INFO-VAX Sat, 03 Feb 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 67 Contents: Anyone have a copy of the DCL book they'd part with? Re: Anyone have a copy of the DCL book they'd part with? Change sys$specific:[tcpip$smtp] directory to another disk Re: Change sys$specific:[tcpip$smtp] directory to another disk Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Re: VMS Audio Update Episode 4 posted VMS Update (big one) Re: You gotta see this ! [TCPIP V5.4] SSH/sFTP client socks support? [VMS V7.3-2] CTERM Problems after patch install Re: [VMS V7.3-2] CTERM Problems after patch install ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:12:04 -0800 From: DeanW Subject: Anyone have a copy of the DCL book they'd part with? Message-ID: <3f119ada0702021212w3a666c6bm2554d201c8aad770@mail.gmail.com> I gave my copy of "Writing Real Programs in DCL" to a geographically remote co-worker, figuring I'd just pick up another copy. That book turns out to be unobtanium. Does anyone have an extra copy that I might be able to purchase, or know where there is one? -- Dean Woodward =o&o dean.woodward@gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:01:55 -0500 From: "Neil Rieck" Subject: Re: Anyone have a copy of the DCL book they'd part with? Message-ID: <45c3dd24$0$7434$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> "DeanW" wrote in message news:3f119ada0702021212w3a666c6bm2554d201c8aad770@mail.gmail.com... >I gave my copy of "Writing Real Programs in DCL" to a geographically > remote co-worker, figuring I'd just pick up another copy. That book > turns out to be unobtanium. > > Does anyone have an extra copy that I might be able to purchase, or > know where there is one? > Try the following URL: http://www.bookfinder.com then click the top link after you do a title search. Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2007 11:22:40 -0800 From: miguelward@gmail.com Subject: Change sys$specific:[tcpip$smtp] directory to another disk Message-ID: <1170444160.072711.325120@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Hi: Our corporate mail runs on OpenVms, some users on 6.2 and some on 7.3. To avoid sys$sysdevice disk trashing I wanted to move the smtp directory To another disk. On Vms 6.2 this was a piece of cake, I just changed ucx$smtp home's directory and voila. On Vms 7.3 I did then same, changing tcpip$smtp home's directory but nothing happened. Then I found TCPIP$SYSTEM:TCPIP$SMTP_RECV_RUN.COM with some convoluted vms sentences which also included a sd to sys$specific:[tcpip$smtp] which I promptly commented out. To be on the safe side stopped and restarted smtp service but still no change. In same procedure I then forced the directory but no luck What am I missing. Any suggestions? Thanks Miguel Ward mward at aluar.com.ar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:10:07 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Change sys$specific:[tcpip$smtp] directory to another disk Message-ID: <54de9$45c39aa9$cef8887a$31188@TEKSAVVY.COM> miguelward@gmail.com wrote: > On Vms 6.2 this was a piece of cake, I just changed ucx$smtp home's > directory and voila. > > On Vms 7.3 I did then same, changing tcpip$smtp home's directory but > nothing happened. Have you changed the logical TCPIP$SMTP_COMMON ? I haven't checked how this can officially be done so that in the system startup, it points to the right directory. But I just looked at the tcpip$smtp_receiver.exe file and it doesn't seem to have specific recerences to a directory and does have the tcpip$smtp_common string in it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:39:24 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Message-ID: Neil Rieck wrote: > I just hope that when this happened, the back room boys in OpenVMS > engineering will announce to the world that they have been doing stealth > ports of OpenVMS to x86-64 for the past few years just in case. It used to be that Mr Dachtera was the sole voice valling for VMS to be ported to the industry standard architecture. (Just to get Mr Froble's heart pumping, I'll say 8086 !!!). When AMD announced 64 bit 8086s, it became apparent that Intel would have to follow suit, and that was the end of IA64. I also jumped into that ship and started to call for VMS to be ported to 64 bit 8086s. People can dismiss one or two voices. But there are now more people willing to risk being seen agreeing with me and calling for such a port. And the more people start to agree that VMS would greatly benefit from being ported to that architecture, the fater other people will also see the light and jump into that bandwagon. The trend is that more and more people are seeing VMS' future relying on the the real industry standard platform. You can ignore one or two individuals. But can you ignore a trend ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:20:45 GMT From: Tad Winters Subject: Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote in news:edaf4$45c3bda6$cef8887a$4324@TEKSAVVY.COM: > Neil Rieck wrote: >> I just hope that when this happened, the back room boys in OpenVMS >> engineering will announce to the world that they have been doing >> stealth ports of OpenVMS to x86-64 for the past few years just in >> case. > > > It used to be that Mr Dachtera was the sole voice valling for VMS to > be ported to the industry standard architecture. (Just to get Mr > Froble's heart pumping, I'll say 8086 !!!). > > When AMD announced 64 bit 8086s, it became apparent that Intel would > have to follow suit, and that was the end of IA64. I also jumped into > that ship and started to call for VMS to be ported to 64 bit 8086s. > > People can dismiss one or two voices. > > But there are now more people willing to risk being seen agreeing with > me and calling for such a port. And the more people start to agree > that VMS would greatly benefit from being ported to that architecture, > the fater other people will also see the light and jump into that > bandwagon. > > The trend is that more and more people are seeing VMS' future relying > on the the real industry standard platform. > > > You can ignore one or two individuals. But can you ignore a trend ? > Though I just don't get the "industry standard architecture" thing, I can't say I argue with the idea of VMS being owned by Intel. Hey, I might even benefit by getting a job, since I live in the Portland area. It would be interesting to see what would happen if HP were to suddenly prefer AMD for all their PCs until Intel fully embraced Itanium... but that may be a bit too drastic, huh? When in college, I was in a class that made some processor comparison and it was quite clear the 8086 line was a rather inferior processor compared to the Motorola 68000 series. I'm sure it's come a long way, but since the Alpha was dropped, it makes me wonder how many times inferior has won because of marketing, current market penetration, compatibility with some existing and popular item, etc. With that said, what about the idea of a virtual Alpha processor? I know, really slow for VMS, but if the choice was no VMS or VMS on a virtual Alpha, I'll take the virtual Alpha. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:50:50 -0500 From: "Neil Rieck" Subject: Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Message-ID: <45c3da8b$0$7449$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:edaf4$45c3bda6$cef8887a$4324@TEKSAVVY.COM... [...snip...] > > > It used to be that Mr Dachtera was the sole voice valling for VMS to be > ported to the industry standard architecture. (Just to get Mr Froble's > heart pumping, I'll say 8086 !!!). > Sacrilege! > > When AMD announced 64 bit 8086s, it became apparent that Intel would have > to follow suit, and that was the end of IA64. I also jumped into that ship > and started to call for VMS to be ported to 64 bit 8086s. > I started to become a convert when I learned last year that "EM64T" was a true 64 bit computer (I had been erroneously told that it was just a 64 address extension). But I totally gave in to the dark-side last Fall when quad-cores were announced at IDF along with the mention of an experimental 80-core product they are working on to develop some future products. That's when I realized it was "GAME OVER" for Itanium. p.s. BTW, has anyone ever picked up the book "In Search Of Stupidity: Over Twenty Years Of High Tech Marketing Disasters". One of the central themes involves large companies with one division competing against another. I can't help thinking that some day someone in upper management at Intel is going to pick up this book and then kill off the Itanium division. Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:57:11 -0500 From: "Neil Rieck" Subject: Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Message-ID: <45c3dc07$0$7473$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> "Bill Todd" wrote in message news:56KdnW1CNsajXF7YnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@metrocastcablevision.com... > JF Mezei wrote: > > ... > >> The trend is that more and more people are seeing VMS' future relying on >> the the real industry standard platform. > > The trend (a very constant one over at least a dozen years now) is that > fewer and fewer people are seeing VMS as having any significant future at > all. The possibility that an increasing percentage of this diminishing > group of Pollyannas may be embracing the idea that it should be ported > somewhere or other is of just about zero significance. > > - bill I hear ya. But if OpenVMS is trapped on Itanium when Intel pulls out the rug, I'll be forced to develop software on LINUX, Solaris, or (shudder) Windows. p.s. do I type "cron -e" or "$submit"? Yikes, I should have gone into a different profession. Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 01:50:25 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Intel prepares to kill off the Pentium 4 Message-ID: Tad Winters wrote: > Maybe I'm dense. I thought standards were defined by independent bodies, > not by common use. "Industry standard" is marketing gobbledeegook. IT rules by marketing. The 8086 rules because IBM used its marketing and image muscle to impose that platform as standard, and Microsoft continues to make that platform grow and end up the default "standard". And because it is available from multiple sources, there is competition that drives prices down as well as performance up. And that is how the lowly 8086s grew beyond each barrier, going to 32 bits, and now at 64 bits and is soon to get a high performance system interface that will allow it to scale to large machines. When you look at how the media reports on HP, it isn't on how many half filled expensive ink cartridges were sold, it is how many industry standard computers were shipped and this is compared against Dell and others. To HP, that is what counts. That is what the projections are made on, and to a wall-street-casino listed company, this is the bible. Miss your projections and your stock thumbles down. So when push comes to shove, meeting 8086 machine projections is priority. That is what the marketing is made for. IA64 has been on life support since before Merced. Intel admitted it isn't making money with it. The only reason it is still alive is contractual obligations. As soon as those run out, sayonara to IA64. While you can dismiss my interpretations of the lack of future for IA64, you cannot ignore media comments over the years of IA64 not being the success Intel had promised it would be. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2007 14:24:42 -0800 From: "Ian Miller" Subject: Re: VMS Audio Update Episode 4 posted Message-ID: <1170455082.112624.306130@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Professional recording experience is not required. Just a willingness to have a go and a desire to contribute something. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2007 19:41:25 -0800 From: "Sue" Subject: VMS Update (big one) Message-ID: <1170474085.344360.279620@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Dear Newsgroup, Well we have an excellent update this time with loads of information for you, which I know you enjoy. There is a lot of information and announcements from OpenVMS Engineering that is not to be missed. Warm Regards, Sue 1=2E0 Sue's FAV's New VMS Audio Update now avaialble Site for the Storage Essentials Software suite VMS Technical Journal New Golden Eggs 2=2E0 Time Sensive Parsec training Encompass Canada (new Speakers added - You need to register for this) 3=2E0 From Engineering OpenVMS LDAP Authentication Patch Kits Announcing the HP Web Services Integration Toolkit (WSIT) V1.2 for OpenVMS Alpha and Integrity Announcing the availability of HP Distributed NetBeans Version T5.0 Field Test 2 for OpenVMS Alpha and OpenVMS Integrity Announcing JDK/JRE 5.0-2 for OpenVMS on HP Integrity servers for Java Platform Announcing HP C and C++ T7.3 compiler field test for OpenVMS Alpha and Integrity. GNV Version 2.1 with Symbolic Links Support for OpenVMS Alpha and I64 Version 8.3 is ready for download! 4=2E0 From our Partners PointSecure provides enhanced security monitoring & reporting for OpenVMS systems Tdi Announces OpenVMS Management Suite Brilliant Systems is pleased to announce new features to its flagship Quintara web-based e-mail 5=2E0 In the Press __________________________________________ 1=2E0 Sue's FAV's 4=2E0 of the VMS Audio Update is now Available and it is great make sure you take time to listen to it http://www.openvms.org/pages.php? page=3DVPN OpenVMS description in Wikiedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS Here is a site for the Storage Essentials Software Suite: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12191_na/12191_na.HTML OpenVMS Technical Journal call for participation - If you would like to write an article for the June issue please submit an abstract by Feb 23rd your article will be due by May 11th. Here is the URL for submitting an article http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/journal/ cfp.html the last issue has received over 5,000 views in the first week since it was published. http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/journal/ index.html New Golden Eggs from Matti http://goldeneggs.spyderbyte.com/geggs/GErx2660x.pdf http://goldeneggs.spyderbyte.com/geggs/GTMSA30MIb.pdf ___________________________________________ 2=2E0 Time Sensitive PARSEC Group has availability for the following training classes in Denver, CO: HB518S OpenVMS System, Network & Internet Security - February 19-23, 2007 U3727S OpenVMS System Performance Management - February 19-23, 2007 U3716S OpenVMS Fundamentals - February 26 thru March 2, 2007 U3702S hp Tru64 UNIX TruCluster Configuration & Management - February 26 thru March 2, 2007 Please note: Training with PARSEC is also available on-site at your company location or through e-Learning (participate with the Denver training class at your company location). 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These k= its contain an LDAP authentication agent that allows for login and password-change requests to be directed to any LDAP V3 compliant directory server. These patch kits have been rigorously tested and are qualified for use in production environments. Once the kit is installed, detailed information on how to configure the system can be found in SYS $HELP:ACME_DEV_README.TXT and release notes found at SYS$HELP:VMS83x_ACMELDAP-V0100.RELEASE_NOTES ---------------------------------- Announcing the HP Web Services Integration Toolkit (WSIT) V1.2 for OpenVMS Alpha and Integrity. WSIT was designed to call non-Java applications from Java applications. To learn more about WSIT go to: http:// h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/wsit/ Announcing the availability of HP Distributed NetBeans Version T5.0 Field Test 2 for OpenVMS Alpha and OpenVMS Integrity. Distributed NetBeans allows desktops such as Windows, Linux and HP-UX to be used for OpenVMS remote development. For more information or to download the Distributed NetBeans T5.0 FT2 kit, please visit http:// www.hp.com/products/openvms/distributednetbeans/ Announcing JDK/JRE 5.0-2 for OpenVMS on HP Integrity servers for Java Platform Based on Sun Microsystems' Java 2 Platform Standard Edition (J2SE), this release passes all the tests in Sun's Java Compatibility Kit test suite. Share this with your licensed OpenVMS Integrity server customers, as they are entitled to download HP software for the Java Platform at no cost, subject to the product's Software Licensing Terms and Conditions. To download this latest software, visit the Java Technology Software (OpenVMS and Tru64=E2=84=A2 UNIX=C2=AE) website. http://h18012.www1.hp.com/= java/ alpha/ Announcing HP C and C++ T7.3 compiler field test for OpenVMS Alpha and Integrity. You are invited to participate in the HP C and C++ T7.3 for OpenVMS Alpha and Integrity customer field test. To learn more visit the C and C++ for OpenVMS websites: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/commercial/cplus/c_cpp_t73_ft_announcement.html GNV Version 2.1 with Symbolic Links Support for OpenVMS Alpha and I64 Version 8.3 is ready for download! HP is please to announce the availability of GNV V2.1 for OpenVMS V8.3 customers. GNV (GNU's Not VMS) is an open source, GNU-based UNIX environment for OpenVMS that provides UNIX application developers a UNIX-style environment on OpenVMS. GNV Version 2.1 addresses issues that some OpenVMS V8.3 customers observed when trying to remove GNV V2.0 from their OpenVMS V8.3 systems. OpenVMS engineering is developing a GNV V1.9 kit for installation on OpenVMS systems prior to V8.3 that does not have symbolic links support. 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Message-ID: <45c3accc@news.langstoeger.at> In article <12s6qtn5cmquk93@news.supernews.com>, "Island Computers, D B Turner" writes: >Was there ever a marketed ALpha EV1 Chip? No. It started with EV4, named after the CMOS4 process which was helped to complete by the technical university of vienna (siegfried selberherr and his team) just for the alpha processor. A EV3 chip before was never shipped (or produced in mass)... That's how I remember 1992 and IIRC, the central (clock) transistor had 15000um -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2007 22:52:26 +0100 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) Subject: [TCPIP V5.4] SSH/sFTP client socks support? Message-ID: <45c3c0aa$1@news.langstoeger.at> Ok, I haven't RTFM so far, but nevertheless I ask now: Do you know, if the SSH & SFTP client of TCPIP V5.4 (ECO 6) supports a socks proxy on its way to the server (or do I have to use PuTTY/PSFTP where I know it works, because I've already done it)? Or do I have to upgrade TCPIP to a more current TCPIP version? TIA -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2007 22:29:43 +0100 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) Subject: [VMS V7.3-2] CTERM Problems after patch install Message-ID: <45c3bb57$1@news.langstoeger.at> We recently installed (after a whole year !) a set (about 6) of ECOs (IIRC UPDATE V8 and a few others - I'm at home, so I haven't specifics now) and introduced problems with CTERM sessions (just as before on the test machines - CTERM problems are treated as meaningless for the business, most of users do TELNET, and a few are now able to use SSH. and it seems, I'm the only one really upset by this) Behaviour is that CTERM sessions behave like regularly being swapped out. I mean, if I pause my work for say 10 seconds or less, my process takes a whole 4 (!) seconds to start responding again. This is very frustrating in say an EDIT session... Installing latest ECOs (like UPDATE 9 and successrors) or upgrade to V8.2 (or V8.3) is unfortunately out of scope (qualification of ECOs for production takes too long, and our application still doesn't run on the TCPIP scalable kernel and we're therefor nailed to V7.3-2 - we don't even pay for PVS so HP won't get contacted for this/me, too) so it seems I've to live with it. Has anyone seen such a behaviour? Has anyone an idea what to look for? I have no AMDS/AVAILMAN there and no time for such (private) tests @work. Any idea? TIA -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:45:29 +0100 From: Paul Sture Subject: Re: [VMS V7.3-2] CTERM Problems after patch install Message-ID: In article <45c3bb57$1@news.langstoeger.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) wrote: > We recently installed (after a whole year !) a set (about 6) of ECOs > (IIRC UPDATE V8 and a few others - I'm at home, so I haven't specifics now) > and introduced problems with CTERM sessions (just as before on the test > machines - CTERM problems are treated as meaningless for the business, > most of users do TELNET, and a few are now able to use SSH. and it seems, > I'm the only one really upset by this) > > Behaviour is that CTERM sessions behave like regularly being swapped out. > I mean, if I pause my work for say 10 seconds or less, my process takes a > whole 4 (!) seconds to start responding again. This is very frustrating > in say an EDIT session... > Are they _really_ being swapped out? A simple bit of DCL doing a SHOW SYSTEM in say, a 1 second loop, would tell you that. -- Paul Sture ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.067 ************************