INFO-VAX Tue, 09 Jan 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 18 Contents: Re: "reverse pathworks" ? Re: Alternatives to HP maintenance Re: Dec VWS Internals ? Re: Dec VWS Internals ? Re: Disk for a Multia Re: Disk for a Multia Re: new daylight savings time question... Open VMS 7.1 - System Maintenance Re: OpenVMS Licence for people in Asia Re: US Military bans HTML in emails ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Jan 2007 04:55:04 -0800 From: "mb301@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: "reverse pathworks" ? Message-ID: <1168347304.865910.72770@m30g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Pierre wrote: > hi, > > with pathworks (ou SAMBA) I can access OVMS file from a PC. is there a > way to reverse this process and access PC files from OVMS ? > > TIA, > Pierre. Have you heard of a product called "LANutil32" for OpenVMS it allow you to copy/get files from PC. Example- $ landir \\my_pc\sharename%\ntusername:ntpassword Volume <\\my_pc\> has no label. Directory of \\my_pc\ autoexec.dat config.sys . . To put a file or .bat procedure. $ create fred.bat cd \ echo "hello" ^z $ lanput fred.bat \\my_pc\sharename%\ntusername:ntpassword Works from VAX/VMS V5.5-2 though to OpenVMS 7.3-2. I don't believe they are devloping the product any more. Also the paswords are sent in clear text. http://www.vector-networks.com/index.php Regards Mark ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jan 2007 23:45:33 -0800 From: "Milton" Subject: Re: Alternatives to HP maintenance Message-ID: <1168328732.927062.276980@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Hi David I have used Neil Ramsey from K-Tec in Sydney, they are also full of ex DEC people and still still/support Alphas for large commercial entities. Also long time DECUS/Encompass supporters. Cheers David B Sneddon wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Due to the recent decline in the level of service by HP and > after the very recent absolutely abyssmal handling of a > simple hardware support call by HP, I am looking for > alternative suppliers of hardware (and software) maintenance > in Australia (Perth on the west coast). > Does anyone here know of other suppliers who are willing > to support Alphaservers and associated peripherals and > possibly also software in Australia? > Any good/bad experiences? > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:59:59 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Dec VWS Internals ? Message-ID: <45a3835a$0$14665$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> FredK wrote: > There were a few times I thought about doing it... but if I did that, then > I'd feel compelled to add things back in like the window control OSC > sequences, and before you know it I'd be spending all my free time on > DECterm. DECterm is a pretty critical piece of VMS. As a hobbysist, I cannot demand improvements, but I think that it would do VMS a lot of good to see some improvements to DECTERM. (display control characters would be very appreciated. TPU can do it, DECterm should be able to do it) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 14:26:14 +0000 (UTC) From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Subject: Re: Dec VWS Internals ? Message-ID: "FredK" writes: >"Michael Moroney" wrote in message >news:enuc3e$e2f$1@pcls4.std.com... >> I think that was it. It was this (real) icon that used the tiny font, and >> the normal uniconizing that switched to the normal font. There have been >> a few times when I wished DECWindows had that. >There were a few times I thought about doing it... but if I did that, then >I'd feel compelled to add things back in like the window control OSC >sequences, and before you know it I'd be spending all my free time on >DECterm. Actually all that would be necessary would be the font itself and a way to select a font, window by window from one of the pulldown menus window by window. Actually, I see it's there, I can just change the "little font" in the options/window menu. Although the OSC sequence would be nice :-) Aside, is there a way to convert Windoze fonts to be usable by DECwindows? Probably in the FAQ, off to look... ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jan 2007 00:32:15 -0800 From: "H Vlems" Subject: Re: Disk for a Multia Message-ID: <1168331535.742163.83640@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com> slawmaster@gmail.com schreef: > Hi everyone > > I'm here in Rochester, NY with a new (to me) Alpha-based multia, but no > hard drive. Is there anyone nearby with a drive to spare? I would > prefer to be able to just pick one up from somebody in town, but I > could also arrange for shipping if someone else in the States has a > drive. > > On a similar note, any suggestions for installing VMS on a Multia? I've > gathered that, while possible, it can be difficult. > > Thanks > > > John John, are you looking for an internal drive or an external drive? The internal, Toshiba built drives are 500 MB only. That's enough to run VMS on but might appear somewhat tight, depending on what you want to do with it. I have a spare Toshiba, but shipping it across the Atlantic may cost more than it's worth. Installing VMS on the Multia is not very difficult. Provided you have an expansion cabinet with a CDrom drive and/or a disk with VMS media on it. And a VGA display, pc style keyboard and mouse, there's no serial line support. It is essential that you upgrade the console firmware. There's a ZIP (or gz) file available on several websites or the VMS freeware CD's. Create a FAT32 floppy with it. Note that it contains two files for upgrading the console firmware as well as VMS drivers and a readme file. Follow those instructions. Not difficult, just do what the instructions tell you to do. Next, install VMS as usual. Now there's no offical VMS support for the Multia and the kit only supports VMS 7.1-2 and 7.2 IIRC. I didn't have those, just 7.3 so I used that instead. Somewhere during the installation procedure VMS wants to install the PCSI kit with Multia specific drivers. That fails to install owing to a VMS version mismatch. However V7.3 does boot on the Multia and VT52 style login is possible. I copied the drivers from the floppy to the appropriate directory on the internal disk. Rebooted and everything worked fine. Well, almostly: my Multia came with 40MB and that's simply not enough. Memory from a dead AS1000A did fit and it now happily runs VMS V7.3 in 256 MB. But not fast, compared to, say, an Alpha Server 1200. Good luck, Hans ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jan 2007 01:40:52 -0800 From: "Ian Miller" Subject: Re: Disk for a Multia Message-ID: <1168335651.938881.212980@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> The VMS FAQ has relevant information http://hoffmanlabs.org/vmsfaq/index.shtml ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jan 2007 04:21:05 -0800 From: mckinneyj@saic.com Subject: Re: new daylight savings time question... Message-ID: <1168345264.057735.23620@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Joe Bloggs wrote: > On 8 Jan 2007 14:07:21 -0800, magalettac@hotmail.com wrote: > > > I installed the following 3 patches on my test Alpha to take care of > >the new time > > change edict that the energy policy act of 2005 enacts. The patches > >were installed cleanly as noted I then disabled dtss and set the time > >to 11-mar-2007:1:59:00 to test the rollover (nothing happened ? I tried > >a couple of different steps with enabling and disabling dtss and still > >nothing > >happened, should the new timezone file have kicked in and made the > >clock go forward by an hour ? > > > >Any information is apprieciated.... > > Things to try (some of what follows may be specific to Alpha 7.3-2, > and/or later VMS versions ...) > > Check that AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is set to 1 > (no longer a dynamic sysgen param, unfortunately) > > $ mcr sysgen HELP SYS_PAR AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV > Sys_Parameters > AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV > AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is set to either 1 or 0. The default is 0. > > If AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is set to 1, OpenVMS automatically makes the > change to and from daylight saving time. > > > After changing the time to March '2007, try: > > $ @sys$manager:utc$time_setup "" RULE > > then take a look at > > $ show logical SYS$TIME* > > in particular, look at SYS$TIMEZONE_RULE, > > iirc, the 'old' (pre-2007) timezone rule > looks approximately like so, > > ,M4.1.0/02,M10.4.0/02 > > and the new one > ,M3.2.0/02,M11.1.0/02 > > > [...] The JOB_CONTROL process reads the timezone rule and schedules the time change event when it starts up. In order to inform it that the rule has changed and that the time change event need occur at a different time you can 'STOP/ID' the running JOB_CONTROL and then restart it using '@SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP JOBCTL' (perhaps from your SYSTEM account). Of course, this would all occur during any reboot as well. ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jan 2007 10:34:01 -0800 From: "Andrew Butchart" Subject: Open VMS 7.1 - System Maintenance Message-ID: <1168367640.950860.266440@k58g2000hse.googlegroups.com> We're continuing to have weird problems with our overnight processes. As was suggested by the Group, we installed the patch to queue manager. This didn't seem to have any benefit, but at least didn't break anything. I also added an anal/disk/repair to the jobs just before the daily backups. After some re-coding to not use the SYNC statement in the batch jobs, the new problem is that a job will get stuck running LOGINOUT. We have also had this problem intermittantly with user processes but that may or may not be related. I have noticed that when running ana/disk that the pagefile is always reported (see below). Is that normal? %ANALDISK-I-BADHIGHWATER, file (4098,255,1) PAGEFILE.SYS;1 inconsistent highwater mark and EFBLK Additionally, with page files, I see that I have one on each disk. Is that necessary, or can I move them around? Is there anyway to rebuild a damaged one, if that may be my problem? We also believe that our drives are quite fragmented. Are there any utilities, perhaps on the old DECUS CDs that could reliable do a de-fragment? I'm familiar with the old "copy everything off and then back on" method, but that's pretty slow and requires us to shut everything down. We have all of Sundays that we could lock the system down if necessary. What is the experience of others in the wild? Do you find that a defragement is necessary on a fairly busy system? Thanks again AndrewB andrew@floatingbear.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:25:07 +0100 From: Michael Unger Subject: Re: OpenVMS Licence for people in Asia Message-ID: <50h88jF1g65jnU1@mid.individual.net> On 2007-01-09 06:07, "davidc@montagar.com" wrote: > [...] > > As for using .NET, unless you tell VIsual Studio to not include the > /CLR compiler option, everything is compiled as "Managed Code" and > requires the .NET runtimes. Same C/C++ code, but results in either > ..NET or regular object code. Same code base on other systems will > compile just fine into normal object code. Is there *any* advantage using .NET? > [...] I didn't test the Windows XP version of Charon-VAX at all -- due to the download size and the .NET issue (.NET seems to be as buggy as other MS products requiring lots of hotfixes ...) Michael -- Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:13:24 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: In article , John Santos writes: >Paul Sture wrote: >> In article <45a2fc9f$0$49197$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, >> Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> >> >>>Not so. >>> >>>HTML emails was banned. No MS product was banned. >> >> >> Referring back to the original article at >> >> >> >> "Due to an increased network threat condition, the Defense Department is >> blocking all HTML-based e-mail messages and has banned the use of >> Outlook Web Access e-mail applications..." >> >> I'm not exactly sure what they mean by "Outlook Web Access e-mail >> applications", but that sounds like at least one MS product to me. >> > >Not necessarily. Outlook has all this stuff built into it for collaborative >applications. (I've never used it, so I don't know how it works, whether it >is built in, or a set of tools you call from your own app that use outlook to >exchange messages, or something you script using some scripting language built >into outlook.) It sounds to me that this is what is being banned: these >applications (or possibly only a web-based variant of these apps), and not >Outlook as a mail client per se. > Outlook Web Access (OWA) is a web front end to Exchange. It allows someone to access Exchange using a browser (works best with IE but can work with other browsers). David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University > >-- >John Santos >Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. >781-861-0670 ext 539 ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.018 ************************