1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 07 Nov 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 613       Contents: Alpha Server 1000A woes  Re: Alpha Server 1000A woes  Re: Alpha Server 1000A woes 8 Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration$ application failover with RDB access( Re: application failover with RDB access( Re: application failover with RDB access Re: CIFS questions$ Re: e: Another Vax/Alpha/VMS triumph. First column of DS10  VGA console is truncated1 Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncated 1 Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncated 1 Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncated 1 Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncated 1 Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncated  How HP supports OpenVMS?0 Re: HP EAV SAN Over OC-3 Sonnet at high Latency?3 Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")} 3 Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")} 3 Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")} 3 Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")} 3 Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")} 3 Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")}  Mark Daniel where are you? Re: R/C Plane with Video Servo4 Re: Rich Marcello retiring to perform volunteer work( RE: Vintage Alpha/AXP t-shirt and othersD What hardware is at 800FFF80000h in a DS15? And other h/w questions.H Re: What hardware is at 800FFF80000h in a DS15? And other h/w questions.H Re: What hardware is at 800FFF80000h in a DS15? And other h/w questions.H Re: What hardware is at 800FFF80000h in a DS15? And other h/w questions.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:16:14 +0100# From: "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de>   Subject: Alpha Server 1000A woes4 Message-ID: <eipm96$5hp$1@registered.motzarella.org>  G Last night I added four memory boards to an ALpha Server 1000A 5/300. I L switched it on and a smoke came off one of the new boards. I powered it off,L removed the new boards: one of the seats has burn marks on it. Applied powerE again. The system beeped in a 1-3-3 interval which indicates that the ' firmware does not see any valid memory. L Any other diagnostics I can run? I want to find out whether I need an entire# new motherboard or just new memory.    Hans   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 06:54:34 -0800 # From: "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> $ Subject: Re: Alpha Server 1000A woesB Message-ID: <1162911274.784615.93620@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   gl@decadence.it schreef:  9 > Il Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:16:14 +0100, H Vlems ha scritto: K > > Last night I added four memory boards to an ALpha Server 1000A 5/300. I P > > switched it on and a smoke came off one of the new boards. I powered it off,P > > removed the new boards: one of the seats has burn marks on it. Applied powerI > > again. The system beeped in a 1-3-3 interval which indicates that the + > > firmware does not see any valid memory. P > > Any other diagnostics I can run? I want to find out whether I need an entire' > > new motherboard or just new memory.  >  > Hello! > I > On the CPU card there are a few jumpers which can drive the system into 4 > Power-Up Diagnostics through the operator display. > D > You should try all test in the order as shown in the Service GuideE > (6-2-4-5-3) but you could jump directly to test 4-5-3 which are for 3 > testing memory with and without cache and backup. H > More details in the AS1000 Owner's Guide and Service Guide, you shouldH > still find them on HP.com, otherwise drop me a line from a valid email
 > address. > I > The test will show you what is the faulty memory module on the LCD like  > this:  > FAIL B:0 S:2 > (failure on bank #0, SIMM #2)  >  > Ciao!  > glF Thanks! I have a copy of the User Guide. I'll check the HP website for a service guide.G The thing is: the manual AND the picture on the inside of the top cover B show a meory configuration that does not match the real thing! The@ diagrams show two pairs of slots at the bottom that are slightlyB unaligned (somewhat to the right) and contain ECC memory. My 5/300% doesn't seem to have these ECC banks.    Hans   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 07:14:06 -0800 1 From: "Bart.Zorn@gmail.com" <Bart.Zorn@gmail.com> $ Subject: Re: Alpha Server 1000A woesC Message-ID: <1162912446.680659.178080@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   D The Alpaserver 1000 or 1000A with an EV4 processor use the extra ECC( modules, the EV5 version of both do not.   HTH,  	 Bart Zorn    H Vlems wrote: > gl@decadence.it schreef: > ; > > Il Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:16:14 +0100, H Vlems ha scritto: M > > > Last night I added four memory boards to an ALpha Server 1000A 5/300. I R > > > switched it on and a smoke came off one of the new boards. I powered it off,R > > > removed the new boards: one of the seats has burn marks on it. Applied powerK > > > again. The system beeped in a 1-3-3 interval which indicates that the - > > > firmware does not see any valid memory. R > > > Any other diagnostics I can run? I want to find out whether I need an entire) > > > new motherboard or just new memory.  > > 
 > > Hello! > > K > > On the CPU card there are a few jumpers which can drive the system into 6 > > Power-Up Diagnostics through the operator display. > > F > > You should try all test in the order as shown in the Service GuideG > > (6-2-4-5-3) but you could jump directly to test 4-5-3 which are for 5 > > testing memory with and without cache and backup. J > > More details in the AS1000 Owner's Guide and Service Guide, you shouldJ > > still find them on HP.com, otherwise drop me a line from a valid email > > address. > > K > > The test will show you what is the faulty memory module on the LCD like 	 > > this:  > > FAIL B:0 S:2! > > (failure on bank #0, SIMM #2)  > > 	 > > Ciao!  > > glH > Thanks! I have a copy of the User Guide. I'll check the HP website for > a service guide.I > The thing is: the manual AND the picture on the inside of the top cover D > show a meory configuration that does not match the real thing! TheB > diagrams show two pairs of slots at the bottom that are slightlyD > unaligned (somewhat to the right) and contain ECC memory. My 5/300' > doesn't seem to have these ECC banks.  >  > Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:46:16 -0500 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> A Subject: Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration : Message-ID: <FZ6dnSgborX1W83YnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com>   Chris wrote:   > Bill Todd wrote: > ? >>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/03/sun_schwartz_markoff/  >>* >>(interview with Sun's CEO Mike Schwartz) >>	 >>[quote]  >>H >>In all seriousness, Schwartz's take on layoffs is either inspirationalI >>or naive. Sun appears to fund close to a bubble-sized workforce despite A >>not having a real bubble with which to play. But, where so many G >>companies decimate their workforce for a quick financial fix, Sun has  >>bet long-term. >>G >>"I don't believe employees are an expense," he said. "I don't believe ! >>they are a cost to be reduced."  >>F >>It's that type of attitude that truly seems to separate Sun from its >>competitors. >>
 >>[end quote]  >>G >>Schwartz is certainly a one-off, as was McNealy in the same position, H >>but while CEO blogging may not be likely to catch on as a fad any timeJ >>soon Sun has, after several years of missteps (the excellence of its Y2KI >>FirePlane large-system architecture was all that kept systems using its J >>increasingly lagging SPARC core remotely competitive), been making a lot? >>of outstanding moves recently (very competitive low-end SPARC C >>workstation pricing, USIV+ over a year ago that brought its large A >>systems back into the respectable range plus a recent make-over B >>improving the surrounding internal infrastructure, the extremely@ >>cost-effective T1/T2 8-core/32-thread server engine, increasedF >>mind-share from the open-sourcing of major products like Solaris andF >>Java, embrace of Opteron servers and recent shipment of leading-edgeG >>server and storage platforms based on them, the first significant new E >>file system to come along in the industry in close to a decade...).  >>H >>I don't know how safe a bet Sun is yet, but it's sure as hell the kindG >>of company that I'd *like* to bet on (IBM isn't actively off-putting, ( >>but is nowhere nearly as interesting). >> >>- bill >  >  > Where to go after Alpha ?  > H > Have been using a as500/400 system for development for the past 7 or 8J > years and a second Alphaserver for nfs and other stuff, but recently putJ > a Sparc system in to replace the server. Power consumption is getting toH > be more of an issue and needed to consolidate / cull the system count,H > while maintaining flexibility of system types. The Sparc box is usableI > as a workstation as well, so 3 systems provide Alpha, Sparc and Windows F > capability. Would like to stay with Alpha long term, but the lack ofH > commitment, applications and future prospects means that it's becomingF > increasingly difficult to justify. Sun, on the other hand, are stillI > very much independant and seem to have a clear vision of where they are B > going. The kit is every bit as well engineered as Dec, as is theI > software and there's so much added value out of the box, it's difficult F > to ignore. Present day Solaris is indeed a far cry from Solaris 2.5,7 > which was the last version I worked extensively with.  > D > Sun are interesting, smart and the web site speaks volumes about aH > culture and unheavy attitude. Perhaps the last of the real independantG > unix vendors ?. The sort of company many would have liked Dec to have  > become...  > 
 > Regards, >  > Chris   G OTOH, Sun seems to have a little problem keeping its web sites running  @ 24x7.  If you are selling systems intended as web servers, it's  extremely poor advertising.   B Sun also seems to have problems distributing patches: things like B patches with prerequisites that are not available, an index being G updated to show patches that are not available, or patches that should  & be in the index and are not, etc, etc.  G I recall a license agreement on one of their web sites that could only  E be read by panning back and forth; each paragraph was displayed as a  I very long line of text!!  I'm not a web designer by any means but when I  H put a document on my web page, I proof read it before putting it up and D then again after it's up.  There may be better ways to do it but it I certainly doesn't take rocket science to get it right and Sun just can't   seem to manage it!!   C Sun does some things better but they have their own problems which   sometimes seem intractable!    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 08:52:36 -0800 ! From: "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> - Subject: application failover with RDB access C Message-ID: <1162918356.022076.305610@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Hi guys,  E we are running RDB (Oracle Rdb V7.0-61), SQLSERVICES (v7.1-59) on a 5  node cluster on 2 sites. OpenVMS V7.3     site 1:   ! MP1  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS0.] ! MP2  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS1.]    site 2:   ! OP1  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS0.] ! OP2  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS1.]   QRM sys$sysroot = DSA300:[SYS0.]  : our application runs on node MP1 and uses the following DB% database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB   2 but for failover scenario we need to do a RMU/OPENF DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB on node OP1, are there any problems doing this ?  C RDB is started on nodes MP1 and OP1 but in normal operations the DB @ database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB is opened only on node MP1   thanks for your answers    N.Manser       SYSMAN> do rmu/show system/ %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node QRM F %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling  \RMU\/ %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP2 . %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRVG -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DSA100:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8 9 -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed / %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP1 6 Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node OP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:14.74C     - monitor started  8-APR-2006 22:29:10.31 (uptime 212 19:11:04) B     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;107"- database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 A     - first opened  8-APR-2006 22:30:00.82 (elapsed 212 19:10:13) )     - current after-image journal file is $ DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1575     - AIJ Log Server is active     - 2 active database users (     - database also open on these nodes:	       MP1 / %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP2 . %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRVG -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DSA200:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8 9 -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed / %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP1 6 Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node MP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:13.59A     - monitor started  2-NOV-2006 07:36:25.92 (uptime 5 10:03:47) A     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;79" ' database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB;1 ?     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 08:32:01.47 (elapsed 5 09:08:12) '     * database is opened by an operator E     - current after-image journal file is DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]AIJ25.AIJ;1 =     - global buffer count is 30000; 22250 global buffers free 1     - maximum global buffer count per user is 100 ,     - global section resides in system space     - AIJ Log Server is active     - 156 active database users - database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 ?     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 07:37:17.02 (elapsed 5 10:02:56) )     - current after-image journal file is $ DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1578     - AIJ Log Server is active     - 2 active database users (     - database also open on these nodes:	       OP1    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 08:54:56 -0800  From: gxys@uk2.net1 Subject: Re: application failover with RDB access C Message-ID: <1162918496.040506.265570@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>   B I'd guess the RDB software startup has not been run as it installs
 those images.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 09:29:39 -0800 ! From: "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> 1 Subject: Re: application failover with RDB access C Message-ID: <1162920579.725386.261400@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Norman Lastovica schrieb:    > Nazim wrote: > >  > > Hi guys, > > I > > we are running RDB (Oracle Rdb V7.0-61), SQLSERVICES (v7.1-59) on a 5  > > node cluster on 2 sites. > A > make sure that you've executed RMUSTART70 (or RMONSTART) on all  > thenodes.  > J > If you are using multi-version Rdb, then you'll probably need to executeJ > SYS$SHARE:RDB$SETVER prior to using RMU.  If this is the case, you could% > build a little DCL procedure to do:  >  > 	$ @SYS$SHARE:RDB$SETVER 70  > 	$ RMU/SHOW SYSTEM > ) > and execute that procedure from SYSMAN.  >  > > OpenVMS V7.3 > >  > > site 1:  > > % > > MP1  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS0.] % > > MP2  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS1.]  > >  > > site 2:  > > % > > OP1  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS0.] % > > OP2  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS1.] $ > > QRM sys$sysroot = DSA300:[SYS0.] > > > > > our application runs on node MP1 and uses the following DB) > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB  > > 6 > > but for failover scenario we need to do a RMU/OPENJ > > DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB on node OP1, are there any problems doing
 > > this ? > > G > > RDB is started on nodes MP1 and OP1 but in normal operations the DB D > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB is opened only on node MP1 > >  > > thanks for your answers  > >  > > N.Manser > >  > > SYSMAN> do rmu/show system3 > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node QRM J > > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling
 > >  \RMU\3 > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP2 2 > > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRVK > > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DSA100:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8 = > > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 3 > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP1 : > > Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node OP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:14.74G > >     - monitor started  8-APR-2006 22:29:10.31 (uptime 212 19:11:04) F > >     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;107"1 > > database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 E > >     - first opened  8-APR-2006 22:30:00.82 (elapsed 212 19:10:13) - > >     - current after-image journal file is ( > > DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1575" > >     - AIJ Log Server is active! > >     - 2 active database users , > >     - database also open on these nodes:
 > >       MP1 3 > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP2 2 > > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRVK > > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DSA200:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8 = > > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 3 > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP1 : > > Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node MP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:13.59E > >     - monitor started  2-NOV-2006 07:36:25.92 (uptime 5 10:03:47) E > >     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;79" + > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB;1 C > >     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 08:32:01.47 (elapsed 5 09:08:12) + > >     * database is opened by an operator I > >     - current after-image journal file is DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]AIJ25.AIJ;1 A > >     - global buffer count is 30000; 22250 global buffers free 5 > >     - maximum global buffer count per user is 100 0 > >     - global section resides in system space" > >     - AIJ Log Server is active# > >     - 156 active database users 1 > > database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 C > >     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 07:37:17.02 (elapsed 5 10:02:56) - > >     - current after-image journal file is ( > > DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1578" > >     - AIJ Log Server is active! > >     - 2 active database users , > >     - database also open on these nodes:
 > >       OP1  >   8 for our site RDB needs to run only on MP1 and OP1 nodes,  # so on both nodes the startup seq is    ....< $ @SYS$STARTUP:RMONSTART                        ! RDB V7.0-6 $ @SYS$STARTUP:SQLSRV$STARTUP71 G $ @SYS$STARTUP:DDAL$START_TR_MON.COM  DISK$DTC_COMMON:[DDAL.DATABASE] -    ........  A my question is, are there any issues when opening a database with E RMU/OPEN/WAIT/ACCESS=unrestricted <DB> on the node OP1 when the usual  node MP1 is down.    regards,   Nazim Manser     > -- > - - - - - 2 >  opinions expressed here are mine and mine alone/ >  and certainly are not intended in any way to 2 >  express or represent any opinions or commitment >  of oracle corporation.  > , >  norman lastovica / oracle rdb engineering   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:08:23 -0000* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: CIFS questions , Message-ID: <eiplus$1ql$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>  ; "bradhamilton" <bradhamilton@comcast.net> wrote in message  " news:454F904B.30102@comcast.net...  Z > The debug levels reveal a lot of warning/error messages related to varying C modules; I Y > get the impression that this particular RC is not ready for prime-time.  Back to SAMBA   > 2.2.8, I think...   C Evaluation releases are by definition, pre-beta. It's not something B I would personally use except for testing, unless I was desperate.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:25:21 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com - Subject: Re: e: Another Vax/Alpha/VMS triumph 0 Message-ID: <87odrjsdlq.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  ' frey@encompasserve.org (Sharon) writes:   @ > liken macro programming to mowing the lawn with tweezers.  :-)  @ Have you compared the size of the source of your tweezers with a `better' method?   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:24:17 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 7 Subject: First column of DS10  VGA console is truncated 8 Message-ID: <1b068$4550345f$cef8887a$31067@TEKSAVVY.COM>  I Now that I finally have a working VGA console with the dreaded Microsoft  J proprietary Blue Screen of Death background, I have a slight problem. The K first column seems too far to the left and the charaters are partly formed   off-screen.   L This is with a Radeon 7500 card on DS10L.  Is this normal with nothing that K can be done to resolve this ? Or are there steps that can be taken to make   the console more readable ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:06:45 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> : Subject: Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncated6 Message-ID: <6b01e$45503e53$cef8887a$990@TEKSAVVY.COM>   David B Sneddon wrote:/ > And you have no way of adjusting the monitor?   K If I tell the monitor to not scale the signal, I get a 640*480 blue square  K in the middle of the display. And in that unscaled image, it is also clear  J that the first column of text begins just left of the blue background and  hence truncated.  K In other words, it appears that it is the signal itself which contains the  M truncated characters, not the physical LCD display hiding parts of the image.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 03:52:13 -0800 $ From: "Camiel" <iamcamiel@gmail.com>: Subject: Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncatedC Message-ID: <1162900333.348424.311120@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>   1 > > And you have no way of adjusting the monitor?  > L > If I tell the monitor to not scale the signal, I get a 640*480 blue squareL > in the middle of the display. And in that unscaled image, it is also clearK > that the first column of text begins just left of the blue background and  > hence truncated. > L > In other words, it appears that it is the signal itself which contains theO > truncated characters, not the physical LCD display hiding parts of the image.   D This sounds like you're  using an LCD monitor. Scaling is often doneD after timing signals are interpreted, and the timing is porbably theA problem here. Can you try this with an old-fashioned CRT monitor?    Camiel.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 07:29:49 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> : Subject: Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncated8 Message-ID: <6288b$45507c33$cef8887a$20950@TEKSAVVY.COM>  K OK, I played around, rebooting my alpha. Perhaps it was my initial view of  E the VGA console that was screwed up because after a few resets, (>>>  L INITIALIZE) the console display would have the leftmost pixel of letters at % the very edge of the BSOD background.   J If the background had remained black, then the letters would appear to be F "complete" since the black areas left of the displayable screen would   complement the black background.  E But because of the Microsoft BSOD background which ends right at the  M leftmost pixel of the column 1 letters, those letters are harder to make out.   I And BTW, when the console initially starts, it is white on black for the  O first message, after which it unfortunatly switches to the Microsoft BSOD mode.   L Also, after having resetted the SRM a few times, I was also able to get the L composite video port to output the VGA display. So I can see the console on " my TV. (and capture it on my mac).  J And once DECWidnows switches to 1280*1024, the composite output continues G to spew out a signal, however it is no longer in NTSC size/timing so a  ! normal TV set only see jibberish.   L Now if I could only figure out how to make the card/console remain in white I on black mode instead of switching to white on Microsoft BSOD mode after   the first message.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 05:14:22 -0800 ; From: "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> : Subject: Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncatedC Message-ID: <1162905262.558451.299340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    JF Mezei wrote: L > OK, I played around, rebooting my alpha. Perhaps it was my initial view ofF > the VGA console that was screwed up because after a few resets, (>>>M > INITIALIZE) the console display would have the leftmost pixel of letters at ' > the very edge of the BSOD background.  > K > If the background had remained black, then the letters would appear to be G > "complete" since the black areas left of the displayable screen would " > complement the black background. > F > But because of the Microsoft BSOD background which ends right at theO > leftmost pixel of the column 1 letters, those letters are harder to make out.  > J > And BTW, when the console initially starts, it is white on black for theQ > first message, after which it unfortunatly switches to the Microsoft BSOD mode.  > M > Also, after having resetted the SRM a few times, I was also able to get the M > composite video port to output the VGA display. So I can see the console on $ > my TV. (and capture it on my mac). > K > And once DECWidnows switches to 1280*1024, the composite output continues H > to spew out a signal, however it is no longer in NTSC size/timing so a# > normal TV set only see jibberish.  > M > Now if I could only figure out how to make the card/console remain in white J > on black mode instead of switching to white on Microsoft BSOD mode after > the first message.  F On all the Alphas that I've owned/seen the white on black is the videoB card's own bios going through initialzation.  Even on systems withF built-in video chips like the AlphaServer 800's.  You very briefly seeF the bios version, etc then the SRM takes over and puts up the VGA blueG (There are only 16 colors to choose from so I guess we just got "lucky" A that MS chose the same color for the BSOD background) background. A AFAIK you can't change that.  FredK would know better about that.   B On the clipping problem, I have Samsung LCD's which have an "Auto"F button for adjusting the screen to a particular analog VGA signal.  IfF you're using a LCD then perhaps there is a way to make it adjust also.     John H. Reinhardt    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:08:23 -0500* From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>: Subject: Re: First column of DS10 VGA console is truncated, Message-ID: <45509358$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  + <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> wrote in message = news:1162905262.558451.299340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...  >  > JF Mezei wrote: K > > OK, I played around, rebooting my alpha. Perhaps it was my initial view  ofH > > the VGA console that was screwed up because after a few resets, (>>>L > > INITIALIZE) the console display would have the leftmost pixel of letters at) > > the very edge of the BSOD background.  > > J > > If the background had remained black, then the letters would appear to beI > > "complete" since the black areas left of the displayable screen would $ > > complement the black background. > > H > > But because of the Microsoft BSOD background which ends right at theL > > leftmost pixel of the column 1 letters, those letters are harder to make out. > > L > > And BTW, when the console initially starts, it is white on black for theH > > first message, after which it unfortunatly switches to the Microsoft
 BSOD mode. > > K > > Also, after having resetted the SRM a few times, I was also able to get  the L > > composite video port to output the VGA display. So I can see the console on& > > my TV. (and capture it on my mac). > > C > > And once DECWidnows switches to 1280*1024, the composite output 	 continues J > > to spew out a signal, however it is no longer in NTSC size/timing so a% > > normal TV set only see jibberish.  > > I > > Now if I could only figure out how to make the card/console remain in  white L > > on black mode instead of switching to white on Microsoft BSOD mode after > > the first message. > H > On all the Alphas that I've owned/seen the white on black is the videoD > card's own bios going through initialzation.  Even on systems withH > built-in video chips like the AlphaServer 800's.  You very briefly seeH > the bios version, etc then the SRM takes over and puts up the VGA blueI > (There are only 16 colors to choose from so I guess we just got "lucky" C > that MS chose the same color for the BSOD background) background. C > AFAIK you can't change that.  FredK would know better about that.  > D > On the clipping problem, I have Samsung LCD's which have an "Auto"H > button for adjusting the screen to a particular analog VGA signal.  IfH > you're using a LCD then perhaps there is a way to make it adjust also. >   D The SRM guys decided to stick with the familiar white on blue, and IK followed suit...  it could have been any two of 16 million colors - I guess H the familiarity of the color scheme was the deciding factor.  It "could"I change it when VMS runs... but what would be the point?  The driver's VGA J console mode reads the VGA state and tries to preserve the original timingK from the SRM/BIOS.  Most multi-sync monitors have a means of being adjusted  manually if the timing is off.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 10:45:13 -0800 3 From: "n.rieck@sympatico.ca" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> ! Subject: How HP supports OpenVMS? C Message-ID: <1162925113.590206.145670@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>     Is this how HP supports OpenVMS?   http://www.callcentermovie.com/   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener, Ontario, Canada.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 02:08:50 -0800  From: gxys@uk2.net9 Subject: Re: HP EAV SAN Over OC-3 Sonnet at high Latency? C Message-ID: <1162894130.610392.278100@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    Keith Parris presentations are  at  http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 06:39:04 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) < Subject: Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")}[ Message-ID: <rdeininger-0711060139160001@dialup-4.233.149.163.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>   9 In article <00A5E540.3C3E7BC5@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman-   @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  : >In article <eio13r$1d0c$1@pyrite.mv.net>, Stephen Hoffman* <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org> writes: >>  E >>   What might you be up to here?  What attribute, detail, hardware  N >>configuration or software or hardware are you looking to differentiate here? > I >For licensing purposes to track the machine that a particular product is I >licensed to.  I have found organizations with multiple machines and only I >a license for a single machine in that organization.  It would really be I >nice if a machine serial number -- accessible to software too -- was in- I >troduced again. Barring that, at least knowing that the software is on a I >machine of a particular type helps to keep the customer somewhat honest.   I Every HP Integrity server has a unique serial number.  It's put in during A manufacturing, and (for current systems) it can't be changed by a  non-privileged user.  / Various ways to see a system's serial number... A 1. For any of the entry-level systems with a Management Processor J installed, use the "df" (display FRU) command.  One of the FRUs (which oneB depends on the model of the system) displays a section of "chassisC information" that includes the system serial number.  Mid-range and G high-end systems probably have similar information, but the details may  differ slightly.  E 2. Again for entry-level systems (and with recent firmware), the boot J manager menu shows the system serial number in the right-hand panel of the display.  F 3. At the EFI shell, one of the "info" commands should show the serialA number.  I forget which command; "info all" shows you everything.   H If VMS shows you the serial number, the mechanism used escapes me at theD moment.  It might be that nobody realized the serial number would be< useful, and VMS isn't digging it up and making it available.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 01:53:55 -0800 / From: "Volker Halle" <volker_halle@hotmail.com> < Subject: Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")}B Message-ID: <1162893235.684700.315650@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>   SDA> CLUE CONFIG ... B SMBIOS Table   00000000.3FB3A020         Serial Number  DExxxxxxxx ...    SDA> EXA/PHY 3FB3A020;100   E will show the serial number and other 'interesting' information. Some ) reading in LIB.REQ may be useful as well.    Volker.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 02:37:30 -0800 / From: "Volker Halle" <volker_halle@hotmail.com> < Subject: Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")}B Message-ID: <1162895850.675472.284720@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>  
 $ ANAL/SYS SDA> READ SYSDEF" SDA> form @boo$ga_hwrpb/type=hwrpb ... E FFFFFFFF.8F8E6048   HWRPB$B_SYS_SERIALNUM                          xx C FFFFFFFF.8F8E6049                                   xxxxxxxx.xxxxxx E FFFFFFFF.8F8E6050                                   00000000.0000xxxx  ...   C It's the same serial number as shown in CLUE CONFIG. I did not shut * down our rx2600 to look at Shell> info all  F $ write sys$output f$getsyi("SERIAL_NUMBER") returns this string (from? the HWRPB). This argument is not described in the HELP text for G F$GETSYI, but listed in the system services ref. manual for SYS$GETSYI.    Volker.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:12:12 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG< Subject: Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")}0 Message-ID: <00A5E5C4.82A64731@SendSpamHere.ORG>  d In article <eiouls$1lhu$1@pyrite.mv.net>, Stephen Hoffman <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org> writes: >  > ! >VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > K >> For licensing purposes to track the machine that a particular product is K >> licensed to.  I have found organizations with multiple machines and only K >> a license for a single machine in that organization.  It would really be K >> nice if a machine serial number -- accessible to software too -- was in- K >> troduced again. Barring that, at least knowing that the software is on a K >> machine of a particular type helps to keep the customer somewhat honest.  > I >   Short of a USB dongle or such, I'm not aware of a way to assign that  H >sort of a serial number.  The usual approach is to collect up a series E >of configuration-specific details such as the system and disk model  G >information, the Ethernet NIC MAC address(es), the system disk GUIDs,  I >and otherwise, and use that together to determine the uniqueness of the   >host. > J >   [Would you be interested in a product that would provide this sort of  >thing?]  J I am already dealing with another company's product licensing that attempsK to collect this sort of data for licensing purposes.  It works to an extent 7 but also has certain "features" that make it a P.I.T.A.   K The USB dongle doesn't insure that the product is licensed for a particular K class of machine.  This would also require some traditional LMF techniques  < to complement the USB dongle.  This also consumes USB ports.   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:16:34 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG< Subject: Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")}0 Message-ID: <00A5E5C5.1E838019@SendSpamHere.ORG>  t In article <1162895850.675472.284720@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, "Volker Halle" <volker_halle@hotmail.com> writes: >  >  >$ ANAL/SYS  >SDA> READ SYSDEF # >SDA> form @boo$ga_hwrpb/type=hwrpb  >.... F >FFFFFFFF.8F8E6048   HWRPB$B_SYS_SERIALNUM                          xxD >FFFFFFFF.8F8E6049                                   xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxF >FFFFFFFF.8F8E6050                                   00000000.0000xxxx >....  > D >It's the same serial number as shown in CLUE CONFIG. I did not shut+ >down our rx2600 to look at Shell> info all  > G >$ write sys$output f$getsyi("SERIAL_NUMBER") returns this string (from @ >the HWRPB). This argument is not described in the HELP text forH >F$GETSYI, but listed in the system services ref. manual for SYS$GETSYI. >  >Volker.   Thanks Volker,  I I'll discuss this with the folks that own this product.  Like I said in a J previous message, I'm only the piano player -- maybe more appropriate, the piano tuner.   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:07:11 -0500 8 From: Stephen Hoffman <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org>< Subject: Re: Itanium model numbers {re F$getsyi("HW_MODEL")}) Message-ID: <eiqi0e$220t$1@pyrite.mv.net>    Bob Koehler wrote:  C >    This is why many vendors hash the ethernet mac number in their C >    license scheme.  And then they can't figure out how to get the F >    hardware address instead of the physical address when a system is >    running DECnet. > E >    Way back when I inheritted a bunch of 11/780s who's boot scripts E >    looked at the SID to determine by serial number which system was D >    being booted.  We had to mask of the hardware rev level when weE >    had the hardware upgraded, but the serial number (small on these F >    machines) was in there.  That stopped with the 11/750.  It was a & >    good thing that we lost early on. >   F    The top-end VAX system(s) at any given time typically had a serial  number mechanism of some sort.  B    The lower-end VAX systems tended not to have these implemented.  I    The VAX-11/780 series serial number could be reset via the backplane.  I   Once you opened the back door -- and watch out for the amperage on the  H SBI, obviously -- the VAX-11/780 serial number block was fairly obvious.  4      Message-ID: <38s7jf$hcq@nntp1.u.washington.edu>  H    The NIC MAC hardware address code is posted at the HP Ask The Wizard E website, IIRC, and it's likely also posted in the manuals and/or the   support database.   :      http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/swdev/ethernVMS.html  G    The MAC address itself is a socketed prom on many systems and NICs,  D and can be swapped around.  I wouldn't expect that blowing your own H choice wouldn't be a particular challenge.  (Though managing replicated E MAC addresses co-resident on the same network might well be somewhat   more of a challenge here.)  I    The Alpha serial number is set and settable via console command, IIRC.   3      http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_8096.html   I    If you can operate off DVD or CD, there are potentially some options.  D   Though these schemes are certainly not insurmountable, as various ) content providers can undoubtedly attest.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 08:47:33 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com # Subject: Mark Daniel where are you? B Message-ID: <1162918053.724837.85450@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   are you getting my emails?   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:56:44 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>' Subject: Re: R/C Plane with Video Servo > Message-ID: <go%3h.173461$3D1.50622@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   Neil Rieck wrote:    >>K > Google keeps adding functionality to their web page and I am now able to  ; > download this video. First off, click the following link:   G You can also use various flash downloaders and players. There's a free  I standalone flash video player for Windows (and probably other platforms)  G plus there are add-ons for Firefox which automate the whole thing. The  I advantage of these tools is they work for all flash video sites (Google,  A YouTube, MySpace etc) whether they have a download option or not.    --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 02:26:13 -0800  From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk= Subject: Re: Rich Marcello retiring to perform volunteer work B Message-ID: <1162895173.080597.76680@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  ' "The king is dead, long live the king."   C I wish Rich all the best in his new work and all that he wishes for  himself.  E Hopefully, Martin will take up the reins and will do as good a job as F Rich has done over the years.  New ideas, new thoughts, new approaches can often reap rewards.   A "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what  you've always got".   A I think Sue covered one of the most important aspects though - an  enterprise mindset.    Steve   
 Sue wrote:I > I know JF, call me wild and crazy but I think this newsgroup can manage 
 > this ;') > B > Bill, Pauline did a great job, both in NSK and Alpha but had herG > reasons for moving.  From everything I am hearding I am liking Martin  > more every day.  >  > Sue  >  > JF Mezei wrote: ' > > >Why not give Martin Fink a chance?  > >  > > Q > > Sue, how dare you put forth such a revolutionary idea to this group ? :-) :-)    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:29:33 +11006 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au>1 Subject: RE: Vintage Alpha/AXP t-shirt and others X Message-ID: <0A7046B0A95F2B41B3712F0C5FD1CDC303BBE6@ex-tg2-pr.corporate.transgrid.local>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7023E.78A85789 . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable          -----Original Message-----& From: vmsguy [mailto:vmsguy@telus.net] Sent: Tue 11/7/2006 3:18 PM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 1 Subject: FA: Vintage Alpha/AXP t-shirt and others  =20 3 I have up for auction some golden oldies including:   % - 1992 Alpha/AXP logo digital t-shirt   @ http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D130045106993   Others:   < - A very rare Hitchhiker's Guide to VMS t-shirt (never worn)2 - Process Software Land's End sweater (never worn)F - A classic TGV tie dye glow in the dark t-shirt (excellent condition)  I not sure where I got the last one - might have been at that TGV chocolate ) themed party in San Francisco one year...       
 **********  E This sounds like heresy, never having worn some of these t-shirts :-)   L The last sounds as if it was a bash organised by JF.  At least he keeps his=F  obesity down with all that chocolate by cycling round .ca and .au :-)  L JF, I am retiring next year (we have bought a retirement property where my =L wife already resides) which is on the Barrier Highway between Adelaide and =L Broken Hill about 200k North of Adelaide.  A little place call Hallett whic=L h is now on Google maps.  If you're (should I say your :-)?) ever cycling i=L n that area, send me private email, I'll give you my phone numbers and you'=' re ( or your :-)) welcome to stop over.   L [The most misspelt word here is "privilege".  The most misspelt "expression=L " is "your" or "you're" -- my mental parsing really slows down with this la= tter.]   Regards, Paddy    G *********************************************************************** ; Please consider the environment before printing this email.   C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of=20C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise D the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,=207 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.   C If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid=20 C immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the=20 ? individual sender except where the sender expressly and with=20 C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  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And other h/w questions. B Message-ID: <1162896053.002840.295970@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>  B I've booked some progress with the Alpha-emulator I'm writing, SRM firmware gets as far as this:   " This is serial port #0 on AlphaSim *** keyboard not plugged in... 64 Meg of system memory 0 Block FFF56020 is not in any zone, call pc 53a78 free: call pc 5a118  probing hose 1, PCI " bus 0, slot 8 -- pka -- NCR 53C895 probing hose 0, PCI   probing PCI-to-ISA bridge, bus 1 ERROR: ISA table corrupt!  Initializing table to defaults  " After that, things get garbled up.  E Before this, it looks like SRM tries to access some kind of device at G addresses 800fff80000 and 800fff80001. This is a location in PCI memory D space that is claimed by the Cypress chip (ISA, IDE and USB) for theE Extended-ROM on a PC. I've tried emulating Flash ROM here, but that's F not what SRM is expecting here. I have the idea that the unappropriateG responses SRM gets here are the cause of the later lock-up. Does anyone & have a clue as to what should be here?   Other questions I face are:   F * Where are serial numbers located in hardware? or: Where does SRM try- to get the information to build its FRU list? " * What is the layout of the NVRAM?   Thanks for any help,   Camiel.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:38:32 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) Q Subject: Re: What hardware is at 800FFF80000h in a DS15? And other h/w questions. [ Message-ID: <rdeininger-0711060738450001@dialup-4.233.149.188.dial1.manchester1.level3.net>   B In article <1162896053.002840.295970@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,% "Camiel" <iamcamiel@gmail.com> wrote:   C >I've booked some progress with the Alpha-emulator I'm writing, SRM  >firmware gets as far as this: > # >This is serial port #0 on AlphaSim  >*** keyboard not plugged in...  >64 Meg of system memory1 >Block FFF56020 is not in any zone, call pc 53a78  >free: call pc 5a118 >probing hose 1, PCI# >bus 0, slot 8 -- pka -- NCR 53C895  >probing hose 0, PCI! >probing PCI-to-ISA bridge, bus 1  >ERROR: ISA table corrupt! >Initializing table to defaults  > # >After that, things get garbled up.  > F >Before this, it looks like SRM tries to access some kind of device atH >addresses 800fff80000 and 800fff80001. This is a location in PCI memoryE >space that is claimed by the Cypress chip (ISA, IDE and USB) for the F >Extended-ROM on a PC. I've tried emulating Flash ROM here, but that'sG >not what SRM is expecting here. I have the idea that the unappropriate H >responses SRM gets here are the cause of the later lock-up. Does anyone' >have a clue as to what should be here?   B I don't see how you can get an emulated DS10 to work with standardE firmware unless you have access to the information in the DS10 system J programmer's manual.  That document is proprietary, and I don't believe it  was ever released to the public.  C An abbreviated version might have been made available for the linux I community.  Do you have access to linux code that supports the DS10?  You E might be able to reverse engineer the DS10 memory map using the linux  code.    >Other questions I face are: > 0 >* Where are serial numbers located in hardware?  C Somewhere in NVRAM.  There's no standard location on Alpha systems.    >or: Where does SRM try . >to get the information to build its FRU list?  J The SRM knows all the hardware details of the system, including the memory/ map, I/O device topology, and the core chipset.   H The FRU list is partly hard-wired, based on knowledge of the system, and2 partly filled in by probing for optional hardware.  # >* What is the layout of the NVRAM? < Again, this is documented in the system programmer's manual.  H Have you obtained the SROM code?  It does the initial hardware discoveryE and set-up, preparing the environment for the SRM.  In particular, it G typically figures out how much memory is present and sets up the memory  configuration registers.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 05:27:03 -0800 $ From: "Camiel" <iamcamiel@gmail.com>Q Subject: Re: What hardware is at 800FFF80000h in a DS15? And other h/w questions. B Message-ID: <1162906023.556035.41820@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Robert Deininger wrote: D > I don't see how you can get an emulated DS10 to work with standardG > firmware unless you have access to the information in the DS10 system L > programmer's manual.  That document is proprietary, and I don't believe it" > was ever released to the public.  F Okay, that doesn't sound very encouraging. I'll see what strings I can pull at HP, if any...   E > An abbreviated version might have been made available for the linux K > community.  Do you have access to linux code that supports the DS10?  You G > might be able to reverse engineer the DS10 memory map using the linux  > code.   E That's one of the ways I've been going at it; however, Linux does not  use all of the DS10's hardware.   2 > >* Where are serial numbers located in hardware?E > Somewhere in NVRAM.  There's no standard location on Alpha systems.   G Any idea what happens when that part of NVRAM is wiped? Would that mean E the system has to go back to HP for a re-programming with the correct  serial number?  % > >* What is the layout of the NVRAM? > > Again, this is documented in the system programmer's manual.  9 Seems like I need to get access to this document, then...   J > Have you obtained the SROM code?  It does the initial hardware discoveryG > and set-up, preparing the environment for the SRM.  In particular, it I > typically figures out how much memory is present and sets up the memory  > configuration registers.  C I have access to the Evaluation-board SDK. It does have SROM source E code for a 21264, but I think this code is not completely the same as  actual shipped SROM.  E Thanks for the information, I'll let you know when I get any further.    Camiel.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:16:09 -0500 8 From: Stephen Hoffman <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org>Q Subject: Re: What hardware is at 800FFF80000h in a DS15? And other h/w questions. ) Message-ID: <eiqih6$226a$1@pyrite.mv.net>   
 Camiel wrote:   2 > * Where are serial numbers located in hardware?   G    Which serial number?  The displayed system serial number is usually  J in an environment variable: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_8096.html  F    If the physical memory you're looking at is mapped by the Cypress, > see if you can dig up the technical manual for the particular F southbridge chip from whomever might have it.  Various of the vendors F have made their chip manuals available -- I don't know if this is the A case for the Cypress southbridge here, however.  The brute-force  9 approach, I know, but then you are writing an emulator...   @    And a call into the nice folks at HP might well pay off here.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.613 ************************