-11 format 3 Message-ID: <NE3AiSmbYNA6@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <BAF9515C.8DE1%JCam90502@jcameron.com>, Jeff Cameron <JCam90502@jcameron.com> writes:I > Is it possible to burn CD's in a dual ISO/Files-11 format so that files H > retain their VMS record attributes when mounted on a VMS system and beN > readable by PCs and UNIX systems? (MACintosh would also be desiable, but not > a requirement).   F I believe Brian Schenkenberger has posted instructions on his web siteH for doing that but not sharing data.  That is, there are separate copies, of the data for ODS and ISO directory trees.  D At one point DEC had an internal tool that did it with data sharing,9 but I believe they stopped using it due to unreliability.    ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2003 23:07:38 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) / Subject: Re: Burning CDs in ISO/Files-11 format 3 Message-ID: <tN003v4JJPo3@eisner.encompasserve.org>   [ In article <3ED417CA.70486208@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:  > Jeff Cameron wrote:  >>  J >> Is it possible to burn CD's in a dual ISO/Files-11 format so that filesI >> retain their VMS record attributes when mounted on a VMS system and be O >> readable by PCs and UNIX systems? (MACintosh would also be desiable, but not  >> a requirement). >>  L >> Where can I find the current instructions for making Files-11 ODS3 format >> CD's? > E > Larry Kilgallen's LJK-CDROM writes ISO-9660 with the RMS data cells * > fully populated. E-mail him for details.  ? 	Yes, if you just want the record attributes and don't actually 5 	require Files-11, there is LJK/CDROM information at:    		http://www.ljk.com/   > 	The two cases I can think of where that would not be adequate 	are:   $ 		a. you need to boot from the CDrom  9 		b. you need to read it on versions of VMS prior to V6.1    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 02:27:56 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> & Subject: CSWS and Server-Side Includes2 Message-ID: <3ED41B0B.CED45C95@firstdbasource.com>  G I must be missing something here???   I have even tried putting this in G the CGI-BIN directory.  The result is a blank page with the page source  showing the commands.      <!--  The index.shtml file --> <!--#printenv --> ! <!--#include file="open.html" --> ! <!--#include file="main.html" --> " <!--#include file="close.html" -->     In the HTTPD.CONF file:  # ! # To use server-parsed HTML files  #    AddType text/html .shtml AddHandler server-parsed .shtml         In my virtual hosts config file: <VirtualHost 192.168.1.200> *     ServerAdmin maustin@firstdbasource.com1     DocumentRoot /apache$common/htdocs/SERVERNAME      ServerName SERVERNAME.COM &     ErrorLog logs/SERVERNAME.error_log/     CustomLog logs/SERVERNAME.access_log common 
 <Directory /> #     Options FollowSymLinks Includes      AllowOverride None </Directory>     <Directory /subdir/>'         Options FollowSymLinks Includes      AllowOverride None     </Directory> </VirtualHost>      C url: looks something like:   http://myserver.com/subdir/index.shtml    --   Regards,  6 Michael Austin            OpenVMS User since June 19847 First DBA Source, Inc.    Registered Linux User #261163    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 03:58:45 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")* Subject: Re: CSWS and Server-Side Includes6 Message-ID: <00A2081B.39B60034@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  f In article <3ED41B0B.CED45C95@firstdbasource.com>, Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> writes:  H >I must be missing something here???   I have even tried putting this inH >the CGI-BIN directory.  The result is a blank page with the page source >showing the commands. >  >  ><!--  The index.shtml file -->  ><!--#printenv -->" ><!--#include file="open.html" -->" ><!--#include file="main.html" --># ><!--#include file="close.html" -->   N You're definitely missing something.  I cut-and-pasted this to my home machineO (running 1.3.26) and when I accessed it it did the printenv and produced errors 1 for the #includes, since I don't have the files.)    >  >  >In the HTTPD.CONF file: >#" ># To use server-parsed HTML files ># >  >AddType text/html .shtml   >AddHandler server-parsed .shtml   Looks totally good.    >  >  > ! >In my virtual hosts config file:  ><VirtualHost 192.168.1.200>+ >    ServerAdmin maustin@firstdbasource.com 2 >    DocumentRoot /apache$common/htdocs/SERVERNAME >    ServerName SERVERNAME.COM' >    ErrorLog logs/SERVERNAME.error_log 0 >    CustomLog logs/SERVERNAME.access_log common ><Directory />$ >    Options FollowSymLinks Includes >    AllowOverride None 
 ></Directory>  >    <Directory /subdir/> ( >        Options FollowSymLinks Includes >    AllowOverride None  >    </Directory>  ></VirtualHost>     I You have a separate config file for your virtual hosts?    Is it included ; into HTTPD.CONF before or after you specify the AddHandler?     L Within the virtual host, I think you want that <Directory /> container to be, <Directory /apache$common/htdocs/SERVERNAME>   or you want to do   0 <Location />  (from URL rather than file system)   and   1 <Location /subdir>  (or possibly even "/subdir").    -- ALan      io     >  >  > D >url: looks something like:   http://myserver.com/subdir/index.shtml >  >-- 	 >Regards,  > 7 >Michael Austin            OpenVMS User since June 1984 8 >First DBA Source, Inc.    Registered Linux User #261163 --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2003 14:49:59 -0700/ From: prosullivan@aol.com (prosullivan@aol.com) Q Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon 2002 (was: DECUS Amsterdam (anonymous) pictures are here) < Message-ID: <a14b767a.0305271349.c1a52c7@posting.google.com>  E Having been one of the *very few* multi-platform customers present at @ DECUS/ITUG/Compass whatever, I feel guilty at having to claim my; expenses from my employer. No problem with the venue or the F hospitality at all, but...I made the mistake of having a session. Hmm.E good idea. I had to get permission from my employer (investment bank) 1 into allowing me to present, well to who exactly:    1 software vendor (2 people)+ 1 competing software vendor (hi Ashley :) ) 
 1 reseller  3 actual honest to god customers  7 Total: 5 (sic). I tell you, what on earth is the point.   3 i) there were less attendees than last year in Lyon = ii) there were less interesting stands than last year in Lyon F iii) there were more moans about 'what a terrible job HP is doing with VMS'  A What was most telling was that the organizers were offering a 20% A discount on those vendors willing to sign up for next year at the  show.   D Of course, attendance would have been down because of the absence of? certain major software vendors: CA, and BMC. I wonder why....:)    pos    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:18:01 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> Q Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon 2002 (was: DECUS Amsterdam (anonymous) pictures are here) I Message-ID: <tuRAa.285351$w7k.40215@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   & <prosullivan@aol.com> wrote in message6 news:a14b767a.0305271349.c1a52c7@posting.google.com...D > Having been one of the *very few* multi-platform customers present atB > DECUS/ITUG/Compass whatever, I feel guilty at having to claim my= > expenses from my employer. No problem with the venue or the C > hospitality at all, but...I made the mistake of having a session.  Hmm.A > good idea. I had to get permission from my employer (investment  bank) 3 > into allowing me to present, well to who exactly:  >  > 1 software vendor (2 people)- > 1 competing software vendor (hi Ashley :) )  > 1 reseller" > 3 actual honest to god customers > 9 > Total: 5 (sic). I tell you, what on earth is the point.  > 5 > i) there were less attendees than last year in Lyon ? > ii) there were less interesting stands than last year in Lyon C > iii) there were more moans about 'what a terrible job HP is doing  with > VMS' > C > What was most telling was that the organizers were offering a 20% C > discount on those vendors willing to sign up for next year at the  > show.  > F > Of course, attendance would have been down because of the absence ofA > certain major software vendors: CA, and BMC. I wonder why....:)     E HP's attitude seems to be that if anyone makes a negative observation B about the state of VMS marketing, it brings VMS one step closer to death.  F That's roughly analogous to observing that Aunt Millie has lung cancerE and then your family accuses you of being a contributor to her demise  simply by mentioning that fact.   C If HP were truly serious about the future of VMS in a positive way, A the advertising and marketing would have started long ago...on or E about May 7, 2002 when HP's watch over VMS began. Even if it were one 2 page per month in the more prominent IT magazines,E Forbes/Fortune/Business Week, and some banner ads on a variety of web C sites, just to keep the VMS message in front of the professional IT F audience - it wouldn't amount to 10% of carly's (tm) salary and bonus,B or maybe even just her salary. That amount is just the cost of oneA fill of aviation gas in the HP corporate jet to get carly (tm) to  Davos once, one way.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 23:21:41 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com># Subject: Digital is still alive :-( ) Message-ID: <3ED42B40.9B66BE42@istop.com>   L Finally got to the old PC cemetary's wharehouse today looking for memory and7 SPX graphics board for my 3100. (as well as a monitor).   M Last friday, i had gotten there only to find that the folks weren't there. (I 9 had called the day before to confirm they would be open).   L So, today, I arrive there. There was a large Digital machine standing on theK ashphalt outdoors originally from fisheries and oceans canada. But the name 9 plate was removed, so I couldn't figure out what it was.    M There were plenty of  "pizza boxes" on the ground and they were opening them, M ripping components out and throwing the cabinets into a large mound (probably  for recycling).   H As I entered to start seeking 3100s that I could cannabalise to find theN boards, one of the employee comes to me and tells me there is a 3100 outdoors.K So as I start to open it, the manager comes to me and tells me that I can't M take boards out, I must buy the whole unit. Argments follow, including a call M to the owner at the other place. In the end, the manager says "NO" and throws L the 3100 back in the group of PCs they were working on. At least they waitedH until I was gone to disassemble the machine and throw it into a big bin.M They'll get no revenus from that box and refused to sell me parts which would  have generated revenus.    Reminded me of Digital a lot !   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 01:47:54 GMT D From: "BoD Nominations Committee" <informationat@encompassusdot.org>9 Subject: Encompass Board of Directors Call For Candidates E Message-ID: <ezUAa.18751$rO.1720886@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>n   Call for Candidates!J The Encompass Board of Directors are 9 individuals who share the desire toG see this organization of enterprise computing professionals succeed. TouG serve on the Encompass Board, you must be willing to give your time and2D energy to Encompass and lend your strategic and enterprise computing> expertise to help the organization become better and stronger.  K There are three open positions during this year's election. All three termshI run from January 1, 2004 to December 31, 2006. To be eligible to serve onO! the Encompass Board of Directors:n  4 You must be a member in good standing with Encompass8 You must have the desire to see the organization succeedC You must be willing to commit to the amount of time needed to serve      Encompass Board Positionsy   Board of Directors Mission:aF The structure and purpose of the board of directors is governed by theB bylaws of Encompass.  The board of directors has the authority andI responsibility of day-to-day activities of the organization. However, theTB primary duty of the board is to concentrate on issues of strategic1 importance to the future well being of Encompass.e   Reports to:D Encompass membership.O   General Qualifications% * Strong verbal communication skills.-& * Strong written communication skills. * Strong leadership ability. * Strong presentation skills.nJ * Practical experience with HP enterprise products and services or related products/services.1 * Prior experience with a volunteer organization.i> * Support from employer to fulfill the role of a board member.? * Must be able to fill designated time commitments. (See below)o   Time CommitmentoC * Must be able to commit time required to the 3-year term of office D * Must be able to attend one conference per year, totaling 4-5 days.J * Must be able to attend three board meetings per year, totaling up to six days.VF * Must be available to participate in a one-hour conference call every month.K * Must be able to attend special conference calls or meetings called by theR
 President.   General Responsibilities4 * Sets policy and strategic direction for ENCOMPASS.I * Has fiduciary responsibility for ENCOMPASS activities.  Understands the J financials of the organization; actively participates in setting direction for budget development.DL * Sets direction of ENCOMPASS' management firm to ensure that activities are? carried out in accordance with ENCOMPASS' goals and objectives.n5 * Approves and monitors general activity and budgets.rG * Maintains communication channels with HP and all levels of ENCOMPASS.bJ * Participates in strategic planning sessions held by users groups, HP, or0 other organizations that require non-disclosure.0 * Must act in accordance with ENCOMPASS' Bylaws.; * Must be able to represent ENCOMPASS to other user groups.n6 * Votes on issues presented to the board by directors.C * Must be able to act in any capacity as designated by the board ofc
 directors.   BenefitsC * Board members have the opportunity to be exposed to the ENCOMPASS E organization and make a significant contribution to the future of the 4 industry, and to the future of HP product direction.I * A director has the opportunity to make all pertinent business decisionslG necessary to grow and manage a dynamic small business in the technologyeD industry. Through interaction with ENCOMPASS' membership, a directorH provides direction and develops policy and procedures that contribute toH making ENCOMPASS a successful, sustained, highly effective organization.L * A director can experience personal growth through the interchange of ideas7 with HP and other vendors, peer groups, and executives.tF * A director's company can receive enhanced exposure and access to HP.B * Several areas of expense reimbursement; complimentary conference; registration and housing; travel for all board meetings andi= ENCOMPASS-related events requiring board representation, etc.a    ! Encompass 2003 Board of Directors< Application/Candidate ProfileO For 2003 ElectionS     Name:.   Company:   Mailing Address:     Business Telephone:0 Fax: E-mail Address:o  I Elected positions: Encompass has three (3) director-at-large positions upn
 for election.oG These positions will have terms of January 1, 2004 - December 31, 2006.p  H If you are interested in being considered for nomination to the board ofL directors, please complete this form. This will allow the volunteer electionL committee to effectively and fairly evaluate all candidates for the board ofH director's openings (and determine a slate of candidates).  An interviewD will also be set up by phone call with the committee to discuss your# potential involvement in Encompass.-  1 Thank you for your interest in serving Encompass.5   COMPANY BACKGROUND  ! Describe your company's business:        PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND0   Your job title:   2 Please describe your primary job responsibilities:        . What is the title of the person you report to:        B Please describe your experience with strategic planning, or fiscal responsibilities:              STATEMENT OF INTENTIONSn  * Please respond to the following questions:  G 1. Please discuss why you would like to serve on the Encompass Board ofa
 Directors.          E 2. Tell us about your accomplishments in Encompass or other volunteerr organizations.          J 3. What benefits do you expect to receive as a result of your election andH Board service?  What benefits do you expect Encompass to receive?   What/ benefits do you expect your company to receive?d                L Please return your complete and legible form to Encompass via mail or fax by
 May 28, 2003.h  I Mailing Address: Encompass Headquarters, 401 North Michigan Avenue, Suite  2200, Chicago, IL 60611e Fax Number: 312-673-4609   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 01:54:02 GMTrD From: "BoD Nominations Committee" <informationat@encompassusdot.org>= Subject: Re: Encompass Board of Directors Call For CandidatesaE Message-ID: <_EUAa.18758$rO.1721716@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>l  K The end date for submitting applications has been extended to June 4, 2003.v    G "BoD Nominations Committee" <informationat@encompassusdot.org> wrote in?G message news:ezUAa.18751$rO.1720886@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...  > Call for Candidates!L > The Encompass Board of Directors are 9 individuals who share the desire toI > see this organization of enterprise computing professionals succeed. TosI > serve on the Encompass Board, you must be willing to give your time andsF > energy to Encompass and lend your strategic and enterprise computing@ > expertise to help the organization become better and stronger. >yG > There are three open positions during this year's election. All threea terms,K > run from January 1, 2004 to December 31, 2006. To be eligible to serve ons# > the Encompass Board of Directors:t >o6 > You must be a member in good standing with Encompass: > You must have the desire to see the organization succeedE > You must be willing to commit to the amount of time needed to serve  >b >s > Encompass Board Positionso >h > Board of Directors Mission:rH > The structure and purpose of the board of directors is governed by theD > bylaws of Encompass.  The board of directors has the authority andK > responsibility of day-to-day activities of the organization. However, the D > primary duty of the board is to concentrate on issues of strategic3 > importance to the future well being of Encompass.  >o
 > Reports to:I > Encompass membership.o >l > General Qualifications' > * Strong verbal communication skills.a( > * Strong written communication skills. > * Strong leadership ability. > * Strong presentation skills.5L > * Practical experience with HP enterprise products and services or related > products/services.3 > * Prior experience with a volunteer organization. @ > * Support from employer to fulfill the role of a board member.A > * Must be able to fill designated time commitments. (See below)o >1 > Time Commitment E > * Must be able to commit time required to the 3-year term of officeaF > * Must be able to attend one conference per year, totaling 4-5 days.L > * Must be able to attend three board meetings per year, totaling up to six > days.cH > * Must be available to participate in a one-hour conference call every > month.I > * Must be able to attend special conference calls or meetings called byh thea > President. >t > General Responsibilities6 > * Sets policy and strategic direction for ENCOMPASS.K > * Has fiduciary responsibility for ENCOMPASS activities.  Understands theiL > financials of the organization; actively participates in setting direction > for budget development.dJ > * Sets direction of ENCOMPASS' management firm to ensure that activities arelA > carried out in accordance with ENCOMPASS' goals and objectives.h7 > * Approves and monitors general activity and budgets.eI > * Maintains communication channels with HP and all levels of ENCOMPASS. L > * Participates in strategic planning sessions held by users groups, HP, or2 > other organizations that require non-disclosure.2 > * Must act in accordance with ENCOMPASS' Bylaws.= > * Must be able to represent ENCOMPASS to other user groups.t8 > * Votes on issues presented to the board by directors.E > * Must be able to act in any capacity as designated by the board ofg > directors. >a
 > BenefitsE > * Board members have the opportunity to be exposed to the ENCOMPASSeG > organization and make a significant contribution to the future of thep6 > industry, and to the future of HP product direction.K > * A director has the opportunity to make all pertinent business decisionsrI > necessary to grow and manage a dynamic small business in the technology-F > industry. Through interaction with ENCOMPASS' membership, a directorJ > provides direction and develops policy and procedures that contribute toJ > making ENCOMPASS a successful, sustained, highly effective organization.H > * A director can experience personal growth through the interchange of ideass9 > with HP and other vendors, peer groups, and executives.fH > * A director's company can receive enhanced exposure and access to HP.D > * Several areas of expense reimbursement; complimentary conference= > registration and housing; travel for all board meetings andr? > ENCOMPASS-related events requiring board representation, etc.h >/ > # > Encompass 2003 Board of Directorsy > Application/Candidate Profilet > For 2003 Electionb >v >r > Name:l >o
 > Company: >  > Mailing Address: >t >s > Business Telephone:b > Fax: > E-mail Address:t >fK > Elected positions: Encompass has three (3) director-at-large positions up  > for election. I > These positions will have terms of January 1, 2004 - December 31, 2006.  >tJ > If you are interested in being considered for nomination to the board ofE > directors, please complete this form. This will allow the volunteere electionK > committee to effectively and fairly evaluate all candidates for the boardu ofJ > director's openings (and determine a slate of candidates).  An interviewF > will also be set up by phone call with the committee to discuss your% > potential involvement in Encompass.d >n3 > Thank you for your interest in serving Encompass.  >e > COMPANY BACKGROUND > # > Describe your company's business:  >l >a >P > PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUNDn >d > Your job title:h > 4 > Please describe your primary job responsibilities: >  >  >n >M0 > What is the title of the person you report to: >s >T >4 >7D > Please describe your experience with strategic planning, or fiscal > responsibilities:o >i >e >g >  >e >v > STATEMENT OF INTENTIONSs >m, > Please respond to the following questions: >wI > 1. Please discuss why you would like to serve on the Encompass Board ofe > Directors. >. >  >e >u >oG > 2. Tell us about your accomplishments in Encompass or other volunteer  > organizations. >e >v >u >t > L > 3. What benefits do you expect to receive as a result of your election andJ > Board service?  What benefits do you expect Encompass to receive?   What1 > benefits do you expect your company to receive?  >o >c >i >h >/ >e >o >lK > Please return your complete and legible form to Encompass via mail or faxd by > May 28, 2003.. > K > Mailing Address: Encompass Headquarters, 401 North Michigan Avenue, Suite  > 2200, Chicago, IL 60611w > Fax Number: 312-673-4609 >i >r >e >  >  >t   ------------------------------   Date: 27 May 2003 21:55:44 GMT( From: ka2doug@cs.commoc.sc (DL Phillips)% Subject: Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64-> Message-ID: <20030527175544.14653.00000296@mb-m02.news.cs.com>   In message from: jsb@ost.cdrh.fda.gov :/ Date: 05/27/2003 12:00 PM Central Daylight Timeg/ Message-id: <3ED399A6.607DFDC@ost.cdrh.fda.gov>A   >Hoff Hoffman wrote:I >>   The maintenance of a firewall is a large and specialized engineering.I >>   project, and purpose-built dedicated (and commodity) firewall server G >>   appliance boxes provide a highly economical and effective solution  >vK >Your whole argument is rather shocking, since we all thought our VMS boxesl >werePJ >pretty darn secure out of the box.  In my experience, we are lucky if ourI >firewall solution runs on a unix platform.  Heck.  I know people who payl >money: >to run firewall software on Windows!  How secure is that? >tL >And what do people do when they run out of capacity on their single WindowsM >firewall platform?  They add two more, of course.  And then they "solve" themL >problems of routing around problems and load-levelling by buying still moreN >dedicated and not-so-commodity boxes from 3rd party vendors wired up fore andJ >aft in a rats nest of cabling, all running IP.  Such an arrangement is anL >incomprehensible monstrosity, IMHO.  Not only is there no single individual >whoK >really understand what such a firewall configuration is doing, but also nonH >single vendor is responsible for it!  The situation is crying out for a" >singe-vendor VMScluster solution. >   K I believe Mr. Hoffmans's post said "appliance" firewalls. I take that to bebM something like the WatchGuard brand boxes (not a reseller, just a user) whichlO you can buy on the low end for under US$400.00 for up to 10 client computers. InM read his post to say that he did NOT recommend a software solution running onnI any general purpose system. Also, that such an effort would not likely bew profitable.o  . I don't understand the replies to his message.    DL Phillips   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:33:53 GMT < From: "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp>% Subject: Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64g1 Message-ID: <lJRAa.1528$3%.1027@news.cpqcorp.net>a   DL Phillips wrote:   >>Hoff Hoffman wrote:  >>I >>>  The maintenance of a firewall is a large and specialized engineeringuI >>>  project, and purpose-built dedicated (and commodity) firewall serverbG >>>  appliance boxes provide a highly economical and effective solutiont >> > M > I believe Mr. Hoffmans's post said "appliance" firewalls. I take that to be O > something like the WatchGuard brand boxes (not a reseller, just a user) whichdQ > you can buy on the low end for under US$400.00 for up to 10 client computers. IvO > read his post to say that he did NOT recommend a software solution running on-K > any general purpose system. Also, that such an effort would not likely bea
 > profitable.   H The low-end firewall appliances sell in the U.S. for $30.00 and up, and H typically have 4 10/100 taps, and the ability to do network translation  for up to 254 client computers.'    E I may be wrong about this next statement because it has been a while u? since I looked at prices for other than the home router market:a  D There appears to be heavy competition in the firewall/router market E right now, and it does not appear that any general purpose operating eF system would be an economical replacement for a dedicated router that  can handle the same load.e  I Think of a firewall also as a circuit breaker.  Any system can fall down gF to a denial of service attack.  Having a firewall handle the noise of ; the network is much better than having your computer do so.e   -Johny! malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hpc Personal Opinion Onlyo   ------------------------------   Date: 27 May 2003 21:19 CDTs' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)a% Subject: Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64 - Message-ID: <27MAY200321190918@gerg.tamu.edu>   @ "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> writes... }DL Phillips wrote:n }>>Hoff Hoffman wrote: }>>,J }>>>  The maintenance of a firewall is a large and specialized engineeringJ }>>>  project, and purpose-built dedicated (and commodity) firewall serverH }>>>  appliance boxes provide a highly economical and effective solution }> aN }> I believe Mr. Hoffmans's post said "appliance" firewalls. I take that to beP }> something like the WatchGuard brand boxes (not a reseller, just a user) whichR }> you can buy on the low end for under US$400.00 for up to 10 client computers. IP }> read his post to say that he did NOT recommend a software solution running onL }> any general purpose system. Also, that such an effort would not likely be }> profitable. } I }The low-end firewall appliances sell in the U.S. for $30.00 and up, and aI }typically have 4 10/100 taps, and the ability to do network translation o  }for up to 254 client computers. } F }I may be wrong about this next statement because it has been a while @ }since I looked at prices for other than the home router market: } E }There appears to be heavy competition in the firewall/router market eF }right now, and it does not appear that any general purpose operating G }system would be an economical replacement for a dedicated router that n }can handle the same load. } J }Think of a firewall also as a circuit breaker.  Any system can fall down G }to a denial of service attack.  Having a firewall handle the noise of @< }the network is much better than having your computer do so. }  }-John" }malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp }Personal Opinion Only  9 For home or small office use, such a thing might be good.o  # For larger networks it is useless. $  C Consider a network with over 25,000 devices on it that is connectedpB to the outside world via a pair of OC-3 (155Mb/sec) lines. I thinkF you'd find the firewall you describe to be, shall we say, inadequate.   $ This is not unlike the TAMU network.  D Something is used for the higher end. At this point it is apparentlyA Unix systems that are used for this. I'm pretty sure that this isoC what TAMU is using - a Unix system that is running, I think, custome software written here.   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 23:40:50 +0200f2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)% Subject: Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64f; Message-ID: <3ed3db62.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   . Jonathan Boswell (jsb@ost.cdrh.fda.gov) wrote: > Hoff Hoffman wrote:.J > >   The maintenance of a firewall is a large and specialized engineeringJ > >   project, and purpose-built dedicated (and commodity) firewall serverH > >   appliance boxes provide a highly economical and effective solution > F > Your whole argument is rather shocking, since we all thought our VMSI > boxes were pretty darn secure out of the box.  In my experience, we are<H > lucky if our firewall solution runs on a unix platform.  Heck.  I knowJ > people who pay money to run firewall software on Windows!  How secure is > that?d  D Not very secure - bugs aside, if people use IPv6. Microsoft recentlyD admitted that if you install IPv6 on their firewall it wouldn't evenB try to filter it... The suggested workaround was to use some other vendor's firewall product :-)s   cu,n   Martin -- lF                           | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3  Cetero censeo            | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de:F  Redmondem delendam esse. |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:                           | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2003 22:30:45 -0700/ From: 68lu-um90@dea.spamcon.org (Phil Ottewell)a% Subject: Re: Firewall for VMS / TRU64r= Message-ID: <14cf5a52.0305272130.364616d6@posting.google.com>n  u "John E. Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> wrote in message news:<lJRAa.1528$3%.1027@news.cpqcorp.net>...c [snip]J > The low-end firewall appliances sell in the U.S. for $30.00 and up, and J > typically have 4 10/100 taps, and the ability to do network translation ! > for up to 254 client computers.d [snip]  G I have been using the LinkSys BEFSR41, with an Alpha, 3 VAXstations anddJ several Windows XP boxes behind it, for over 2 years now. You can get themL for about $50 new if you shop around a bit. I have had no problems with mineH and would definitely recommend it. There are similar models for wirelessI networks too. A VMS SNMP logging program I wrote for it is available fromrG http://www.pottsoft.com/pds/pds.html#LinkSysLog or you can download the C latest beta version by anonymous FTP to ftp.pottsoft.com - look foro LINKSYSLOG_BETA.ZIP .9   - Phil Ottewell@   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:30:37 +0200b+ From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>  Subject: Re: Firmware UpgradeV5 Message-ID: <bb0hti$4h3ft$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>e  / "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> schreef in berichtu( news:batt8b$tv7$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk.../ > Thank you. That solves that problem [I hope].e >n8 >  It pays to develop on 'trailing edge'  technology ;-) >t > Gary.i >t >e7 > "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net> wrote in messager1 > news:batsn3$3cc8g$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de...h > >d1 > > "Gary" <gmcd@totalise.co.uk> wrote in messageu, > > news:batrum$pie$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk... > > > Thanks for the reply - > > >01 > > > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("hw_model")y
 > > > 10690 > > > $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT  "''f$getsyi("hw_name") > > > DEC 3000 - M300LXo > > > $e > > >s > >oF > > You already have the latest firmware that will ever exist for this
 > machine. > >t  K You might get warnings that a more recent firmware version is desired. ThatuJ does not necessarily mean that VMS won't boot or run. The HP firmware page2 for the 3300 series (amd incidentally the 800) is:  @ http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readmes/as800.html  H That page states: "Firmware V5.8 was the last release for this system. "  K As John put it: that's all you'll ever see for that machine. FYI, I ran VMSI! 7.3 on a 3300 with that firmware. I It staid up for 120 days; then the lease contract expired and the machiner" was returned to the lease company.   Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 17:03:01 -0700T( From: Alan Frisbie <Abuse@NelsonUSA.com>  Subject: Re: FREE TO A GOOD HOME, Message-ID: <3ED3FCB5.6050206@NelsonUSA.com>   Lord Isildur wrote:o  . > the fujitsu eagles, i think, ran on 3-phase.  > No, it did not.   I have one in my house, and I can assure you! that it does not require 3-phase.   A I wish I *did* have 3-phase power to my house (for my CNC milling5A machine, etc.), but the Los Angeles Department of Water and PowereF seems to have some rule about "No 3-phase power in residential units"., Fortunately, phase converters are available.   Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:25:59 -0400=  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>  Subject: Re: FREE TO A GOOD HOME5 Message-ID: <1030527195925.2916C-100000@Ives.egh.com>   ( On Tue, 27 May 2003, Alan Frisbie wrote:   > Lord Isildur wrote:d > 0 > > the fujitsu eagles, i think, ran on 3-phase. > @ > No, it did not.   I have one in my house, and I can assure you# > that it does not require 3-phase.t > C > I wish I *did* have 3-phase power to my house (for my CNC millingrC > machine, etc.), but the Los Angeles Department of Water and PowersH > seems to have some rule about "No 3-phase power in residential units".. > Fortunately, phase converters are available. >  > Alan  > My sister lives in a very rural part of western Massachusetts.B She and my BIL own a crafts business that makes sheepskin clothing? (http://www.leprechaunsheepskin.com).  They used to work out ofe; their house and had several large strange machines in theiro= living room, including one my sister calls the clicker, which-A was 3-phase.  It is a stamping machine (1920's vintage) that theyo@ used to cut out parts by pressing specially-shaped steel cutting@ blades through stacks of sheepskins.  It makes a loud click when' the blade hits the platform underneath.t  @ I know it used 3-phase power because for several years it didn'tB work properly.  (I think it seemed sluggish and less powerful than> it had originally.)  Then they had someone work on it for some? reason, and he discovered one of the phases was wired backwardsaA and was fighting the other 2 phases instead of aiding them.  They 3 corrected the wiring, and suddenly it was like new.e  = There are lots of farms in the area; maybe the local electricd< company is more inclined to put in 3-phase because some farm equipment requires it?   -- w John Santosd Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 04:36:57 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)t  Subject: Re: FREE TO A GOOD HOME( Message-ID: <bb1ed9$g6k$2@pcls4.std.com>  " John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> writes:  A >I know it used 3-phase power because for several years it didn'trC >work properly.  (I think it seemed sluggish and less powerful than ? >it had originally.)  Then they had someone work on it for someo@ >reason, and he discovered one of the phases was wired backwardsB >and was fighting the other 2 phases instead of aiding them.  They4 >corrected the wiring, and suddenly it was like new.  K If two of the phase wires are reversed it (the motor) should run backwards, F not weakly.  Unless you meant that you could reverse one of the three C windings (6 wires to the motor), such as hot/neutral reversal if Y fH configured, but then I'd expect the motor to burn itself out. Maybe not, never tried it.n --   -Miker   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:09:45 -0000 4 From: wspencer@ap.org.nospam.please (Warren Spencer)0 Subject: Global Sections and %SYSTEM-F-PAGOWNVIO/ Message-ID: <vd7oh9spjepg12@news.supernews.com>e  	 Hi Folks,   M I find myself caught between an existing application, and Bridgeworks.  I've  M wrappered an existing application on the OpenVMS side, and it it turn maps a  ! global section when it starts up.=  K When I invoke the code locally on the OpenVMS box, using a simple main() I iM wrote in C, it works fine.  However, when I invoke it via Bridgeworks (via a  ! remote client), I get this error:3   %SYSTEM-F-PAGOWNVIOS   which is described as:  !  PAGOWNVIO,  page owner violation=  '   Facility:     SYSTEM, System Services=  N   Explanation:  An image attempted to change a page in memory that is owned byN                 a more privileged access mode. For example, an image executingK                 in user mode attempted to delete a page owned by supervisor                  mode.3  I   User Action:  Verify that pages referred to in system service calls aret1                 owned by the calling access mode.s  P My question is this:  How do I go about finding what is wrong here?  I have the K source for the app being wrappered, but I'm unsure what to go hunting for, iP being a little light as I am in the Global Section business. Could someone give 7 me a short checklist of items to inspect?  Many thanks!y   ws   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 11:53:24 -0700 . From: "David D Miller" <ddmiller@raytheon.com>/ Subject: Re: How to make a shadowed system diskpF Message-ID: <OFE95E5F27.3A2F3E94-ON07256D33.006706B4@rsc.raytheon.com>  	 Bob/Alan.n  I Great instructions.  I checked them last weekend on OVMS/VAX 7.3 and theyh  worked without a hitch.  Thanks.  G Just out of curiosity, what is the algorithm to determine the value for K SHADOW_SYS_UNIT?  For instance, how do I specify DKB0?  I couldn't find any " hints in the Shadow documentation.   dave.b    " Bob Ceculski & Alan Feldman wrote.   $ EDT MODPARAMS.DATn  
 ALLOCLASS=101h SHADOWING=2o SHADOW_SYS_DISK=1- SHADOW_SYS_UNIT=0  SHADOW_MAX_COPY=20 SHADOW_SYS_TMO=20r  > then run autogen and reboot.  The above configuration is for a; shadow set of 2 disks with "DKA0" being the primary member.-( When rebooted, mount the 2nd member with  D $ MOUNT/SYSTEM/NOASSIST DSA0:/SHADOW=($101$DKA0,$101$DKA100) SHADOW1  A Of course you substitute in your allocation class and drive names < accordingly.  There is a shadow doc set you can buy when youB purchase a shadow license, which I assume you have.  The secondary< member will build with a copy operation, and you can see the status with "SHOW DEVICE".  < WARNING!!! Do not put MOUNT command in your startup files toB add members to the system disk shadow set. You only need to run itF once interactively. The next time the system boots, it will attempt toC reconstruct the system disk shadow set as it was at the time of the C shutdown (assuming, of course, that the specified boot device was ah7 member of said shadow set at the time of the shutdown).n   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:10:32 +0100 (MET)y9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>r/ Subject: Re: How to make a shadowed system diskw; Message-ID: <01KWEETMK6MCAKVGCS@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   K > Great instructions.  I checked them last weekend on OVMS/VAX 7.3 and they " > worked without a hitch.  Thanks. > I > Just out of curiosity, what is the algorithm to determine the value fornM > SHADOW_SYS_UNIT?  For instance, how do I specify DKB0?  I couldn't find anya$ > hints in the Shadow documentation.  I You can choose any value (in the range allowed) for SHADOW_SYS_UNIT.  If yH you choose n, the device will show up as DSAn.  It's always A; there is I no DSBn.  DKB0 would be a SCSI disk.  A shadow set might consist of SCSI g disks, but is not one itself.y  I Many folks use 0, so they have DSA0, especially for the system disk, but k) it doesn't matter what number you choose.   H If you don't like the A, just refer to it as DSn; A is the default.  :-)  H On my hobbyist cluster at home, I have names like DSA1116 and DSA1235.  G The first digit is the allocation-class number of the system hosting a eI member on the SCSI ID corresponding to the second digit; the third digit %E is the allocation-class number of the system hosting a member on the  F SCSI ID corresponding to the fourth digit.  This allows me to quickly C identify the members of a shadow set when necessary.  Normally, of -H course, I use logical names for all disk references, but when I have to C physically do something with the disks (split a shadow set etc) of gD course I have to know what physical disks are in the shadow set and  where they are located.o  G Obviously, this numbering scheme will break down if I had more than two)H members per shadow set or more than one controller per node, but I don'tH foresee either of these things happening in my hobbyist cluster any time soon.   H Since I don't have (or need) any dual-ported disks, I have a two-member I shadow set for the system disk on each machine with obviously both disks tB connected to that node; for non-system disks, each member is on a  separate node.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:00:44 -0500t/ From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com>o. Subject: Re: Looking for keyboard model number8 Message-ID: <a528dv08tnuls7s83knbd9ik7c29qnla3i@4ax.com>  P I know that the ones I saw were real DEC keyboards with a DEC LKxxx part number.   Clay  R On 27 May 2003 11:28:01 -0500, newton_l@encompasserve.org (Lawrence Newton) wrote:  k >In article <svv2dv036hv39m6vjpnubp22fasf5hs0rs@4ax.com>, Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> writes:r] >> Digital made a version of the LK4xx keyboard that fit into a tray in a rack.  This had theaK >> complete keyboard layout, function keys, cursor keys, but the keypad was.Z >> embedded/overlayed on the regular keyboard and accessed with a function key.  I've onlyX >> seen one of these, looked at the model #, and forgot it before I could write it down.W >> Anyone out there have the part number for this - or better yet - one they'd sell me?a >> o
 >> Thanks, >> Claym >sN >I have two of what I think you want. Used as a console for a DS20E and a pair >of ES40's in a cluster. n >nN >  The info on the bottom is not clear. Brand name is Cherry, made in Germany. >a) >  Model MY 1800   Article G81-1800HPU/03e >r# >  Also has   E75282  and LR 63292.. >uD >  One of them failed and Compaq at the time had a problem finding a  >  replacement. Hope this helps. >u >  Lawrencen   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:38:36 -0400d2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger). Subject: Re: Looking for keyboard model numberL Message-ID: <rdeininger-2705032138370001@user-105n93e.dialup.mindspring.com>  G In article <svv2dv036hv39m6vjpnubp22fasf5hs0rs@4ax.com>, Clay M. Dentonm! <denton@orison.dsserv.com> wrote:e  G >Digital made a version of the LK4xx keyboard that fit into a tray in at rack.  This had the I >complete keyboard layout, function keys, cursor keys, but the keypad wasrH >embedded/overlayed on the regular keyboard and accessed with a function key.  I've only G >seen one of these, looked at the model #, and forgot it before I coulde write it down.E >Anyone out there have the part number for this - or better yet - ones they'd sell me?   G Maybe you are looking for an LK421?  This is a narrow keyboard, only assJ wide as the main group of keys on a "normal" keyboard.  It has an "Extend"H key to let you simulate the extra keypad keys that are missing.  I thinkJ this one is pre-PS2; it would have been for early alpha systems, and maybe late-model vaxes.e  " I don't have one available, sorry.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 13:56:17 -0400f* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>6 Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN2 Message-ID: <5qGdnfKuBa7MOk6jXTWcqQ@metrocast.net>  - "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com> wrote in message 9 news:kuff-12A4C0.05211827052003@news-east.giganews.com...  >u >    2000 miles...  I One way?  That's close to 40 milliseconds round-trip on a dedicated line,lL even ignoring repeater delay:  it's going to be noticeable in terms of writeK latency (even if you restrict it to journal writes - which wouldn't supporteI concurrent read-only access at the far end and may not be feasible at all.A using standard RMS mechanisms).  If you want actual transactionala> consistency between the two end-points, it may be even slower.  B People usually have to settle for asynchronous replication at suchJ distances:  it guarantees a consistent image on the far end, but it may be, at least a fraction of a second out of date.   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 17:55:41 -0400n  From: Hal Kuff <kuff@tessco.com>6 Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN? Message-ID: <kuff-F7ED50.17554127052003@news-east.giganews.com>n  2 In article <5qGdnfKuBa7MOk6jXTWcqQ@metrocast.net>,,  "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote:  / > "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com> wrote in messagee; > news:kuff-12A4C0.05211827052003@news-east.giganews.com...p > >  > >    2000 miles... > K > One way?  That's close to 40 milliseconds round-trip on a dedicated line,sN > even ignoring repeater delay:  it's going to be noticeable in terms of writeM > latency (even if you restrict it to journal writes - which wouldn't supportrK > concurrent read-only access at the far end and may not be feasible at allgC > using standard RMS mechanisms).  If you want actual transactional @ > consistency between the two end-points, it may be even slower. > D > People usually have to settle for asynchronous replication at suchL > distances:  it guarantees a consistent image on the far end, but it may be. > at least a fraction of a second out of date. >  > - bill >  >  >     F    Well, what's wrong with replicating the journal files... they will H always be a bot behind.... there seem to be two possibilities... one is H to use the remote shadow product fron advsyscon... the second is to use G the Compaq NAS head pair and mount the NFS disk from OpenVMS....  That pE way the NAS box keeps things legit between the sites.... if site one /G crashes apply the journal files... we would of coure apply the journal   files each nite anyway...p   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:56:12 -0400) From: Everhart <ge@gce.com>u6 Subject: Re: Mirroring Files in real time across a WAN+ Message-ID: <bb0tvp$n9k$1@bob.news.rcn.net>u   Nic Clews wrote:   > Hal Kuff wrote:o > C >>   We have a T-3 between two facilities... that yields a speed of   >>perhaps 20 gigabytes per hour. >>G >>   We are looking for a way to write bit map mirror files between theeD >>two sites.  HP makes a NAS head that would do this via NFS shares. >  > F > There is or was something called "virtuoso" IIRC, and even if I haveF > spelled it correctly. Came from the same stable as the Iris terminalH > monitoring software. This could mirror files or volumes (In some cases# > mirroring a file is more useful).b > D The first one to suggest a system for remote shadowing was I believeI Larry Robertson (of Bear Software at least last I heard) somewhere in theeG mid 1980s if I recall rightly. We spoke about it during a DECUS meeting G and he came out with it shortly afterwards. His idea (which some others:J copied) was to have a shadow disk in which writing was buffered locally toJ go to a remote disk over the network, with a large enough buffer I believeG on the local system on nonvolatile store to handle writes to the remoteeI and give an asymptotically exact shadow copy as long as the aggregate nettE bandwidth was enough to keep up with writes. If the network went downuJ it could ride out some outages, but on a hard failure the thing would haveH to recover the unmoved writes to the remote shadow before anything else.  M His system did not attempt to intercept driver start-io, which saved him from0L some corruption issues which came up at one time for people who did. He toldE me another company took his product idea and heavily advertised theiriF clone of it which lost him most chance to profit by it. Larry's systemF shadowed volumes if I recall rightly. Hadn't heard of anyone trying toF shadow files (except for Dave Schmidt who has been doing it for years,H possibly before ANYONE else) till I discussed it with Bill Davy maybe 12E years ago and we decided it would be a decent approach for defraggingeI open files. The mechanics of shadow catchup are exactly the same and haver the same key issues.  M It may be Larry still has his remote shadow package available. If so it mightnL be at bearcomp.com which was his domain last I checked (again, several yearsI back). He did a number of very clever things and had the neatest name fornJ himself of anyone in the community that I recall..."The VMS Proctologist".   Glenn Everhart   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:11:14 -0400e< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>3 Subject: Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.o5 Message-ID: <bb0d8j$4h7ig$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>E    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: > (Robert Deininger) writes: >...= >> As I understand it, DECevent and Compaq Analyze originatede in the9 >> service organization, not VMS Engineering.  Both toolss
 attempt to >> support multiple OS's.   ; Don't forget that DSN 2.0 and 3.0 were also produced by thep8 same people. I do not know who produced DSN 1.2C, but it9 extremely good at what it did, DSN 2.0 and 3.0 were giantw> steps backwards. Compaq Analyze was light years behind where a> VMS product should be when I last looked at it. (To be fair, I7 think there have been 2 new versions of CA since I last = looked, but my first experiences with it were so bad I refuses to try it again.)t   >m > <RANT>' > And the point for a VMS customer is ? > > Why does VMS engineering not extend ANAL/ERROR's features to	 correctlys; > display (and if they are at it, maybe even interpret) the  logged- > errors. Isn't it a shame, that one gets nowu > ...r > And you find this tolerable ?f	 > </RANT>m >...   No!t  < Anyone who has a machine new enough to require CA should get8 your hardware service people to agree to run CA on their< machines for you. Even they hate it (last I talked to anyone6 involved) but I would rather have them run it than me.   -- Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.g) Serving Southern Ontario/Western New York    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:33:40 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)3 Subject: Re: New [to me] error showing in errorlog.i3 Message-ID: <EYPAa.66035$Kn1.646191@news.chello.at>O  t In article <bb0d8j$4h7ig$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>, "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> writes:= >Anyone who has a machine new enough to require CA should getp9 >your hardware service people to agree to run CA on their = >machines for you. Even they hate it (last I talked to anyoneE7 >involved) but I would rather have them run it than me.r  ( How to do this as a OpenVMS hobbyist ???; What masochists^Wfield service people will do this for us ?S   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERl% Network and OpenVMS system specialistP E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:08:44 +0100 ' From: Elliott Roper <elliott@yrl.co.uk> < Subject: Re: NT: son of VMS? (was Re: Portents of VMS death)2 Message-ID: <270520032108440100%elliott@yrl.co.uk>  2 In article <3ED39E6B.265482D0@istop.com>, JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:   > Duncan Macdonald wrote:iN > > He was also responsible for a LOT of RSX11M (over half the OS sources have > > hisiK > > name on them). (In its day RSX11M was probably the best minicomputer OSs
 > > aroundH > > - as solid as VMS - full multiuser/multitasking/real-time and usable. > > (multiuser) from 96KBytes memory upwards.) > K > 1-just because your name appears in the source code doesn't mean that you P > wrote it. He could have just maintained, debugged code written by someone elseN > in the team. Now if he is listed as original author, then yeah, it gives himO > some credit, but if the source was dramatically changed by others afterwards,c > is it still him ?x > J > And as far as VMS is concerned, while he may have had pieces of his codeG > survive to this day, how much of it wasn't rewritten or substantially  > modified ?F The RSX-11/M kernel is practically pure Dave Cutler. And *very* prettyD it was too. The 11M I/O system is clearly the ancestor or VMS's I/O.G You can see bits of 11M in NT's I/O. Not at all surprising, considering:= his career moves. If you have had some great ideas as a youngf= programmer, there's no reason not to re-express them in a neweE environment with similar ..err.. challenges. I know that some of *my*J8 best work was from ideas nicked from Dave Cutler's code.E By no means all of RSX-11 was Cutler. There is a story that he took a,E few weeks off 'sick' from the 11-D project which was running severely D over its memory budget and came back with the first 11/M, running in; 8KW(ords) instead of not quite running in 48KW as 11-D was.d  B A few of the 11/M drivers belonged to others, notably the terminalD driver; and most of the utilities and tools made their way from 11/D  E The two were sold in parallel for considerable time. 11/D disappearedRD into IAS, 11/M grew warts and became 11M Plus, gathering many of theE worst features of 11/D, mainly a horribly bodged up command line thatiF restored type-ahead to the user, and lost the source distribution thatD enabled 11/M to be so tiny by sysgenning every last wasted byte from the kernel and drivers.,  D 11/M was preferred for small machines. 11/D was used on bigger boxesF where the price of memory mattered less. I could never understand why.! 11/M whooped it, even on 11/70's.t  G I don't know this first hand, but there are plenty of secondary sourcesT7 that claim Dave had little influence over VMS after V1.o  P > I realise that some of the structures he designed probably survived, but wouldI > the code have, considering the port to Alpha and now the port to IA64 ?o  D Probably not. There might be a little Bliss, but you'd think the VAXD macro would have gone by now. I bet the ideas behind the I/O are not@ changed that much. There are only so many ways to dispatch a QIO completion.3   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:42:03 GMTn3 From: "George Samuelson" <samuelsong@insightbb.com> " Subject: OpenVMS VAX V7.3 for sale. Message-ID: <LYQAa.746653$OV.680429@rwcrnsc54>  = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3026986957u  L OpenVMS VAX V7.3+SPL up for auction on eBay. Starting bid is $15.99, and you can Buy It Now for $102.00.s   Any questions please ask.g   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:47:45 GMT9* From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>' Subject: Re: Printers and LAT questionse5 Message-ID: <270520031733214978%paul.anderson@hp.com>e  2 In article <3ED317E8.F5FAA5E6@istop.com>, JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote:   > So, I went ahead and did a c > MC LATCP/CREATE PORT LTA10: 
 > followed byh> > MC LATCP SET PORT LTA10: /NODE=LAT_0040af1604b8/PORT=PORT_1 M > and it worked, without having to go to NCP or LANCP to configure that node.  > N > Is LAT_<ethernet> a specific nomenclature that doesn't require you enter theP > equivalence between node name and ethernet address as you would normally do on > a terminal server ?y  A The commands you entered are all you need for a LAT printer.  ThecF printer's network card is emulating a terminal server.  But there's no port except PORT_1...b  L > I haven't figured out how to change the LAT node name of the printer, so IE > guess I will be stuck with that one, not that it matters that much.   H ...and there's no way on the DEClaser 5100 to change the LAT node name. B Later Compaq and Genicom printers allow you to change the LAT node name.g   > Also, I tried the following: > & > COPY recipe.ps,ingredients.ps LTA10:  E Straight LAT is unfriendly to PostScript files.  There's something ate@ the end of the first, or beginning of the second, which is beingB changed by LAT and is confusing the printer.  Use DCPS which would7 allow you to PRINT recipe.ps,ingredients.ps queue_name.U   Paul   --    Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineerings   Hewlett-Packard Companyc   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:14:17 -0400h* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>' Subject: Re: Printers and LAT questionss) Message-ID: <3ED3F144.60CC99CD@istop.com>-   Paul Anderson wrote:? > > MC LATCP SET PORT LTA10: /NODE=LAT_0040af1604b8/PORT=PORT_1<  C > The commands you entered are all you need for a LAT printer.  The6H > printer's network card is emulating a terminal server.  But there's no > port except PORT_1...e  J But how does VMS figure out how to reach that node ? (eg: how come I don'tJ need to enter its ethernet address). As far as I know, the printer doesn't broadcast a service, right ? i   > Use DCPS which would9 > allow you to PRINT recipe.ps,ingredients.ps queue_name.s    K Yep, set it up. But I still wondered about why copy a.ps,b.ps lta10: didn't  quite work as expected.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:58:18 -0400r  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>' Subject: Re: Printers and LAT questionsm5 Message-ID: <1030527194943.2916B-100000@Ives.egh.com>p  $ On Tue, 27 May 2003, JF Mezei wrote:   > Paul Anderson wrote:A > > > MC LATCP SET PORT LTA10: /NODE=LAT_0040af1604b8/PORT=PORT_10 > E > > The commands you entered are all you need for a LAT printer.  TherJ > > printer's network card is emulating a terminal server.  But there's no > > port except PORT_1...i > L > But how does VMS figure out how to reach that node ? (eg: how come I don'tL > need to enter its ethernet address). As far as I know, the printer doesn't > broadcast a service, right ?    I Yes, LAT servers *do* broadcast their service info, including their name.nJ This is one of the reasons LAT is "Local".  (They don't need to explicitlyM broadcast their ethernet address, since it is included in the packet header.)r  e > > Use DCPS which would; > > allow you to PRINT recipe.ps,ingredients.ps queue_name.g >  > M > Yep, set it up. But I still wondered about why copy a.ps,b.ps lta10: didn'tO > quite work as expected.-  D Don't know, but it is likely that copy is copying a.ps to lta10:a.psD and then b.ps to lta0:b.ps, closing the output file after each copy.  H When the lta device is closed, the driver tears down the LAT connection,D so the printer will see the end of the each file as a separate printB job.  Are a.ps and b.ps independent postscript files, or does b.ps& depend on initialization done by a.ps?     $ append a.ps,b.ps lta10:)   might work better...   -- c John Santosd Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:27:28 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>' Subject: Re: Printers and LAT questions ) Message-ID: <3ED41E8F.CF359F22@istop.com>4   John Santos wrote:K > Yes, LAT servers *do* broadcast their service info, including their name.e  H Service yes. But a printer doesn't advertise availability of a service. D (Eg: MC LATCP SHOW SERVICES doesn't show anything from the printer).  F > Don't know, but it is likely that copy is copying a.ps to lta10:a.psF > and then b.ps to lta0:b.ps, closing the output file after each copy.  L Perhaps this is the case. Which is why I asked the question. Figured someone' here would know about how COPY behaves.t  D > job.  Are a.ps and b.ps independent postscript files, or does b.ps( > depend on initialization done by a.ps?  K b depends on a which is why I noticed since the printer complained that alll1 the functions defined by a were unavailable to b.e   >   $ append a.ps,b.ps lta10:a  7 Will try this tomorrow when i next use that postscript.y   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:30:13 -0400h+ From: "Ron Milen" <milenronald@mailbag.net>tL Subject: Re: Unix/VMS conceptual differences, was: Re: Portents of VMS death! Message-ID: <3ed4029d_2@newsfeed>o  L Let's be fair.  UNIX predates VMS & was created by a group of computer geeksC & then evolved over time.  VMS, on the other hand, was a deliberate K architechure design, both hardware & software, created with the stated goal.J of lasting at least 25 years (I could be wrong about the time frame, but IC know it was at least 20 years).  IMHO, the system's architects were I visionaries who were wildly successful in achieving their objective.  ToofJ bad DEC marketing/management didn't have the necessary visionaries to sell' it to the market the way Billy boy has.e  	 Ron Milen. milenronald@yahoo.com-  5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message 7 news:d7791aa1.0305270906.2b3dd9df@posting.google.com...)G > clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) wrote inf7 message news:<e5G1dN1A3alS@eisner.encompasserve.org>.... > > In articleA <rdeininger-2605031118540001@user-105n92m.dialup.mindspring.com>,s4 rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes: > > >oH > > > Calls are rather light on VMS.  Fork() is a well-known performanceJ > > > problem, and anyone with a clue chooses an algorithm that uses it as > > > little as possbile.  > > >t > >tL > > Don't forget that much of the functionality that requires fork() on Unix is( > > implemented very differently on VMS. > >uJ > > The most recent example I have is the use of pseudo terminals. In Unix landK > > they are implemented [*] in such a way that fork() is mandatory. In VMSs land,  > > we have the PT$* routines. > >y
 > > Simon. > >nG > > [*] BTW, note that every Unix has implemented pseudo terminals veryrF > > differently, so any code that needs to run on a wide range on Unix systemslB > > has a mass of exception code in it to handle all the variants. > > E > > Reading something like the Emacs source code is most interesting.a >sF > and unlike unix, VMS acutally has security ... not mentioning "real"9 > clustering, better real time, and is not convuluted ...-   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:17:56 -0400., From: "Island" <dbturner@nospamislandco.com> Subject: URL changeg/ Message-ID: <vd7i253p7vni45@news.supernews.com>e  L Island has now officially changed over from www.islandco.com to www.hpaq.net  = All email addresses remain valid but with the hpaq.net suffixo  & Please ammend your records accordingly   Thanks   -- p David B Turner Island Computers US Corporationb 2700 Gregory St., Suite 180o Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622  Fax: 912 201 0402e Email: dbturner@hpaq.net http://www.hpaq.netA   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:06:54 -0400o* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: URL changed) Message-ID: <3ED3EF89.68E0B837@istop.com>y  
 Island wrote:e > N > Island has now officially changed over from www.islandco.com to www.hpaq.net  K Hopefully you will keep tyhe islandco.com domain for a VERY VERY long time.y" You are known as island computers.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:35:54 -0400 , From: "David Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com> Subject: Re: URL change2/ Message-ID: <vd7tr4bo4br4f5@news.supernews.com>v  H yes we will - just having a lot of problems with our old ISP getting DNSF changes done (I think they may behaving financial problems) - HPAQ.NETF actually does work fine as we host our own site on our own lovely DS10G (which has been up and running on Tru64 5.1a for 8 months without beingg touched)D Our old ISP went down at least twice a week for at least 4 hours per- problem - see why we host our own site ??!??!D   DT   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:36:50 -0400g, From: "David Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com> Subject: Re: URL changer/ Message-ID: <vd7tsv9h83vv0d@news.supernews.com>t  5 Out of curiosity - how is our reputation these days ?'  6 I really don't like to ask people but I am now curious   DT   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:24:31 GMT 4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton) Subject: Re: URL changer= Message-ID: <3lTAa.23151$_t5.11754@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>t  ^ In article <vd7tsv9h83vv0d@news.supernews.com>, "David Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com> writes:6 >Out of curiosity - how is our reputation these days ? > 7 >I really don't like to ask people but I am now curious  >s >DTe  O I can't speak for others, but I have had consistently good experiences with youIH and your company; if my experience is typical, then I can recommend your company to others.    A _________________________________________________________________-0 Bradford J. Hamilton			"All opinions are my own"/ bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm		"Lose the MAPS"n   ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2003 23:01:43 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: URL changen3 Message-ID: <+rOuzAuYFHCf@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ^ In article <vd7tsv9h83vv0d@news.supernews.com>, "David Turner" <dbturner@islandco.com> writes:7 > Out of curiosity - how is our reputation these days ?u  E Well, you have stopped posting off-topic PC sales ads to comp.os.vms,  if that is what you mean :-)  A You have also provided valuable technical assistance in newsgroupn2 situations that did not involve selling something.  7 So you are certainly headed toward the top of the heap.   E If you want to set a record, I would advise not trying to head toward@E being the worst poster in the newsgroup, as there are a few championsi" you have no hope of overtaking :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:18:10 -0400u* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: Re: URL change ( Message-ID: <3ED43879.5DB2A1C@istop.com>  M Tried to do a OPtiosn/Parts serach and got: (did you say your web site ran one Tru64 alpha ?)   Error Diagnostic Information  >  ODBC Error Code = 28000 (Invalid authorization specification)  Q  [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Login failed for user 'islandco'.a  K  SQL = "CREATE TABLE temp_1Z00H46R_a ( time_sig datetime, part_num nvarcharg& (255) NULL, description nvarchar (255)A  NULL, price nvarchar (255) NULL, cust_num nvarchar (255) NULL )"g    Data Source = "ISLANDCO_2"o  L  The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of. (CFQUERY), occupying document position (385:4)Q  to (385:64) in the template file D:\INETPUB\WWWROOT\DOMAINS\ISLANDCO\SEARCH.CFM.f    Date/Time: 05/28/03 00:19:39c*  Browser: Mozilla/4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC)  Remote Address: 66.11.160.74p6  HTTP Referrer: http://www.hpaq.net/parts_options.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:34:26 -0500T/ From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> I Subject: VS3100 Power Supply (Was: AlphaStation 255/500 power up problem)t3 Message-ID: <3ED3D9E2.78987B86@applied-synergy.com>r   Phillip Helbig wrote:d > I > While I'm at it: can I just take the power supply out of a 3100 M30 ande > use it in the 3100 M38?n   Yes.  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------n$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com a   Fax: 817-237-3074    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.293 ************************