1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 08 Nov 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 614       Contents:8 Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration8 Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration( Re: application failover with RDB access Best web based dialer  DESTA's purpose  Re: DESTA's purpose  Re: DESTA's purpose  Re: How HP supports OpenVMS? MAIL Re: MAIL Re: MAIL Re: MAIL Re: Mark Daniel where are you? Re: Mark Daniel where are you? Re: Mark Daniel where are you?& Re: OpenVMS Vax 6.2 and pathworks 5.0B Re: OT: Hacking Democracy A Re: Recommendations for a Windows client for accessing Decwindows , Re: VMS V8.3 Sysgen> DEVICE_NAMING parameter  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:15:14 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>A Subject: Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration G Message-ID: <8dWdncYtJ80PvMzYnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com>    Richard B. Gilbert wrote:    ...   I > OTOH, Sun seems to have a little problem keeping its web sites running   > 24x7.   C If that's not very old news, it bears expanding upon:  I certainly  H recall a manufacturing defect related to zinc-whisker contamination and G a conspicuous design defect (lack of parity protection on their cache)  G back in the USII days, but haven't heard about any comparable problems   since then.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:48:42 -0500 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> A Subject: Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration : Message-ID: <LOKdnVMxcLkX2MzYnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@comcast.com>   Bill Todd wrote: > Richard B. Gilbert wrote:  >  > ...  > J >> OTOH, Sun seems to have a little problem keeping its web sites running  >> 24x7. >  > E > If that's not very old news, it bears expanding upon:  I certainly  J > recall a manufacturing defect related to zinc-whisker contamination and I > a conspicuous design defect (lack of parity protection on their cache)  I > back in the USII days, but haven't heard about any comparable problems  
 > since then.  >  > - bill  > docs.sun.com was down quite a few times this summer.  I think E sunsolve.sun.com was down at least a couple of times in the last six  > months.  Both of these sites are customer service type sites; E doc.sun.com has all the Sun documentation available for download and  A sunsolve.sun.com has (had) patches, the "Sun Handbook", software   downloads, etc.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:30:36 +08003 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> 1 Subject: Re: application failover with RDB access 1 Message-ID: <eir16p$mng$1@news-02.connect.com.au>   	 Hi Nazim,   I If this system runs anything other "Mom and Dad's corner Deli VAT return" K then I suspect that you (or the company you support) are in in big trouble! H Get yourself a professional DBA and pay them what they ask to do the jobK properly. The questions turning up here (and more so in the ITRC) about Rdb J are truly frightening. I wish I could find out who these companies are andA turn up to their next risk-assessment or shareholders meeting :-(   K Anyway no one can answer your question directly unless they know a bit more L about MP and OP. I suggest "yes" but if you've never tried a failover beforeJ then what are the extra machines there for. The fact that you appear to beH running Data Distributor raises an eyebrow, but my advice is to open theJ database on *all* nodes and use them *all* *all* of the time in possibly a wide-are cluster configuration.   G Rdb engineering hates clusters 'cos Norm doesn't get to use his beloved ( Row-Ca$h, but don't let that bother you.   Regards Richard Maher   , "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> wrote in message= news:1162918356.022076.305610@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... 
 > Hi guys, > G > we are running RDB (Oracle Rdb V7.0-61), SQLSERVICES (v7.1-59) on a 5  > node cluster on 2 sites. > OpenVMS V7.3 >  > 	 > site 1:  > # > MP1  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS0.] # > MP2  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS1.]  > 	 > site 2:  > # > OP1  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS0.] # > OP2  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS1.] " > QRM sys$sysroot = DSA300:[SYS0.] > < > our application runs on node MP1 and uses the following DB' > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB  > 4 > but for failover scenario we need to do a RMU/OPENH > DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB on node OP1, are there any problems doing > this ? > E > RDB is started on nodes MP1 and OP1 but in normal operations the DB B > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB is opened only on node MP1 >  > thanks for your answers  > 
 > N.Manser >  >  >  > SYSMAN> do rmu/show system1 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node QRM H > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling >  \RMU\1 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP2 0 > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRVI > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DSA100:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8 ; > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 1 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP1 8 > Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node OP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:14.74E >     - monitor started  8-APR-2006 22:29:10.31 (uptime 212 19:11:04) D >     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;107"/ > database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 C >     - first opened  8-APR-2006 22:30:00.82 (elapsed 212 19:10:13) + >     - current after-image journal file is & > DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1575  >     - AIJ Log Server is active >     - 2 active database users * >     - database also open on these nodes: >       MP1 1 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP2 0 > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRVI > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file DSA200:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8 ; > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 1 > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP1 8 > Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node MP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:13.59C >     - monitor started  2-NOV-2006 07:36:25.92 (uptime 5 10:03:47) C >     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;79" ) > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB;1 A >     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 08:32:01.47 (elapsed 5 09:08:12) ) >     * database is opened by an operator G >     - current after-image journal file is DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]AIJ25.AIJ;1 ? >     - global buffer count is 30000; 22250 global buffers free 3 >     - maximum global buffer count per user is 100 . >     - global section resides in system space  >     - AIJ Log Server is active! >     - 156 active database users / > database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 A >     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 07:37:17.02 (elapsed 5 10:02:56) + >     - current after-image journal file is & > DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1578  >     - AIJ Log Server is active >     - 2 active database users * >     - database also open on these nodes: >       OP1  >    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 13:56:02 -0800 ! From: "raja" <kasu.rao@gmail.com>  Subject: Best web based dialerC Message-ID: <1162936562.155125.247580@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    WIN TECH Best web based dialer VoIP Call Center Technology E Our model allows everyone from a startup Call Center with a few seats B to a large center with thousands of seats to realize the very bestA technology resources and lowest costs. Our model allows any sized G business, on any sized budget, to build or expand a contact center with ; sophisticated functionality - with just PCs and a broadband D connection. Our VoIP platform allows crystal-clear voice quality and? nearly ever-advanced feature found in much, much more expensive ? products - without any hardware, software, or traditional phone C lines. And for those enterprises with advanced CRM needs, only WINS F come ready-to-run with certified plug-and-play integrations. We intendD on helping small companies grow and large companies reduce operating costs with this product.  B Web-Based Predictive Dialer Solution [Requirements: PC, Head sets, Internet connection]6 Very low Investment [Very low rent per seat per month] Simple to Learn   Secure & Reliable Infrastructure  = If you need more info, please contact us at wins247@gmail.com   G [Business Outsource: Finding good clients for our Call Centers networks D is a prime objective of our Call Center services, if center need the7 business also we will find & provide the best business]     Regards,
 Rajender kasu  Kasu.rao@gmail.com   www.wins247.com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 13:52:11 -0700, From: David D Miller <ddmiller@raytheon.com> Subject: DESTA's purposeV Message-ID: <OF6DA7A145.A4A14A97-ON0725721F.007238B9-0725721F.0072941C@mck.us.ray.com>   Folks   F "DESTA Director" is running 100% (on a two CPU ES45, OVMS 7.3) and hasK acquired about 20-25 BG devices in a 24 hour period.  This is a stand-alone H system with only a couple of PCs connecting via REXEC.  Do I really need3 DESTA.  Incidentally HELP DESTA isn't very helpful.   = Pointers to docs and other helpful tips would be appreciated.    dave.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:56:38 -0500 8 From: Stephen Hoffman <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org> Subject: Re: DESTA's purpose) Message-ID: <eiqvek$25v3$1@pyrite.mv.net>    David D Miller wrote:   H > "DESTA Director" is running 100% (on a two CPU ES45, OVMS 7.3) and hasM > acquired about 20-25 BG devices in a 24 hour period.  This is a stand-alone J > system with only a couple of PCs connecting via REXEC.  Do I really need5 > DESTA.  Incidentally HELP DESTA isn't very helpful.   <    The following reply probably isn't the answer you want...  D    DESTA Director is a hunk of Java that is part of the WEBEM/WEBES H stuff, and there's a run-away problem that's been occasionally seen and G reported -- first report I can recall was probably three or four years  H ago.  Check the ECOs for OpenVMS, for Java, and for the WEBEM / WEBES / I HPSEA / CA stuff.  (I do not recall seeing a specific fix targeting this  F looping problem, but then I also haven't poked around on ITRC looking 	 for one.)   G    IIRC, there is/was also a mechanism available within the WEBES PCSI  I installation kit where you could ask it to only define the WEBES-related  ? logical names, and to not restart the DESTA Director on reboot.   A    Failing resolution via ECO and assuming that you are not in a  I position to more directly engage the HP support folks that own the DESTA  I Director pieces, there was a suggestion made by Robert Fairfield a while  I back around letting DESTA Director start up and configure itself and the  G run-time, and to then issue a DESTA STOP command to shut the component  G down.  Or reconfigure the WEBES kit's installation environment to only   define the logical names.    >  Do I really need DESTA.  F    That's up to you and your environment, obviously.  I know of folks B that use the DESTA Director, and I know of folks that shut it off.  - > Incidentally HELP DESTA isn't very helpful.   H    Do let the HP folks know about that feedback, assuming that somebody  from HP doesn't see it here.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 13:49:48 -0800  From: sean@obanion.us  Subject: Re: DESTA's purposeB Message-ID: <1162936187.946649.305790@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>   Dave,   D DESTA is part of ISEE or WEBES, mostly depending on which version ofD VMS you have and your support level, but also the whim of HP support services this week...   F If your system is under support and you want it to report errors to HP9 automatically, this is one of the process that does that.   4 Here is the ISEE insllation guide for all platforms:@ http://docs.hp.com/en/5990-8547/index.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN  E This might be the ISEE home page, but nothing is really calling that: ? http://h20219.www2.hp.com/services/cache/10709-0-0-225-121.html     This is the home page for WEBES:A http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/svctools/?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN      Sean   David D Miller wrote:  > Folks  > H > "DESTA Director" is running 100% (on a two CPU ES45, OVMS 7.3) and hasM > acquired about 20-25 BG devices in a 24 hour period.  This is a stand-alone J > system with only a couple of PCs connecting via REXEC.  Do I really need5 > DESTA.  Incidentally HELP DESTA isn't very helpful.  > ? > Pointers to docs and other helpful tips would be appreciated.  >  > dave.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 11:30:23 -0800   From: "Mike" <mlpoole@gmail.com>% Subject: Re: How HP supports OpenVMS? C Message-ID: <1162927822.985694.144080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    This is hilarious!       n.rieck@sympatico.ca wrote: " > Is this how HP supports OpenVMS? > ! > http://www.callcentermovie.com/  >  > Neil Rieck > Kitchener, Ontario, Canada.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 15:55:47 -0800 " From: "ANDY" <J_WARDLOW@YAHOO.COM>
 Subject: MAIL C Message-ID: <1162943747.600263.258250@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>   C Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user . with a file that will show up as an attachment   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 16:02:55 -0800  From: apogeusistemas@gmail.com Subject: Re: MAIL C Message-ID: <1162944175.872317.285350@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    ANDY escreveu:E > Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user 0 > with a file that will show up as an attachment  - Yes, use uuencode (uucode), from process.com:   - http://vms.process.com/fileserv-software.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:26:12 +0100 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch>  Subject: Re: MAIL J Message-ID: <paul.sture.nospam-4C4A3E.01261208112006@mac.sture.homeip.net>  C In article <1162943747.600263.258250@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, $  "ANDY" <J_WARDLOW@YAHOO.COM> wrote:  E > Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user 0 > with a file that will show up as an attachment  E Yes. Use either the VMS MIME utility (RUN SYS$SYSTEM:MIME) or better  7 still, get MPACK and MUNPACK from the VMS Freeware CDs.   H You use them to add an attachment to a text file, then use MAIL to send  that.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:46:13 -0600 (CST)* From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: MAIL 2 Message-ID: <06110718461300_2020028F@antinode.org>  " From: "ANDY" <J_WARDLOW@YAHOO.COM>  E > Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user 0 > with a file that will show up as an attachment      Several.  See the VMS FAQ.   4       http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/openvms_faq.html4       http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq_stmlf.txt  :       6.2   HOW DO I SEND OR READ ATTACHMENTS IN VMS MAIL?       [...]   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  3    Steven M. Schweda               sms@antinode-org 4    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 651-699-9818    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:13:57 +1030 * From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@vsm.com.au>' Subject: Re: Mark Daniel where are you? 0 Message-ID: <12l1ohncrjda0e6@corp.supernews.com>   bob@instantwhip.com wrote: > are you getting my emails?  ; No Bob.  Nothing from an rac@ or @instantwhip or bob@, etc.   E And the above are not getting quarrantined by VSM's anti-SPAM either  6 (Process Software PMAS - no charge for that Hunter :-)   There is always the advice at   .    http://wasd.vsm.com.au/support/contact.html   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 13:36:27 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com ' Subject: Re: Mark Daniel where are you? A Message-ID: <1162935387.108059.22490@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>   D any ideas?  I even tried like I said your work around to get this to
 run cgi using   F and yes I read your work around in the documentation and tried this in soymail.conf   [if-CGI-rac] [private-access] [if-end]   [private-access] user/Default/USER   D and I still get the insufficient priviledge ... here is the HTML ... HELP!      <HTML> <HEAD>D <META NAME="generator" CONTENT="SOYMAIL AXP-1.2.2, CGILIB AXP-1.8.8, 24-OCT-2006 16:06:06.85"> @ <META NAME="environment" CONTENT="Purveyor Encrypt Domestic/v2.1	 OpenVMS"> ? <META NAME="language" CONTENT="English mark.daniel@vsm.com.au"> , <TITLE>soyMAIL @ www.marblecliff.com</TITLE> </HEAD>  <BODY>B <B>Fatal soyMAIL Error:</B>&nbsp; Insufficient privilege or object protection violation. 9 <!-- ***** REPORTING MODULE:LINE IS REQUEST:741 ***** -->  </BODY>  </HTML>    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 13:38:23 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com ' Subject: Re: Mark Daniel where are you? B Message-ID: <1162935503.732961.86440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>  D any ideas?  I even tried like I said your work around to get this to
 run cgi using   F and yes I read your work around in the documentation and tried this in soymail.conf    
 [if-CGI-user]  [private-access] [if-end]     [private-access] user/Default/USER     D and I still get the insufficient priviledge ... here is the HTML ... HELP!      <HTML> <HEAD>D <META NAME="generator" CONTENT="SOYMAIL AXP-1.2.2, CGILIB AXP-1.8.8, 24-OCT-2006 16:06:06.85"> @ <META NAME="environment" CONTENT="Purveyor Encrypt Domestic/v2.1	 OpenVMS"> ? <META NAME="language" CONTENT="English mark.dan...@vsm.com.au"> , <TITLE>soyMAIL @ www.marblecliff.com</TITLE> </HEAD>  <BODY>B <B>Fatal soyMAIL Error:</B>&nbsp; Insufficient privilege or object protection violation. 9 <!-- ***** REPORTING MODULE:LINE IS REQUEST:741 ***** -->  </BODY>  </HTML>    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:31:15 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>/ Subject: Re: OpenVMS Vax 6.2 and pathworks 5.0B > Message-ID: <TO74h.174462$3D1.59026@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>  
 nst wrote:1 > Are there any PCSA experts reading comp.os.vms?  > N > We moved three Vaxes and one Alpha onto a virtual vax. Everything went fine N > except  when connecting Pathworks DOS [(LMDOS) machine is a 386 20MhzCompaq , > PC] we see only the top level directories.  G My first suspicion is there's a problem with file permissions or ACLs.  F What happens if you write a file from the PC to the Pathworks shares?  can you see it from the PC?      --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 11:41:40 -0800   From: "Mike" <mlpoole@gmail.com>" Subject: Re: OT: Hacking DemocracyB Message-ID: <1162928500.157172.244780@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>  C I saw this movie too.  It is unbelievable that Microsoft Access can  edit the smart card results.       Wilm Boerhout wrote:' > on 5-11-2006 1:58 Neil Rieck wrote... 	 > > Team,  > > P > > I just saw a shocking video last night on HBO titled "Hacking Democracy". IfM > > this program is only 10% accurate we are all screwed. Check the following  > > link for more information: > I > International, too: for the upcoming (Nov. 22nd) national elections for G > our "Parlement" (~US Congress), an effective lobby caused the current J > government to withdraw the permit for use of one type of voting machine,F > on the grounds that EM radiation could be picked up as far as 100 ftH > away from the machine, and converted into voting data. (This breach ofI > "voting security" was actually demonstrated by the lobby). Another type 2 > of voting machine is still permitted by the way. > I > Interestingly, a decision of some city councils to revert to their "old I > voting computers" was swiftly repressed when it became known that these . > were Windows 95 PC's with floppy disk units. > F > So, for 34 communities, including the entire city of Amsterdam, thisJ > means "back to the fifties", marking the vote on a paper list with a redG > pencil. Government secured delivery of 100.000 pencils for the voting 	 > booths.  >  > Wilm Boerhout  > Zwolle, The Netherlands    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:01:54 -0800 * From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com>J Subject: Re: Recommendations for a Windows client for accessing Decwindows) Message-ID: <op.tioahgo1tte90l@hyrrokkin>   3 On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:09:29 -0800, Wilm Boerhout   & <w5OLD.boerhout@PAINTplanet.nl> wrote:  $ > on 5-11-2006 6:15 Gremlin wrote...
 >> Please? > / > Assuming you mean a Windows X display server:  > K > I've been using Xming ( http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes ) for   ( > some time now. Very pleased with it... > D > Before that, I used the old eXcursion package from the PATHWORKS  H > distribution. Also works fine, but Xming also displays stuff from my   > Linux X clients. >  > /Wilm   D I downloaded it to a W2K Server, and when I tried installing it saidF that it had to be Windowns NT 5.01 or later, which I discovered is XP.G So I'll try it on that.  Well that installed easily enough, now i guess   I have to read how to use it :-|   --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2006 18:45:53 -0500 . From: brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks)5 Subject: Re: VMS V8.3 Sysgen> DEVICE_NAMING parameter , Message-ID: <cqvr6vygB62p@cuebid.zko.hp.com>  5 "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:   N > Saw what could be intersting behaviour the other day. On an 8.3 machine withK > the Device_Naming parameter set to the default zero, there were oodles of K > _TNA: device with 5 digit names that started annoying a whole lot of code " > that expected a maximum of 9999. > L > To me, it looks like a bug 'cos bit 1 is not set so the "new" rules shouldN > not come into affect but, going forward, would setting Device_Naming to 4 or > 5 solve the problem?  L I think that you have it backward; the observed behaviour is expected, givenI your setting for DEVICE_NAMING.  Also note that the relevant bit is bit 2 I (a mask value of 4).  As shown below, the default (0 value) setting is to  allow large unit numbers.   L In the future, please try to work the word "bollocks" into your postings :-)     $ mc sysgen  SYSGEN>  HELP SYS_P DEVICE_NAM   Sys_Parameters     DEVICE_NAMING   E        (Alpha and I64) DEVICE_NAMING is a bit mask indicating whether E        port allocation classes are used in forming SCSI device names.   '        Following is the bit definition:           Bit   Definition   %        0     If 1, enable new naming.   ;        1     Must be 0. This bit is reserved for use by HP.   >        2     If 1, cloned device unit numbers wrap after 9999.     --    H Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.614 ************************