INFO-VAX Tue, 09 Jan 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 17 Contents: Re: "reverse pathworks" ? 1,000,000 License PAK's Served! Alternatives to HP maintenance Re: Changing DNS resolver vs running applications Re: Dec VWS Internals ? Re: Disk for a Multia Re: DS10L disk devices Re: DS10L disk devices MicroVAX IIs/BA123s in Demand? Re: MicroVAX IIs/BA123s in Demand? Re: MOSAIC: slow image loading new daylight savings time question... Re: new daylight savings time question... Re: OpenVMS Licence for people in Asia Re: OpenVMS Licence for people in Asia Re: OpenVMS Licence for people in Asia Re: Restarting DECNET and not X server Re: SIMH hints and tips please Re: SIMH hints and tips please Re: SIMH hints and tips please Re: SIMH hints and tips please Re: SIMH hints and tips please Re: SIMH hints and tips please Re: SIMH hints and tips please Re: SYSMAN suggestion: SET ENV /CLUSTER /EXCLUDE= Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Re: Windoze CD/DVD burning software and OpenVMS long file names Re: [ODS2_WIN32] Reading ODS2/ODS5 CDs/volumes on Win32/Win64? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:12:59 GMT From: "Jerry Alan Braga" Subject: Re: "reverse pathworks" ? Message-ID: Is Samba ready for prime time or is it still in testing mode? Our site using VMS 8.2 going to 8.3 shortly for MSA 1500 active/active. I would love to get open-vms as a client not just a server which is what I am using pathworks advanced server 7.4 for. We also use the single-sign-on feature of pathworks. Does samba have that as well ? "Bob Koehler" wrote in message news:YPXWUX$R9VX7@eisner.encompasserve.org... > In article <1168264120.562395.193740@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > "Pierre" writes: >> hi, >> >> with pathworks (ou SAMBA) I can access OVMS file from a PC. is there a >> way to reverse this process and access PC files from OVMS ? >> > > Yes. You should be able to set your PC to serve the disk, or at > least the directory tree, and access it via Samba on the VMS system. > > You could also do it via other protocols, like NFS. > > IMHO Samba is more likely to get it right. > ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 12:14:39 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com Subject: 1,000,000 License PAK's Served! Message-ID: <1168287279.585177.136080@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> The OpenVMS Hobbyist Program has served it's one millionth License PAK! http://www.openvmshobbyist.com/blog/index.php ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 20:33:00 -0800 From: "David B Sneddon" Subject: Alternatives to HP maintenance Message-ID: <1168317180.740324.273880@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Hi Folks, Due to the recent decline in the level of service by HP and after the very recent absolutely abyssmal handling of a simple hardware support call by HP, I am looking for alternative suppliers of hardware (and software) maintenance in Australia (Perth on the west coast). Does anyone here know of other suppliers who are willing to support Alphaservers and associated peripherals and possibly also software in Australia? Any good/bad experiences? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:13:12 -0500 From: "Richard Whalen" Subject: Re: Changing DNS resolver vs running applications Message-ID: Though there are QIO functions that perform gethostbyname, they may not used very much now. If you were to do an ANALYZE/IMAGE on TCPIP$IPC_SHR you would find that much of the resolver code is present in that image. The resolver code probably only does the initialization in which it gets the IP address of the DNS server the first time that it needs it. "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:7ea0e$45a291cb$cef8887a$17352@TEKSAVVY.COM... > Some time ago, I changed the node running DNS server. On my workstation, I > then used TCPIP to update the live and permanent resolver definitions. > > Immediatly after, I was able to NSLOOKUP and it reflected the new DNS > server and resolved my queries. > > However, Mozilla no longer worked, it was no longer able to resolve anything. > > Stopping and restarting mozilla worked. (and I assume any other app). > > How does the resolver actually work ? Is this something which is loaded > when the application starts and there is code within the app that loads the > resolver config once and then works within the context of the application > process for the remainder of the life of the image ? > > I was under the impression that due to the QIO nature of it, that some > driver would be called by the app to resolve DNS entries and as a result, > updating the system definition would automatically apply to any running > application. > > Any explanation on how this is really working ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:12:14 +0000 (UTC) From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Subject: Re: Dec VWS Internals ? Message-ID: "FredK" writes: >"Michael Moroney" wrote in message >news:ens10i$sjd$1@pcls4.std.com... >> >> One weird one I remember was a font it had that was 1 pixel wide and 2 or >> 3 pixels high. With it you could make an itty bitty terminal window. >> While you couldn't actually read anything when using this font, you could >> recognize what was going on, just like viewing a terminal screen from a >> distance. There was some sort of magic with this font (only) where >> clicking on the terminal window made it switch to a normal font so you >> could read it, almost like an icon. >Not quite sure what system that was on. On VWS I implemented a 2-pixel >high/1-pixel wide font that was used when you shrank the terminal window to >an icon, I essentially continued to run the terminal emulator in the icon >using this font. I (and others) found it useful - since you could tell when >there was activity on the terminal. I think that was it. It was this (real) icon that used the tiny font, and the normal uniconizing that switched to the normal font. There have been a few times when I wished DECWindows had that. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:18:38 GMT From: "Scott" Subject: Re: Disk for a Multia Message-ID: yes... that is what I read... :) I have two Multia with 256 MB of ram and 4 GB drives. So far I have tried several Linux distros and NT but not VMS. That is next. "David J Dachtera" wrote in message news:45A30D69.2A290750@spam.comcast.net... > Scott wrote: >> >> My Multia came with a 1 GB RZ26F. I replaced that with a 4 GB Seagate >> ST34371N. >> Works perfect and there is one for sale on Ebay for $14.99. >> I have read about VMS on a Multia but haven't tried it yet. > > I had VMS V7.1-2 running on an Alpha Multia, but the machine has since died. > > See http://www.djesys.com/vms/hobbyist/multia.html > > -- > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems > http://www.djesys.com/ > > Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page > http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ > > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ > > Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: > http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ > > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 21:41:52 GMT From: Hans Bachner Subject: Re: DS10L disk devices Message-ID: Paul Sture wrote: > You can do: > > $ INIT DVA0 MYDISK > $ MOUNT DVA0 MYDISK > > and use as a normal VMS volume. That's only true if a physical floppy drive is connected to the system. :-) In the case in question it's a "phantom" drive like the additional DQ drives. But it's true - it's nice to see ODS-2 (or ODS-5) scale from a floppy to a Terabyte volume. You need several variants of FAT to span these volume sizes. Hans. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 22:16:00 GMT From: Hans Bachner Subject: Re: DS10L disk devices Message-ID: William Webb wrote: >> The list of supported options for the DS10L has a floppy/CD-ROM combo >> drive which works nicely. > > And costs more than what David Turner sells DS10Ls for. Their online shop lists it for $139. During the blow-out days the DS10L was $199. But even if I had one of the lottery DS10Ls, I wouldn't have hesitated to pay $139 for the combo drive. You can't ask for free accessories for free systems, I think... Hans. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:19:01 GMT From: Jeff Shirley Subject: MicroVAX IIs/BA123s in Demand? Message-ID: <9zyoh.8847$w91.8571@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Greetings. I have a couple of MicroVAX II systems in BA123 boxes I would like to sell, hopefully to hobbyists rather than the local scrap guy. My question is whether it might make more sense to just pull the boards and cabinet kits, and scrap the BA123 enclosures. The first system has fairly standard components, a KA630 (M7606-AF), two 4MB boards (M7608-BP), a pair of DHV11s (M3104), a DELQA (M7516), RQDX3 (M7555), TQK50 (M7546), RD53, TK50, and a pair of boards from Ultimate Computer Corporation. I think the second system has some more interesting parts, like a pair of ESDI dives and a Pertec tape drive interface. The first system weighed in at 125 pounds, which would cost upwards of $150 to ship across the country from (from the Los Angeles area). I just do not know if there is any demand for the old BA123s in the hobbyist community. Opinions? Jeff. P.S. Apologies to the PDP-11 groups for the crossposts. P.P.S. This old DEC hardware amazes me. I hooked a VT220 to the first system described above, and powered it up. It booted right up with MicroVMS V4.7, circa 1987. -- Jeff Shirley spamalot@mindspring.com "Bill Gates is filthy rich, but that doesn't mean I want to be married to him." ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 14:01:05 -0800 From: bob.birch@gmail.com Subject: Re: MicroVAX IIs/BA123s in Demand? Message-ID: <1168293665.295209.223950@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Jeff Shirley wrote: > Greetings. > > I have a couple of MicroVAX II systems in BA123 boxes I would like to sell, > hopefully to hobbyists rather than the local scrap guy. My question is > whether it might make more sense to just pull the boards and cabinet kits, and > scrap the BA123 enclosures. > > The first system has fairly standard components, a KA630 (M7606-AF), two 4MB > boards (M7608-BP), a pair of DHV11s (M3104), a DELQA (M7516), RQDX3 (M7555), > TQK50 (M7546), RD53, TK50, and a pair of boards from Ultimate Computer > Corporation. I think the second system has some more interesting parts, like > a pair of ESDI dives and a Pertec tape drive interface. > > The first system weighed in at 125 pounds, which would cost upwards of $150 to > ship across the country from (from the Los Angeles area). I just do not know > if there is any demand for the old BA123s in the hobbyist community. > Opinions? > > Jeff. > > P.S. Apologies to the PDP-11 groups for the crossposts. > P.P.S. This old DEC hardware amazes me. I hooked a VT220 to the first system > described above, and powered it up. It booted right up with MicroVMS V4.7, > circa 1987. Definite interest here in Florida, for the whole box IIRC those Ultimate boards ran the PICK OS but it's been a while since I worked on them, maybe that was the 11 based systems ? A lot of commercial sites ran that configuration, pretty solid hardware and PICK users loved the OS. I think I still have some of the manuals. > -- > Jeff Shirley > spamalot@mindspring.com > "Bill Gates is filthy rich, but that doesn't mean I want to be married to him." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:22:45 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: MOSAIC: slow image loading Message-ID: <45a2b60a$0$371$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: > > add a
between each image. It forces the image to start on a "new line". Otherwise, it needs to have fetched data on enough images to get their sizes and determine if they can be fitted next to each other. With a
, as soon as it gets the size of the first image, it can place it and then know the top position of the next image. > While the effects of code bloat can show up, my impression was that > George Cook's Mosaic was better code than Netscape Gold. Yes. But Mosaic supports more html features than the old netscape (except for javascript). ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 14:07:21 -0800 From: magalettac@hotmail.com Subject: new daylight savings time question... Message-ID: <1168294041.872043.298220@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I installed the following 3 patches on my test Alpha to take care of the new time change edict that the energy policy act of 2005 enacts. The patches were installed cleanly as noted I then disabled dtss and set the time to 11-mar-2007:1:59:00 to test the rollover (nothing happened ? I tried a couple of different steps with enabling and disabling dtss and still nothing happened, should the new timezone file have kicked in and made the clock go forward by an hour ? Any information is apprieciated.... DEC AXPVMS VMS732_TZ V3.0 Patch Install 08-JAN-2007 10:11:20 DEC AXPVMS VMS732_UPDATE V9.0 Patch Install 08-JAN-2007 10:00:21 DEC AXPVMS VMS732_PCSI V3.0 Patch Install 08-JAN-2007 09:18:12 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:31:48 -0800 From: Joe Bloggs Subject: Re: new daylight savings time question... Message-ID: <0sh5q29c3kv1bh0dtu8j0ul06bgs986nv0@4ax.com> On 8 Jan 2007 14:07:21 -0800, magalettac@hotmail.com wrote: > I installed the following 3 patches on my test Alpha to take care of >the new time > change edict that the energy policy act of 2005 enacts. The patches >were installed cleanly as noted I then disabled dtss and set the time >to 11-mar-2007:1:59:00 to test the rollover (nothing happened ? I tried >a couple of different steps with enabling and disabling dtss and still >nothing >happened, should the new timezone file have kicked in and made the >clock go forward by an hour ? > >Any information is apprieciated.... Things to try (some of what follows may be specific to Alpha 7.3-2, and/or later VMS versions ...) Check that AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is set to 1 (no longer a dynamic sysgen param, unfortunately) $ mcr sysgen HELP SYS_PAR AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV Sys_Parameters AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is set to either 1 or 0. The default is 0. If AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is set to 1, OpenVMS automatically makes the change to and from daylight saving time. After changing the time to March '2007, try: $ @sys$manager:utc$time_setup "" RULE then take a look at $ show logical SYS$TIME* in particular, look at SYS$TIMEZONE_RULE, iirc, the 'old' (pre-2007) timezone rule looks approximately like so, ,M4.1.0/02,M10.4.0/02 and the new one ,M3.2.0/02,M11.1.0/02 Also, look at whether NET$DISABLE_DTSS is defined, and possibly (at the time) NET$IGNORE_DECNET. (there were in the past, ECO's related to these, versus the automated change-over routines ...) Lastly, The most recent DST/ST changeover (Oct 2006) we/i had 1-2 systems (out of 35+) where the automated changover failed. Owing to the fact the SYS$TIMEZONE_RULE logical was missing. The trail/food-chain back to where/when this logical is defined, as near as I could figure, was/is by a system executable at startup. Not clear to me what the possible failures might be (eg perhaps the system was once booted with a wildly incorrect time, in the past 6-12 months, reset by hand later). Nor was it clear how to get more detailed logging, or error messages, to a startup log-file, if the creation/definition of this logical should fail. I did have detailed notes (not at hand, at the moment) ans was considering opening a ticket w/ HPQ before the next changeover to see if HPQ could offer more insight .... Knowing a more about how the automated changeover was implemented, would help a good deal. %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM DD-MMM-YYYY hh:mm:ss.cc %%%%%%%%%%% Message from user SYSTEM on FUBAR %JBC-W-SYSERROR, SYS$MANAGER:JBC$DST_COMMAND.COM daylight savings time process f ailed system service error at PC 00011EA0 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM DD-MMM-YYYY hh:mm:ss.cc %%%%%%%%%%% Message from user SYSTEM on FUBAR -JBC-W-NOTIMZONRUL, SYS$TIMEZONE_RULE logical not defined, Daylight Savings Time clock adjustments are not possible ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 21:24:04 GMT From: Hans Bachner Subject: Re: OpenVMS Licence for people in Asia Message-ID: Michael Unger wrote: > On 2007-01-08 15:15, "Bob Koehler" wrote: > >> I haven't looked in a long time since I'm happy with SIMH. >> Charon-VAX sometimes has a free version but it seems to come and go >> so I quit using it. > > It is usually available as "CHARON-VAX/Demonstration for Windows" at > but currently > it is said there: "The test license is valid until 9 January 2007, I'd expect a new version really soon now :-) > runtime limited to 3 hours". The versions running on OpenVMS (Alpha/I64) and Linux don't have this limitation. They have limited configuration options, though. > (And it is rather large -- 26 MB.) 22.5 of which is the .NET runtime. Hans Bachner b.it.co IT Consulting GmbH Disclaimer: b.it.co is Sales and Support Partner for CHARON-VAX and CHARON-AXP products in Austria. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:33:06 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: OpenVMS Licence for people in Asia Message-ID: <45a2fedd$0$49201$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Hans Bachner wrote: > Michael Unger wrote: > The versions running on OpenVMS (Alpha/I64) and Linux don't have this > limitation. They have limited configuration options, though. > >> (And it is rather large -- 26 MB.) > > 22.5 of which is the .NET runtime. .NET ? Why use .NET for something that has to run on VMS as well ? (I am not aware of that .NET is ported to VMS - and it seems silly top me to have two code bases) Arne ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 21:07:14 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com Subject: Re: OpenVMS Licence for people in Asia Message-ID: <1168319234.099200.80670@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com> Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: > Hans Bachner wrote: > > Michael Unger wrote: > > The versions running on OpenVMS (Alpha/I64) and Linux don't have this > > limitation. They have limited configuration options, though. > > > >> (And it is rather large -- 26 MB.) > > > > 22.5 of which is the .NET runtime. > > .NET ? > > Why use .NET for something that has to run on VMS as well ? That's only for the Windows port. As for using .NET, unless you tell VIsual Studio to not include the /CLR compiler option, everything is compiled as "Managed Code" and requires the .NET runtimes. Same C/C++ code, but results in either .NET or regular object code. Same code base on other systems will compile just fine into normal object code. You could just as easily provide SIMH binaries that require distributing the .NET runtime as well. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 13:25:24 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com Subject: Re: Restarting DECNET and not X server Message-ID: <1168291523.958372.71520@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com> JF Mezei wrote: > For some reason, I ended up mucking up DECNET on my workstation. Had to try > to start/stop it a number of times before NETACP would go away and I could > restart it cleanly. > > After DECNET restarted cleanly, it seemed to work fine (SET HOST etc). > However, other nodes were not able to create X windows on my workstation. I > assume that the X server may have noticed DECNET shutting down and hasn't > reopened the door (aka: recreated the object) when it came back on. > > Is there a trick to get the X server to listen to DECNET again ? Or is the > only way to restart the X server from scratch ? (I really hate doing that > when I have many windows/sessions all up and running and each with their > correct environment etc). You have to restart. The connection that the X server has to DECnet (there is NET: device set up as a task listener) in invalid. The only way to get the X server to reinitialize it is to restart the X server. ------------------------------ Date: 08 Jan 2007 16:26:31 -0500 From: Rich Alderson Subject: Re: SIMH hints and tips please Message-ID: Paul Sture writes: > I've got SIMH emulating a VAX on my OS X system. [snip] > 2. how to get back to the console prompt from VMS. ^P doesn't work. > 3. how to get back out of SIMH to the command prompt Now that we know that questions 2 & 3 are linked... SimH has a "processor register" called WRU that represents the interrupt character for returning to SimH from the simulated system. It defaults to 005 (^E), which is deadly for Tops-20 since all privileged commands in EXEC start with that character, so the first line in my init/command files for the KS10 emulator is deposit WRU 034 to get the ^\ proper to the KL10 and KS10 (and follow-ons). You can change your VAX setup the same way. And using ^C to exit the simulator is probably a bad idea, as filesystems may get left in an inconsistent state. Escape to the prompt and exit. -- Rich Alderson | /"\ ASCII ribbon | news@alderson.users.panix.com | \ / campaign against | "You get what anybody gets. You get a lifetime." | x HTML mail and | --Death, of the Endless | / \ postings | ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 14:26:02 -0800 From: "David B Sneddon" Subject: Re: SIMH hints and tips please Message-ID: <1168295162.229838.40670@s80g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Jan 8, 6:32 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article <1168214304.211716.87...@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "David B Sneddon" writes: > > > >I have had it working for a while now... DECnet, IP & LAT > >work just fine. > > Do you have a pre-built executable I could try? I do, but I don't think it will be of much use unless you have installed the correct version of libpcap. Once you have that, it will build fine from the kit. > > -- > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM You are also aware that you need to run it via sudo so that you have sufficient privilege to put the interface into promiscuous mode? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 23:35:51 +0100 From: Paul Sture Subject: Re: SIMH hints and tips please Message-ID: In article <45a2971f.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>, martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender) wrote: > Paul Sture wrote: > > "David B Sneddon" wrote: > >> "Galen" wrote: > >> > What version of OS X are you running? My guess would be 10.4.x? I was > >> > never able to get networking to fly on my 10.3.9 system. > >> > >> Yes it is 10.4.x. I did have it running once on a > >> 10.3.x system but then changes were made to simh > >> and it broke :-( > > > > Do you need a second NIC to get the networking going? > > No. SimH uses the pcap library which puts the network card into > promisuous mode and sorts out packets for the emulator's MAC address. > Not very effective but cheap... > Thanks. Do the comments in the SIMH FAQ about wireless cards not being able to use DECNET Phase IV (or Phase V in compatibility mode) also apply with the pcap library? -- Paul Sture ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 00:59:17 +0100 From: Paul Sture Subject: Re: SIMH hints and tips please Message-ID: In article , Rich Alderson wrote: > Paul Sture writes: > > > I've got SIMH emulating a VAX on my OS X system. > > [snip] > > > 2. how to get back to the console prompt from VMS. ^P doesn't work. > > > 3. how to get back out of SIMH to the command prompt > > Now that we know that questions 2 & 3 are linked... > > SimH has a "processor register" called WRU that represents the interrupt > character for returning to SimH from the simulated system. It defaults > to 005 (^E), which is deadly for Tops-20 since all privileged commands in > EXEC start with that character, so the first line in my init/command files > for the KS10 emulator is > > deposit WRU 034 > > to get the ^\ proper to the KL10 and KS10 (and follow-ons). > > You can change your VAX setup the same way. > After using 'deposit WRU 034' : The good news- CTRL-E no longer drops me to the sim> prompt. The Bad news - typing a "4" drops me to the sim> prompt. :-( -- Paul Sture ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 05:15:49 +0100 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender) Subject: Re: SIMH hints and tips please Message-ID: <45a316f5.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de> Paul Sture wrote: > martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender) wrote: >> Paul Sture wrote: >> > Do you need a second NIC to get the networking going? >> >> No. SimH uses the pcap library which puts the network card into >> promisuous mode and sorts out packets for the emulator's MAC address. > > Thanks. Do the comments in the SIMH FAQ about wireless cards not being > able to use DECNET Phase IV (or Phase V in compatibility mode) also > apply with the pcap library? I haven't yet used WLAN with SIMH. Thanks for the pointer, though (got to skim over the docs more often, I guess). As all SIMH networking (I know of) uses libpcap, I'd think the WLAN restrictions hold for that, too. One other restriction of libpcap is that the simulated machine can't talk to its host system over the "real" ethernet card (unless it loops back to a second NIC on the host). The workaround is to use a TAP device to set up a second, virtual ethernet for that connection. cu, Martin -- OpenVMS: | Martin Vorlaender | OpenVMS rules! The operating system | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de God runs the | http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ earth simulation on. | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jan 2007 05:47:21 GMT From: "Dave Weatherall" Subject: Re: SIMH hints and tips please Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 21:26:31 UTC, Rich Alderson wrote: > Paul Sture writes: > > > I've got SIMH emulating a VAX on my OS X system. > > [snip] > > > 2. how to get back to the console prompt from VMS. ^P doesn't work. > > > 3. how to get back out of SIMH to the command prompt > > Now that we know that questions 2 & 3 are linked... > > SimH has a "processor register" called WRU that represents the interrupt > character for returning to SimH from the simulated system. It defaults > to 005 (^E), which is deadly for Tops-20 since all privileged commands in > EXEC start with that character, so the first line in my init/command files > for the KS10 emulator is > > deposit WRU 034 > > to get the ^\ proper to the KL10 and KS10 (and follow-ons). > > You can change your VAX setup the same way. > > And using ^C to exit the simulator is probably a bad idea, as filesystems may > get left in an inconsistent state. Escape to the prompt and exit. Thanks for that Rich. Like Paul, I use ANSI Ctrl-E line editing commands a lot!! -- Cheers - Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jan 2007 05:47:23 GMT From: "Dave Weatherall" Subject: Re: SIMH hints and tips please Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 23:59:17 UTC, Paul Sture wrote: > In article , > Rich Alderson wrote: > > > Paul Sture writes: > > > > > I've got SIMH emulating a VAX on my OS X system. > > > > [snip] > > > > > 2. how to get back to the console prompt from VMS. ^P doesn't work. > > > > > 3. how to get back out of SIMH to the command prompt > > > > Now that we know that questions 2 & 3 are linked... > > > > SimH has a "processor register" called WRU that represents the interrupt > > character for returning to SimH from the simulated system. It defaults > > to 005 (^E), which is deadly for Tops-20 since all privileged commands in > > EXEC start with that character, so the first line in my init/command files > > for the KS10 emulator is > > > > deposit WRU 034 > > > > to get the ^\ proper to the KL10 and KS10 (and follow-ons). > > > > You can change your VAX setup the same way. > > > > After using 'deposit WRU 034' : > > The good news- CTRL-E no longer drops me to the sim> prompt. > > The Bad news - typing a "4" drops me to the sim> prompt. > > :-( > Paul that sounds like you've entered 34 (decimal) and not 034 (octal), which is what I thinkl Rich intended. Maybe it's a function of default radix. I haven't time to check tho' I'm afraid. -- Cheers - Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 21:03:16 GMT From: Hans Bachner Subject: Re: SYSMAN suggestion: SET ENV /CLUSTER /EXCLUDE= Message-ID: Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: > In article , Hans Bachner > writes: > >> The suggestion to use logical names for node lists has problems when not >> all nodes in the cluster are running - the missing node is assumed to be >> a remote node outside the cluster which needs to be accessed over the >> network. > > You can execute the procedure to (re)define the node lists before firing > up SYSMAN. Sure, but that's an extra step compared to an /EXCLUDE qualifier. I also appreciate the /SIZE qualifier of the DIRECTORY command, though I could get the information with /FULL as well :-) Hans. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:23:31 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: <45a2fc9f$0$49197$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> David J Dachtera wrote: > Bill Gunshannon wrote: >> In article <459B1E24.D49B3A76@spam.comcast.net>, >> David J Dachtera writes: >>> Read up on HIPAA and, to some extent, Sarb/Ox. >> Both of them specify behaviours. Neither of them specifically bans the >> use of any commercial product by name. > > ...which rather like saying that marijuana is a controlled substance, but > "Acapulco Gold (Filter, Regular and Menthol)" is not. No - just the opposite. It is the substance not the brand that counts. > More specifically, HIPAA requires, among other things, that privacy be > protected. So, software which cannot guarantee the protection of privacy would > be excluded by both definition and implication, regardless of the "brand name". Yes - which is why MS will not be banned. >> That would be "Unfair restraint >> of trade". You are making an interpretation basec on your (erroneous) >> concept that it is impossible to secure an MS systems or application. > > This is not "erroneous". It is, as we all know, profusely documented. Not so. A million usenet posts does not count. Can you point to an official document saying so ? >> Sorry, the government may allow other options but they are never going >> to be allowed to ban MS products. > > The information cited by the O.P. seems to contradict that. Not so. HTML emails was banned. No MS product was banned. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:25:27 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: <45a2fd12$0$49197$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> AEF wrote: > Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> AEF wrote: >>> Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>>> Now the MIS departments has tightened security. >>> You mean like requiring 6-character passwords to now be "complex"? >>> Yeah, that'll stop 'em!!! ;-) >>> >>> OK, maybe they're actually doing some more useful things. >> More as in: >> min 8 characters >> min 1 uppercase >> min 1 lowercase >> min 1 digit >> min 1 punctuation >> >> Or as in email scanners that removes all EXE, BAT etc. from attached >> ZIP files in inbound email. > > It turns out that you get a lot more bang for the buck by requiring > longer passwords. Complex passwords are not that much harder to crack. Since you have already demonstrated that you do not have a clue about what is happening security wise, then there are no need for you to try and explain about anything security related. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 03:43:31 +0100 From: Paul Sture Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: In article <45a2fc9f$0$49197$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > Not so. > > HTML emails was banned. No MS product was banned. Referring back to the original article at "Due to an increased network threat condition, the Defense Department is blocking all HTML-based e-mail messages and has banned the use of Outlook Web Access e-mail applications..." I'm not exactly sure what they mean by "Outlook Web Access e-mail applications", but that sounds like at least one MS product to me. -- Paul Sture ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 03:14:15 GMT From: John Santos Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: Paul Sture wrote: > In article <45a2fc9f$0$49197$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, > Arne Vajhøj wrote: > > >>Not so. >> >>HTML emails was banned. No MS product was banned. > > > Referring back to the original article at > > > > "Due to an increased network threat condition, the Defense Department is > blocking all HTML-based e-mail messages and has banned the use of > Outlook Web Access e-mail applications..." > > I'm not exactly sure what they mean by "Outlook Web Access e-mail > applications", but that sounds like at least one MS product to me. > Not necessarily. Outlook has all this stuff built into it for collaborative applications. (I've never used it, so I don't know how it works, whether it is built in, or a set of tools you call from your own app that use outlook to exchange messages, or something you script using some scripting language built into outlook.) It sounds to me that this is what is being banned: these applications (or possibly only a web-based variant of these apps), and not Outlook as a mail client per se. -- John Santos Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539 ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 17:37:42 -0600 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: Windoze CD/DVD burning software and OpenVMS long file names Message-ID: In article , Paul Sture writes: > mkisofs has the option "Allow full 31 character filenames for ISO9600 > names", which gets around the 8.3 limitation, but still truncates longer > filenames. If the resulting disc can be processed by VMS, then it is not ISO-9660 compliant (long story). ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 22:33:32 GMT From: Hans Bachner Subject: Re: [ODS2_WIN32] Reading ODS2/ODS5 CDs/volumes on Win32/Win64? Message-ID: Paul Sture wrote: > Unfamiliar with this program (so far), can I assume that it only reads > CDs? IOW, can it mount other disks or even plain container files such > as an ODS2 image sitting on disk? From the readme file: What commands are supported? A summary is:- mount DRIVE:[,DRIVE:...] directory [/file|/size|/date] [FILE-SPEC] copy FILE-SPEC OUTPUT-FILE dismount DRIVE: search FILE-SPEC STRING set default DIR-SPEC show default show time exit Note - DRIVE: is normally the native system drive name, for example D: might be a CD on a PC - xxx: might be /dev/xxx on a Unix system. - when a list of drives is specified on the mount command they are assumed to contain a single valid volume set (this is not validated!!) - file-spec is in the usual VMS syntax and may contain wildcards (for example A:[-.*obj%%...]*abc*.obj;-2) I've only used it with CD-ROMs and floppies so far, but it should work with disks as well. The utility is restricted to sequential files, however. Regarding ODS2 images - the sources are in the .zip file and could probably be extended to read images as well :-) Hans. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.017 ************************