1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 23 Nov 2006	Volume 2006 : Issue 645       Contents:. Re: A place where non-mention of VMS is good !. Re: A place where non-mention of VMS is good !. Re: A place where non-mention of VMS is good !) Batch Queue Jobs Stuck In Starting Status - Re: Batch Queue Jobs Stuck In Starting Status - Re: Batch Queue Jobs Stuck In Starting Status , Re: increase in spam and what to do about it$ Re: Is HP trying to kill VMS again ?$ Re: Is HP trying to kill VMS again ? JBOSS 4 Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 MSL2024 LTO-3 Ultrium 960 support? Re: OpenVMS Clustering Question  Re: OpenVMS Integrity Webinar  Re: OpenVMS Integrity Webinar 1 Re: SYSTEM-F-INFSMEM, insufficient dynamic memory 1 Re: SYSTEM-F-INFSMEM, insufficient dynamic memory 1 Re: SYSTEM-F-INFSMEM, insufficient dynamic memory 2 Re: Using SYS$INPUT for input into an FTP command., Re: Western Dayligh Time. Starts in 12 days!5 Re: Western Dayligh Time. You could not make this up!   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 01:13:42 -0800! From: "Ian Miller" <gxys@uk2.net> 7 Subject: Re: A place where non-mention of VMS is good ! A Message-ID: <1164273222.516540.29130@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>    Beach Runner wrote: D > As much as I love VMS, it is the least secure OS out there at this > time. E > User names and Pass words are STILL to this day sent in plain text.   5 Same on any system using telnet.  Use ssh or kerberos    ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 07:07:41 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 7 Subject: Re: A place where non-mention of VMS is good ! 3 Message-ID: <1qsXXGyTCSwV@eisner.encompasserve.org>   r In article <1164270742.359442.234880@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, "Beach Runner" <Bob4Health@hotmail.com> writes:  D > As much as I love VMS, it is the least secure OS out there at this > time. E > User names and Pass words are STILL to this day sent in plain text.   : That is only a hazard for certain combinations of factors:   	Must be on a network   " 	Emotionally unable to require SSH  ! 	Technically unable to user IPSEC    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:17:35 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk7 Subject: Re: A place where non-mention of VMS is good ! , Message-ID: <ek471f$m0u$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>  r In article <1164270742.359442.234880@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, "Beach Runner" <Bob4Health@hotmail.com> writes: >  >Bob Koehler wrote: p >> In article <WKednap3MqSVocDYnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@comcast.com>, glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> writes: >> >G >> > If windows was 10 times more secure than VMS it would still be the 2 >> > primary target for virus writers and hackers. >>F >>    If Windows was 10 times more secure than VMS then all the scriptF >>    kiddies would give up and the serious crackers would be bouncing >>    off the wall.  > C >As much as I love VMS, it is the least secure OS out there at this  >time.D >User names and Pass words are STILL to this day sent in plain text. >    Rubbish.   SSH is available on VMS.  M Telnet, FTP and myriad other standard TCPIP applications used on all sorts of 5 platforms send usernames and passwords in the clear.    M It would be great to be able to insist that only encrypted protocols are used K but it is no good insisting on only using ssh on your VMS system if it then B needs to talk to other systems which only provide Telnet and FTP.       
 David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University     > ( >That said, hackers just don't know VMS. > H >As far as the comments about Wallmart - Meaningful employment in the US >is E >becoming increasingly difficult to obtain.  They buy all their goods  >supporting anF >oppressive totalitarian government in China, keeping them wealthy and	 >in power C >while doing more to destroy more companies, both retail stores and 	 >American ) >manufacturing than any force in America.  > E >They have regularly been shown to engage in abusive labor practices,  >making E >workers work additional hours and not put it on they pay card.  They 
 >are becoming F >the face of America.  In the long run the destructive effects have to >be painfully obvious. >  >And the good is?  >    ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 07:32:14 -0800 From: andrew@floatingbear.ca2 Subject: Batch Queue Jobs Stuck In Starting StatusA Message-ID: <1164295934.831960.42750@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>   E We are running an Alpha and OpenVMS V7.1 and have for many years.  We G occasionally have problems with job syncronization where the job we are G waiting for ends and the sycronize job just keeps waiting.  The process  that is running is QUEMAN.  E However, last night, after adding "just a couple" of more jobs to our A overnight processing, all of the queues stopped working.  Quite a E number of jobs completed normally and about a dozen jobs were waiting D for a syncronize to a job that had already finished.  HOWEVER all ofF the rest of the jobs that should have been executing were sitting in aD "Starting" status.  Trying to delete existing jobs had them go to anG "Aborting" status and hang.  Stopping the queues also did not complete.   B We ended up re-booting the system and rebuilding the queue managerE files and then manually re-submitting the jobs which are not chugging E along.  About two years ago, we also started a practice of re-booting D the system once a month and rebuilding the queue manager files about3 once a quarter.  We last did that about a week ago.   F Is anyone familiar with what might have caused our problems last nightF with the jobs sitting as "Starting", is there something that we shouldF be doing that could resolve this problem?  My task for today is to tryC to reduce the number of jobs that are in the queue at any one time.    Thanks   Andrew Butchart  andrew@floatingbear.ca   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 09:13:52 -08000 From: "Andrew Butchart" <andrew@floatingbear.ca>6 Subject: Re: Batch Queue Jobs Stuck In Starting StatusC Message-ID: <1164302032.288398.210530@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    Christoph Gartmann wrote:  <snip> > Just a few thoughts:M > - are diskquotas enabled somewhere (either on the drive that holds the jobs ) >   or on the drive that keeps the logs)? C > - did you ever do an ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR on the disk(s) involved?  > 
 > Regards, >    Christoph Gartmann  >   
 Christoph:  F Thank you for your prompt reply.  I believe the disk you are referring; to would be the one that contains the queue manager files - F sys$common:[sysexe]QMAN$MASTER.DAT - which on our system is the dkc100 volume.    show quota /disk=dkc100:: %SYSTEM-F-QFNOTACT, disk quotas not enabled on this volume> so no - we don't have disk quotas enabled - I didn't think so.  F We haven't done an analyze on the drive.  I just did now - without the% /repair parameter since I'm paranoid. D It turned up a lot of messages about files marked for delete was the* following messages and a few similar ones:< %ANALDISK-I-BADHIGHWATER, file (4098,255,1) PAGEFILE.SYS;1CL% inconsistent highwater mark and EFBLK E %ANALDISK-W-FUTCREDAT, file (11616,4702,1) [OVERNITE]00001A3B.TMP;1CL  creation date is in the futureF %ANALDISK-W-ALLOCSET, blocks incorrectly marked freeCL  LBN 2814210 to 2814244, RVN 1C %ANALDISK-W-ALLOCCLR, blocks incorrectly marked allocatedCL     LBN  2814315 to 2814419, RVN 1 F %ANALDISK-W-ALLOCSET, blocks incorrectly marked freeCL  LBN 3356290 to 3356324, RVN 1  6 None of the messages marked with a ANALDISK-E- though.  E There are other similar messages on the other disk devices but again, F nothing marked with an "-E-" and nothing referencing any of the QUEMAN files.   Andrew B   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:48:31 -0500 3 From: "Peter Weaver" <info-vax@weaverconsulting.ca> 6 Subject: Re: Batch Queue Jobs Stuck In Starting Status6 Message-ID: <063b01c70f27$97f474f0$2802a8c0@CHARONVAX>   ----- Original Message -----   From: <andrew@floatingbear.ca> To: <Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com> * Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:32 AM2 Subject: Batch Queue Jobs Stuck In Starting Status     >...D > We ended up re-booting the system and rebuilding the queue managerG > files and then manually re-submitting the jobs which are not chugging G > along.  About two years ago, we also started a practice of re-booting F > the system once a month and rebuilding the queue manager files about5 > once a quarter.  We last did that about a week ago.  >...  K That sounds like a very unusual thing to have to do. I have worked on many  L large systems with large numbers of queues and I have never heard of anyone G needing to do reboot once a month or rebuild the queue database. Is it  M possible that you have some program(s) out there trying to do something with  H the queue files directly? Or maybe some programs that are trying to use  $SNDJBC incorrectly?   Peter Weaver www.weaverconsulting.ca 9 CHARON-VAX  CHARON-AXP DataStream Reflection PreciseMail     ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:54:50 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> 5 Subject: Re: increase in spam and what to do about it / Message-ID: <4sl0ciFvgtikU1@mid.individual.net>   - On 2006-11-22 23:21, "Bill Gunshannon" wrote:    > [...]  > I > Not sure what SPF is, but I can assure you there is no way for spammers  > to get around my method.  H "Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for Authorizing Use of Domains in E-Mail,@ Version 1", see RFC 4408, <http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4408.txt>.   > [...]    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 03:10:44 -0800 From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk- Subject: Re: Is HP trying to kill VMS again ? C Message-ID: <1164280243.974650.297130@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   D Looks to me like the per core license cost of clsutering is 3231 GBPC and the FOE is 741GBP.  This is cheaper than the MCOE license (MCOE E being mission critical operating environment and FOE being foundation  operating environment).   3 The FOE license includes an unlimited user license.   F The license costs are per core, so for a four CPU box you need four of
 each license.    Steve    Robert Deininger wrote: H > In article <ww59h.4454$T6.2665@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, "David Turner,: > Island Computers US Corp" <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote: > ' > >But where are the $10-12K systems???  > G > On the same web page as the bigger systems...  rx1620.  rx2620.  Plus I > unannounced systems in the pipeline (which aren't on the web page yet).  > G > I made an example rx3600 configuration because that's where the first I > poster was  asking questions.  That's not the lowest-cost system in the I > lineup.  But you'd know that, unless comp.os.vms is ONLY source of your  > VMS news.  > M > >There are a lot of distributed VMS users out there such as Blockbuster who " > >now have no viable upgrade path( > >They have in excess of 3000 systems !< > >That's a lot of cash for HP if they had a low end system. > 6 > Good thing HP has a low-end offering then, isn't it? > # > Are you representing Blockbuster?  > I > They have a couple of upgrade paths to VMS on Integrity that would save J > them money compared to Alpha.  In particular, the office-friendly rx2620G > with 1 CPU (2 cores) is probably a very nice fit.  I would expect any F > customer migrating thousands of systems to take advantage of licenseG > trade-in programs.  And hardware discounts are common in large deals.  > F > I don't understand your assertion that such customers have no viable > upgrade path.  >  > Have a happy Thanksgiving!   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:49:21 -0800 * From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos-remove.com>- Subject: Re: Is HP trying to kill VMS again ? ) Message-ID: <op.tjg7kjy0tte90l@hyrrokkin>   L On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:00:36 -0800, David Turner, Island Computers US Corp   <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote:  & > But where are the $10-12K systems??? > J > There are a lot of distributed VMS users out there such as Blockbuster   > who ! > now have no viable upgrade path   9 Just curious, Why do they not have a viable upgrade path?   ' > They have in excess of 3000 systems ! ; > That's a lot of cash for HP if they had a low end system.  >  > DT >  > 7 > "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca> wrote in message , > news:12m8lctralbjp71@corp.supernews.com... >>E >> "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspringdot.com> wrote in message X >> news:rdeininger-2111062359570001@dialup-4.233.149.223.dial1.manchester1.level3.net...> >>> In article <12m6r7djjvb181a@corp.supernews.com>, "Syltrem"% >>> <syltremzulu@videotron.ca> wrote:  >>> ? >>>> We are getting pricing submissions for an Integrity server  >>>>G >>>> On an rx3600 2 CPU, 2 cores each, HP charges 4 Unlimited Users VMS 
 >>>> licenses  >>>> + 4 VMScluster licenses >>>>F >>>> I end up paying the software twice the price of the cost of the   >>>> hardware.K >>>> And they say Integrity prices are going down... If you don't run VMS    >>>> on  >>>> it 
 >>>> that is.  >>> J >>> I got some configurations and prices from the configurator tool on theJ >>> web.  Of course the prices are not official, and the configurator is   >>> not 5 >>> capable of getting detailed configurations right.  >>>  >>> 4-core Integrity Server:F >>> AB596A 160: rx3600 with 2 Processors (4 cores) 1.6 GHz     $14,750F >>> AB563A    : 2 GB memory                                    $   930F >>> AD124A    : 8 DIMM memory carrier                          $   595F >>> AD140A    : 36 GB 10k SAS disk drive                       $   356F >>> AD142A    : DVD-ROM drive                                  $   230F >>> AD053A    : rack-mount kit                                 $   150F >>> BA322AA 0D1 : VMS FOE factory integrated                   $   200F >>> BA453C      : (4 @ $895) VMS FOE license                   $ 3,580 >>> F >>> Total                                                      $20,791 >>>  >>= >> My quote is 92,000 $ for the rx3600 with all the licenses.  >>L >> Not every software I have today will run on the Integrity, which is why   >> IH >> need to maintain the 2 Alpha alive for some time. If one is sick, theJ >> other one can keep the pace along with the new Integrity. The IntegrityH >> box wil typically run Oracle and some apps that use Oracle and RMS,   >> until! >> it can run everything we have.  >>F >> The other choice is to just replace the smaller of the 2 Alpha withG >> another Alpha (ES45 probably). This way I don't have to pay for more G >> licenses. But the preferred path for us is to get an Integrity box   
 >> becauseG >> we eventually may need to be able to compile on this platform if our @ >> clients get an Integrity (and they might). We do applications= >> maintenance/development for them so we need the compilers.  >>K >> This Itanium has to get into the cluster as some applications will share D >> RMS files and many other things (print/batch queues, SYSUAF, etc) >>
 >> Syltrem >> >> >  >        --  E Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/    ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 03:32:53 -0800  From: francesco.gennai@gmail.com Subject: JBOSSB Message-ID: <1164281573.580036.47020@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  5 Is there any JBOSS working installation on VMS IA64 ?   	 Francesco    ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 03:15:52 -0800! From: "Ian Miller" <gxys@uk2.net> = Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-2 MSL2024 LTO-3 Ultrium 960 support? C Message-ID: <1164280552.614196.152380@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>    answered on itrc  L http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1078526      P http://www.hp.com/products1/storage/compatibility/tapebackup/software/14-0003-00 00.html#matrixtable = http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/storage/smstape_matrix.html    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:05:48 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk( Subject: Re: OpenVMS Clustering Question, Message-ID: <ek46bc$lr4$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>  h In article <ed573$45654845$cef8887a$25785@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >M White wrote: O >> I was afraid that was still the answer(s) I suspected. I'm in a shop running M >> Cerner, and Oracle connected via IBM's MQ.  Supposedly if this was running - >> on AIX and automated failover is possible.  > J >Automated failover is possible and VMS provide the tools to do this. You K >can also have the application run on both nodes at all times and when one  6 >fails, new transactions all go to the surviving node. > K >But if you want one instance of an application to failover automatically,  M >including work in progress, it is the application,s responsability to allow  K >another instance of itself to start exactly where the crashed on stopped.  L >(eg: it must somehow transmit its environment at regular intervals so that 5 >the backup instance knows where to pickup the work).  > L >In terms of a interactive session, since there are so many structures kept K >in memory (such as recall buffer), this cannot be magically transfered to  F >another node and the exact same environment recreated transparently. K >Remember that a node may fail instantly with no time to take any remedial    >action such as save memory etc. >   J Also when the system is crashing you cannot trust the state of the system.C The best you could do would be to have all processes automatically  M checkpointing their operations to disk so after the crash another node could  K restart them from the last known good checkpoint. Such checkpointing would  E require a fair amount of diskspace and probably slow down the system. O However after the crash the new node would somehow need to be sure how far back M the last good checkpoint was - which for safety reasons would probably not be J a checkpoint immediately preceding the crash. Also the new node would haveM needed to have done enough analysis of the reasons for the crash to determine N that, for a crash caused by a software problem rather than a hardware problem,F none of the processes it was restarting were the cause since otherwiseO it runs the risk of restarting a process which then causes it to crash a little  while later.     K >Note that even on Tandem, it is the application that fails over, it isn't  I >the OS that magically and transparently fails over apps. The OS provide  . >tools to make it easier for apps to failover.  D Is that True ? I thought Tandem was a real fault tolerant system ie ; two systems running exactly the same processes in lockstep. ? Meaning that no hardware failure on one should stop processing.     
 David Webb Security rteam leader  CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 01:40:47 -0800! From: "Ian Miller" <gxys@uk2.net> & Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity WebinarC Message-ID: <1164274847.029747.199230@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   ? this one is described as an audiocast and requires the use of a B telephone to dial a telephone number in the USA. It is directed atC partners in North America but DSPP members from other countries can  dial in.  5 If you want the PL/I compiler then contact it's owner  http://www.kednos.com/  D Are you aware of any commercially significant applications that need) the PL/I compiler to move to OpenVMS I64?    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:24:18 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG& Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity Webinar0 Message-ID: <00A5F261.3BC718ED@SendSpamHere.ORG>  h In article <c3bec$4565192d$cef8887a$14503@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >  >  >Main, Kerry wrote:  >> All,  >>  ? >> The following may be of interest to developers on this list:  > L >When you guys make announcements of "webinars", please state the technical K >requirements and technology used in the announcement. When you get to the  G >signup pages, there is no such information. I have wasted enough time  E >siging up to those thing only to find out that it just doesn't work  C >(incompatible, or inadequante bandwidth) and wasted a LOT of time.   K I have to agree with JF here.  However, I'm fairly certain that Hopelessly  J Pathetic *ONLY* wants Itanium developers that develope using Weendoze Pee-J Cees as that seems to be they always do these with a Micro$oft proprietaryJ format.  Hopelessly Pathetic doesn't want non-Weendoze PeeCee users in theG fold since I know I can't watch/listen to them on my Powerbook or iMac.        F >Last time HP made some webinar announcement, there was no way to get = >details of the presentation unless one signed up. BAD BOY !.   & But now you can get all their SPAM! :)      J >Will we ever hear about that $10 billion porting fund being used to port  >VMS apps to that IA64 thing ?  J There's a $10B porting fund?  I've been busting my hump porting here and I* haven't seen a dime from that fund here.       --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 07:15:05 -0800! From: "Ian Miller" <gxys@uk2.net> : Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-INFSMEM, insufficient dynamic memoryC Message-ID: <1164294904.064958.113800@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Larry Kilgallen wrote:K > Or for those who require the extra security features provided by Phase 4.   ' What are these extra security features?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:57:58 -0800 , From: "Malcolm Dunnett" <dunnett@mala.bc.ca>: Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-INFSMEM, insufficient dynamic memory Message-ID: <4565c485$1@flight>   C "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspringdot.com> wrote in message  U news:rdeininger-2311060938380001@dialup-4.233.173.196.dial1.manchester1.level3.net...   D > This is the 3rd or 4th similar report I've heard, all on I64 V8.3.K > SYSTEM-F-INSFMEM in every case, but different components have problems on K > different systems.  If your system is having trouble with TCPIP, it would J > be interesting to SET VERIFY before running the startup.  Can you narrow > down the point of failure?  I   Yes, I did that. On one of the systems the points of failure were when   TCP/IP. services attempted to load the proxy database:   sysconfig -c proxy  F Then again when DECWindows starts it gets the same error when it does:  = sysman io connect ina0/noadapter/driver='decw$common_decoder'   J I checked the other system and found it's also getting the same error, butF in a different place, it gets the error when it goes to load the PWIP  driver.   A > Something resource-hungry may have slipped into V8.3, without a I > corresponding change to AUTOGEN.  DECnet, DECwindows, and TCPIP are the L > usual suspects for resource-grabbing, but AUTOGEN knows how to account forK > their needs.  Even so, something that starts earlier can steal resources, ; > and a later-starting component can be an innocent victim.   J The odd thing is that throwing more resources at it doesn't seem to help,  unlessK I'm throwing the wrong resource at it. My reading indicates that this error > is most likely coming from EXE$ALONONPAGED, so I increased theH non-paged (and paged) pool by an order of magnitude and it didn't help. 	 After the J error there's still lots of contiguous room in non-paged pool ( eg 190MB )  L The error isn't specific to TCP/IP. If I start it first and then attempt to  start @ DECNET I get INSFMEM errors in the DECNET startup. I expect thatC this is a generic OS problem and that TCP/IP and DECNet just happen ? to be the current programs that are exposing it on my systems.     ------------------------------    Date: 23 Nov 2006 08:49:22 -0800/ From: "Volker Halle" <volker_halle@hotmail.com> : Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-INFSMEM, insufficient dynamic memoryC Message-ID: <1164300562.203791.123600@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>    Malcolm,  < to further diagnose this problem, would you consider seetingE SYSTEM_CHECK=1 and NPAG_RING_SIZE=20000. Then reboot and issue one of A the commands, which will cause the SS$_INSFMEM error. Once it has B happened, immediately crash the system: type CTRL-P on the console twice and answer Crash y/n: Y   G Then try to look into the dump with SDA> SHOW POOL/RING and try to find 5 out, if there was a nonpaged pool allocation problem.   9 Consider to provide them dump to HP for further analysis.    --- , Volker Halle, Invenate GmbH, OpenVMS Support  # An OpenVMS crashdump analysis a day $ makes the Windows headaches go away.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:19:03 GMT + From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= ; Subject: Re: Using SYS$INPUT for input into an FTP command. 2 Message-ID: <r5i9h.24092$E02.9839@newsb.telia.net>   Ade wrote :    > (an IBM MVS system)   < I manage an VMS application where there are many FTP session' against an MVS mainframe (1000s a day).   0 Since I needed to execute a suit of FTP commands8 I found it easier to create a tempfile on the fly like :  * $ ftp <mvs-host> /user=<user> /pass=<pass> quote "site lrecl=nnn" quote "site blocksize=nnnn"  quote "site recfm=fb" ! put <lical-file> <remote-dataset>  quote "site filetype=jes"  put <jcl-file> quit $ exit  1 This script transfers a file into a MVS "dataset" & and submits a batch job to process it.  8 The "site filetype=jes" directs the target file into the6 "internal reader", a software emulation of an physical2 punched-card reader that is still used to "submit" batch jobs on MVS... :-)  1 The <jcl-file> is just a small stub that only run 9 another "submit" of a larger JCL managed by the mainframe  application folks...  	 Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:44:53 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com 5 Subject: Re: Western Dayligh Time. Starts in 12 days! 0 Message-ID: <87lkm2dxy2.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  / JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:   F >>>> On Dec 3rd, turn off all Daylight Savings time support and change, >>>> your system time to the "new" timezone.  ' >>> My thought is to totally ignore it.   B > On the Nullarbor, near the South Australia Border, there are two  C Sure you don't mean Broken Hill? On the SA/NSW boarder. Has its own  timezone. YANCOWINNA.   D > adjoining towns that decided long ago that the WA time zone wasn'tA > good for them since they are so far east of Perth and they have D > their own unofficial time zone. Causes problems for the guy at theF > weather office who needs to send his reports with Perth time stamps,1 > but otherwise these towns seem to live happily.   < The time meridian is way east of Perth, so 96% of the states1 population are on a perminant DST all year round.   @ But it seems that isn't good enough, so they are working to push> our Melinoma rates from second place in the world to pass Qld.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.C ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ---------------------- : For a quality mail server, try SurgeMail, easy to install,@ fast, efficient and reliable.  Run a million users on a standardA PC running NT or Unix without running out of power, use the best! C ----  See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgemail.htm  ----    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:11:14 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com > Subject: Re: Western Dayligh Time. You could not make this up!3 Message-ID: <87zmaielq5.fsf_-_@k9.prep.synonet.com>   F It just keeps getting better. I went to the state govt web site to getC the details to e-mail to Sue to pass on the the right people in VMS 4 HPUX and Non-stop for the patches. And found this...   A Information on Daylight Savings will be made available on the new C www.wa.gov.au website from Monday 27 November 2006, coinciding with 4 advertisements on radio and in newspapers that week.  F Yes, this is an exact cut and paste, and on enquiry, you can't yet get any more info.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.? ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ = For a quality usenet news server, try DNEWS, easy to install, ? fast, efficient and reliable. For home servers or carrier class ? installations with millions of users it will allow you to grow! ? ----  See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dnews.htm  ----    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2006.645 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    YS_MOUNT		/**/

/* I_SYS_STATFS:
 *	This symbol, if defined, indicates that <sys/statfs.h> exists.
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#undef	I_SYS_STATFS		/**/

/* I_SYS_STATVFS:
 *	This symbol, if defined, indicates that <sys/statvfs.h> exists and
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#undef	I_SYS_STATVFS		/**/

/* I_SYSUIO:
 *	This symbol, if defined, indicates that <sys/uio.h> exists and
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#define	I_SYSUIO		/**/

/* I_SYSUTSNAME:
 *	This symbol, if defined, indicates that <sys/utsname.h> exists and
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#define	I_SYSUTSNAME		/**/

/* I_SYS_VFS:
 *	This symbol, if defined, indicates that <sys/vfs.h> exists and
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#undef	I_SYS_VFS		/**/

/* I_TIME:
 *	This symbol, if defined, indicates to the C program that it should
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/* I_SYS_TIME:
 *	This symbol, if defined, indicates to the C program that it should
 *	include <sys/time.h>.
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/* I_SYS_TIME_KERNEL:
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#define I_TIME		/**/
#undef I_SYS_TIME		/**/
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/* I_USTAT:
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 *	should be included.
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#undef	I_USTAT		/**/

/* PERL_INC_VERSION_LIST:
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#define PERL_INC_VERSION_LIST 0		/**/

/* INSTALL_USR_BIN_PERL:
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/* PERL_PRIfldbl:
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/* PERL_PRIgldbl:
 *	This symbol, if defined, contains the string used by stdio to
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/* PERL_PRIeldbl:
 *	This symbol, if defined, contains the string used by stdio to
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/* PERL_SCNfldbl:
 *	This symbol, if defined, contains the string used by stdio to
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#undef PERL_PRIfldbl		/**/
#undef PERL_PRIgldbl		/**/
#define PERL_PRIeldbl	"e"	/**/
#undef PERL_SCNfldbl		/**/

/* Off_t:
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/* LSEEKSIZE:
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/* Off_t_size:
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/* Free_t:
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/* Malloc_t:
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