INFO-VAX Wed, 07 Feb 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 75 Contents: Re: Anyone have a copy of the DCL book they'd part with? Blank page when printing with setup module Re: Blank page when printing with setup module Re: Blank page when printing with setup module Re: Blank page when printing with setup module Re: Blank page when printing with setup module Re: FYI: Blu-Ray disc as an bootdevice for a Itanium & Alpha (XP1000) Re: How to temporarily disable AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV? Re: If you are attending the Encompass event in Canada Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Re: Searching FMS documentation in pdf SPANNING BACKUP TAPES Re: SPANNING BACKUP TAPES Re: Wanted: Alisashare / Alisatalk for VMS / VAX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:49:25 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: Anyone have a copy of the DCL book they'd part with? Message-ID: <00A62DA7.FCAB23F9@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article , healyzh@aracnet.com writes: >DeanW wrote: >> I gave my copy of "Writing Real Programs in DCL" to a geographically >> remote co-worker, figuring I'd just pick up another copy. That book >> turns out to be unobtanium. > >> Does anyone have an extra copy that I might be able to purchase, or >> know where there is one? > >I'm afraid not, that book seems to be one of the most sought after VMS >titles out there if the prices I've seen it offered at are any indication. >Thankfully I own a copy, and I'm not about to part with it. > >I think it's time for a Third Edition :^) Of course I'd also like to see a >Second edition of Alan Winston's OpenVMS Webserver book! Thanks for the kind words. Digital Press has asked me for a second edition. I'm not really sure I've got the time. Also, I keep finding problems with SWS 2.11, and I'd feel like a fraud if I tried to update the book when the Apache installation I manage isn't in good shape. I hope to get this sorted out soonish, though. -- Alan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 13:55:55 -0800 From: "Malcolm Dunnett" Subject: Blank page when printing with setup module Message-ID: <45c8f95e$1@flight> I know this subject has been beaten to death over the years, but I've tried the previously posted advice and nothing seems to work. The system is an Alphaserver ES40 running VMS 7.3-2. I want to set up a print queue that always prints from the manual feed tray of an HP printer. I create a queue and assign it a default form which has a setup module. The module contains: ]VMS;2\E&l2H which consists of the "magic incantation" (which doesn't print but doesn't appear to do anything useful either), followed by a "reset printer" followed by a "select manual tray". This all works as expected (job prints from manual tray) except of course for the blank page which always prints before the job. If I only include the E to reset the printer in the setup module then I don't get a blank page, but any other printer control escape sequences trigger the blank page. Am I doing something wrong or is it just plain impossible to use a setup module without getting a blank page? Who's "brilliant" idea was it to have the symbiont spit out a blank page if it thinks there was anything "printable" in the setup module? If I wanted a blank page before the job I could always add a setup module containing a form feed at the end of the setup modules, having the print symbiont decide I need one ( and apparently having no way to turn it off ) is ridiculous. Come on HP, it's your printer and your O/S - can't you make them play nice together!!! ------------------------------ Date: 6 Feb 2007 15:10:10 -0800 From: "Doug Phillips" Subject: Re: Blank page when printing with setup module Message-ID: <1170803410.230525.109200@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > I know this subject has been beaten to death over the years, > but I've tried the previously posted advice and nothing > seems to work. > > The system is an Alphaserver ES40 running VMS 7.3-2. I > want to set up a print queue that always prints from > the manual feed tray of an HP printer. I create a queue > and assign it a default form which has a setup module. > The module contains: > > ]VMS;2\E&l2H > > which consists of the "magic incantation" (which doesn't > print but doesn't appear to do anything useful either), > followed by a "reset printer" followed by a "select > manual tray". > > This all works as expected (job prints from manual tray) > except of course for the blank page which always prints > before the job. If I only include the E to reset > the printer in the setup module then I don't get a blank > page, but any other printer control escape sequences > trigger the blank page. > > Am I doing something wrong or is it just plain impossible > to use a setup module without getting a blank page? > > > > Who's "brilliant" idea was it to have the symbiont spit > out a blank page if it thinks there was anything "printable" > in the setup module? If I wanted a blank page before the > job I could always add a setup module containing a form feed > at the end of the setup modules, having the print symbiont > decide I need one ( and apparently having no way to turn it > off ) is ridiculous. > > Come on HP, it's your printer and your O/S - can't you > make them play nice together!!! > > Some printers will eject a sheet when the tray is changed from default to whatever. I suspect (but have never confirmed) that it has partially pre-loaded a sheet that has to be cleared. Maybe that's your situation, maybe not. If so, it's a printer thing. ------------------------------ Date: 6 Feb 2007 15:25:11 -0800 From: "David B Sneddon" Subject: Re: Blank page when printing with setup module Message-ID: <1170804307.057818.129240@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> On Feb 6, 9:55 pm, "Malcolm Dunnett" wrote: [...snip...] > > > > Who's "brilliant" idea was it to have the symbiont spit > out a blank page if it thinks there was anything "printable" > in the setup module? If I wanted a blank page before the > job I could always add a setup module containing a form feed > at the end of the setup modules, having the print symbiont > decide I need one ( and apparently having no way to turn it > off ) is ridiculous. > > Come on HP, it's your printer and your O/S - can't you > make them play nice together!!! > > On our printers here, we have lots of different forms defined that use setup modules. Here is a sample form definition... $ define/form PT011270 6002 - /description="Portrait,Tray 1,12-pitch,70-lpp" - /length=64 - /setup=(reset,tray_1,ori_portrait,pitch_12,ff) - /stock=default - /notruncate/nowrap/margin=(top=0,bottom=0)/width=65535 Each of the setups starts with the RESET module and finishes with the FF module. The RESET module is E&l64F The FF module is *c127E(s2W (Those are the definitions for HP printers) The above FF module, despite its name, does not generate a FF... I have a number of procedures that create forms and setup modules for different printer types. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:49:36 -0500 From: "Richard B. gilbert" Subject: Re: Blank page when printing with setup module Message-ID: <45C91410.2080002@comcast.net> Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > I know this subject has been beaten to death over the years, > but I've tried the previously posted advice and nothing > seems to work. > > The system is an Alphaserver ES40 running VMS 7.3-2. I > want to set up a print queue that always prints from > the manual feed tray of an HP printer. I create a queue > and assign it a default form which has a setup module. > The module contains: > > ]VMS;2\E&l2H > > which consists of the "magic incantation" (which doesn't > print but doesn't appear to do anything useful either), > followed by a "reset printer" followed by a "select > manual tray". > > This all works as expected (job prints from manual tray) > except of course for the blank page which always prints > before the job. If I only include the E to reset > the printer in the setup module then I don't get a blank > page, but any other printer control escape sequences > trigger the blank page. > > Am I doing something wrong or is it just plain impossible > to use a setup module without getting a blank page? > > > > Who's "brilliant" idea was it to have the symbiont spit > out a blank page if it thinks there was anything "printable" > in the setup module? If I wanted a blank page before the > job I could always add a setup module containing a form feed > at the end of the setup modules, having the print symbiont > decide I need one ( and apparently having no way to turn it > off ) is ridiculous. > > Come on HP, it's your printer and your O/S - can't you > make them play nice together!!! > > > > That's not quite the way it works! The symbiont issues a formfeed if it sees anything in the setup module that could change the initial print position. The symbiont does not understand HP PCL, only ANSI X3-64 escape sequences. There is a way to tiptoe around this but I have not needed it for several years now and I have forgotten the details. And it's not really HP's O/S. As we all know far too well, it's an orphan! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:33:33 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Blank page when printing with setup module Message-ID: <1191c$45c964c0$cef8887a$7276@TEKSAVVY.COM> Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > That's a holdover from the days when DEC made printers which spoke > ANSI and wasn't particularly interested in making it easy to use > other peoples (especially HPs) printers with VMS. Thus my little > dig that HP should remove this vestige of proprietariness from How is your computer connected to the printer ? Serial ? Lat ? TCPIP ? Telnet ? Before blasting the symbiont, you may wish to try to dump your data "raw" to the printer to see how it reacts to it. It is quite possible that the printer automatically ejects a page that contains "some" content when you issue the reset comand just after that. If it is a serial or LAT port, you could build a text file with the exact escape sequences and test data and use COPY to send it , totally bypassing the queue manager. Or use Kermit to send it via telnet or raw TCPIP. If the symbiont does not understand HP's proprietary sequences, then it won't recognize ANY of the sequences, so the argument that the symbiont would insert a form feed between two HP proprietary sequences seems doubtful. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:42:05 GMT From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: FYI: Blu-Ray disc as an bootdevice for a Itanium & Alpha (XP1000) Message-ID: In article <000701c74a09$e500bb60$05072286@vg2>, "Eberhard Heuser" wrote: >Hi, > >I have bought a PLEXTOR BD-R PX-B900A yesterday. Here is a log that shows >that this really nice drive allows you to boot Blu-Rays (and DVDs and CDs, >too). > >I took original OpenVMS discs or burned a Blu-Ray with DVDwrite. > >Eberhard > >PS: This drive is a so called second generation drive that burns BDR-R(E) DL >with a >capacity of ~50 GB... Very nice. Thanks for posting. ------------------------------ Date: 6 Feb 2007 13:07:07 -0800 From: "tadamsmar" Subject: Re: How to temporarily disable AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV? Message-ID: <1170796026.970258.196110@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Feb 5, 1:40 pm, "Jim" wrote: > On Feb 5, 12:37 pm, "tadamsmar" wrote: > > > > > > > I have the following notes on how to set AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV > > > SYSMAN > > PARA SET AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 1 > > PARA WRITE ACTIVE > > PARA WRITE CURRENT > > reboot > > > All my Alphas have it set. > > > But I just realized I need a simple procedure for disabling it in the > > rare case that a node is in production use at 2 AM on that Sunday of > > the time change. It might happen on one of our systems since some > > researchers run multi-day experiments. I would need to do the time > > change manually at a later time, probably on Monday. > > > Is there a simpler way to disable it for the weekend and then enable > > it. That is, without the reboot? > > > Other than setting the time, is there anything else I need to do to > > manually change to/form daylight savings time. > > > I am running 7.3.2. I am not running NTP or anything like that on > > these systems. > > The JOB_CONTROL process is the consumer of that AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV > parameter. It reads it during startup and schedules the time > change event if required. So, log in as user SYSTEM and do the > following to disable automatic DST processing on the running > system (this will not persist across a reboot). > > $ mcr sysman > SYSMAN> PARA SET AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV 0 ! flip the flag > SYSMAN> PARA WRITE ACTIVE ! save it > SYSMAN> EXIT > $ stop job_control ! stop job controller running under SYSTEM > $ @sys$system:startup jobctl ! re-start JOB_CONTROL process- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - run sys$system:sysman does the same as: mcr sysman I guess ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 05:41:01 GMT From: John Santos Subject: Re: If you are attending the Encompass event in Canada Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > Sue wrote: > >> Can you please send me email. > > > Hummm, I'll have to decide which email I could send you. Must I print it > and FedEx it to you ? > >> Can you also let me know if there is >> anything you would like me to talk about (informally). > > > If you are willing to talk informally, then there is a LOT you could be > talking about... Can you reveal the secret location where VMS is being > ported to the 8086 ? > > :-) :-) :-) Ermmm.... Now you know the *real* purpose of Area 51 :-) -- John Santos Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:50:31 +0100 From: Paul Sture Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: In article , koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote: > In article , JF Mezei > writes: > > Bob Koehler wrote: > >> The VMS JRE processes all the .jar files if they are rfm:stmlf . > >> If the JRE can handle them that way, then maybe the http server would > >> be better off that way. Alternately, you may want to try setting > >> them to stmlf, then CONVERTing them to stm to see if the crlf pair > >> helps out. > > > > > > This all depends on how RMS and "COPY" handle the conversion from the file > > to a network semantic. > > > > I wouldn't expect RMS to know much about BG devices, and COPY just > relies on RMS. > > Anybody got a BG device handy that they can do a show/full on (I > don't do UCX)? > They all look the same to me: Device BG274:, device type unknown, is online, mounted, record-oriented device, network device, mailbox device. Error count 0 Operations completed 2497 Owner process "TCPIP$SSH_BG262" Reference count 1 Default buffer size 256 > Lots of IP network applications use crlf as line separator, which is > why I think converting from lf to crlf is worth trying. -- Paul Sture ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:40:41 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: Hi JF, > Have you tried to set the file to rfm=fix mrs=512 lrs=512 rat=none ? Not the "rfm=fix" part. The others as per my $dir output. I should've pointed out in my earlier post that when I use the Appletviewer, as opposed to Internet Explorer, then all is just peachy. I have had a problem previously where IE required that the link to my HTTP 1.0 server had to be disconnected before it would accept the Applet; perhaps this is an extension of that idiosyncrasy and now that it's greater than one read/buffer it's complaining? > Installing OSU is not a problem. Really. VMSINSTAL kit from some website? Or do I have to build a whole lot of stuff? Cheers Richard Maher "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:e8b28$45c7dedf$cef8887a$7857@TEKSAVVY.COM... > Richard Maher wrote: > > Gentlemen, Good-morning, > > Good evening here. You need to stop thinking that the earth revolves around > Australia :-) :-) > > > I an using a Mickey Mouse DCL http server (see below) > > Is Disney Corp now selling VMS software ? :-) ;-) > > > > Hein > > ----- > > The .JAR file has been $set file/attr=(rfm:udf) and as you can see is a > > straight forward DCL copy to the _BG: device. Anything RMS might do with > > fragmentation? > > My name isn't Hein, but... > > udf may be the philosofically right RMS attribute for raw data, but > unfortunatly, it often causes problems because some file operations doesn't > know where to stop reading and they exceed the bufquo for the process. (eg: > tryin to read/write too big a chunk of data). > > > Have you tried to set the file to rfm=fix mrs=512 lrs=512 rat=none ? > > > > Does something other that a standard streamed socket read on the client, and > > an RMS copy on the server, have to happen here to satisfy HTTP semantics? Am > > I hitting a socket quota or TCP/IP seg size here? > > You are expected to read line by line from SYS$NET until you get a blank > line. (aka, read the HTTP request). You then reply a HTTP header, line by > line, write a blank line, and then send your data in binary form. > > > > I really don't want to have to install and maintain a full-blown Webserver > > Installing OSU is not a problem. Really. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:50:00 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: Hi David, > Dumb question: might FTP serve the same purpose? Apparently, yes. Can you give me a few quick tips on setting up an anonymous FTP server. (Or if someone could give me an example of a FTP URL with Username/Password that VMS UCX likes then that would be good too.) > (Hint: If you can't/won't run Multinet, can you at least install the HGFTP > server?) HG = Hunter Goatley? Freeware? Is it MACRO-32 or do I have to install the virus that is C and then try and locate my PAK file somewhere? I will eventually write a lightweight ultrafast Applet uploader with full access to Linger Deaccess NoDelay etc options. All I want in the short term is something to appease/placate MS IE until my JAVA Applet is debugged. If only there was someone with experience of Browser TCP/IP foibles that could explain what's coining on. Cheers Richard Maher "David J Dachtera" wrote in message news:45C7EBC1.2E981C78@spam.comcast.net... > Richard Maher wrote: > > > > Gentlemen, Good-morning, > > > > Can you please help me with a little Webserver/RMS conundrum? > > > > I an using a Mickey Mouse DCL http server (see below) listening on port 80 > > to transfer some html files and a Java Applet Archive file. > > Dumb question: might FTP serve the same purpose? > > (Hint: If you can't/won't run Multinet, can you at least install the HGFTP > server?) > > -- > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems > http://www.djesys.com/ > > Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page > http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ > > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ > > Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: > http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ > > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:52:03 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: Hi Hein, Thanks for the reply. I tried $set rms/net, and closing the file, (and waiting "n" seconds before closing the file), but still no joy. Cheers Richard Maher "Hein RMS van den Heuvel" wrote in message news:1170739675.231502.114240@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > Hey Richard, > > You know I like UDF files, but they do require the application to do > something semi intelliegent with the data. > I prefer to think of it as User Defined instead of Un Defined. > > Here are some interpretations: > $ copy TEST.MAP;1 udf.tmp/log > %COPY-S-COPIED, TEST.MAP;1 copied to UDF.TMP;1 (17 blocks) > $ set file/attr=(rfm=udf,lrl=512,mrs=512) udf.tmp > $ conv udf.tmp nl:/stat > Total Records Processed: 17 Buffered I/O Count: > 6 > Total Exception Records: 0 Direct I/O Count: > 36 > $ sear udf.tmp fwerfwer/stat > Files searched: 1 Buffered I/O count: 5 > Records searched: 1 Direct I/O count: 2 > Characters searched: 8522 Page faults: 35 > $ copy udf.tmp nl:/log > %COPY-S-COPIED, UDF.TMP;1 copied to NL: (17 records) > $ copy udf.tmp 0"hein"::/log > %COPY-S-COPIED, UDF.TMP;1 copied to 0"hein password"::UDF.TMP;2 (17 > blocks) > $ conv udf.tmp 0"hein"::/stat > Total Records Processed: 17 Buffered I/O Count: > 21 > Total Exception Records: 0 Direct I/O Count: > 18 > $ open/write tmp tmp.tmp > $ copy/log udf.tmp tmp > %COPY-S-COPIED, UDF.TMP;3 copied to DRA3: (17 records) > > > I agree with JF that you should at least try RFM=512, but wonder what > the EOF block will look like. > IFF the files are less than 32KB then stream_lf should be fine also, > just don't use stream. > > Knobs to turn which might have an influence? > Do a SHOW RMS > My WAG would be SET RMS/NET. > > Try a different copy tool? > CONVERT? > EXCHANGE/NET? > > > Are you runnning that server with a logfile? > Any (close?) errors in there? > put a /LOG on that copy? > > Good luck, > Hein. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:53:33 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: Hi Andreas, Well spotted. (Doesn't help me at the moment but I will correct the bug) Cheers Richard Maher wrote in message news:1170756326.089977.121530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 6, 1:37 am, "Richard Maher" > wrote: > > Gentlemen, Good-morning, > > > > Can you please help me with a little Webserver/RMS conundrum? > > > > I an using a Mickey Mouse DCL http server (see below) listening on port 80 > > > > Cheers Richard Maher > > I don't know, if this has anything to do with the problem at hand, > but the file length calculation you provided below is incorrect. > It fails whenever file size is an exact multiple of 512 bytes, since > in this case file attribut FFB is set to zero while EOF reflects the > exact block count: > > > > > $ open/read/write net sys$net > > $read_it: > > $ read net httpcmd /time=5/error=end > > $ method = f$element (0 , " " , httpcmd) > > $ path = f$element (1 , " " , httpcmd) > > $ show sym/all > > $ if "GET".eqs.method > > $ then > > $ filename = "t3$applets:" + f$element (1 , "/" , path) > > $ if f$search(filename).nes."" > > $ then > > $ type = "application/octet-stream" > > $ if f$parse(filename,,,"TYPE").eqs.".HTML" then type="text/html" > > $ write net f$fao("HTTP/1.0 200 OK!/") > > $ write net f$fao("Content-Type: ''type'!/") > > $ len = (f$file(filename , "EOF") - 1) * 512 + f$file(filename,"FFB") > > Use something like: > $ len = f$file(filename,"FFB") > $ if len .eq. 0 then len = len + 512 > $ len = (f$file(filename , "EOF") - 1) * 512 + len > > > $ write net f$fao("Content-Length: ''len'!/!/") > > $ copy/log 'filename' net > > $! goto read_it > > $ exit > > $ endif > > $ endif > > $ write net f$fao("HTTP/1.0 404 not found!/!/") > > $end: > > $ exit > > > > Regards > Andreas Gruhl > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:58:04 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: Hi Bob, Thanks for the reply. > The VMS JRE processes all the .jar files if they are rfm:stmlf . > If the JRE can handle them that way, then maybe the http server would > be better off that way. Alternately, you may want to try setting > them to stmlf, then CONVERTing them to stm to see if the crlf pair > helps out. Didn't work for me. (And the Appletviewer stopped working as well as IE) Cheers Richard Maher "Bob Koehler" wrote in message news:eKIugMSad1xM@eisner.encompasserve.org... > In article , "Richard Maher" writes: > > Gentlemen, Good-morning, > > > > Can you please help me with a little Webserver/RMS conundrum? > > > > I an using a Mickey Mouse DCL http server (see below) listening on port 80 > > to transfer some html files and a Java Applet Archive file. Once the file > > exceeds somewhere between 7231 and 7244 bytes big, the receiving IE Browser > > on W2K falls over with Unexpected end of file on Socket and a subsequent > > CLassNotFound error :-( > > > > Hein > > ----- > > > > The .JAR file has been $set file/attr=(rfm:udf) and as you can see is a > > straight forward DCL copy to the _BG: device. Anything RMS might do with > > fragmentation? > > The VMS JRE processes all the .jar files if they are rfm:stmlf . > If the JRE can handle them that way, then maybe the http server would > be better off that way. Alternately, you may want to try setting > them to stmlf, then CONVERTing them to stm to see if the crlf pair > helps out. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:59:25 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: Hi (again) JF > Someone asked why use that Mickey Mouse web server instead of ftp. Probably > because it is simpler for a browser to start a java applet via an http: The docs say there should be no difference whether the protocol is ftp or http. (It looks like I'm gonna have to find out :-) > transaction. However, using "application/octet-stream is wrong, it should > be application/java-archive or application/java I think. Well spotted. I changed it to "application/java-archive" and nothing happened. > (Unless you are using a Mickey Soft browser which disregards mime types and > decides to handle a document any way it wants to). This appears to be the crux of the problem :-( Cheers Richard Maher "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:c0e65$45c89036$cef8887a$2841@TEKSAVVY.COM... > Bob Koehler wrote: > > The VMS JRE processes all the .jar files if they are rfm:stmlf . > > If the JRE can handle them that way, then maybe the http server would > > be better off that way. Alternately, you may want to try setting > > them to stmlf, then CONVERTing them to stm to see if the crlf pair > > helps out. > > > This all depends on how RMS and "COPY" handle the conversion from the file > to a network semantic. > > For instance, if it decides to send the data as records over to SYS$NET, > then it might add line ending characters. > > You need to make sure that the operation doesn't see lf as "end of record" > and then sends a CR-LF instead over to the BG device. (adding data into > your binary data). > > > Someone asked why use that Mickey Mouse web server instead of ftp. Probably > because it is simpler for a browser to start a java applet via an http: > transaction. However, using "application/octet-stream is wrong, it should > be application/java-archive or application/java I think. > > (Unless you are using a Mickey Soft browser which disregards mime types and > decides to handle a document any way it wants to). ------------------------------ Date: 6 Feb 2007 21:16:03 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: <1170825362.950436.214610@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On Feb 5, 6:37 pm, "Richard Maher" wrote: > I really don't want to have to install and maintain a full-blown Webserver > just to test my applets so if someone knows of a SYSGEN, TCP/IP or Quota I > should be looking at and adjusting then please let me know! While I understand that sentiment, it seems there's been a fair amount of time spent getting it to work with this script! WASD only takes a few minutes to install, and once configured, will run quite nicely with no trouble at all. There's no much configuration you'd need, just dump your .jar files into HT_ROOT:[000000] and you're off. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:37:38 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Mark Daniel and/or Hein van den Huevel or anyone really Message-ID: Richard Maher wrote: >> Installing OSU is not a problem. Really. > > VMSINSTAL kit from some website? Or do I have to build a whole lot of stuff? OSU is a zip file. You run one command procedure to compile the whole kit and kaboodle, edit a configuration file to map your directory to a URL and voila. The also allows you to run DCL procedures as scripts. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:17:07 -0500 From: "Neil Rieck" Subject: Re: Searching FMS documentation in pdf Message-ID: <45c942d1$0$7462$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> "Richard B. gilbert" wrote in message news:45C8F71E.6030105@comcast.net... > vancouvercancun@yahoo.ca wrote: >> Hi >> I am looking for FMS Forms Management System documentation in pdf >> format. Is it available somewhere ? Can anybody send it to me ? >> I have already found sysworks web site and printed to PDFCreator in >> numerous pdf files. It is akward to work with. If the docs exist in a >> better formatted pdf document, I would love to get it. >> >> TIA >> Van >> > This page says "HP FMS for OpenVMS I64" but that's just p.r. because of the VAX references http://h30266.www3.hp.com/odl/i64lp/progtool/fms_v25/fms_v25.htm Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:54:43 -0600 From: John Subject: SPANNING BACKUP TAPES Message-ID: <45C94D83.9060800@tx.rr.com> We currently use 35/70-GB tapes and the bulk of the disk drives are 10-30-GB in size. I have always made it a policy not to span tapes during my backup procedures. I have done this for a couple of reasons... 1) auditors - one of the questions they ask is "do you span tapes" - at least in the past they have 2) DR - in the event that we have a DR incident we can restore multiple tapes at once 3) loss of tape - in the event that the human factor plays her deadly card we will not lose the second tape My questions... How much of an issue is this? Is not spanning tapes a good practice? Should I care about this? What are your thoughts? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:10:02 -0500 From: "Richard B. gilbert" Subject: Re: SPANNING BACKUP TAPES Message-ID: <45C95F2A.6060601@comcast.net> John wrote: > We currently use 35/70-GB tapes and the bulk of the disk drives are > 10-30-GB in size. > > I have always made it a policy not to span tapes during my backup > procedures. > > I have done this for a couple of reasons... > > 1) auditors - one of the questions they ask is "do you span tapes" - at > least in the past they have > 2) DR - in the event that we have a DR incident we can restore multiple > tapes at once > 3) loss of tape - in the event that the human factor plays her deadly > card we will not lose the second tape > > My questions... > > How much of an issue is this? > Is not spanning tapes a good practice? > Should I care about this? > > What are your thoughts? If, by "spanning tapes" you mean writing two backups to one tape or three backups to two tapes, I don't see a serious problem with it. You save one tape mount. Saving the tape mount may mean that you don't have to pay an operator to be there to mount the tape. If speed of recovery is a factor and you have two drives available, and two independent SCSI HBAs to connect them to, then writing one backup per tape has a clear speed advantage. Flip a coin or something!!! ------------------------------ Date: 7 Feb 2007 01:43:50 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com Subject: Re: Wanted: Alisashare / Alisatalk for VMS / VAX Message-ID: Bob Harris wrote: > something like OpenVMS 7.2. I think the Alpha version worked on > OpenVMS 6.something up to 7.2. I am NOT positive about these > versions, so your mileage may vary. The Alpha Version apparently stopped working at some point with OpenVMS V7.3-2. Does anyone happen to know which patch breaks it? This has been keeping me from applying patches. I finally finished moving any Mac specific files off of my server a couple weeks ago. Now I just need to move my printer off of the Ethertalk-to-Appletalk box its sitting on, to a more modern print server box, and get it working with VMS. I'm hoping to get this done, and the DST patch applied in time. :^( Once I'm off it, I can finally look into upgrading my systems to Mac OS X 10.4.8 and OpenVMS 8.3. It's all just a matter of finding time to do it. The DST patch is the one thing that has bumped up the priority. Up to this point the convenience of having no longer Appletalk fileshares has outweighed any inconvenience from not updating. Zane ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.075 ************************