0 INFO-VAX	Sat, 18 Feb 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 98      Contents:N Re: A gripe just posted to HP's VMS ITRC forum (for those with a foot footfoot0 Re: F$GETSYI to get cluster's founding node name0 Re: impenetrable Mac OS X virus found by Sophos!0 Re: impenetrable Mac OS X virus found by Sophos!3 KZPEA in ES45 with serial console only -- run bios? 4 Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Batch/Print Job Numbering4 Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Batch/Print Job Numbering4 Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Batch/Print Job Numbering4 Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Batch/Print Job Numbering  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:55:22 +0300 U From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <zzLaishev-@-DeltaTelecom.zz.RU-please-remove-zz-for.reply> W Subject: Re: A gripe just posted to HP's VMS ITRC forum (for those with a foot footfoot 3 Message-ID: <604659538C5F1A54D57BAB244126AD72@nntp>    Hello Mark, All!    @ 	HP has not been interested in the useful freeware for OpenVMS?! 	What a hell?!     Mark Daniel wrote:  D > Subject: REMOVED::ANN: yahMAIL is dead - long live son of yahMAIL! ...      --   Cheers, Ruslan. D +---------------------pure personal opinion------------------------+C   RADIUS Server for OpenVMS project - www.starlet.spb.ru/radiusvms/ >   ICQ: 319518233, Skype: SysMan-One, Mobile: +7 (901) 316-3222   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:30:47 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com9 Subject: Re: F$GETSYI to get cluster's founding node name Q Message-ID: <OF18F07838.C1ABBCDA-ON85257119.005FC595-85257119.006033F8@metso.com>   + This is a multipart message in MIME format. " --=_alternative 006033F385257119_=, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"  J David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote on 02/17/2006 11:08:12  PM:    > norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:  > >  > > I -------8<---------------------------------------------------------------- 
 > > [snip] > > I > Hhmmm up to this point, bears a striking resemblance to my SHCLU.COM...  >    David,A This may well be yours.  What I saved (and later quickly posted)  I does not have an Author block.  I certainly did not write it originally,  H and I did not claim it as mine, only posted it in case it would lead to @ a solution.  It is of course not a perfect match to the problem.  I In any case, with full apologies, credit to the actual developer and non   intended a moi.    -  Norm   > More so later on...  >  > --   > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > ( > Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page# > http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/  > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  > $ > Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/  > + > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: $ > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  " --=_alternative 006033F385257119_=+ Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"      <br>G <br><font size=2><tt>David J Dachtera &lt;djesys.nospam@comcast.net&gt; $ wrote on 02/17/2006 11:08:12 PM:<br> <br>& &gt; norm.raphael@metso.com wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; <br>Z &gt; &gt; -------8&lt;----------------------------------------------------------------<br> &gt; &gt; [snip]</tt></font>" <br><font size=2><tt>&gt; &gt;<br>P &gt; Hhmmm up to this point, bears a striking resemblance to my SHCLU.COM...<br> &gt; </tt></font>  <br>' <br><font size=2><tt>David,</tt></font> J <br><font size=2><tt>This may well be yours. &nbsp;What I saved (and later quickly posted) </tt></font>I <br><font size=2><tt>does not have an Author block. &nbsp;I certainly did % not write it originally, </tt></font> F <br><font size=2><tt>and I did not claim it as mine, only posted it in" case it would lead to </tt></font>J <br><font size=2><tt>a solution. &nbsp;It is of course not a perfect match to the problem.</tt></font>  <br>K <br><font size=2><tt>In any case, with full apologies, credit to the actual  developer and non </tt></font>0 <br><font size=2><tt>intended a moi.</tt></font> <br>" <br><font size=2><tt>-</tt></font> <br><font size=2><tt>Norm<br>  </tt></font>1 <br><font size=2><tt>&gt; More so later on...<br> 	 &gt; <br>  &gt; -- <br> &gt; David J Dachtera<br>  &gt; dba DJE Systems<br> &gt; http://www.djesys.com/<br> 	 &gt; <br> / &gt; Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page<br> * &gt; http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/<br>	 &gt; <br> 1 &gt; Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:<br> ( &gt; http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/<br>	 &gt; <br> + &gt; Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:<br> ( &gt; http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/<br>	 &gt; <br> 2 &gt; Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:<br>+ &gt; http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/<br>  </tt></font>$ --=_alternative 006033F385257119_=--   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:35:56 GMT > From: andekl_no@saaf_spam.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_Ekl=F6f?=)9 Subject: Re: impenetrable Mac OS X virus found by Sophos! : Message-ID: <1haytsz.vzh01ff6mo5cN%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se>  + rcyoung <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com> wrote:   > > There have always been Mac viruses. Back in the early 1990s   > [cut] We *all'* know that. But this is about a Mac OS X virus.@ Which would have been a first, if it was really a virus. As it'sC appears, it's likely a Trojan (not the first), and possibly a worm   (the first?)  D > they were quite prevalent. They just "went under the radar" as the# > writers concentrated on Windows.    C And all - or most - usable attack points in the old Mac OS had been  secured by updates.    --  5 I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines  . to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:48:43 -0700 " From: GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>9 Subject: Re: impenetrable Mac OS X virus found by Sophos! 0 Message-ID: <4-6dnWJgvbUrw2reRVn-pg@bresnan.com>   Anders Eklf wrote:   - > rcyoung <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com> wrote:  >  > > >>There have always been Mac viruses. Back in the early 1990s  >  > @ > [cut] We *all'* know that. But this is about a Mac OS X virus.B > Which would have been a first, if it was really a virus. As it'sE > appears, it's likely a Trojan (not the first), and possibly a worm   > (the first?) >  > D >>they were quite prevalent. They just "went under the radar" as the# >>writers concentrated on Windows.   >  > E > And all - or most - usable attack points in the old Mac OS had been  > secured by updates.  >   H All the trojan does is ask you for the root password.  If you don't, it  is harmless.     --   Where are we going?   And why am I in this handbasket?   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:24:58 +0000 (UTC) . From: Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com>< Subject: KZPEA in ES45 with serial console only -- run bios?, Message-ID: <dt7l9a$10s$1@reader2.panix.com>  = I'm considering getting a KZPEA for use in an ES45 which only > has a serial console;  the ES45 does not have a graphics card.  > The KZPEA specs say that it needs a "video monitor" to run the= bios on it to do things like, for example, change the SCSI id  (it defaults to 7).   < Has anyone successfully run the bios on this card in an ES45? with only a serial console (attached to a VT520 or equivalent)?   ; If not, has anyone successfully run the bios on the card by < first putting it in a PC and running the bios and setting it up in a PC?   3 The KZPEA is actually an Adaptec AIC-7899, I think.    --  7 Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com> (lose the Q's)    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Feb 2006 14:14:40 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)= Subject: Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Batch/Print Job Numbering * Message-ID: <43f72bd0@news.langstoeger.at>  ` In article <43F6A30C.BCF5B109@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:J >> you can see, that the same entry number is used more than once per day. >> And this is very annoying...  >>   >> Anybody ? Hoff ?  > E >Well, if I understand the issue, it sounds like you may be trying to ( >track batch jobs by their entry number.  D Not at all. I only have a lot of (equally named) logfiles and I needD to find out why entry x failed (and hangs around retained on error).D Searching with the entry number (and the date) is not enough because@ there are more than one entry number x per day. Thats all folks.   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:50:25 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) = Subject: Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Batch/Print Job Numbering ( Message-ID: <dt7c7h$lhm$1@pcls4.std.com>  8 peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes:  F >>Well, if I understand the issue, it sounds like you may be trying to) >>track batch jobs by their entry number.   E >Not at all. I only have a lot of (equally named) logfiles and I need E >to find out why entry x failed (and hangs around retained on error). E >Searching with the entry number (and the date) is not enough because A >there are more than one entry number x per day. Thats all folks.   H Well, in that case, the job remains in the queue, and _its_ entry numberF won't be reused as long as you don't delete it from the queue, even ifK entry numbers of successfully completing jobs are used over and over again.    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:09:07 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)= Subject: Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Batch/Print Job Numbering $ Message-ID: <dt7kbj$j13$1@online.de>  F In article <43f72bd0@news.langstoeger.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes:    b > In article <43F6A30C.BCF5B109@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:L > >> you can see, that the same entry number is used more than once per day.! > >> And this is very annoying...  > >>   > >> Anybody ? Hoff ?  > > G > >Well, if I understand the issue, it sounds like you may be trying to * > >track batch jobs by their entry number. > F > Not at all. I only have a lot of (equally named) logfiles and I needF > to find out why entry x failed (and hangs around retained on error).F > Searching with the entry number (and the date) is not enough becauseB > there are more than one entry number x per day. Thats all folks.  H If the batch job is retained on error, then how can the entry number be  reused?   . I'm sure that I don't understand your problem.  C Can you have each batch job write its own entry number into the log G file?  When something is retained on error, then, as long as you don't  H delete the entry, the number can't be reused, and you can just look for " the entry number in the log files.   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Feb 2006 18:46:32 +01006 From: eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)= Subject: Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Batch/Print Job Numbering , Message-ID: <43f76b88$1@news.langstoeger.at>  w In article <dt7kbj$j13$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: I >If the batch job is retained on error, then how can the entry number be   >reused?   If it is reused before.   L And if the operator deletes the entry before I analyze the situation (again) then even after the error...   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.098 ************************