0 INFO-VAX	Thu, 02 Feb 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 65      Contents:$ Central Pro 5.1 documentation needed& Cisco to sink: names Capellas to board' Re: Differences between KA690 and KA691 , Re: Here it is: OpenVMS/Alpha on a simulator' Re: Identify the source of a machinechk  Phaser 560 and DCPS problem  Re: Phaser 560 and DCPS problem  Re: SimH V3.5-2 released Re: Splitting serial cables ?  Re: Splitting serial cables ?  Re: Splitting serial cables ?  Re: Splitting serial cables ?  Re: Splitting serial cables ? ' Re: The Pentium Chronicles (2006.01.31) , Re: VMS TCPIP NFS (novice filesystem sharer)  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:43:48 -0800/ From: "Fred Hoenisch" <Fred.Hoenisch@gov.bc.ca> - Subject: Central Pro 5.1 documentation needed  Message-ID: <43e139a2$1@flight>   L Does anyone know where I could lay my hands on Central Pro 5.1 (for OpenVMS)K documentation?  The product used to be known as JetForm.  Anyway, I believe K 5.1 was the last version before VMS support was dropped and I'm not sure if J it was Adobe (or the previous owners) who dropped VMS.  Anyway, my initialG attempts to obtain this through Adobe haven't been fruitful.  I'm still J trying through Adobe but thought I'd post here if someone can help me out.   Thanks,  Fred     --  J Disclaimer: Any comments made are personal and do not reflect the thoughts or policies of this company.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:25:11 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> / Subject: Cisco to sink: names Capellas to board , Message-ID: <43E16D76.800BD484@teksavvy.com>   http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/   & Curly has been named to Cisco's board.  + At least they acknowledged his limitations:   ( "Michael is a seasoned general manager".  F That is about all he is. Hopefully Cisco will not let Curly damage theH company.   The message though is that Cisco is now opened for bids to be taken over/dismantled.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:32:13 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 0 Subject: Re: Differences between KA690 and KA691+ Message-ID: <43E136E9.D84555F@teksavvy.com>    Rich Jordan wrote:$ > Per the April and October 1993 SOC > , > Model   TPS   CPU Clock   Cache chip/board, > 400      51       63MHz         10KB/128KB, > 500      68       72MHz         10KB/128KB- > 500a     116      72MHz          10KB/128KB - > 600       103     83MHz          10KB/512KB - > 600a     183      83MHz          10KB/512KB * > 700a     253     100MHz         10KB/2MB > G > Max I/O Throughput listed 16.3MB/s on the ### models, and 20.6MB/s on D > the -a models.  I could not find descriptive info on the technical% > differences between the model sets.   D Thanks. Interesting that the above lists the 600A as 83 mhz, but theG only clock I could see on the motherboard was 333mhz. Not quite exactly  4 times the 83 mhz.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:56:42 -0000 1 From: wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) 5 Subject: Re: Here it is: OpenVMS/Alpha on a simulator 1 Message-ID: <975D9948Fwspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>   9 Perhaps this info is on the site, but I couldn't find it:   " - Is OpenVMS clustering supported? - Volume Shadowing? L - Can it co-exist on my pc with it's own IP address, or does one of us have  to give up the NIC? H - There's some confusion as to whether it supports only 6.2, or 6.2 and  above   I And a suggestion:  How about putting an instance on the net where we can   telnet in and check things out?    tia,   ws   --   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press  9 arie@zeepost.nl (Arie) wrote in <1138054671.491533.185960  @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:   G >Well yes, we have. When you look at our webpage www.personalalpha.com, B >you will find exactly what you need, I think. Just an hour ago weF >presented this product to the OpenVMS ambassadors during their annual	 >meeting.  > $ >Let me know your thoughts about it. >  >Thanks, >  >Arie de Groot >Emulators International >The Netherlands >www.emulatorsinternational.com  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:42:09 -0500* From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>0 Subject: Re: Identify the source of a machinechk, Message-ID: <43e11d22$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  H Correct, you need someone/thing that can decode the machine check logout frame.    ; "Bob Blunt" <RobertDOTblunt@digitalDOTcom> wrote in message * news:zc6dnUHD9N2Sn3zeRVn-qQ@comcast.com... > Christoph Gartmann wrote: C > > In article <drq6i5$k85$1@lore.csc.com>, Ade@nowhere.com writes:  > > J > >>We have an ES40 which keeps crashing with a machine check value of 215K > >>with no current process. Is it possible to trace the source of a device  > >>causing this error?  > >>% > >>Any pointers gratefully accepted.  > >  > >  > > Try: > >   $ ANALYZE/SYSTEM > >   SDA> CLUE CRASH  > > D > > Anything in the operator.log file? If DECevent is up and running
 ANALYZE/ERROR  > > may help as well.  > >  > > Regards, > >    Christoph Gartmann  > >  > I > The ES40 requires passing the errorlog thru CA/WSEA.  DECevent would be I > some help, but may not properly translate conditions.  Depending on the E > OpenVMS version, you MIGHT possibly be able to use ANA/ERR (need to G > check the other required switches too), but it'll need to be at least I > OpenVMS V7.3-2 or newer.  WSEA is your best bet.  If you have a support @ > contract for the system ERRLOG.SYS can be FTP'd to the CSC and > translated there...  >  > bob  >    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Feb 2006 16:25:42 -0800 , From: "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com>$ Subject: Phaser 560 and DCPS problemC Message-ID: <1138839942.678083.287510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   E I am trying to get a Xerox ( Tektronix) Phaser 560 PS printer to work > on a Vax ( using the VMS FAQ and the DCPS Management Guide) asG references. I have DCPS 2.1 installed on VMS 7.3, but the Phaser 560 is D not listed. I extracted the Xerox Phaser 750 files on a "long shot",B and created a new device control library w/ them...so far so good.    I have a queue set up as follows  F Printer queue PHASER, idle, on EMAC73::"IP_RAWTCP/208.246.88.20:9100",) mounted form DCPS$DEFAULT (stock=DEFAULT) ?   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FORM=DCPS$DEFAULT (stock=DEFAULT)) ; /NOENABLE_GENERIC /LIBRARY=SYS$LIBRARY:PHASER560_DEVCTL.TLB /   Lowercase /OWNER=[SYSTEM] /PROCESSOR=DCPS$SMB 0 /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) /SCHEDULE=(NOSIZE) /SEPARATE=(BURST,TRAILER)     > It tries to print (the Phaser light blinks). but then it gives  5 Queue PHASER: %DCPS-W-NOT_READY, Printer is not ready   C and just "hangs" repeating the above periodically....So close...Any  ideas of suggestions?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:58:02 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ( Subject: Re: Phaser 560 and DCPS problem, Message-ID: <43E1590E.F697F2DF@teksavvy.com>   rcyoung wrote:7 > Queue PHASER: %DCPS-W-NOT_READY, Printer is not ready  > E > and just "hangs" repeating the above periodically....So close...Any  > ideas of suggestions?     - $ DEFINE /EXECUTIVE_MODE /SYSTEM DCPS$TEST 1   $STOP/QUEUE/NEXT xxx $START/QUEUE xxx- $ PRINT /PARAMETERS=DIAG=FILE=BOTH/queue=xxxx   E This creates 2 log files in the sys$login: directory of the submittor ? which will contain the actual dialogue to and from the printer.   E It is likely that DCPS is sending come postscript code to the printer F expecting a response and the printer doesn't recognise the command and doesn't repond.   A Do you have a printer which works ? If so, you can also trace its 3 dialogue to see what sort of response DCPS expects.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 15:36:01 -0500 1 From: Bob Supnik <bob.supnik@sicortex.nospam.com> ! Subject: Re: SimH V3.5-2 released 8 Message-ID: <j662u1pii69om6k7hri8b6ggvvvnd6tb40@4ax.com>  - Yeah, I knew I should have written this up ;)   D First, it's always possible that the current VMB can boot an earlier" VMS.  It's certainly worth trying.  C Second, if you need to get a program off a console floppy, then the # procedure is (something like) this:   6 - Make an image copy of the floppy to your hard drive.F - Using one of the tools that understands RT11 disk format (PUTR worksF great on Windows systems), extract the file you need (whether it's VMB8 or standalone backup, etc) to a file on the host system.E - Load the extracted file into the simulator at the address specified  in the 780's control file:  , 	LOAD -o <extracted_file.ext> <load_address>  D - If the extracted file is going to read further data off the floppy9 drive, attach the floppy image to the simulator's floppy:    	ATT rx0 <image_file.ext>   C - Start the simulator at the address specified in the 780's control  file:    	RUN <start_address>  C If you look at the sources, you will see that the current VMB-based $ boot sequence is doing no more than:   	LOAD -o VMB.EXE 200 	RUN 200  / It would be a nice extension to have a command:    	FLOAD <file_name> <origin>   = That would dissect an attached RT11 floppy image and load the E appropriate file; this would be closer to the operational flavor of a D real 780.  If anyone in the user community wants to do the core codeE for this (ie, finding a file by name in the image and returning it as > a contiguous stream of bytes), I'll integrate it into the next simulator release.   /Bob Supnik   2 On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:34:34 +0100, Christian Corti2 <Christian.Corti@studserv.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:  C >In alt.sys.pdp11 vaxorcist <hoelscher-kirchbrak@freenet.de> wrote: 4 >> I have tested the SIMH VAX-11/780 emulator under: >> - VMS V1.5 (new) 
 >> - VMS V3.0 
 >> - VMS V3.2 
 >> - VMS V3.5 $ >> without any bigger problems :-))  > I >How? I do have V3.0 and up till V5.0, but these tapes aren't bootable. I F >do have some RX01 floppies for the console front end, but I can't use$ >them with the VAX-11/780 simulator: >  >VAX780 simulator V3.5-2 >sim> att rx0 disk.dsk >RX: buffering file in memory  >sim> boot rx0 >Invalid argument  >sim>  > I >But the standalone backup is on one of those disks, and I also have some " >disks with diags etc. What to do? > 
 >Christian   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Feb 2006 19:53:17 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)& Subject: Re: Splitting serial cables ?, Message-ID: <43e111ad$1@news.langstoeger.at>  c In article <ONGdnWwOvKiwxX3enZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@libcom.com>, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:  >JF Mezei wrote: >> William Webb wrote: >>  N >>>And various members of the DECserver 700 family can boot from flash memory. >>  1 >> The 700s still command a lot of money on Ebay.  >>  I >> The cheaper 90s work with thinwire ethernet, an infrastructure which I - >> have just eliminated 2 days ago :-( :-( :-  > ) >You don't have to use the thinwire port.   2 On the 90TL there is nothing more than a BNC port.M On a 90M there is a UTP (and flash mem, and more RAM, and therefor DNAS) too.   < >A 90M includes the software.  At least most do, if not all.  - And cost hundreds (500) instead of tens (16).   O It is hard to say, but there are better terminal servers now (than DECservers). > Look at eg. the LANTRONIX (eg. if you need to buy them new)...   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Feb 2006 19:56:03 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)& Subject: Re: Splitting serial cables ?, Message-ID: <43e11253$1@news.langstoeger.at>  \ In article <43E059DA.FA7036EA@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >Dave Froble wrote: + >> You don't have to use the thinwire port.  >>  > >> A 90M includes the software.  At least most do, if not all. > E >I checked the online PDFs, and they mention only a thinwire ethernet G >port available.  (when you mount the 90 series server onto the special A >backpane, they mention a proprietary connector that provides all  >connections and power.) > 4 >Is that connector really a standard AUI connector ?  M No. Practically it is a thinwire ethernet on a VG connector. The DEChub90 has O one BNC connector on the right side where you could connect 2 DEChubs together.    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Feb 2006 20:24:29 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)& Subject: Re: Splitting serial cables ?, Message-ID: <43e118fd$1@news.langstoeger.at>  \ In article <43E05E25.93107805@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >John Santos wrote: F >> The only 90M I have ever dealt with (at a customer site) is 10BaseTG >> twisted pair.  There is definitely no AUI connector on it.  It might 2 >> have a BNC connector, but they're not using it. > E >OK, I was looking at cheap 90 models, and that means 90T and TLs (no F >TCPIP support). the 90Ms are still  pricy because they support TCPIP.  E No, JF. The "T" in the name means "TCPIP". You mean the DECserver 90L G which is LAT only. The 90TL is TCPIP and LAT. The 90M is more than this F (like FlashMem, more RAM, which allows DNAS and DNAS brings SLIP, PPP,C IPX, APPLETALK, ... - but not SSH - in addition to TELNET and LAT).   8 And I don't remember a 90T, only 90L, 90L+, 90TL and 90M= And yes, el cheapo 90L and 90L+ were/are virtually worthless.    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Feb 2006 20:13:51 +0100 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)& Subject: Re: Splitting serial cables ?, Message-ID: <43e1167f$1@news.langstoeger.at>  K In article <v2ZDf.1621$6d.714@trnddc06>, John Santos <john@egh.com> writes:  >JF Mezei wrote: >> Dave Froble wrote:  >>  + >>>You don't have to use the thinwire port.  >>> > >>>A 90M includes the software.  At least most do, if not all. >>  G >> I checked the online PDFs, and they mention only a thinwire ethernet I >> port available.  (when you mount the 90 series server onto the special C >> backpane, they mention a proprietary connector that provides all  >> connections and power.) >>  6 >> Is that connector really a standard AUI connector ? > D >The only 90M I have ever dealt with (at a customer site) is 10BaseTE >twisted pair.  There is definitely no AUI connector on it.  It might 0 >have a BNC connector, but they're not using it.  K It has a UTP on the front, a BNC connector on the right side and it has the L backplane connector for a DEChub90 which could also be used in the DEChub900  F Only DEC90 models with AUI have been the DECbridge 90, DECbridge 90FL,L DECrepeater 90FA, DECrepeater 90FS (and maybe a few others which I currently0 can't find on this shitty dnpg.com page anymore)  B >It has flash, so it doesn't need a load host except for upgrades.  2 And when the flash gets corrupted (once a year ;-)   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:41:24 -0500) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> & Subject: Re: Splitting serial cables ?9 Message-ID: <0OaEf.6950$Sk1.207815@news20.bellglobal.com>    > William Webb wrote: G >> And various members of the DECserver 700 family can boot from flash  
 >> memory. > 0 > The 700s still command a lot of money on Ebay. > H > The cheaper 90s work with thinwire ethernet, an infrastructure which I, > have just eliminated 2 days ago :-( :-( :- > L It's funny you mentioned this because we needed to replace our DECserver-200L boxes with DS-90 machines about four years ago and purchased some "10-base-TI to thin-net" conversion widgets to do it. We are still using those things E and I cringe every time I look at the little black power-supply cubes  powering them.  K Even if you buy hardware on eBay the following link was a good resource for  DECserver hardware in the past. , http://www.digitalnetworks.net/decserver.aspG I'm sure that you can Google most of the PDFs you are looking for. Like  here: : http://deathrow.vistech.net/~cvisors/DEC94MDS/dsrvdom1.pdf  	     #####   H In order to download server images from OpenVMS you needed to have olderI consolidated distribution ROMs. If memory serves, we needed to go back to H 1996 ROMs to find a software kit for DS-200. I "think" that DS-90 imagesK were still available on the ROMS published in 2000. I'll check the listings G at work today and get back to you (should you decide to go that route).   H In the past there used to be Windows based software which could downloadH images into the flash of some DS-90 products. ("Midnight Rider" seems toK ring a bell). It's been a while since I saw this stuff but I seem to recall K that some of those DS-90 machines could also be accessed from OpenVMS using K $LANCP (as opposed to $LATCP). Maybe someone with a better memory than mine # can add some more information here.   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.8 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html> http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/decserver_lat_notes.html   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:01:17 GMT & From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>0 Subject: Re: The Pentium Chronicles (2006.01.31)1 Message-ID: <NcaEf.2475$Oh3.106@news.cpqcorp.net>   & AlexNOSPAMDaniels@themail.co.uk wrote: > John Reagan wrote: >  > J >>GEM's support for X86 was for Visual Fortran on Windows.  That is why it* >>was invented and that is all it supports >  > + > I thought RDB for NT would have used GEM?  >  > Alex >   D Ah, yes, forgot about that.  RDB needed BLISS so the X86 target has H enough support for BLISS as well.  That essentially came for free since H GEM is mostly BLISS (at the time) and we needed BLISS to compile GEM to  link into Visual Fortran.    --   John Reagan / HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader  Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 20:00:59 -0000 1 From: wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) 5 Subject: Re: VMS TCPIP NFS (novice filesystem sharer) 1 Message-ID: <975D93A02wspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>   F I assume you've got it working, since there's nothing further on this G thread.  But just in case, keep Samba in mind - we use it to share VMS  , directories with Windows boxes all the time.   Cheers,    ws   --   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press    E BriceBu@gmail.com (Brice Buchanan) wrote in <1137605403.534864.156290  @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:    >Resolution: > D >Ah, REPLY /ENABLE  .... is a light unto my path, and a lamp unto my >feet! > A >The relevant services wouldn't start because their corresponding   >Usernames were expired. Sheesh. > 
 >This command  > - >   $ authorize modify tcpip$*  /noexpiration  > @ >solved the problem. I can mount the drive on the NFS client.... > E >Whether I can get a Windows box to see this drive is another matter.  >  >    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.065 ************************