INFO-VAX Sat, 06 Oct 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 546 Contents: Re: NetBackup 6.0 MP5 OpenVMS client now available Re: OT: one of the most informative Powerpoint presentations ever Re: OT: one of the most informative Powerpoint presentations ever Re: OT: one of the most informative Powerpoint presentations ever Re: OT: one of the most informative Powerpoint presentations ever VMS Audio Update - Episode #12 RE: We're VMS - Please do not discuss the outside world ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:14:54 +0200 From: Marc Van Dyck Subject: Re: NetBackup 6.0 MP5 OpenVMS client now available Message-ID: Alan Fay wrote on 4/10/2007 : > The NetBackup 6.0 MP5 OpenVMS client maintenance pack (which includes support > for OpenVMS V8.3) is now available for Alpha, HP Integrity (IA64) and VAX > systems. > > This maintenance pack and full release notes are now available for download > from > the symantec support server:- > > http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/support/ > > NetBackup Enterprise Server --> Downloads. > > NB_VMS_60_5_M_292746.zip > > Alan Fay > Symantec Corporation > Roseville Engineering Still zero hope to receive an OpenVMS Media Server ? -- Marc Van Dyck ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:08:26 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: OT: one of the most informative Powerpoint presentations ever Message-ID: <_nHNi.10535$ZA.6677@newsb.telia.net> JF Mezei wrote: > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >> http://tmesis.com/powerpuke.html >> > > Redirects to a site for which VMS has no support :-( :-( That comment was actualy funnier then the actual PP presenttaion (that was quite funny in itself)... Jan-Erik. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:27:22 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: OT: one of the most informative Powerpoint presentations ever Message-ID: In article <4e71e$4706e8a9$cef8887a$6961@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei writes: > > >VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >> http://tmesis.com/powerpuke.html >> > >Redirects to a site for which VMS has no support :-( :-( Yes JF! That is why I have the page say where it is redirecting the viewer. >But it begs the question: which came first, the chicken or that >powerpoint presentation ? :-) I believe that was answered on the very last PP slide. :) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:58:07 -0500 From: Ron Johnson Subject: Re: OT: one of the most informative Powerpoint presentations ever Message-ID: On 10/06/07 03:08, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > JF Mezei wrote: >> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>> http://tmesis.com/powerpuke.html >>> >> >> Redirects to a site for which VMS has no support :-( :-( > > That comment was actualy funnier then the > actual PP presenttaion (that was quite funny > in itself)... But OpenVMS is a server platform, not a client, right? :\ -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:52:07 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: OT: one of the most informative Powerpoint presentations ever Message-ID: Ron Johnson wrote: > On 10/06/07 03:08, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: >> JF Mezei wrote: >>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>>> http://tmesis.com/powerpuke.html >>>> >>> Redirects to a site for which VMS has no support :-( :-( >> That comment was actualy funnier then the >> actual PP presenttaion (that was quite funny >> in itself)... > > But OpenVMS is a server platform, not a client, right? :\ > At least not a *desktop* client platform. But that's nothing new about that, is there ? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:44:34 -0700 From: IanMiller Subject: VMS Audio Update - Episode #12 Message-ID: <1191692674.648680.134760@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In this episode, we'll cover some of the news highlights from the last few weeks since the last update. The regular feature contributors have been busy with their day jobs but we hope to have some features in the next episode. We are always interested in hearing from people who wish to contribute an tech tip or feature of interest to the OpenVMS Community. Contact us via www.openvms.org/feedback http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=07/10/06/8086787 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:20:26 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: We're VMS - Please do not discuss the outside world Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Johnson [mailto:ron.l.johnson@cox.net] > Sent: October 5, 2007 9:28 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: We're VMS - Please do not discuss the outside world > [snip..] > >> Linux with both a CLI and GUI environment doesn't seem to have a > >> problem > >> in this area - people can choose whatever mode of operation > (GUI/CLI) > >> they > >> prefer and still get the job done. > >> > >> Simon. > >> > >> -- > >> Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP > >> Microsoft: Bringing you 1980's technology to a 21st century world > > > > Re: Linux - > > > > Yeah, as long as you do not mind having to deal with 5-20 security > patches > > released each and every month. > > > > Reference Red Hat security site: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/enterprise-watch-list/ (click thread > for each > > month and add them up yourself. Yes, not all apply, but you need to > spend the > > time researching to see if they do or not. Course, you can do what > most do and > > simply ignore these monthly security patches.) > > Or run up2date which only picks up the packages you need. > > > > > :-) > > No smiley. Accurate or not, your "5-20 security patches" mantra is > getting tres' repetitious. > > Can't you think of any other reason to bash Linux. (Pun intended.) > Perhaps I am missing something, but forget gui's and everything else. Imho,= if you have a platform that has this many security patches per month, every th= ing else is moot. And btw, Windows is in the same boat, so do not think I am defending Window= s. Imho, when you combine the security issues with the one bus app per OS inst= ance culture (and resulting 5-15% peak utilization), I do not think large companies can = afford either. But, of course, that's just my own personal $.02. > To get you headed in the right direction, let me help: > > http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/scrt/CD0B9D97EE6FE411CC25736A000E47 > 23 > Although Linux has long been considered more secure > than Windows, many of the programs that run on top of > Linux have known security vulnerabilities, and if an > attacker were to exploit an unpatched bug on a miscon- > figured system, he could seize control of the machine. > Hold it. Stop. If a platform architecture allows a person to exploit an app= lication vulnerability and take control of a system or access data they are not supp= osed to, does it matter if the bug is a kernel or application problem? Perhaps I am missing something, but what's the difference? Is the end result not the same? Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.546 ************************