1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 08 Nov 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 615       Contents:  Alpha Server 1000A memory needed$ Re: Alpha Server 1000A memory needed$ Re: Alpha Server 1000A memory needed8 Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration8 Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration( Re: application failover with RDB access( Re: application failover with RDB access Re: MAIL Re: MAIL Re: MAIL Re: MAIL Re: MAIL Re: Mark Daniel where are you? Re: Mark Daniel where are you?& Re: OpenVMS Vax 6.2 and pathworks 5.0B& Re: OpenVMS Vax 6.2 and pathworks 5.0B& Re: OpenVMS Vax 6.2 and pathworks 5.0BP Re: Portability (was: Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration) # Re: Tool to convert BMP image to PS # Re: Tool to convert BMP image to PS # Re: Tool to convert BMP image to PS # Re: Tool to convert BMP image to PS , Re: VMS V8.3 Sysgen> DEVICE_NAMING parameter, Re: VMS V8.3 Sysgen> DEVICE_NAMING parameter Re: WASD v9.2 Release < Re: WASD v9.2 Release [now overly long and probably tedious]  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:12:46 +0100# From: "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> ) Subject: Alpha Server 1000A memory needed 4 Message-ID: <455200d2$0$1633$bf4948fe@news.tele2.nl>  J All memory modules were tested, various combinations of pairs of memory toG form quad-sets. In all cases the dreaded 1-3-3 beep sound was heard: no  working memory detected.# At this point I have two questions: A 1) is somebody willing to test the memory in another 1000A 5/300? @ 2) would some kind soul sell or give me memory for this machine?   Hans   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 08:32:42 -0800  From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk- Subject: Re: Alpha Server 1000A memory needed A Message-ID: <1163003562.784788.23170@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>    How much do you want/need Hans?    Steve    H Vlems wrote:L > All memory modules were tested, various combinations of pairs of memory toI > form quad-sets. In all cases the dreaded 1-3-3 beep sound was heard: no  > working memory detected.% > At this point I have two questions: C > 1) is somebody willing to test the memory in another 1000A 5/300? B > 2) would some kind soul sell or give me memory for this machine? >  > Hans   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:17:56 -0700, From: David D Miller <ddmiller@raytheon.com>- Subject: Re: Alpha Server 1000A memory needed V Message-ID: <OF59F7A543.F9A35DBC-ON07257220.0064334F-07257220.006474FB@mck.us.ray.com>   Hans  G In the past, I've had good luck ordering memory for Alphas from Kahlon.  Try   ' http://www.kahlon.com/dm34_Digital.html    dave.   > "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> wrote on 11/08/2006 09:12:46 AM:  I > All memory modules were tested, various combinations of pairs of memory  toI > form quad-sets. In all cases the dreaded 1-3-3 beep sound was heard: no  > working memory detected.% > At this point I have two questions: C > 1) is somebody willing to test the memory in another 1000A 5/300? B > 2) would some kind soul sell or give me memory for this machine? >  > Hans >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:12:16 -0500 3 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> A Subject: Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration : Message-ID: <zvudnRcoeb9CnM_YnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com>  
 Andrew wrote:  > Richard B. Gilbert wrote:  >  >>Bill Todd wrote: >> >>>Richard B. Gilbert wrote: >>>  >>>... >>>  >>> J >>>>OTOH, Sun seems to have a little problem keeping its web sites running	 >>>>24x7.  >>>  >>> E >>>If that's not very old news, it bears expanding upon:  I certainly J >>>recall a manufacturing defect related to zinc-whisker contamination andI >>>a conspicuous design defect (lack of parity protection on their cache) I >>>back in the USII days, but haven't heard about any comparable problems  >>>since then. >>> 	 >>>- bill  >>? >>docs.sun.com was down quite a few times this summer.  I think F >>sunsolve.sun.com was down at least a couple of times in the last six? >>months.  Both of these sites are customer service type sites; F >>doc.sun.com has all the Sun documentation available for download andB >>sunsolve.sun.com has (had) patches, the "Sun Handbook", software >>downloads, etc.  >  > I > Netcraft shows docs.sun.com as having an uptime of 102 days. So it must  > have been early summer.  > 	 > regards  > Andrew >   E If you call July "early summer".  There were several instances, each  > noted on either comp.unix.solaris, comp.sys.sun.admin or both.  I Searching back in groups.google.com, I find the last reported outage was  E   June 2.  So it was spring and early summer that I was thinking of.  4 That was by no means the only outage of Sun's sites.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 18:29:40 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)A Subject: Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration / Message-ID: <4rem0kFr6en7U1@mid.individual.net>   B In article <1163005546.986132.84710@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, 	etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk writes: H > On that topic Bill, HP have put lots of effort into making VMS be able1 > to take Unix code and compile/link/run on VMS.    > Say what?  Do you mean the (defunct) POSIX stuff? It is nearly> impossible to compile the majority of Unix code on VMS and the? code that has been has taken a considerable effort and requires A even more just to try and stay close to the current Unix version.   I >                                                 Interesting that nobody F > has thought of adding the functionality to a Unix to make it compile > link and run VMS code...  E Like what?  Name one package available on VMS in source that does not G already have an equivalent under Unix that works as well if not better?    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:00:30 +08003 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> 1 Subject: Re: application failover with RDB access 1 Message-ID: <eisglb$t4g$1@news-02.connect.com.au>   	 Hi Nazim,   @ > that is why i was assigned the task to ensure correct failover > strategy.   L And you're a contractor right? (Or you boss is a contractor?) Let's hope theJ customers not reading this eh :-) I'd love to know how much the contract'sG for, but then it's Cologne and not Munich and it's none of my business.   L Anyway, is there not a UAT or other test environment that this can be tested	 in first?   J I'll assume not. When you do an RMU/DUMP/HEADER on the database(s) do theyL say number of cluster nodes is "1"? If they do then you'll have to make sureI the databases are closed on MP1 before trying to open them on OP1. If not I just open them up on both nodes and fire up the application on both nodes K (if it's cluster tolerant) and get the application testing people involved.   H > so as you say, the RMU/open should be done on both MP1 and OP1 as soon > as they reboot. correct ?   H No, I was suggesting that the beauty of VMS clusters and Rdb is that youL don't have to "fail-over" because, personally, I would open the database andJ the application on all of the nodes all of the time. If MP1 goes down thenF there would be a pregnant-pause followed by MP1 users having to log inH again, but that's it. The cluster took a lickin' but it kept on tickin'.I With Rdb partitioned lock trees and all the work VMS engineering has been J doing with the DLM *and* the new interconnect stuff coming along, I see no< point in restricting a database to one node. (Never have :-)  K The fact that you're using Data Distributor (why?) leeds me to suspect that I not all disks are accessible cluster wide or there's something dodgy with J the application. Our DR used to be copying RBFs over to the mirror machineH and restoring them and rolloing forward AIJs. Once every couple of yearsK we'd be forced to run in DR for a week and then switch back with no loss of H data. They were *never* able to get the Unix systems to achieve the sameF thing! (They'd just get someone to log on and that would be that. i.e.L production never shifted) VMS guys were moving to a Disaster Tolerant set up when I left.  D My *guess* is everything will be ok except for DNS cache flushes andL hard-coded SQL/Services server names. (But then, if I was getting paid to do it, I'd make sure :-)    Regards Richard Maher   , "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> wrote in message= news:1162981579.381769.299700@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...  >  > Richard Maher schrieb: > 
 > > Hi Nazim,  > > E > > If this system runs anything other "Mom and Dad's corner Deli VAT  return" F > > then I suspect that you (or the company you support) are in in big trouble!L > > Get yourself a professional DBA and pay them what they ask to do the jobK > > properly. The questions turning up here (and more so in the ITRC) about  Rdb J > > are truly frightening. I wish I could find out who these companies are and E > > turn up to their next risk-assessment or shareholders meeting :-(  > @ > that is why i was assigned the task to ensure correct failover > strategy.  >  > > J > > Anyway no one can answer your question directly unless they know a bit moreI > > about MP and OP. I suggest "yes" but if you've never tried a failover  beforeK > > then what are the extra machines there for. The fact that you appear to  beL > > running Data Distributor raises an eyebrow, but my advice is to open theL > > database on *all* nodes and use them *all* *all* of the time in possibly a # > > wide-are cluster configuration.  > >  > ; > MP1 and OP1 are on 2 sites but share the samefile system.  > to be precise  > 1 > the file layout of the RDB stuff is as follows:  > 2 > root file location :      dsa618:[db_disk001.db]- > RDA & SNP files:     dsa618:[db_disk001.db] 7 >                                dsa618:[db_disk002.db] 7 >                                dsa618:[db_disk003.db] 5 > AIJ files:                   dsa616:[db_diskA01.db] 7 >                                dsa616:[db_diskA02.db] . > RUJ files                  dsa617:[rdms$ruj] >  >  > MP1>sh dev dsa618  > G > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  > Trans Mnt H >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks > Count Cnt H > DSA618:                 Mounted              0  DMG_DB        32582436
 > 7696   4B > $1$DGA230:    (OP2)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA618:)B > $1$DGA430:    (MP1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA618:) > MP1>sh dev dsa621  > G > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  > Trans Mnt H >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks > Count Cnt H > DSA621:                 Mounted              0  DMG_DB2       12936924
 >    5   4B > $1$DGA214:    (OP2)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA621:)B > $1$DGA414:    (MP1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA621:) > MP1>sh dev dsa616  > G > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  > Trans Mnt H >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks > Count Cnt H > DSA616:                 Mounted              0  DMG_AIJ        8673228
 >  100   4B > $1$DGA210:    (OP2)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA616:)B > $1$DGA410:    (MP1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA616:) > MP1>sh dev dsa617  > G > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  > Trans Mnt H >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks > Count Cnt H > DSA617:                 Mounted              0  DMG_RUJ       17359776
 >  165   4B > $1$DGA211:    (OP2)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA617:)B > $1$DGA411:    (MP1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA617:) >  > 4 > usually a RMU/open on that DB is done only on MP1.B > i would like to know what happens, when in case of failover (MP1' > crashes) i do a RMU/open on OP1 node.  > C > as it is a mission critical production DB, i want to be sure 100% $ > before updating our documentation. > H > so as you say, the RMU/open should be done on both MP1 and OP1 as soon > as they reboot. correct ?  > > > i an new (2 months) and i inherited, the task to support the& > application and its underklying RDB. > 
 > regards, >  > Nazim Manser > K > > Rdb engineering hates clusters 'cos Norm doesn't get to use his beloved , > > Row-Ca$h, but don't let that bother you. > >  > > Regards Richard Maher  > > 0 > > "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> wrote in messageA > > news:1162918356.022076.305610@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...  > > > Hi guys, > > > K > > > we are running RDB (Oracle Rdb V7.0-61), SQLSERVICES (v7.1-59) on a 5  > > > node cluster on 2 sites. > > > OpenVMS V7.3 > > >  > > > 
 > > > site 1:  > > > ' > > > MP1  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS0.] ' > > > MP2  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS1.]  > > > 
 > > > site 2:  > > > ' > > > OP1  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS0.] ' > > > OP2  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS1.] & > > > QRM sys$sysroot = DSA300:[SYS0.] > > > @ > > > our application runs on node MP1 and uses the following DB+ > > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB  > > > 8 > > > but for failover scenario we need to do a RMU/OPENL > > > DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB on node OP1, are there any problems doing > > > this ? > > > I > > > RDB is started on nodes MP1 and OP1 but in normal operations the DB F > > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB is opened only on node MP1 > > >  > > > thanks for your answers  > > >  > > > N.Manser > > >  > > >  > > >   > > > SYSMAN> do rmu/show system5 > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node QRM L > > > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling > > >  \RMU\5 > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP2 4 > > > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRV  > > > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file, DSA100:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8? > > > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 5 > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP1 < > > > Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node OP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:14.74I > > >     - monitor started  8-APR-2006 22:29:10.31 (uptime 212 19:11:04) H > > >     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;107"3 > > > database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 G > > >     - first opened  8-APR-2006 22:30:00.82 (elapsed 212 19:10:13) / > > >     - current after-image journal file is * > > > DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1575$ > > >     - AIJ Log Server is active# > > >     - 2 active database users . > > >     - database also open on these nodes: > > >       MP1 5 > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP2 4 > > > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRV  > > > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file, DSA200:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8? > > > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 5 > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP1 < > > > Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node MP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:13.59G > > >     - monitor started  2-NOV-2006 07:36:25.92 (uptime 5 10:03:47) G > > >     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;79" - > > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB;1 E > > >     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 08:32:01.47 (elapsed 5 09:08:12) - > > >     * database is opened by an operator K > > >     - current after-image journal file is DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]AIJ25.AIJ;1 C > > >     - global buffer count is 30000; 22250 global buffers free 7 > > >     - maximum global buffer count per user is 100 2 > > >     - global section resides in system space$ > > >     - AIJ Log Server is active% > > >     - 156 active database users 3 > > > database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 E > > >     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 07:37:17.02 (elapsed 5 10:02:56) / > > >     - current after-image journal file is * > > > DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1578$ > > >     - AIJ Log Server is active# > > >     - 2 active database users . > > >     - database also open on these nodes: > > >       OP1  > > >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 04:49:32 -0800 ! From: "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> 1 Subject: Re: application failover with RDB access C Message-ID: <1162990172.492625.213000@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Richard Maher schrieb:   > Hi Nazim,  > B > > that is why i was assigned the task to ensure correct failover
 > > strategy.  > N > And you're a contractor right? (Or you boss is a contractor?) Let's hope theL > customers not reading this eh :-) I'd love to know how much the contract'sI > for, but then it's Cologne and not Munich and it's none of my business.  >   ! it is neither cologne nor munich.   F yes i am contractor, my boss is permanent and only since 1 year, so he inherited the stuff as it is. G My role is to implement the failover scenario of our app, including the  underlying RDB. D the RDB stuff was implemented long time ago, and the team left sinceG and the handover was not done correctly to my boss. (since he was there @ all worked fine, last time the DB was opened is over a year ago.      MP1>rmu/show system sql$database9 Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node EVAMP1 10-OCT-2006 11:22:47.97 C     - monitor started  6-NOV-2004 11:12:09.67 (uptime 703 00:10:38) A     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;77"   - database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 A     - first opened 11-NOV-2005 14:18:37.78 (elapsed 332 21:04:10) '     * database is opened by an operator )     - current after-image journal file is - TPZH_DAL_DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1559      - AIJ Log Server is active     - 2 active database users (     - database also open on these nodes:	       OP1    this is our prod DB   + database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DMG_DB.RDB;1 A     - first opened 15-MAY-2005 07:08:43.83 (elapsed 513 04:14:04) '     * database is opened by an operator E     - current after-image journal file is DB_DISKA02:[AIJ]AIJ18.AIJ;1 =     - global buffer count is 30000; 20550 global buffers free 1     - maximum global buffer count per user is 100 ,     - global section resides in system space     - AIJ Log Server is active     - 190 active database users     N > Anyway, is there not a UAT or other test environment that this can be tested > in first?  >   @ unfortunately the UAT environment is on a standalone VMS machine    L > I'll assume not. When you do an RMU/DUMP/HEADER on the database(s) do theyN > say number of cluster nodes is "1"? If they do then you'll have to make sureK > the databases are closed on MP1 before trying to open them on OP1. If not K > just open them up on both nodes and fire up the application on both nodes M > (if it's cluster tolerant) and get the application testing people involved.     G on the RMU/DUMP/HEADER there is no reference of cluster nodes, the only  reference is5 in the case of the DDAL database is also open on OP1.    it is the node numbers.      MP1>search ddal_dump.txt node      Maximum node count is 166       - WARNING: Maximum node count is 16 instead of 1 MP1>search dmg_dump.txt node)     Maximum node count is 1    ----> yes.     E but what if MP1 crashes ? is there any danger to open the database on  the other node ?    G our application is designed to be run only on 1 node at a time, but the 4 RDB can be opened also on OP1 as a standby solution.F OK before doing this i must close DB on MP1, then open on MP1 and OP1.  F i have to implement the application failover scenario on the VMS side,G and the testing activities can only be done in a very restricted window  on the week end.  E i have first to implement the theoretical stuff, then schedule a test  plan.    > J > > so as you say, the RMU/open should be done on both MP1 and OP1 as soon > > as they reboot. correct ?  > J > No, I was suggesting that the beauty of VMS clusters and Rdb is that youN > don't have to "fail-over" because, personally, I would open the database andL > the application on all of the nodes all of the time. If MP1 goes down thenH > there would be a pregnant-pause followed by MP1 users having to log inJ > again, but that's it. The cluster took a lickin' but it kept on tickin'.K > With Rdb partitioned lock trees and all the work VMS engineering has been L > doing with the DLM *and* the new interconnect stuff coming along, I see no> > point in restricting a database to one node. (Never have :-)  C this was done by other team, and they did not document why they did  that like this.    > M > The fact that you're using Data Distributor (why?) leeds me to suspect that K > not all disks are accessible cluster wide or there's something dodgy with L > the application. Our DR used to be copying RBFs over to the mirror machineJ > and restoring them and rolloing forward AIJs. Once every couple of yearsM > we'd be forced to run in DR for a week and then switch back with no loss of J > data. They were *never* able to get the Unix systems to achieve the sameH > thing! (They'd just get someone to log on and that would be that. i.e.N > production never shifted) VMS guys were moving to a Disaster Tolerant set up > when I left.  4 do you mean by data distributor the DDAL$TR_DB.RDB ?  - all the DSAn disks are accessible clustewide.    > F > My *guess* is everything will be ok except for DNS cache flushes andN > hard-coded SQL/Services server names. (But then, if I was getting paid to do > it, I'd make sure :-)   E the application specific sqlservices are setup identically on MP1 and  OP1   F DNS cache switch needs also be checked with the downstram applications3 which connects to our RDB, but thats another story.      regards,   Nazim Manser   >  > Regards Richard Maher  > . > "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> wrote in message? > news:1162981579.381769.299700@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...  > >  > > Richard Maher schrieb: > >  > > > Hi Nazim,  > > > G > > > If this system runs anything other "Mom and Dad's corner Deli VAT 	 > return" H > > > then I suspect that you (or the company you support) are in in big
 > trouble!N > > > Get yourself a professional DBA and pay them what they ask to do the jobM > > > properly. The questions turning up here (and more so in the ITRC) about  > Rdb L > > > are truly frightening. I wish I could find out who these companies are > and G > > > turn up to their next risk-assessment or shareholders meeting :-(  > > B > > that is why i was assigned the task to ensure correct failover
 > > strategy.  > >  > > > L > > > Anyway no one can answer your question directly unless they know a bit > moreK > > > about MP and OP. I suggest "yes" but if you've never tried a failover  > beforeM > > > then what are the extra machines there for. The fact that you appear to  > beN > > > running Data Distributor raises an eyebrow, but my advice is to open theN > > > database on *all* nodes and use them *all* *all* of the time in possibly > a % > > > wide-are cluster configuration.  > > >  > > = > > MP1 and OP1 are on 2 sites but share the samefile system.  > > to be precise  > > 3 > > the file layout of the RDB stuff is as follows:  > > 4 > > root file location :      dsa618:[db_disk001.db]/ > > RDA & SNP files:     dsa618:[db_disk001.db] 9 > >                                dsa618:[db_disk002.db] 9 > >                                dsa618:[db_disk003.db] 7 > > AIJ files:                   dsa616:[db_diskA01.db] 9 > >                                dsa616:[db_diskA02.db] 0 > > RUJ files                  dsa617:[rdms$ruj] > >  > >  > > MP1>sh dev dsa618  > > I > > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free 
 > > Trans Mnt J > >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks
 > > Count Cnt J > > DSA618:                 Mounted              0  DMG_DB        32582436 > > 7696   4D > > $1$DGA230:    (OP2)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA618:)D > > $1$DGA430:    (MP1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA618:) > > MP1>sh dev dsa621  > > I > > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free 
 > > Trans Mnt J > >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks
 > > Count Cnt J > > DSA621:                 Mounted              0  DMG_DB2       12936924 > >    5   4D > > $1$DGA214:    (OP2)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA621:)D > > $1$DGA414:    (MP1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA621:) > > MP1>sh dev dsa616  > > I > > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free 
 > > Trans Mnt J > >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks
 > > Count Cnt J > > DSA616:                 Mounted              0  DMG_AIJ        8673228 > >  100   4D > > $1$DGA210:    (OP2)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA616:)D > > $1$DGA410:    (MP1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA616:) > > MP1>sh dev dsa617  > > I > > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free 
 > > Trans Mnt J > >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks
 > > Count Cnt J > > DSA617:                 Mounted              0  DMG_RUJ       17359776 > >  165   4D > > $1$DGA211:    (OP2)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA617:)D > > $1$DGA411:    (MP1)  ShadowSetMember      0  (member of DSA617:) > >  > > 6 > > usually a RMU/open on that DB is done only on MP1.D > > i would like to know what happens, when in case of failover (MP1) > > crashes) i do a RMU/open on OP1 node.  > > E > > as it is a mission critical production DB, i want to be sure 100% & > > before updating our documentation. > > J > > so as you say, the RMU/open should be done on both MP1 and OP1 as soon > > as they reboot. correct ?  > > @ > > i an new (2 months) and i inherited, the task to support the( > > application and its underklying RDB. > >  > > regards, > >  > > Nazim Manser > > M > > > Rdb engineering hates clusters 'cos Norm doesn't get to use his beloved . > > > Row-Ca$h, but don't let that bother you. > > >  > > > Regards Richard Maher  > > > 2 > > > "Nazim" <nmanser@progis.de> wrote in messageC > > > news:1162918356.022076.305610@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...  > > > > Hi guys, > > > > M > > > > we are running RDB (Oracle Rdb V7.0-61), SQLSERVICES (v7.1-59) on a 5   > > > > node cluster on 2 sites. > > > > OpenVMS V7.3 > > > >  > > > >  > > > > site 1:  > > > > ) > > > > MP1  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS0.] ) > > > > MP2  sys$sysroot = DSA200:[SYS1.]  > > > >  > > > > site 2:  > > > > ) > > > > OP1  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS0.] ) > > > > OP2  sys$sysroot = DSA100:[SYS1.] ( > > > > QRM sys$sysroot = DSA300:[SYS0.] > > > > B > > > > our application runs on node MP1 and uses the following DB- > > > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB  > > > > : > > > > but for failover scenario we need to do a RMU/OPENN > > > > DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB on node OP1, are there any problems doing > > > > this ? > > > > K > > > > RDB is started on nodes MP1 and OP1 but in normal operations the DB H > > > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB is opened only on node MP1 > > > >  > > > > thanks for your answers  > > > >  > > > > N.Manser > > > >  > > > >  > > > > " > > > > SYSMAN> do rmu/show system7 > > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node QRM N > > > > %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling > > > >  \RMU\7 > > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP2 6 > > > > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRV" > > > > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file. > DSA100:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8A > > > > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 7 > > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node OP1 > > > > > Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node OP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:14.74K > > > >     - monitor started  8-APR-2006 22:29:10.31 (uptime 212 19:11:04) J > > > >     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;107"5 > > > > database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 I > > > >     - first opened  8-APR-2006 22:30:00.82 (elapsed 212 19:10:13) 1 > > > >     - current after-image journal file is , > > > > DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1575& > > > >     - AIJ Log Server is active% > > > >     - 2 active database users 0 > > > >     - database also open on these nodes: > > > >       MP1 7 > > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP2 6 > > > > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image RDMPRV" > > > > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file. > DSA200:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]RDMPRV.EXE;8A > > > > -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed 7 > > > > %SYSMAN-I-OUTPUT, command execution on node MP1 > > > > > Oracle Rdb V7.0-61 on node MP1  7-NOV-2006 17:40:13.59I > > > >     - monitor started  2-NOV-2006 07:36:25.92 (uptime 5 10:03:47) I > > > >     - monitor log filename is "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]RDMMON.LOG;79" / > > > > database DSA618:[DB_DISK001.DB]DB.RDB;1 G > > > >     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 08:32:01.47 (elapsed 5 09:08:12) / > > > >     * database is opened by an operator M > > > >     - current after-image journal file is DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]AIJ25.AIJ;1 E > > > >     - global buffer count is 30000; 22250 global buffers free 9 > > > >     - maximum global buffer count per user is 100 4 > > > >     - global section resides in system space& > > > >     - AIJ Log Server is active' > > > >     - 156 active database users 5 > > > > database DSA0:[DDAL.DATABASE]DDAL$TR_DB.RDB;1 G > > > >     - first opened  2-NOV-2006 07:37:17.02 (elapsed 5 10:02:56) 1 > > > >     - current after-image journal file is , > > > > DB_DISKA01:[AIJ]DDAL_AIJ001.AIJ;1578& > > > >     - AIJ Log Server is active% > > > >     - 2 active database users 0 > > > >     - database also open on these nodes: > > > >       OP1  > > > >  > >    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 09:32:07 +0100 / From: huber@NIRWANA-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)  Subject: Re: MAIL + Message-ID: <J1XwcXqEE0SE@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   h In article <1162943747.600263.258250@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, "ANDY" <J_WARDLOW@YAHOO.COM> writes:E > Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user 0 > with a file that will show up as an attachment  E In addition there are some command-files doing attachments in one go. 6 Search for MIME or  SENDMAIL on http://dcl.openvms.com  (  My own commandfile, using VMS MIME, is ;    http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/util_root/com/send_attach.com       --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 05:39:48 -0800 * From: "Oswald" <Oswald.Knoppers@gmail.com> Subject: Re: MAIL B Message-ID: <1162993188.783179.78370@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  
 ANDY schreef:   E > Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user 0 > with a file that will show up as an attachment  G You can also use the mail symbiont (MAILSYM). You can find the symbiont  on the freeware CD.    Regards,   Oswald   ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:10:51 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: MAIL , Message-ID: <eisohb$1fc$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>  ] In article <J1XwcXqEE0SE@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>, huber@NIRWANA-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber) writes: i >In article <1162943747.600263.258250@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, "ANDY" <J_WARDLOW@YAHOO.COM> writes: F >> Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user1 >> with a file that will show up as an attachment  > F >In addition there are some command-files doing attachments in one go.7 >Search for MIME or  SENDMAIL on http://dcl.openvms.com  > ) > My own commandfile, using VMS MIME, is  < >   http://wwwvms.mppmu.mpg.de/util_root/com/send_attach.com > = And of course there is PMDF MAIL which is a clone of VMS MAIL % but can handle MIME and attachments.    L PMDF MAIL is part of PMDF and is tied into the PMDF MTA. I've often wonderedL how tight the integration is. If process could separate it out from the PMDFN MTA and sell it as a separate product at a reasonable price ie a lot less thanN the price for PMDF I'm sure a number of commercial companies running VMS mightN be interested. Hell maybe they could even do a deal with HP and get it shipped, as part of VMS and replace the old VMS Mail.M (But possibly the deal with SUN which allows Process to develop and sell PMDF  precludes such a move).     
 David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University      >  >-- A >   Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:47:48 -0500 8 From: Stephen Hoffman <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org> Subject: Re: MAIL ) Message-ID: <eisqmi$2ss9$1@pyrite.mv.net>    ANDY wrote: E > Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user 0 > with a file that will show up as an attachment  G    Others have mentioned the MIME command (a DCL command which invokes  H the MIME utility), which can be used to construct the MIME-related data G structures for you.  Enough structure that the clients will be able to   decode the messages.  F    It is these MIME data structures that are what allow mail tools to B find and process the text and HTML text for the message, the file E attachments, and various other constructions that are possible.  The  5 OpenVMS MAIL utility itself has no handling for MIME.   H    For more details on the MIME utility, and on MIME and MIME encoding, F see the MIME utility help file and/or the OpenVMS FAQ and/or the MIME E RFC (RFC 2045 and related RFCs).  This all depending on the level of  * interest and the level of detail required.  G    The other approach is to use POP or IMAP and SMTP and a mail client  E other than the command-line OpenVMS MAIL utility -- the Mozilla mail  F client on OpenVMS, for instance, or any of various other mail clients H around for various platforms including various mail clients for OpenVMS D itself -- can be used to construct the MIME message and to send and I receive MIME-encoded mail via the OpenVMS SMTP server.  There are a list  F of (some of) the mail clients available for OpenVMS in the FAQ.  PINE $ comes to mind, and there are others.  H   Yes, the addition of MIME integration into MAIL or the addition of an F alternative mail client within OpenVMS would be desirable, and that's 5 fodder for an enhancement request made to HP OpenVMS.    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 10:13:31 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)  Subject: Re: MAIL 3 Message-ID: <mWZfgjOQxPDX@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <1162943747.600263.258250@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, "ANDY" <J_WARDLOW@YAHOO.COM> writes:E > Is there any way to send a email from vms to an outlookexpress user 0 > with a file that will show up as an attachment  B    If a POP server is emabled on your VMS system you can use a webC    browser's email tool on that system or some other system to send     email with attachments.  D    If you need a command line utility, there is a MIME utility whichA    you can use to build email with attachmnets, and then send the     resulting file.        ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 05:47:44 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com ' Subject: Re: Mark Daniel where are you? B Message-ID: <1162993664.440214.232320@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>  B I am not running soymail exe but using your substituted apache cgi scriptG under purveyor ... I need this to run encrypted as a cgi under purveyor : with dll authentication using a /switch to activate it ...     Mark Daniel wrote: > bob@instantwhip.com wrote:H > > any ideas?  I even tried like I said your work around to get this to > > run cgi using  > > J > > and yes I read your work around in the documentation and tried this in > > soymail.conf > >  > >  > > [if-CGI-user]  > > [private-access] > > [if-end] >  > The example configuration at > a > http://wasd.vsm.com.au/ht_root/src/soymail/doc/soymail_admin.html#3.5.[private-request]|outline  > $ > specifies 'remote_user' not 'user' >  >    [if-CGI-remote_user]  >    [private-request]
 >    [end-if]  > 7 > The alternative is to specify a URL that ends in '/~'  >  >    /scripts/soymail.exe/~  >  > as given as an example in  > X > http://wasd.vsm.com.au/ht_root/src/soymail/doc/soymail_admin.html#2.3.Purveyor|outline >  >  > > [private-access] > > user/Default/USER  > >  > > H > > and I still get the insufficient priviledge ... here is the HTML ...	 > > HELP!  > >  > > 
 > > <HTML>
 > > <HEAD>H > > <META NAME="generator" CONTENT="SOYMAIL AXP-1.2.2, CGILIB AXP-1.8.8, > > 24-OCT-2006 16:06:06.85"> D > > <META NAME="environment" CONTENT="Purveyor Encrypt Domestic/v2.1
 > > OpenVMS"> C > > <META NAME="language" CONTENT="English mark.dan...@vsm.com.au"> 0 > > <TITLE>soyMAIL @ www.marblecliff.com</TITLE> > > </HEAD> 
 > > <BODY>F > > <B>Fatal soyMAIL Error:</B>&nbsp; Insufficient privilege or object > > protection violation. = > > <!-- ***** REPORTING MODULE:LINE IS REQUEST:741 ***** -->  > > </BODY>  > > </HTML>  > >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:30:34 +1030 * From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@vsm.com.au>' Subject: Re: Mark Daniel where are you? 0 Message-ID: <12l3sabmh4n12b8@corp.supernews.com>   bob@instantwhip.com wrote:D > I am not running soymail exe but using your substituted apache cgi > scriptI > under purveyor ... I need this to run encrypted as a cgi under purveyor < > with dll authentication using a /switch to activate it ...  D That's incidental Bob.  We know it's being activated because you're   getting a response from soyMAIL.   > Mark Daniel wrote: >  >>bob@instantwhip.com wrote: >>G >>>any ideas?  I even tried like I said your work around to get this to  >>>run cgi using >>> I >>>and yes I read your work around in the documentation and tried this in  >>>soymail.conf  >>>  >>>  >>>[if-CGI-user] >>>[private-access]  >>>[if-end]  >> >>The example configuration at >>a >>http://wasd.vsm.com.au/ht_root/src/soymail/doc/soymail_admin.html#3.5.[private-request]|outline  >>$ >>specifies 'remote_user' not 'user' >> >>   [if-CGI-remote_user]  >>   [private-request]
 >>   [end-if]  >>7 >>The alternative is to specify a URL that ends in '/~'  >> >>   /scripts/soymail.exe/~  >> >>as given as an example in  >>X >>http://wasd.vsm.com.au/ht_root/src/soymail/doc/soymail_admin.html#2.3.Purveyor|outline >> >> >> >>>[private-access]  >>>user/Default/USER >>>  >>> G >>>and I still get the insufficient priviledge ... here is the HTML ...  >>>HELP! >>>  >>> 	 >>><HTML> 	 >>><HEAD> G >>><META NAME="generator" CONTENT="SOYMAIL AXP-1.2.2, CGILIB AXP-1.8.8,  >>>24-OCT-2006 16:06:06.85">C >>><META NAME="environment" CONTENT="Purveyor Encrypt Domestic/v2.1  >>>OpenVMS">B >>><META NAME="language" CONTENT="English mark.dan...@vsm.com.au">/ >>><TITLE>soyMAIL @ www.marblecliff.com</TITLE> 
 >>></HEAD>	 >>><BODY> E >>><B>Fatal soyMAIL Error:</B>&nbsp; Insufficient privilege or object  >>>protection violation.< >>><!-- ***** REPORTING MODULE:LINE IS REQUEST:741 ***** --> >>></BODY>  
 >>></HTML> >>>  >    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 07:53:01 -0800 # From: "Bobby" <colemanr7@yahoo.com> / Subject: Re: OpenVMS Vax 6.2 and pathworks 5.0B C Message-ID: <1163001181.123778.306470@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   B I recently had to move an old PCFS 4.x system to AdvancedServer onB Alpha.  During the process I found the followng links to the older* Pathworks product.  They may be helpful...  I http://www.sysworks.com.au/disk$cddoc04sep11/decw$book/d33vaa70.decw$book   O http://groups.google.com/group/comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc/msg/3086a29a56a00131   @ Generally, you can make changes for the 4.x server from the menu system.   5    $ admin/pcsa menu (if my memory is half way right. 2                         If not... try $admin help)  @ I also used Pathworks 6.x years ago and system configuration wasG performed using a procedure file... the name of which escapes me... but 3 it would be something like @sys$update:PWRK$CONFIG.    Bobby    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 10:26:28 -0800  From: twnews@kittles.com/ Subject: Re: OpenVMS Vax 6.2 and pathworks 5.0B B Message-ID: <1163010388.192287.322290@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>  
 nst wrote:1 > Are there any PCSA experts reading comp.os.vms?  > M > We moved three Vaxes and one Alpha onto a virtual vax. Everything went fine M > except  when connecting Pathworks DOS [(LMDOS) machine is a 386 20MhzCompaq , > PC] we see only the top level directories. > M > With @sys$manager:pwrk$lmshare.com I added some shares and these shares are ) > only accessable at one directory level. N > If we connect to a disk device like Disk3$=$1$dua3: we see no files. When weN > do a cd xxxx on the pc we see suddenly the contens of a top level directory. > M > with NET SHARE  I see no difference between old shares and new shares which D > I have generated. On some old shares we can access the whole tree.  > What the hell is causing this.  F I have used PW extensively since it was introduced, however I have not; used that vintage in many years so I might misremember what C features/capabilities that version has.  With that said, I would be E interested to see the output of a "sho dev d" and an "admin sho share E /ful sharename" where sharename is the name of one of the misbehaving F shares.  Some (or perhaps all) versions of PW require that you use theF actual device names and not the label or another logical when definingF the share.  As someone else suggested, it could be a permissions issueC on the share or on the root directory of the share.  This would not B explain (to me) all of your symptoms, but it could be the problem.   Thomas Wirt  Operations Manager Kittle's Home Furnishings    > I > Little bit of background; we moved all data from an Alpha server with a J > Mylex card to a virtual Vax, also the files from two Vaxstations and offL > course the files from a Vax 4000. We changed the DRA device to DUA devices; > and moved some of the SCSI devices to DKA and some to DUA  >  <snip> >  > From Bavaria > 	 > Norbert    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 10:26:00 -0800 ( From: "bclaremont" <msi.bruce@gmail.com>/ Subject: Re: OpenVMS Vax 6.2 and pathworks 5.0B B Message-ID: <1163010360.779797.161710@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>  * Which VAX emulation product are you using?   Bruce Claremont  www.MigrationSpecialties.com OpenVMS Stealth Marketing Squad    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:03:57 -0500 8 From: Stephen Hoffman <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org>Y Subject: Re: Portability (was: Re: An increasingly-rare island of corporate inspiration)  ) Message-ID: <eit66b$30cv$1@pyrite.mv.net>    etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote: 7 > ...HP have put lots of effort into making VMS be able I > to take Unix code and compile/link/run on VMS.  Interesting that nobody F > has thought of adding the functionality to a Unix to make it compile > link and run VMS code...  F    OpenVMS has a long history of trying to allow and to ease in-bound F ports.  This same is an obvious goal for most any commercial software C platform offering.  Each software provider -- whether a commercial  G offering or an open-source package -- also seeks to add value and APIs  I and features that make the platform a good choice, though these same new  H features and additions and benefits can also effectively make out-bound  ports more difficult.   I    As for out-bound ports of OpenVMS applications, there are examples of  C efforts seeking to allow OpenVMS applications to operate on Linux,  F including the FreeVMS project.  There have also been various hardware C emulators (SIMH, CHARON-*), and there are tools such as those from  C Sector7 and Accelr8.  (I don't immediately recall what happened to  4 Accelr8 and its OpenVMS software portfolio, though.)  B    Like the earlier discussions around a portable or open-sourced D version of OpenVMS and here assuming coverage of a moderately-broad G subset of the OpenVMS APIs and tools, creating such a layer for a Unix  & or a Linux platform is a large effort.  G    By the time you get rolling with an out-bound application port from  H OpenVMS to another platform, you end up with some tools that help speed I the port, and a sizable chunk of custom coding around the areas that are  I outside the available tools and libraries.  (A parallel to this can crop  H up even with the platform emulators, too, where you have an application D that needs the XYZ I/O controller, and that XYZ controller requires F custom extensions.)  Or you move to the more portable interfaces (eg: I Ruby, C/C++, perl, Java, PHP, [your favorite here], etc), and toward the  I compartmenting of the application code that calls into the OpenVMS APIs.  I   Or you dig around, and either find or create an equivalent, and export  F your application data and/or your (business) processes into something H that can be imported into the target environment, or you dig around and E find or build something that allows you to bridge more directly with   another environment.  G    The underlying operating system is becoming rather less interesting  B as a general rule (save for those specific cases where you have a I critical application specifically tied to a particular platform) as most  C existing and new work is moving toward portability.  And there are  6 various ways to deal with these critical applications.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 14:26:58 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon), Subject: Re: Tool to convert BMP image to PS/ Message-ID: <4re7piFqaeqtU1@mid.individual.net>   B In article <1162994911.103545.326640@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,! 	apogeusistemas@gmail.com writes: < > Do you know any tool to convert a bmp image to postcript ?H > I need convert a .bmp logo to postscript, to print in my VMS system...  F Probably doesn't do you a lot of good, but all I have to do in FreeBSDG is click on the file, select "print" and choose "Print to a file (PS)". C I can do the same thing for PDF's.  I imagine some version of Linux E offers the same functionality, but you mentioned BMP files and VMS so 3 I assume you have nothing but MS and VMS available,    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:57:01 -0500 8 From: Stephen Hoffman <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org>, Subject: Re: Tool to convert BMP image to PS) Message-ID: <eisr7r$2t1o$1@pyrite.mv.net>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:D > In article <1162994911.103545.326640@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,# > 	apogeusistemas@gmail.com writes: = >> Do you know any tool to convert a bmp image to postcript ? I >> I need convert a .bmp logo to postscript, to print in my VMS system...  > H > Probably doesn't do you a lot of good, but all I have to do in FreeBSDI > is click on the file, select "print" and choose "Print to a file (PS)". E > I can do the same thing for PDF's.  I imagine some version of Linux G > offers the same functionality, but you mentioned BMP files and VMS so 5 > I assume you have nothing but MS and VMS available,   I    Imagemagick and its fork GraphicsMagick contain a library of graphics  D file format converters, and there are ports of the ImageMagick tool B around for OpenVMS, and there may well be ports of GraphicsMagick.  D    I don't know off-hand if this converter pair exists, but it's an I option and an avenue I'd investigate.  Based on what I see, it does look  $ like you can perform the conversion.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 16:26:50 +0100 / From: huber@NIRWANA-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber) , Subject: Re: Tool to convert BMP image to PS+ Message-ID: <NmRqCg2kdmEa@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   c In article <1162994911.103545.326640@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, apogeusistemas@gmail.com writes: < > Do you know any tool to convert a bmp image to postcript ?H > I need convert a .bmp logo to postscript, to print in my VMS system...  >  If You happen to have the XV program (from the VMS freeware):   $ XV your.bmp F  In the XV control panel then choose "Save", and select "Postscript" .    --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2006 08:15:43 -0800  From: davidc@montagar.com , Subject: Re: Tool to convert BMP image to PSA Message-ID: <1163002543.584513.6260@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Stephen Hoffman wrote:E >    I don't know off-hand if this converter pair exists, but it's an J > option and an avenue I'd investigate.  Based on what I see, it does look& > like you can perform the conversion.  D The NetPBM tools can do it using two different programs - bmptopnm | pnmtops   G First convert the BMP to a portable pix map, then the PPM to a PS file.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:27:23 +08003 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> 5 Subject: Re: VMS V8.3 Sysgen> DEVICE_NAMING parameter 1 Message-ID: <eisi7p$22t$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi Rob,   H > I think that you have it backward; the observed behaviour is expected, given K > your setting for DEVICE_NAMING.  Also note that the relevant bit is bit 2 K > (a mask value of 4).  As shown below, the default (0 value) setting is to  > allow large unit numbers.   L I was about to jump up and down and yell about how un-VMS it was to make theG new/changed behaviour the "default". "VMS is all about stability across G versions!" I said. "VMS is all about not breaking something if even one I customer is relying on it!" I said. Then I went looking for an example to E back me up and search for subprocess-naming, and knock me down if the H "default" wasn't the random version :-( "Don't stop there" I said. Let'sK look at VCC and XFC (I don't think I have to remind *anyone* here about the D 18 month long debacle(s) and the rush to "Just turn the bloody thingA off!!!") and I was gob-smacked again to find "on" is the default.   J > In the future, please try to work the word "bollocks" into your postings :-)   H So all that's left to say is "It was another perfect summer's day in theK valley; the tranquillity broken only by the unmistakeable ring of bollocks, 0 peeling from the bell tower of chez Maher. . .".   Cheers Richard Maher  F PS. Twenty years ago I wrote code for City of Stirling that let GOLD-1F lib$attach from the Property system to the dog-registration system viaH Proc_Name_1; I'm gutted :-( I'm sure this was the straw that broke VMS's back at COS :-)   ; "Rob Brooks" <brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam> wrote in message & news:cqvr6vygB62p@cuebid.zko.hp.com...7 > "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:  > K > > Saw what could be intersting behaviour the other day. On an 8.3 machine  withJ > > the Device_Naming parameter set to the default zero, there were oodles ofH > > _TNA: device with 5 digit names that started annoying a whole lot of code$ > > that expected a maximum of 9999. > > G > > To me, it looks like a bug 'cos bit 1 is not set so the "new" rules  shouldK > > not come into affect but, going forward, would setting Device_Naming to  4 or > > 5 solve the problem? > H > I think that you have it backward; the observed behaviour is expected, given K > your setting for DEVICE_NAMING.  Also note that the relevant bit is bit 2 K > (a mask value of 4).  As shown below, the default (0 value) setting is to  > allow large unit numbers.  > J > In the future, please try to work the word "bollocks" into your postings :-)  >  > 
 > $ mc sysgen   > SYSGEN>  HELP SYS_P DEVICE_NAM >  > Sys_Parameters >  >   DEVICE_NAMING  > G >        (Alpha and I64) DEVICE_NAMING is a bit mask indicating whether G >        port allocation classes are used in forming SCSI device names.  > ) >        Following is the bit definition:  >  >        Bit   Definition  > ' >        0     If 1, enable new naming.  > = >        1     Must be 0. This bit is reserved for use by HP.  > @ >        2     If 1, cloned device unit numbers wrap after 9999. >  >  > --   > J > Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:30:27 -0500 8 From: Stephen Hoffman <Hoff@HoffmanLabs-RemoveThis-.Org>5 Subject: Re: VMS V8.3 Sysgen> DEVICE_NAMING parameter ) Message-ID: <eispm0$2shj$1@pyrite.mv.net>    Richard Maher wrote:  N > Saw what could be intersting behaviour the other day. On an 8.3 machine withK > the Device_Naming parameter set to the default zero, there were oodles of K > _TNA: device with 5 digit names that started annoying a whole lot of code " > that expected a maximum of 9999. > L > To me, it looks like a bug 'cos bit 1 is not set so the "new" rules shouldN > not come into affect but, going forward, would setting Device_Naming to 4 or > 5 solve the problem?  H    To disable the unit number extensions on V7.3-2 and later, set bit 2 H in the DEVICE_NAMING system parameter bit mask.  The feature is enabled F by default.  By default, the device unit number field no longer wraps E after unit 9999 when processing newly-cloned UCBs; devices with unit  8 numbers 10000 through 32767 become available by default.  G    Bit 0 manages the allocation class mechanisms, and specifically the  H port allocation class mechanisms.  (I will tweak the section in the FAQ G on this PAC mechanism for the next update, as there are now other bits  " that can be lit in the parameter.)  B    Discussions around upward-compatibility and changes to default E behaviours are another matter.  There are almost always arguments in  H either direction around compatibility and enhancement, and in this case ! HP altered the default behaviour.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:48:03 +0100 / From: Paul Sture <paul.sture.nospam@hispeed.ch>  Subject: Re: WASD v9.2 ReleaseJ Message-ID: <paul.sture.nospam-173405.14480308112006@mac.sture.homeip.net>  1 In article <eisk7b$4s0$1@news-02.connect.com.au>, 5  "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote:   J > Has he, the Australian Defense Dept, and by extrapolation the AustralianJ > Taxpayer (including Moi), been funding your magnum opus all these years?   LOL.  G You might like to know that another magnum opus currently the topic of  D conversation here in c.o.v. was initially funded by the Oz Taxpayer.  1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba_%28software%29   C "Samba was originally developed for Unix by Andrew Tridgell at the  F Australian National University, originally by reverse-engineering the G protocol used by DEC PATHWORKS server software using a packet sniffer.  E Tridgell later discovered that the protocol was largely identical to  E that used by other network server systems, including Microsoft's LAN  ? Manager software, and he decided to focus on Microsoft network   compatibility after that."  ) Strange how things have reversed there...   F I believe Google is chipping in for Samba's development at the moment.  I Meanwhile back in Europe... www.samba.org has been reorganised to run on  ) mirrors, and the German one I picked says   A "mirrored by bnw-natur Haarausfall Frauen Mnner Haarwuchsmittel"   ; Kind of appropriate for this new IT world, don't you think?    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:28:36 +1030 * From: Mark Daniel <mark.daniel@vsm.com.au>E Subject: Re: WASD v9.2 Release [now overly long and probably tedious] 0 Message-ID: <12l3s6md6366s06@corp.supernews.com>   Hello Richard.   Richard Maher wrote:
 > Hi Mark, > J > I've had someone nagging me about the different web servers available on+ > VMS, so your post was very timely for me.  > N > I have to say that the first thing that struck me was the amount of time andM > effort that has gone into this! How the hell have you been able to allocate L > the substantial time and, more importantly, funds required to support thisC > seemingly boundless altruism? Is this your full-time job? Are you  > independently wealthy?  F Sadly no, to both of the latter questions.  As a matter of fact we no @ longer develop on a VMS platform at all.  Nor any longer am I a F professional software developer (in the sense of making a living from I coding).  The former questions are as easily answered.  I'm not one much  I given to television and often sleep patchily for various reasons (as the  G hour of this reply might suggest).  That accounts for the time.  How I  E spend that spare time is my business alone.  The bottom-line is that  C there that there is no bottom-line.  But this is a sort-of forward   reference, see more below.  1 > But then I saw this in one of your web pages: -  > [ H > The Division recognises that although having no commercial value, thisK > software can never-the-less be valuable to other sites because of its low M > cost (usually media only) and in that it may address niche requirements not K > viable for commercial vendors. It should be emphasized that this is not a K > commercial-grade package, has not been designed with that in mind, should L > not be recognised as such, nor is it in any way endorsed by High Frequency" > Radar Divison or its Management. > F >   * Currently  Intelligence, Surveillance & Reconnaissance Division,/ > less recently  Surveillance Systems Division, ? > and now even more remotely   Wide Area Surveillance Division.  > # > Dr. Malcolm G. Golley CHFRD, 1996  > ] 3 > So who is big Mal and who gave him a cheque book?   B Dr Golley is a now-retired Chief of Division.  That position is a G one/two-star equivalent (I forget at this late hour).  I guess because  G this is a quotation from the release he signed (a copy of which I have  D in my security cabinet), that in his judgement, the software had no F commercial value.  The number of vendors currently selling Web server D packages (probably on any platform but in context certainly) on VMS 1 perhaps reflects the aptitude of this assessment.    The preceding sentence states:  F    As High Frequency Radar Division currently employs some useful (andC    in that sense valuable) freeware and public-domain software, its G    management has consented, in the spirit of wishing to "pay its dues" C    and encourage this environment, to make some of its own, locally G    implemented hypertext services software available to the broader VMS 
    community.   G So I think it's fair to say he considered it quid pro quo for software  : we were using at the time that had been similarly sourced.  G I think it's also fair to say the code base he open-sourced was a pale  G reflection of what is in the package today.  Anyone who has been using  C it for some years will attest to it's steadily increasing breadth,  $ sophistication and refinement (IMO).  J > Has he, the Australian Defense Dept, and by extrapolation the AustralianJ > Taxpayer (including Moi), been funding your magnum opus all these years?  6 Keep reading Richard, just the next paragraph for now:  H    Much of the development of WASD during the first couple of years tookH    place using Divisional resources. Since it's release as freeware veryF    much more has taken place during my own time. I would like to thank>    my long-suffering "widow" Robyn, without whose patience andG    resignation the continued development of WASD would not be possible. <    Thanks sweetheart, for understanding I need a "fix" every    now-and-then, Mark.  B To restate; first two years (say 1994-1996) done within Divsional G auspices (not full-time, see below), last ten years (say 1997-2006) in  # my own time (not full-time either).   E Early on, this comprised Saturdays in at the office (when my nursing  I spouse had shifts on those days), dial-up to our external VAXserver 3100  D (long-since retired), and over the past seven years on a VAXstation C 4000, then an AlphaStation 255 and now a PWS500, all having sat or  C sitting on my study desk at home.  I have also had VSM's Alpha and  A Itanium systems at my disposal and a now a Germany-based VAX for  % building that platform's object kits.   D I've always declared that I didn't wish to have explained to me the - psychology of being an open-source author :-)    Now, just a little more from  9 http://192.168.1.3/ht_root/doc/htd/htd_0100.html Richard:   A    The primary impetus for an internal Web environment was a 1993 F    decision by Wide Area Surveillance Division (WASD) management (thenF    High Frequency Radar Division, HFRD) to make as much information asG    possible, both administrative and research, available online (to use I    the current term ... an intranet). Early experimentation with a Gopher A    implementation soon made way for the obvious advantages of the     emerging Web technology.    Also:   F    Reasons for developing a local HTTP server were few but compelling:  >      * The WASD (then HFRD) Web implementation began mid-1994.  D      * It was prefered to support the hypertext environment on a VMSE        platform. At the time this the most widely used and accessable         environment within WASD.   I      * At that time servers (and even at that time there were quite a few A        variations) were largely Unix based, although it was being G        supported (to a greater or lesses extent) across a wide range of G        platforms. Ports to VMS, if they existed, were often in progress G        or half-baked, employing Unixisms that don't translate elegantly         to the VMS environment.  F      * The VMS version of the CERN server (3.0-6) was evaluated during        mid-1994:  F          o It was (still is) not multi-threaded under VMS (i.e. cannotI            support concurrent clients). For example, a lengthy search may 8            delay other clients for unacceptable periods.  @          o Its performance was good with document transfers, but-            became poor when running a script.   I          o It is acknowleged in the release notes that it cannot handle a E            client cancelling a data transfer (a not-uncommon action). -            This was confirmed experimentally.   H      * An early version of the OSU (DECthreads) server was evaluated viaH        documentation mid-1994. The author considered that the DECthreads@        of the time to have it's limitations (including frequent,A        show-stopping bugs) and OSU had a number of implementation 4        idiosyncracies (e.g. DECnet based scripting).      ...  E So, I think it can be argued there were technical justifications for  D suggesting we develop our own Web server basics.  Remember this was F 1993, the cusp of the explosive growth of both Web technology and the G Internet, and available technologies were relatively unsophisticated -  H especially on VMS.  My whole job was certainly not just managing the 72 F node cluster we then had (with one other staff - isn't VMS remarkably G economical),  software development was also part of my duty statement.  + It was also a great way to learn about VMS.   N > Even if it's true, I place no value judgement on how well the money has beenF > spent (and you may rightly argue that helicopters wich can't fly andM > rescuing seemingly suicidal English yachtsmen, are the greater follies) but L > I am struggling to see the synergy bewteen the remit or duty statement forE > the "Wide Area Surveillance Division" and a VMS-centric Web Server.  > L > Look, I'm not trying to have a go at ya. It's just that there are a few of  I Then I respectfully suggest you need to reassess the style of your prose  F Richard.  Inquiries should be neutral in tone.  This one is not.  And I while it might be argued your missives have great entertainment value (I  G have heard it so described only this week) they are also laced with an  G acerbic and disingenuous flavour that could easily put people off-side  $ if you are not intending to do that.  N > us other artisans out there who have taken to drinking too much, hacking ourI > ears off, and slowly decending into madness! Clearly, this IT world was , > never meant for one as beautiful as me :-) > I > So how do you sign-up for this patronage? Is it a new CES (Centrelink?) > > program? I've got some great ideas: - WASD-SQL (Catchy eh?),J > WASD-JDBC_Drivers? How 'bout this - WASDilla! you've had the server, nowK > embrace the browser! Maybe we're aiming a little low? WASD-Linux? I'm not H > trying to take flack jackets off the troops or anything; just 10 years > should do it.   ( I have nothing to do with such materiel.  H > Anyway, once I re-register to vote (haven't I enjoyed not having to doG > that!) I'll find out who my Federal member is and get him to put in a 2 > good word for me. Who should he ask to speak to?  G I do not know which current Australian Government procurement programs  G are currently hosted, or intended to be hosted on VMS platforms, so my  I suggestion would be to get his electoral office staff to start with that  @ issue.  From there the relevant Program Office easily should be ? identified and each will have contact detail readily available.    > Cheers Richard Maher > D > PS. Look at how the (ex)Minister fro Aboriginal Affairs spends his5 > stationery money and all guilt will be expunged :-)    'guilt'? - subtext indicator.   J > PPS. Maybe Oz needs another car manafacturer and teh Defense Dept can doM > that? There must be heaps of industries the government can "compete" in all @ > bank-rolled by the tax-payer! I'd never been to Russia before.  D Was tried for years in the UK and here.  Not a uniformly successful F model.  Some things arguably have a place in public interest; health, G education, aged-care, major infrastructure projects, defence, resource  1 management, civil police, prison management, etc.   K > PPPS. Go on, tell me you're charging huge support fees or at least HP has - > put it's hand in it's pocket? Or something?   F I don't mind declaring my pecuniary interests.  So far VSM has hosted B the WASD site almost since it's initial availability as freeware. D That's got to be worth quids.  I've had four days consulting with a H major Australian corporation (you can work out the approximate monetary D value of that).  A trip to the 2006 Technical Bootcamp funded by HP I (attendance fees), VSM (airfares) and my Division (accomodation).  There  I are two organisations who have annual support arrangements with me (both  L relatively recently).  From a guesstimate previously published in this forum  B    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/24087ae60926a1e0  ? that would probably about cover my extra home electricty costs  0 associated with WASD development over the years.  H I think my spouse insightfully and succinctly summed it up when after I G had come in and excitedly told her that someone was prepared to fly me  C to Sydney and pay me for four days consulting she said, "So you're  H finally going to get that ten cents an hour you've been working towards  all these years."   
 Go figure.  9 > "Mark Daniel" <mark.daniel@vsm.com.au> wrote in message , > news:12krrrrhgbio4cc@corp.supernews.com... > & >>WASD v9.2 is available for download: >>! >>   http://wasd.vsm.com.au/wasd/  >>! >>Changes since v9.1 (June 2005):  >>1 >>   http://wasd.vsm.com.au/doc/misc/changes.html  >> >>WASD home page:  >> >>   http://wasd.vsm.com.au/ >>, >>Other 'recent' items of possible interest: >>7 >>   o  WASD: Why is it chosen when there's VMS Apache? , >>      2006 Technical Bootcamp presentation >>? >>      http://wasd.vsm.com.au/other/D215_WASD_Apache_notes.pdf  >>! >>   o  Can WASD handle the Load?  >>B >>      http://wasd.vsm.com.au/other/can_wasd_handle_the_load.html >> >>
 >>Mark Daniel 
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