0 INFO-VAX	Wed, 15 Feb 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 92      Contents: Re: 4000 vlc motherboard Re: 4000 vlc motherboard Re: 4000 vlc motherboard Re: 4000 vlc motherboard0 ANN: yahMAIL is dead - long live son of yahMAIL! Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!  Re: Checking for a DCL verb  Re: Checking for a DCL verb , Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure7 Re: How does a node know it needs to rebuild a volume ?  Re: linking with mysql api ? Re: linking with mysql api ? MOSAIC problem (GIF image) Re: MOSAIC problem (GIF image), Re: Most recent firmware version for HSZ80 ?, Re: Most recent firmware version for HSZ80 ?, Re: Mtools on VMS v. USB flash storage gizmo Re: null terminated strings  Re: null terminated strings  Re: null terminated strings  Re: null terminated strings  Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 Hardening  Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 Hardening * OpenVMS needs biometric/smart card logins!. Re: OpenVMS needs biometric/smart card logins! Re: Oracle RDB on VAX/Open MVS Re: Oracle RDB on VAX/Open MVS= Passing control to eve editor within a DCL command procedure? A Re: Passing control to eve editor within a DCL command procedure? 
 PPPD on Alpha  Re: PPPD on Alpha  Re: PPPD on Alpha " Re: safe signals (signal / sigset) Special Pricing on ES45  [NETBEANS,JAVA] Compatibility ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 03:32:51 -0800( From: "Cliff Miller" <cliff52@gmail.com>! Subject: Re: 4000 vlc motherboard C Message-ID: <1140003171.702509.287560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   , Thanks, Chris - the power looks like a "go."   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 04:30:42 -0800( From: "Cliff Miller" <cliff52@gmail.com>! Subject: Re: 4000 vlc motherboard B Message-ID: <1140006642.206272.54360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  F Studying some pictures off the web, very closely - do the ports on theC side come off the video board, rather than off the motherboard.  If D that is the case, I'll have to get a video card to make this work, I
 believe...   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:53:56 -0500 * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>! Subject: Re: 4000 vlc motherboard * Message-ID: <43f33275@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  F The vs4000 has a unique graphics design.  There is a built-in graphicsC controller that is part of the memory controller (the LCG "Low Cost L Graphics".  It takes a LCG card that provides video RAM and a RAMDAC.  ThereK is also an SPX graphics plug in that replaces the LCG module and provides a  3D drawing engine.  G There is no way that I know of to put any other type of graphics on it.     3 "Cliff Miller" <cliff52@gmail.com> wrote in message < news:1140006642.206272.54360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...H > Studying some pictures off the web, very closely - do the ports on theE > side come off the video board, rather than off the motherboard.  If F > that is the case, I'll have to get a video card to make this work, I > believe... >    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:36:53 -0800" From: chris_doran@postmaster.co.uk! Subject: Re: 4000 vlc motherboard B Message-ID: <1140025013.703577.57330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Cliff Miller wrote: H > Studying some pictures off the web, very closely - do the ports on theA > side come off the video board, rather than off the motherboard.   C Yes, they do, along with the S3 switch and halt button, which bodes F ill. The printer MMJ and DB25 on the back come off the motherboard, soE if you're really, really lucky you can still use them as a console. I ? certainly remember getting some response on a VLC with a faulty = graphics card, but dunno (yet) about one with no card at all.    >  If F > that is the case, I'll have to get a video card to make this work, I > believe...  F It's beginning to look that way. Where are you, before I start looking through my junk boxes?  E I'm cross-posting this reply to comp.sys.dec, as hardware people tend  to lurk there.   Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 02:03:42 +1030 * From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@vsm.com.au>9 Subject: ANN: yahMAIL is dead - long live son of yahMAIL! 0 Message-ID: <11v6h9gbaqs0qec@corp.supernews.com>  B The sometime refered to, long awaited (by some), much anticipated F (again, by some), twelve months in the making, successor to yahMAIL - 5 son of yahMAIL - is now available for (BETA) download       http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/   H It supports Apache, OSU and WASD on all VMS platforms and versions from  V6.0.   ; Note that this is a *BETA* release - so be careful with it!   F Obviously don't bet the company on it.  I have been using this for my G personal email ever since it became somewhat usable (~four months ago)  E and it seems pretty stable.  Of course that's one of the purposes of  C BETA testing, to get it off your test-bench and away from your own  H patterns of usage.  A small band of hardy BETA-testers have already got F their hands on this and reported issues that have been fixed and made H function suggestions.  Be gentle with your comments and wish-list items H - you don't want to discourage me too vigorously so early in this phase!  H If you're going to create a specific language or help file(s) then note H that although the contents are fairly stable, as it's a BETA release it 0 may need revision in the not too distant future.   Here's some more information:       Overview:@        http://wasd.vsm.com.au/soymail/-/doc/soymail_overview.pdfA        http://wasd.vsm.com.au/soymail/-/doc/soymail_overview.html     Install and Admin: =        http://wasd.vsm.com.au/soymail/-/doc/soymail_admin.pdf >        http://wasd.vsm.com.au/soymail/-/doc/soymail_admin.html    On-line user Help: 2        http://wasd.vsm.com.au/cgi-bin/soymail?help  D If you're going to email me privately then include "soyMAIL" in the G subject line so that if you end up quarantined by anti-SPAM you can be   relatively easily identified.   F +--------------------------------------------------------------------+E   Mark Daniel                         http://wasd.vsm.com.au/adelaide F   mailto:Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au (Mark.Daniel@dsto.defence.gov.au);   A pox on the houses of all SPAMers.  Make that two poxes. F +--------------------------------------------------------------------+   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 06:30:33 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>& Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!C Message-ID: <1140013833.687381.279580@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Martin Vorlaender wrote: > All, > 5 > on several occasions, I've had reason to ROTFL when 8 > tripping over some comment or built-in gimmick in VMS. > 6 > Seems the documentation department also falls in the > same category: > # > System Manager's Manual, Volume 1 # >  Customizing the Operating System , >    Adding Comments to HP-Supplied Messages >  > ... 0 > Edit the .MSGHLP file to add your comment. ... >  > 1NOSNO, can't ski; no snow > 2XCSKI, XCSKI Program 7 > 3Your attempt to ski failed because there is no snow. < > 4Wait until there is snow and attempt the operation again.= > 5If you don't want to wait, go to a location where there is  > 5snow and ski there. > 5  > 5Or, try ice skating instead!  > P > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/aa-pv5mj-tk/00/00/46-con.html#hm-comment > # > Saved my day today! Thanks, guys!  >  > cu, 
 >   Martin > --D >  Your mouse has moved.      | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules!7 >  Windows must be restarted  | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de J >  for the change to take     |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> >  effect. Reboot now? [OK]   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de    4 I can recall several humorous things in the manuals.  F I remember an example that included EDIT FUN.FUN . Hmmmmm, someone wasE having a good day! ;-) (Might be only in a VAX/VMS version 4.4 manual A -- I can't recall even which manual it was in -- maybe the User's  manual.)  > Cluster examples include one with nodes MOE, LARRY, and CURLY.  B A search list example uses the names LUCY, FRED, ETHEL, and RICKY.  E Another example, possibly only in a v4.4 manual, includes a directory < called [MEATBALL.SUB]. Someone was looking forward to lunch!  E This reminds me of the $ prompt. Why did they pick the $? Could it be . they needed on-screen motivation to work?! ;-)  5 I'll post more if I think of any more examples later.    AEF    ------------------------------   Date: 15 Feb 2006 14:37:10 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)& Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!+ Message-ID: <45gsklF6ak2sU2@individual.net>   C In article <1140013833.687381.279580@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, ' 	"AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> writes:  >  > Martin Vorlaender wrote: >> All,  >>6 >> on several occasions, I've had reason to ROTFL when9 >> tripping over some comment or built-in gimmick in VMS.  >>7 >> Seems the documentation department also falls in the  >> same category:  >>$ >> System Manager's Manual, Volume 1$ >>  Customizing the Operating System- >>    Adding Comments to HP-Supplied Messages  >> >> ...1 >> Edit the .MSGHLP file to add your comment. ...  >> >> 1NOSNO, can't ski; no snow  >> 2XCSKI, XCSKI Program8 >> 3Your attempt to ski failed because there is no snow.= >> 4Wait until there is snow and attempt the operation again. > >> 5If you don't want to wait, go to a location where there is >> 5snow and ski there.  >> 5  >> 5Or, try ice skating instead! >>Q >> http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/aa-pv5mj-tk/00/00/46-con.html#hm-comment  >>$ >> Saved my day today! Thanks, guys! >> >> cu, >>   Martin  >> -- E >>  Your mouse has moved.      | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules! 8 >>  Windows must be restarted  | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deK >>  for the change to take     |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ ? >>  effect. Reboot now? [OK]   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de  >  > 6 > I can recall several humorous things in the manuals. > H > I remember an example that included EDIT FUN.FUN . Hmmmmm, someone wasG > having a good day! ;-) (Might be only in a VAX/VMS version 4.4 manual C > -- I can't recall even which manual it was in -- maybe the User's 
 > manual.) > @ > Cluster examples include one with nodes MOE, LARRY, and CURLY. > D > A search list example uses the names LUCY, FRED, ETHEL, and RICKY. > G > Another example, possibly only in a v4.4 manual, includes a directory > > called [MEATBALL.SUB]. Someone was looking forward to lunch! > G > This reminds me of the $ prompt. Why did they pick the $? Could it be 0 > they needed on-screen motivation to work?! ;-) > 7 > I'll post more if I think of any more examples later.  >   H Well, it's not from VMS, but one of my favorites was always the entry in' the Glossary of the UCSD Pascal Manual:        Recursion: See Recursion.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:09:06 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG& Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!0 Message-ID: <00A515A0.5180E9E5@SendSpamHere.ORG>  j In article <1140013833.687381.279580@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> writes: > F >This reminds me of the $ prompt. Why did they pick the $? Could it be  H When I was interred in indentured servitude to the schmuck (circe 1994),G my prompt was the cent sign.  It seemed to be befitting to the pittance H he supplied and the onerous nickle and dime nitpicking of the skinflint.   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:11:03 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) & Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!3 Message-ID: <HrjaGdxVM1lf@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ^ In article <43F196E9.C021973C@vaxination.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes: > D > BTW, have they gotten around to documenting how to access (from anG > application) the messages in the help/message database ? If so, which  > document should I hunt for ?  H    The help routines have always been documented in the Utility RoutinesD    Reference Manual.  They work with all help libraries (see the DCL9    LIBRARIAN command and the Utilities Reference Manual).    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:12:56 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) & Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!3 Message-ID: <x3JDfDf7Q8gP@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <45e5svF67gfrU1@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:H > In article <43f1dded$0$1231$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at>,+ > 	"Walter Kuhn" <w.kuhn@ksg.co.at> writes:  >> Or, how about >>  & >> $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE (2928) >>   > * > %SYSTEM-S-NOMSG, Message number 00000B71 >  > What was I supposed to see?   ( %SYSTEM-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000B70  A (I'd be real concerned if 2928 became an odd number on your VAX).    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:14:42 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) & Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!3 Message-ID: <pogbCwlfl$Jy@eisner.encompasserve.org>   q In article <43f1e49b$0$21236$4d4ebb8e@read.news.nl.uu.net>, "Maarten van Breemen" <vanDOTbreemen@home.nl> writes:  > On OpenVMS 7.3-2:  > / > %SYSTEM-W-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels  >   -    Not guarranteed to work with 7.3-1 or 8.0.    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:15:56 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) & Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!3 Message-ID: <WMbUlgk8PcQR@eisner.encompasserve.org>   i In article <6.1.2.0.2.20060214070152.027819c0@raptor.psccos.com>, Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com> writes: D > Of course, there's always the well-reviewed humor of Datatrieve & K > wombats.  In DTR-11 (I don't know about DTR-32), if you tried to use, in  I > the report generator, "AT MIDDLE OF PAGE", it would come back with "AT  3 > MIDDLE OF PAGE is innovative, but alas, illegal".  > M > But one of my favorites was the RSX error code that you got from DECnet if   > a link dropped: IE.NFW.  >   F    Anybody rememeber which version of VMS had "file exists in future"?   ------------------------------   Date: 15 Feb 2006 16:03:18 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)& Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!+ Message-ID: <45h1m6F6nvtvU2@individual.net>   3 In article <x3JDfDf7Q8gP@eisner.encompasserve.org>, > 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:X > In article <45e5svF67gfrU1@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:I >> In article <43f1dded$0$1231$91cee783@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at>, , >> 	"Walter Kuhn" <w.kuhn@ksg.co.at> writes: >>> Or, how about  >>> ' >>> $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE (2928)  >>>  >>  + >> %SYSTEM-S-NOMSG, Message number 00000B71  >>   >> What was I supposed to see? > * > %SYSTEM-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000B70 > C > (I'd be real concerned if 2928 became an odd number on your VAX).   B Hey, I just cut+paste what it said.  Want me to try it again?  :-)   bill      --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:13:18 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>& Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!+ Message-ID: <45h290F6jb55U1@individual.net>    Bob Koehler wrote:k > In article <6.1.2.0.2.20060214070152.027819c0@raptor.psccos.com>, Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com> writes:  > D >>Of course, there's always the well-reviewed humor of Datatrieve & K >>wombats.  In DTR-11 (I don't know about DTR-32), if you tried to use, in  I >>the report generator, "AT MIDDLE OF PAGE", it would come back with "AT  3 >>MIDDLE OF PAGE is innovative, but alas, illegal".  >>M >>But one of my favorites was the RSX error code that you got from DECnet if   >>a link dropped: IE.NFW.  >> >  > H >    Anybody rememeber which version of VMS had "file exists in future"? >   H V2.5? I know that roughly around then we set the date forward to 31-DEC G to test the year end functionality of our application. The application  B test went well, but after resetting to the current date, found we ? couldn't access files created (and/or modified?) in the future.   J Did ANALYZE/DISK exist then? If not, its predecessor fixed the file dates.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:29:58 +0100 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)& Subject: Re: Boy, do I like VMS humor!; Message-ID: <43f36516.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   < Bob Koehler <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote:2 > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes: >>  E >> BTW, have they gotten around to documenting how to access (from an H >> application) the messages in the help/message database ? If so, which >> document should I hunt for ?  > I >   The help routines have always been documented in the Utility Routines E >   Reference Manual.  They work with all help libraries (see the DCL : >   LIBRARIAN command and the Utilities Reference Manual).  F JF was refering to the MSGHLP database. HELP/MESSAGE doesn't work with< library files, it uses SYS$HELP:MSGHLP$LIBRARY.MSGHLP$DATA .  J BTW: SYS$SYSTEM:BIRTHS.MSGHLP and DEATHS.MSGHLP is good for another laugh.; Look for the "PROJECT" section in the introductory comment.    cu,    Martin --  >                     | Martin Vorlaender    |    OpenVMS rules!-   Smiert Spamionem  | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de @                     |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/4                     | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:25:38 +0100 , From: "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at>$ Subject: Re: Checking for a DCL verb5 Message-ID: <1140020739.753308@proxy.dienste.wien.at>   
 Joseph Huber:   ) > I also think VERB is the best solution:  > I > $ pipe verb/list myverb | (read sys$pipe line ; define/job tverb &line) I > $ if f$edit(f$trnlnm("tverb"),"TRIM,COLLAPSE") .nes."" !myverb defined!   D Why so complicated? (At least our good old, VMS V5.2 and later) VERB supports a /CHECK qualifier:   $ VERB/CHECK ROBOT $ SHOW SYMBOL $STATUS    $STATUS == "%X10038090"   0 If the verb exists, $STATUS is set to 1 instead.  / > VERB looks in the actual DCL table in memory,   ; Depends on given qualifiers.For the given verb, VERB looks:   L $ VERB/PROCESS                                            in the per-process table (default) 7 $ VERB/TABLE=<image>                                 in  SYS$SHARE:<image>.EXE A $ VERB/IMAGE=<image> [/COUNT=cnt]        the first/<cnt> table in  SYS$SYSTEM:<image>.EXEG $ VERB/SHARE=<image>/SYMBOL=<sym>   in the command table named <sym> in  SYS$SHARE:<image>.EXE J $ VERB/ANALYZE=<image>                            in all command tables in <image>.EXE    Greetings, Ferry   --   Ing. Ferry Bolhar % Municipality of Vienna, Department 14  A-1010 Vienna / AUSTRIA  E-mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.at    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 17:50:26 +0100/ From: huber@NIRWANA-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber) $ Subject: Re: Checking for a DCL verb+ Message-ID: <jJbMHZW2xsVf@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   d In article <1140020739.753308@proxy.dienste.wien.at>, "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> writes: > Joseph Huber: J >> $ pipe verb/list myverb | (read sys$pipe line ; define/job tverb &line)J >> $ if f$edit(f$trnlnm("tverb"),"TRIM,COLLAPSE") .nes."" !myverb defined! > F > Why so complicated? (At least our good old, VMS V5.2 and later) VERB > supports a /CHECK qualifier: > $ VERB/CHECK ROBOT  = Well, my version of VERB is V2.2-2 has no /CHECK, only /LIST. 9 Maybe I have to update ... or go back to older versions ?     --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:21:33 -0800) From: "Bob Gezelter" <gezelter@rlgsc.com> 5 Subject: Re: file list for ftp in a command procedure C Message-ID: <1140024093.228997.161290@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Paul,   9 Have done this many times. There are two ways to do this:    - take a directory listingE (DIR/NOHEAD/NOTRAIL/BEFORE=xxx/AFTER=xxx/OUT=xxx), and then parse the F output, extracting the filenames and then generating the necessary FTP commands to a temporary file; G - using F$SEARCH, F$FILE_ATTRIBUTE, and F$CVTIME to iterate through the  directory and check the dates   D In either case, you can then use the separate input file option (theD name differs by TCP package and version, current HP TCP uses /INPUT)> with the /USER and /PASSWORD options to automate the transfer.  $ - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 08:57:46 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) @ Subject: Re: How does a node know it needs to rebuild a volume ?3 Message-ID: <u0gQhTiBG3i6@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <43F1242B.E1FCDD1B@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > H > In say, a 3 node cluster, one node crashes. When it reboots it detectsE > that the disks have been improperly dismounted and proceeds to do a F > volume rebuild. This applies also to disks served by the other nodesM > even if those disks remained "healthy" from the other nodes' point of view.   G    The only structure of concern is the allocated block map.  The up to E    date information is cached in memory while the disk copy is set to C    mark more blocks allocated then are actually allocated to files. F    When a file needs more blocks it gets those which have already been    marked allocated.  F    When the disk rebuilds, the actual blocks allocated are scanned and    the map is rebuilt.  C    For most clusters, it makes sense to mount disks with /norebuild ?    on boot and to a "set volume/rebuild" on a periodic basis (I B    always did it in my weekly full backup scripts at 1:00 am prior    to the BACKUP command).     F    The penalty for doing this is having several blocks unuseable for aF    while if there was a crash, until the rebuild detects that they areB    not actually in use.  The advantage can be much faster booting.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:32:24 +0100 & From: "Walter Kuhn" <w.kuhn@ksg.co.at>% Subject: Re: linking with mysql api ? F Message-ID: <43f31162$0$6915$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at>   Hi,   * I use the following linking, and it works:   $ LINK myapplication,-   mylibrary/LIBRARY,- 1   MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_UPPER/LIBRARY,- 4   SYS$COMMON:[OPENSSL097E.ALPHA_LIB]LIBSSL/LIBRARY,-7   SYS$COMMON:[OPENSSL097E.ALPHA_LIB]LIBCRYPTO/LIBRARY,- &   SYS$COMMON:[LIBZ]LIBZ32_ev56/LIBRARY   cu Walter  D "Chris Sharman" <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> schrieb im Newsbeitrag . news:dsuv4d$r32$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk...2 > Anyone successfully linked using the mysql api ?K > I've used mysql_root:[include]mysql.h to get the declarations at compile   > time.  > 4 > Linking without mysql I get this (unsurprisingly): > $ lin/deb webent,data ( > %LINK-W-NUDFSYMS, 9 undefined symbols:% > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_error - > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_fetch_lengths ) > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_fetch_row + > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_free_result $ > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_init( > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_num_rows% > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_query , > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_real_connect, > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         mysql_store_result& > (along with corresponding warnings). > / > I can't find any mysql shareable image, just:   > Directory MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.BIN] > L > MYISAMCHK.EXE;1     MYSQL.EXE;1         MYSQLADMIN.EXE;1 MYSQLBINLOG.EXE;1K > MYSQLCHECK.EXE;1    MYSQLD.EXE;1        MYSQLDUMP.EXE;1 MYSQLIMPORT.EXE;1 A > MYSQLSHOW.EXE;1     MYSQLTEST.EXE;1     MY_PRINT_DEFAULTS.EXE;1  >   > Directory MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB] > A > MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1                 MYSQLCLIENT_UPPER.OLB;1  > L > Linking with these, I resolve the mysql symbols, but get a whole lot more.A > $ lin/deb webent,data,mysql_root:[vms.lib]mysqlclient_mixed/lib ) > %LINK-W-NUDFSYMS, 43 undefined symbols: # > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         BN_BIN2BN ! > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         DH_FREE   > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         DH_NEW1 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         ERR_GET_ERROR_LINE_DATA - > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         ERR_PRINT_ERRORS_FP 5 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         OPENSSL_ADD_ALL_ALGO_NOCONF # > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CLEAR 3 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_CHECK_PRIVATE_KEY & > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_CTRL7 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_LOAD_VERIFY_LOCATIONS % > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_NEW 1 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_SET_CIPHER_LIST 6 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_SET_DEF_VERIFY_PATHS8 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_SET_SESSION_ID_CONTEXT, > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_SET_VERIFY6 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_USE_CERTIFICATE_FILE5 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_CTX_USE_PRIVATEKEY_FILE * > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_DO_HANDSHAKE" > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_FREE' > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_GET_ERROR 2 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_GET_PEER_CERTIFICATE) > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_GET_SESSION 0 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_GET_SHARED_CIPHERS0 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_LOAD_ERROR_STRINGS! > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_NEW " > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_READ1 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_SESSION_SET_TIMEOUT . > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_SET_ACCEPT_STATE/ > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_SET_CONNECT_STATE $ > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_SET_FD& > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_SHUTDOWN# > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         SSL_WRITE - > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         TLSV1_CLIENT_METHOD - > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         TLSV1_SERVER_METHOD # > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         X509_FREE . > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         X509_GET_ISSUER_NAME/ > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         X509_GET_SUBJECT_NAME + > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         X509_NAME_ONELINE 9 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         X509_STORE_CTX_GET_CURRENT_CERT 2 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         X509_STORE_CTX_GET_ERROR8 > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         X509_STORE_CTX_GET_ERROR_DEPTH" > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         compress$ > %LINK-I-UDFSYM,         uncompress9 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol BN_BIN2BN referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000030 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 6 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol DH_NEW referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000040 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 7 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol DH_FREE referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000050 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 A > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_NAME_ONELINE referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000080 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 H > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_STORE_CTX_GET_ERROR referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000000A0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 E > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_STORE_CTX_GET_CURRENT_CERT   > referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000000B0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 D > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_STORE_CTX_GET_ERROR_DEPTH  > referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000000C0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 D > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_GET_ISSUER_NAME referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000000D0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 E > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_GET_SUBJECT_NAME referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000000E0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 G > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol ERR_GET_ERROR_LINE_DATA referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000110 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 C > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol ERR_PRINT_ERRORS_FP referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000160 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 L > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_USE_CERTIFICATE_FILE referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000180 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 I > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_CHECK_PRIVATE_KEY referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000190 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 K > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_USE_PRIVATEKEY_FILE referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000001A0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 L > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_SET_DEF_VERIFY_PATHS referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000001C0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 D > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_SET_SESSION_ID_CONTEXT  > referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000001D0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 K > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol OPENSSL_ADD_ALL_ALGO_NOCONF referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000001E0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 G > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_SET_CIPHER_LIST referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000001F0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 C > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol TLSV1_SERVER_METHOD referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000200 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 < > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_CTRL referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000230 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 ; > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_NEW referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000240 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 F > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_LOAD_ERROR_STRINGS referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000260 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 C > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_LOAD_VERIFY_LOCATIONS   > referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000270 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 B > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CTX_SET_VERIFY referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000290 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 C > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol TLSV1_CLIENT_METHOD referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000002C0 ) >         in module viosslfactories file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 G > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol ERR_GET_ERROR_LINE_DATA referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000020 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 G > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_SESSION_SET_TIMEOUT referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000050 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 8 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_FREE referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000060 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 ? > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_GET_SESSION referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000070 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 7 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_NEW referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000080 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 9 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_CLEAR referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000000D0 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 @ > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_DO_HANDSHAKE referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000000F0 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 E > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_SET_CONNECT_STATE referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000100 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 : > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_SET_FD referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000110 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 A > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_NAME_ONELINE referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000150 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 E > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_GET_SUBJECT_NAME referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000160 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 H > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_GET_PEER_CERTIFICATE referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000170 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 D > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_SET_ACCEPT_STATE referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000180 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 D > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_GET_ISSUER_NAME referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000190 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 9 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol X509_FREE referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000001A0 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 F > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_GET_SHARED_CIPHERS referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000001B0 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 < > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_SHUTDOWN referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000280 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 9 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_WRITE referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000340 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 = > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_GET_ERROR referenced + >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000370 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 8 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol SSL_READ referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000380 K >         in module viossl file MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 8 > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol compress referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X00000050 % >         in module my_compress file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1 : > %LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol uncompress referenced+ >         in psect $LINK$ offset %X000000B0 % >         in module my_compress file  - > MYSQL_ROOT:[VMS.LIB]MYSQLCLIENT_MIXED.OLB;1  > J > The _mixed.olb seems to correspond to cc/name=as_is, and the _upper.olb - > seems to be for default (uppercase) naming.  > L > I've no idea what all these symbols are, or how I get them. The pre-built  > mysql tools seem to work. I > My image seems to work, too - is there some better way to build it, so  & > that I don't get pages of warnings ?I > And while it talks about returning binary values from the database, it  A > doesn't seem to actually do it - integers are sent as ascii ...  >  > Chris    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:02:12 -0800) From: "Bob Gezelter" <gezelter@rlgsc.com> % Subject: Re: linking with mysql api ? C Message-ID: <1140022932.003802.252400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    > N > Text from Chris and Walter omitted in the interest of bandwidth conservation >  Chris,  D As has been observed, the entry points that are missing appear to beG related to SSL and can be resolved by including the SSL object library.   G As a matter of policy and maintenance, I would build separate shareable C libraries for BOTH MYSQL and SSL, and then include them in the link F path when I link my applications. I would then place a logical name inD the system logical name table pointing to the production versions of both shareable libraries.   D This will allow you to use easily incorporate bug fixes and test newG versions of the tools without the need to relink each application every F time. It will also allow test and beta versions of the applications toG exist on the same machine, through the exploitation of the hierarchical  logical name translations.  ! I hope that the above is helpful.   $ - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:22:08 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: MOSAIC problem (GIF image) , Message-ID: <43F31CEA.6D37E8A3@teksavvy.com>  5 http://www.nwtel.ca/images/operatingArea/mapFull.gif    E On Mosaic 3.8 VAX, the image doesn't show, I get a rectangle with the ; mosaic logo and the name of the sys$scratch temporary file.   ? Any reason why Mosaic can't handle this particular GIF image ?    / (yeah, I know, I haven't updated to 3.9 yet :-)    ------------------------------   Date: 15 Feb 06 12:26:26 EST) From: cook@wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook) ' Subject: Re: MOSAIC problem (GIF image) ! Message-ID: <cIeyPZoRhAEw@wvnvms>   \ In article <43F31CEA.6D37E8A3@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:7 > http://www.nwtel.ca/images/operatingArea/mapFull.gif   > G > On Mosaic 3.8 VAX, the image doesn't show, I get a rectangle with the = > mosaic logo and the name of the sys$scratch temporary file.  > A > Any reason why Mosaic can't handle this particular GIF image ?    = Works fine for me, but its size (1200x780) may be causing the < problem.  Mosaic has both automatic (hardware) and parameter> image size limits.  What display card are you using?  What are? the preference settings for MAXPIXMAPWIDTH and MAXPIXMAPHEIGHT? = If MAXPIXMAPWIDTH and MAXPIXMAPHEIGHT are both zero, then the = automatic hardware limits have kicked in.  Some display cards ; limit the size of pixmaps to the dimensions of the display.   A Unfortunately the documention (from HP/Compag/DEC) on which cards B are limited this way doesn't exist as far as I can tell, so Mosaic0 has to attempt to detect the problem on the fly.     George Cook  WVNET    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:08:30 GMT / From: Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> 5 Subject: Re: Most recent firmware version for HSZ80 ? 8 Message-ID: <rbk6v1tim7f856o10qh5jnilm1gbi3uj1q@4ax.com>   Well, there's an 8.5Z-4    Clay  D On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:47:30 +0000, Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> wrote:   >Gentle colleagues,  > 6 >can someone please inform me what the most up-to-date$ >firmware version is for the HSZ80 ? >  >Is it V832-0 ?  > 9 >What is version V83Z, and how does it differ from V832 ?  >  >Many thanks in advance, > 
 >Roy Omond >Blue Bubble Ltd.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:03:20 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com5 Subject: Re: Most recent firmware version for HSZ80 ? Q Message-ID: <OFCE5729FD.A839B90F-ON85257116.005D5EDF-85257116.005DAAB9@metso.com>    At  > http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/acs/index.html  > you will find this (you want the last two starred items ISTM):   New Release C ACS V8.8-2 upgrade kits now available to improve serviceability and 9 availability of the HSG80 and HSG60 storage array systems     7 Service Patches Available for HSx Storage Array Systems J ACS V8.8-2 for HSG60 and HSG80 storage array systems Service Patches 3 and 4 I ACS V8.5J-2 for HSJ80 storage array systems Service Patches 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  and 8 = ACS V8.5J-10 for HSJ80 storage array systems Service Patch 11 H * ACS V8.5Z for HSZ80 storage array systems available through HP ServiceI * ACS V8.5Z for HSZ80 storage array systems Service Patches 1, 2, 3 and 4     J Clay M. Denton <denton@orison.dsserv.com> wrote on 02/15/2006 11:08:30 AM:   > Well, there's an 8.5Z-4  >  > Clay > F > On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:47:30 +0000, Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> wrote: >  > >Gentle colleagues,  > > 8 > >can someone please inform me what the most up-to-date& > >firmware version is for the HSZ80 ? > >  > >Is it V832-0 ?  > > ; > >What is version V83Z, and how does it differ from V832 ?  > >  > >Many thanks in advance, > >  > >Roy Omond > >Blue Bubble Ltd.  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:55:42 -0500 , From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>5 Subject: Re: Mtools on VMS v. USB flash storage gizmo & Message-ID: <43F35D0E.71A3B942@hp.com>  @ 1) I have entered a problem report about the UCM sho event item.  A 2) Unplugging a USB device should never result in a system crash. C    But without dumps it is impossbile to even begin to guess where      the problem is.  E 3) The DNDRIVER image on the freeware site is really old the current  C    edit history shows that we are up to edit 20 and what is on the  #    freeware is more like edit 13.        Forrest Kenney OpenVMS development.   "Steven M. Schweda" wrote: > I >    The local computer store recently advertised a semi-bargain price on H > a Kingston USB flash memory gizmo (512MB), so I finally broke down andH > invested in one.  After only a bit of fooling around (sucking down andJ > installing DNDRIVER), I plugged it into the cheap ($10) Chinese USB cardD > (with the NEC PD720100AGM chip) in my (spare/experimental) XP1000H > running VMS V8.2, and it seemed to work about as expected (some of the@ > time, anyway).  I'm not an actual paying customer, but it I doH > appreciate the effort that went into making this stuff work.  (But see > below for some whining.) > F >    After a bit of fiddling, I also got a recent version of Mtools toH > work a little (within limits), and it was apparently able to cope withC > some data written using a Windows 98 SE system.  For the morbidly 
 > curious: > # > ALP2 $ show device /full MTOOLS_U  > Q > Disk ALP2$DNA0:, device type KingstonDataTraveler 2.0, is online, file-oriented H >     device, shareable, available to cluster, error logging is enabled. > Q >     Error count                    0    Operations completed               3136 Q >     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                      [SYSTEM] Q >     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot            S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,W Q >     Reference count                0    Default buffer size                 512 Q >     Total blocks             1001471    Sectors per track                    32 Q >     Total cylinders             1010    Tracks per cylinder                  31  >  > ALP2 $ MTOOLS -c mdir  u: " >  MTOOLS_U (_ALP2$DNA0:) mounted.! >  Volume in drive U has no label $ >  Volume Serial Number is 1B00-1A18 > Directory for U:/  > * > DTI      EXE   1236215 2006-02-12  19:20F > KINGST~1     <DIR>     2006-02-12  19:53  KINGSTON TECHNOLOGY CO INC+ >         2 files           1 236 215 bytes 0 >                         508 944 384 bytes free >  >  _ALP2$DNA0: dismounted. >  > ALP2 $ mtools -V0 > MTOOLS version 3.9.10a0, dated March 2nd, 2005R > configured with the following options: disable-xdf disable-vold disable-new-vold! >  disable-debug disable-raw-term  > I >    This Mtools stuff is still pretty ragged.  Wildcard file names don't C > work, for example, and I'd be willing to bet that there are other I > problems lurking near the surface (if not actually sticking out of it).  > J >    In the VMS complaint department, I hit an annoyance in the UCM, where@ > SHOW EVENTS /BEFORE or /SINCE demands a time value, instead of2 > defaulting to TODAY (which is common elsewhere): >  > ALP2 $ ucm: > Universal Serial Bus Configuration Manager, Version V1.0 >  > UCM> show events /since P > %CLI-W-VALREQ, missing qualifier or keyword value - supply all required values
 >  \SINCE\ > H > I assume that a minor adjustment to the command definition should cure$ > that one. (Well, it _was_ "V1.0".) > H >    Also, I haven't figured out how to reproduce it (or stop it when itI > happens), but I have seen situations where an INITIALIZE or MOUNT would F > hang (RWAST), and then yanking the USB gizmo would crash the system.H > And yanking the gizmo and then plugging it into a different port seems7 > to cause some confusion.  But it's fun when it works.  > J >    Just curious: Does mounting one of these things with /NOCACHE make it" > safe(r) to yank before DISMOUNT? > J > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 6 >    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98185 >    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org  >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   Date: 15 Feb 2006 14:33:53 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)$ Subject: Re: null terminated strings+ Message-ID: <45gsehF6ak2sU1@individual.net>   3 In article <N06mCyw8EZeL@eisner.encompasserve.org>, > 	koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:^ > In article <43F0F33D.30A8D4C5@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > F >> C was originally designed for and implemented on the UNIX operatingK >> system on the DEC PDP-11, by Dennis Ritchie. The operating system, the C L >> compiler, and essentially all Unix application programs are written in C. > J >   Not surprising.  But of course, UNIX didn't get rewritten into C untilJ >   about its third or fourth port when Ken Thomas got tired of porting it  >   by rewriting it in assembly. > J >   Too bad he didn't go to a different door down the hall.  He could haveG >   used an early BLISS compiler and we'd all have missed C's troubles.   F So, it has been demonstrated here that C wasn't the only language withF a buffer overrun problem.  COBOL had it, Fortran had it.  But this wasH addressed at the implementation level by including a compile time optionF to do range/bounds checking. (Interestingly, Pascal seems to have goneF the other way by making range/bounds checking the default but allowing% it to be turned off at compile time!)   F So this leaves us with two big questions. If it could be included as aH compile time option in other languages, why was it specifically not doneI for C?  And the second question, why don't compiler writters do it today? A What is it they say about lighting a candle vs. cursing the dark?    bill      --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 08:28:26 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) $ Subject: Re: null terminated strings3 Message-ID: <9LkVpnmWWfky@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <43F0F583.30B7E111@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Bill Gunshannon wrote:O >> If that is the primary reason for OO, then the emperor truly has no clothes. L >> (Oh, and as an aside, X predates OO by a rather long period.  The lack of* >> OO did not block or even slow it down.) >  > E > You can do object oriented programming in C or other languages that 2 > allow pointers to routines stored in structures.  H    I firmly beleive that VMS is the best example of applying what we nowF    consider to be OO concepts when writing in assembly.  There's a lotG    of data encapsulation in there.  They were valid concepts back when  H    RSX was written and they still were when NT was written without them.   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:21:08 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) $ Subject: Re: null terminated strings3 Message-ID: <AEa0Do4BgHyW@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <45gsehF6ak2sU1@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  H > So this leaves us with two big questions. If it could be included as aJ > compile time option in other languages, why was it specifically not doneK > for C?  And the second question, why don't compiler writters do it today? C > What is it they say about lighting a candle vs. cursing the dark?   E The dark to be cursed in this case is the C Runtime Library which has 6 many entrypoints relying upon null-terminated strings.  C The languages for which compilers do range checks are those without G a requirement to support such type-unsafe mechanisms as null terminated  strings.   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 12:25:57 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) $ Subject: Re: null terminated strings3 Message-ID: <ksPJaGq6v288@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <45gsehF6ak2sU1@individual.net>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:H > So this leaves us with two big questions. If it could be included as aJ > compile time option in other languages, why was it specifically not doneK > for C?  And the second question, why don't compiler writters do it today? C > What is it they say about lighting a candle vs. cursing the dark?       Pointers.  D    It's easy to do range checking on an index when you index into anD    array.  It's not so easy to tell what a pointer is supposed to be!    pointing to and whether it is.   A    DEC C will check indexes, but not pointers.  DEC Fortran added G    pointers on Alpha for Fortran-90 and at first would not do any bound 3    checking if a pointer was declared in a routine.   E    In particular the ability in C to use an array of pointers to set  D    up a "ragged" array requires techniques that make bound checking     argument arrays difficult.   D    Note that there is nothing that prevents C compilers from passingG    char[] using descriptors (C says pass by pointer but does not define F    pointer) and eliminating many buffer overflows.  But there is also A    nothing that requires any behavior not provided by "pointer is     address".  H    Vendors are not willing to break existing code by putting in features    without requirements.   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:00:40 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) $ Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 Hardening3 Message-ID: <DCBYvG9XeKPk@eisner.encompasserve.org>   [ In article <ntdIf.23999$Eq.18382@trnddc02>, "Thomas Carroll" <tbcreg@mailsnare.net> writes: K > Does anyone have specifuc "hardening" procedures for OVMS 7.3-2? Thanks.   >   ?    Use it out of the box.  Follow recommendations in the System D    Manager's manual.  Don't take steps that will reduce the security    from the as-delivered setup.    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:14:45 -0800) From: "Bob Gezelter" <gezelter@rlgsc.com> $ Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 HardeningB Message-ID: <1140023685.528390.47800@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   David,  ? My apologies, typo (somehow directory depth was mis-entered) is 
 corrected.   Thanks for the heads up!  $ - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 06:22:10 -0800 From: bob@instantwhip.com 3 Subject: OpenVMS needs biometric/smart card logins! C Message-ID: <1140013330.690787.178770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   C I mentioned this on a webcast once and seems it has not registered. E Micro$oft has got it in vista using smart cards.  How hard Fred would E this be to incorporate a biometric machine or smart cards for logins?    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 12:17:52 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 7 Subject: Re: OpenVMS needs biometric/smart card logins! 3 Message-ID: <oUvqhpdYCMYU@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <1140013330.690787.178770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, bob@instantwhip.com writes: E > I mentioned this on a webcast once and seems it has not registered. G > Micro$oft has got it in vista using smart cards.  How hard Fred would G > this be to incorporate a biometric machine or smart cards for logins?   A    Multinet added smart cards to thier IP product.  You could use F    LGI callouts to roll your own.  But right now I doubt the biometricB    guys are interested in porting to VMS and HP may not be able to6    influence them for all the reasons we know so well.   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:02:30 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ' Subject: Re: Oracle RDB on VAX/Open MVS 3 Message-ID: <6gqKodm6lU$9@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <96jIf.1858$_D5.178681@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> writes:   - > OpenMVS ? I wonder if IBM knows about this?   .    1)  yes, there is a POSIX subsystem for MVS)    2)  no, IBM marketing is not that dumb    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:52:51 -0700 4 From: Norman Lastovica <norman.lastovica@oracle.com>' Subject: Re: Oracle RDB on VAX/Open MVS * Message-ID: <43F36A73.D36DCA62@oracle.com>  2 in my experience, migrating the database structure6 and data is pretty much straight forward.  RMU/EXTRACT0 provides you with a template procedure to create3 the tables and indexes.  And then RMU/UNLOAD can be 7 used to extract the data itself in a variety of formats 7 (including CSV variants).   SQL$LOADER can then be used 4 to populate the new database.  There are, of course,4 fancier/faster techniques depending on just how fast you need to move the data.  1 The sticking point in many cases is migrating the 3 application.  If one simply "ports" the application 5 to some new environment, then at the end you've spent 5 some (perhaps large) of time/effort/money to get the  5 exact same application functionality that you already  have today.   < If dwindling support for some old VAX system is a motivator,6 migrating instead to Rdb on an Itanium system may well5 end up being a whole lot less work, less expense, and 8 less time.  In addition to being able to continue to use VMS.   db2sysc@gmail.com wrote: >  > All. > G > Can anyone share their experiences on Oralce RDB VAX/OpenVMS platform 6 > (current version Rdb 7.0.31) to Oracle 10g on Linux? > E > 1. How to we migrate ORACLE RDB objects to Oracle 9i? This includes = > tables, indexes, DBO views, Stored Procedure, Triggers etc.  > 8 > 2. How do we migrate data from Oracle RDB to Oracle 9i > < > 3. Any challenges and issue we will face in such migration > 8 > 4. Any tools that can be leveraged for this Migration.   --  	 - - - - - 0  opinions expressed here are mine and mine alone.  and certainly are not intended in any way to 0  express or represent any opinions or commitment  of oracle corporation.   *  norman lastovica / oracle rdb engineering   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:54:46 +0000 = From: andygallett <andygallett.239ks0@nomx.sysadminforum.com> F Subject: Passing control to eve editor within a DCL command procedure?7 Message-ID: <andygallett.239ks0@nomx.sysadminforum.com>    Hi  D Im trying to edit a file from within a command procedure and use theG 'Replace' command that I use in eve editor, but I cant seem to get this ! working has anyone got any ideas?    Regards  Andy G     --   andygallett " posted via http://sysdminforum.com   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 03:25:29 -08003 From: "Big John" <john.powers@airwidesolutions.com> J Subject: Re: Passing control to eve editor within a DCL command procedure?C Message-ID: <1140002729.628310.245130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Try:  , $ edit /nodisplay/command=sys$input  foo.bar! eve_global_replace ("foo","bar"); 	 eve_exit;     -HTH - John   andygallett wrote: > Hi > F > Im trying to edit a file from within a command procedure and use theI > 'Replace' command that I use in eve editor, but I cant seem to get this # > working has anyone got any ideas?  > 	 > Regards  > Andy G >  >  > --  
 > andygallett $ > posted via http://sysdminforum.com   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 05:58:00 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk Subject: PPPD on AlphaB Message-ID: <1140011880.082559.79600@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   Hiya,   @ I'm running v7.3 on an AlphaServer 1000A at home.  If I remember( rightly, it's with TCP/IP Services v5.3.  @ I would like to upgrade to a more recent version but each set ofD release notes that I look at seems to suggest that the PPPD on laterF versions doesn't work.  Since this is how I collect email from my ISP,< I'd like to be able to upgrade and still have a working PPPD connection!   . Any ideas if/when PPPD on Alpha will be fixed?  G I do know that the last patch that was sent out (in compaq days!) ended ? up breaking the PPPD functionality so that it was impossible to D disconnect the link without power-cycling the modem.  I'm suspectingG that this is the reason that the later versions of VMS have non-working  PPPD.  Any ideas?    Thanks in advance    Steve    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:59:52 -0500 , From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com> Subject: Re: PPPD on Alpha& Message-ID: <43F35E08.E6D621D4@hp.com>  > 	The PPPD code was never removed from the base O.S.  What was B removed were the hooks in TCP/IP that use it.  I did some testing E with the TCP/IP folks in the last 6 months on a version with support  F for PPPD in it.  I honestly don't remember what the version was I was = just helping them get the hardware set up so they could test.   A 	I do not remember seeing a problem report about having to power  G cycle a modem to break a connection.  If one had come in I should have   seen it.     Forrest Kenney
 OpenVMS Group        etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote:  >  > Hiya,  > B > I'm running v7.3 on an AlphaServer 1000A at home.  If I remember* > rightly, it's with TCP/IP Services v5.3. > B > I would like to upgrade to a more recent version but each set ofF > release notes that I look at seems to suggest that the PPPD on laterH > versions doesn't work.  Since this is how I collect email from my ISP,> > I'd like to be able to upgrade and still have a working PPPD
 > connection!  > 0 > Any ideas if/when PPPD on Alpha will be fixed? > I > I do know that the last patch that was sent out (in compaq days!) ended A > up breaking the PPPD functionality so that it was impossible to F > disconnect the link without power-cycling the modem.  I'm suspectingI > that this is the reason that the later versions of VMS have non-working  > PPPD.  Any ideas?  >  > Thanks in advance  >  > Steve    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 10:02:21 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: PPPD on AlphaC Message-ID: <1140023397.233245.282720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Hi Forrest,   G I submitted a report about needing to power cycle the modem as I'd been C in field test for TCP/IP (and for some reason then dropped off it?) > That was back in the dim and distant past though (circa 2002?)  @ Any ideas when the TCP/IP guys might have the hooks back in on a revenue-ship release?    Thanks in advance    Steve    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 09:11:55 -0800) From: "Bob Gezelter" <gezelter@rlgsc.com> + Subject: Re: safe signals (signal / sigset) C Message-ID: <1140023515.087807.282680@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    George,   G First, I would abstract the code down to the simplest possible example, G without any of the actual application. This probably means starting the E 50 threads going, spinning on a counted semaphore, with the exception 3 enabled, and then having each of the threads fault.   G It is hard to debug these without the actual code (and difficult then). B  One possibility that comes to mind is that somewhere in the faultA processing code (quite possibly the application), there is a data C structure that is serially reusable as opposed to fully re-entrant.   A Variations of the tests described above can identify this type of  problem.  $ - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.comC P.S. I was in the Monmouth area just last week speaking for the New = Jersey Coast IEEE Computer Society chapter on  "Architectural A Techniques for Interoperability and Coexistence", a talk that was B originally written at the request of the IEEE members at SPAWAR in Charleston.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:27:33 -0500 C From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@icusc.com>   Subject: Special Pricing on ES458 Message-ID: <%CHIf.7930$UD1.6366@bignews2.bellsouth.net>   Available immediately    ES45 1.2Ghz Model 2  4GB Island Memory  6 Slot Disk Cage 4 x 146GB 10KRPM Disk % U160 RAID Controller with 128MB Cache " Rackmount or Pedestal Kit included* NEW OpenVMS base and EIP Licenses included   Only $31,000  , Includes free shipping in the USA and Canada$ Shipping to all other countries $450  + 12 months Island Computers Warranty applies      --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X252  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html    ------------------------------    Date: 15 Feb 2006 16:31:24 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)( Subject: [NETBEANS,JAVA] Compatibility ?, Message-ID: <43f3575c$1@news.langstoeger.at>  6 Anybody succeeded using NETBEANS V3.6 on JAVA V1.5-1 ?   I get 1 java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/netbeans/Main    TIA    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.092 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    =CsPCo3Fz>51h%ￕ4}761чպ|
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