INFO-VAX Fri, 30 Nov 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 656 Contents: Re: "failed to load execlet"? Re: "failed to load execlet"? Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Re: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! Re: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! Re: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! RE: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! Re: CANCEL Re: URGENT HELP needed with MULTINET - won't start on IA64 CSharifi Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Re: GNV V2.1 (was: Re: [DFG T3.0] Internal error) Re: GUI Interface Designer Re: HP loses another large customer Re: HP loses another large customer Re: HP loses another large customer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: OT: Grid Computing and HP? Re: OT: Grid Computing and HP? RE: RFC: Cluster status on a mobile handset Re: Testing username/password from DCL Re: Update on Friday's Blade Short take Re: [DFG T3.0] Internal error ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 Nov 2007 08:00:18 +0100 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) Subject: Re: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <474fc312$1@news.langstoeger.at> In article <%7O3j.1774$HS3.61713@news.siol.net>, "Gorazd Kikelj" writes: >"Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing" >wrote in message news:00A7165D.408F7686@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU... >> VMSers -- >> >> When I attempt to boot from the CD (dqbo) it sees a boot block, >> reports reading 1226 blocks from dqb0.0.1.13.0, goes through to >> setting affinity, reports jumping to bootstrap code, and then >> %SYSBOOT-E-LDFAIL, failed to load execlet, status = 00000054 >> >> What's going on here? Do I have a CD drive problem? A CPU problem? >> A duff copy of the OS? How do I tell? >> >Status 54 can be >%SYSTEM-?-BADATTRIB, bad attribute control list No. It is %SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error >Is CD ok? I sometimes get stuck with errors on CD caused by dirth and grese >from fingers. Could be. >If you have a SCSI CD drive, try with it. I second this and add the suggestion for InfoServer (or InfoServer S/W on VMS8) -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:03:38 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: In article <%7O3j.1774$HS3.61713@news.siol.net>, "Gorazd Kikelj" writes: > > > >"Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing" >wrote in message news:00A7165D.408F7686@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU... >> VMSers -- >> >> When I attempt to boot from the CD (dqbo) it sees a boot block, >> reports reading 1226 blocks from dqb0.0.1.13.0, goes through to >> setting affinity, reports jumping to bootstrap code, and then >> %SYSBOOT-E-LDFAIL, failed to load execlet, status = 00000054 >> >> What's going on here? Do I have a CD drive problem? A CPU problem? >> A duff copy of the OS? How do I tell? >> >Status 54 can be >%SYSTEM-?-BADATTRIB, bad attribute control list BzzT! Wrong. When the execlet loader reports, it is reporting a hexadecimal error code. 54(16) is: %SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:45:43 -0500 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Message-ID: <47502217.4040404@comcast.net> FrankS wrote: > Any thoughts on how source code that was produced circa 1985 may have > been encrypted "back in the day"? > > The source code files are available, and a $DIR/FULL shows fixed, 512- > byte records. The contents are pure gibberish. I have no way of > knowing how they were encrypted. > > The good news (if you can look at it that way) is that the system disk > has likely been upgraded in-place all these years. Therefore, if > there was something installed to do the encryption it's probably still > there. > > I just don't know what command or utility to look for. I suspect that, rather than being encrypted, the source files were compressed. Normally they would acquire an extension of .ZIP or .ARC or something of the sort but this could have been overridden. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:06:11 -0800 (PST) From: FrankS Subject: Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Message-ID: <04e34ed2-5f6d-486b-a38f-684cb2729954@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Nov 29, 11:36 pm, s...@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) wrote: > How pure? A DUMP of the first block might say something to someone. > DUMP /BYTE /BLOCK = END = 1 Very pure. There is no discernable plain-text signature at either the beginning or end of the file. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:11:34 -0800 (PST) From: FrankS Subject: Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Message-ID: On Nov 30, 9:45 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > I suspect that, rather than being encrypted, the source files were > compressed. Normally they would acquire an extension of .ZIP or .ARC or > something of the sort but this could have been overridden. That's certainly possible. The "normal" zip utility puts a signature into the generated file which would clue one in to it being a zip- output. In this case, there is no such signature. The questions then would be: a) Is there some other compression tool does not generate a signature? b) Can you decompress a file using ZIP/UNZIP which does not have embedded signatures? Maybe something along the lines of a callable interface to ZIP/UNZIP which compresses files intended for storage in something other than a standard ZIP archive file? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:06:30 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Jordan Subject: Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Message-ID: <63cd547d-059c-4383-bc81-cf1cc51bfde8@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> On Nov 30, 11:11 am, FrankS wrote: > On Nov 30, 9:45 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" > wrote: > > > I suspect that, rather than being encrypted, the source files were > > compressed. Normally they would acquire an extension of .ZIP or .ARC or > > something of the sort but this could have been overridden. > > That's certainly possible. The "normal" zip utility puts a signature > into the generated file which would clue one in to it being a zip- > output. In this case, there is no such signature. > > The questions then would be: > > a) Is there some other compression tool does not generate a signature? > > b) Can you decompress a file using ZIP/UNZIP which does not have > embedded signatures? > > Maybe something along the lines of a callable interface to ZIP/UNZIP > which compresses files intended for storage in something other than a > standard ZIP archive file? I have some old backup listing files that were compressed with the LZCOMP program (decompressor was called LZDCMP). They appear to be unreadable binary, no obvious readable strings in them, but the file format is "undefined, maximum 0 bytes, longest 0 bytes", no record or RMS attributes. I think those tools were commonly on the DECUS distributions, perhaps also on earlier freeware. There used to be a port of ZOO, ARC, and a couple other old compression utilities on VAX; I don't have any sample archives online though. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:33:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Dale Dellutri Subject: Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:33:58 -0800 (PST), FrankS wrote: > Any thoughts on how source code that was produced circa 1985 may have > been encrypted "back in the day"? > The source code files are available, and a $DIR/FULL shows fixed, 512- > byte records. The contents are pure gibberish. I have no way of > knowing how they were encrypted. > The good news (if you can look at it that way) is that the system disk > has likely been upgraded in-place all these years. Therefore, if > there was something installed to do the encryption it's probably still > there. > I just don't know what command or utility to look for. My suggestion: move the file (binary ftp, for example) to a Linux, Unix or *BSD system, then use the "file" command on it. file might be able to tell you what it is. -- Dale Dellutri (lose the Q's) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:40:43 -0600 (CST) From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: 20+ year old encrypted source code Message-ID: <07113012404375_202647DE@antinode.org> From: FrankS > That's certainly possible. The "normal" zip utility puts a signature > into the generated file which would clue one in to it being a zip- > output. In this case, there is no such signature. Of course, we have only your word for that, no actual evidence. > a) Is there some other compression tool does not generate a signature? Not any of the popular ones with which I'm familar. > b) Can you decompress a file using ZIP/UNZIP which does not have > embedded signatures? I doubt it. I'd expect to see a "PK" in there somewhere near the beginning. Otherwise UnZip would lose interest pretty fast. > Maybe something along the lines of a callable interface to ZIP/UNZIP > which compresses files intended for storage in something other than a > standard ZIP archive file? Bits are bits, whether in a file or not. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steven M. Schweda sms@antinode-org 382 South Warwick Street (+1) 651-699-9818 Saint Paul MN 55105-2547 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:00:14 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! Message-ID: In article , Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: > > >In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: > >> Interesting. I don't have the time to dig into these NIST documents >> and I'd wager others here do not either. >> >> Would you care to elaborate some of the guidelines in this document >> and point out where/how VMS addresses them whereas some other OS may >> not? > >Right after you summarize the Bible or Koran (your choice) in an essay >of 500 pages or more :-) I can sum them up in one word! ;) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:05:58 -0500 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! Message-ID: <475026D6.4020705@comcast.net> VAXman- wrote: > In article , Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: > >> >>In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: >> >> >>>Interesting. I don't have the time to dig into these NIST documents >>>and I'd wager others here do not either. >>> >>>Would you care to elaborate some of the guidelines in this document >>>and point out where/how VMS addresses them whereas some other OS may >>>not? >> >>Right after you summarize the Bible or Koran (your choice) in an essay >>of 500 pages or more :-) > > > I can sum them up in one word! ;) > I could think of at least two words that might be applicable; one if you accepted childhood indoctrination and another if you rejected it. But I don't think there is any bridge over that particular chasm! ;-) "Coito ergo sum!" - Randall Garrett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:58:04 -0800 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:05:58 -0800, Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > "Coito ergo sum!" - Randall Garrett > gee! -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:38:24 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: ultradwc@gmail.com [mailto:ultradwc@gmail.com] > Sent: November 29, 2007 3:49 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: bot infected computers in the millions - robing businesses! > > except the ones running vms ... it mentions power grids ... aren't > most power grids on vms? > > http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/29/fbi.botnets/index.html Yes - many power grids are run by OpenVMS. Recent SCADA Windows to HP OpenVMS Integrity migration testimonial: http://www.vista-control.com/itanium_success.htm "Los Alamos, February 15th. 2007 After implementing mission-critical system= s on Windows-based computers for many years, a customer experienced a virus i= n one of these systems that shut down production for two days while the infec= ted systems were diagnosed, restored and tested. The impact was that plant production was severely impacted at no small cost. Despite internal opposit= ion because of the established standard, Vsystem on HP Itanium servers running OpenVMS was chosen for the next system to be replaced." [see rest of articl= e] Another recent SCADA article: QEI Provides Active/Active SCADA with OpenVMS: (September 2007) http://www.availabilitydigest.com/public_articles/0209/qei.pdf Extract: "QEI's current SCADA system, TDMS-PLUS (Total Distribution Management Syste= m), focuses on the monitoring and control of electrical power substations used = for the distribution of power to electric utility customers and transit systems= . Built on the highly reliable and secure HP OpenVMS platform, TDMS-PLUS prov= ides extreme availabilities through the use of dual, triple, or quadruple active= /active redundancy in disaster-tolerant configurations." [see rest of article] Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:28:59 +0200 From: "Guy Peleg" Subject: Re: CANCEL Re: URGENT HELP needed with MULTINET - won't start on IA64 Message-ID: <47500433$0$26028$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Syltrem" wrote in message news:13kv33tm9po766c@corp.supernews.com... > It's ok now. > > I have no idea what happened. > > I had changed some SYSGEN parameters and executed autogen > > I restored the IA64VMSSYS.OLD (to .PAR) and ran the autogen again (just > like the 1st time) and all was ok. > I just made sure about 1 parameter set specifically for Multinet > (GH_EXEC_DATA) , to have a MIN_ for it in MODPARAMS.DAT as it might be the > one that has not been modified properly using MODPARAMS before. > Can't remember the value of it when Multinet wouldn't start so can't > confirm > > All is fine now. > Syltrem > First let me make it clear that I know NOTHING about MULTINET... In your register dump, R8 contains 1BC. On Itanium R8 holds the returned status of a function. Assuming this is really a returned status it stands for NOLOGNAM error: $ exit %x1bc %SYSTEM-F-NOLOGNAM, no logical name match Maybe it means something to you..... fwiw, Guy > > "Syltrem" a écrit dans le message de news: > 13kutk5748fg260@corp.supernews.com... >> Hi >> >> Our production system is down, and Process software office is closed... >> >> Multinet won't start on our Itanium RX-3600 >> >> We already raised GH_EXEC_DATA to 4096 and that doesn't help >> >> Can someone help ? >> >> Thanks >> >> Sorry for cross-posting, don't know who can help me here... >> >> Syltrem >> no zulu to reach me directly >> >> $ MultiNet Load/Silent/Network_Image=MULTINET_KERNEL >> >> %MULTINET-W-KRNNOTLOADED, kernel MULTINET_ip_DEVICE_CONFIG not loaded >> >> %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=A0, virtual >> address=000000000000001B, PC=000002E000030300, PS=43790036 >> >> Improperly handled condition, image exit forced. >> >> Signal arguments: Number = 0000000000000003 >> >> Name = 000000000000000C >> >> 00000000000315A0 >> >> 000000000000001B >> >> Register dump: >> >> R0 = 0000000000000000 R1 = 000000007B546000 R2 = 000000007FF43ED0 >> >> R3 = 0000000000000000 R4 = 000000007FFCF818 R5 = 000000007FFCF8B0 >> >> R6 = 0000000010000001 R7 = 0000000000000001 R8 = 00000000000001BC >> >> R9 = 0000000000000000 R10 = 000000007ACC18E0 R11 = 000000007ACC18E8 >> >> SP = 000000007ACC1890 TP = 000000007B5341C8 R14 = 00000000002A0000 >> >> R15 = 00000000000B01F0 R16 = FFFFFFFF841E9C50 R17 = 000000007FF43F78 >> >> R18 = 0000000000000000 R19 = 0000000000000000 R20 = 0000000000000003 >> >> R21 = 0000000000000000 R22 = 0000000000000000 R23 = E000000000000050 >> >> R24 = 0000000000000004 R25 = 0000000000000001 R26 = FFFFFFFFA11DA040 >> >> R27 = FFFFFFFFA11DA07C R28 = 000000000000000F R29 = E000000000000000 >> >> R30 = 000000000000000F R31 = 0000000000000000 PC = 00000000000315A0 >> >> BSP/STORE = 000007FDBFFD41C8 / 000007FDBFFD41C8 PSR = 0000101308026010 >> >> IIPA = 0000000000000000 >> >> B0 = 00000000000315A0 B6 = FFFFFFFF841E9C50 B7 = FFFFF80409C053A0 >> >> Interrupted Frame RSE Backing Store, Size = 26 registers >> >> R32 = 0000000000020000 R33 = 0000000000020B18 R34 = 00000000000A002C >> >> R35 = 000000000002A1E0 R36 = 0000000000010070 R37 = 0000000000070048 >> >> R38 = 0000000000000003 R39 = 0000000000010020 R40 = 00000000080280CC >> >> R41 = 000000007ACC1989 R42 = 000000000000005F R43 = 54454E49544C554D >> >> R44 = 0000000008028188 R45 = 0000000000000000 R46 = 0000000000000004 >> >> R47 = 00000000000300C0 R48 = C000000000000491 R49 = 00000000002A0000 >> >> R50 = 000000000000000C R51 = 0000000000000001 R52 = 0000000000020B28 >> >> R53 = 0000000000000001 R54 = 000000000000004E R55 = 0000000000000046 >> >> R56 = 0000000000000049 R57 = 0000000000000047 >> >> > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:14:39 -0800 (PST) From: CVC Subject: CSharifi Message-ID: <275e6bab-f816-42ba-b4d8-6459c3d59aae@g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> C-Sharifi Cluster Engine: The Second Success Story on "Kernel-Level Paradigm" for Distributed Computing Support Contrary to two school of thoughts in providing system software support for distributed computation that advocate either the development of a whole new distributed operating system (like Mach), or the development of library-based or patch-based middleware on top of existing operating systems (like MPI, Kerrighed and Mosix), Dr. Mohsen Sharifi hypothesized another school of thought as his thesis in 1986 that believes all distributed systems software requirements and supports can be and must be built at the Kernel Level of existing operating systems; requirements like Ease of Programming, Simplicity, Efficiency, Accessibility, etc which may be coined as Usability. Although the latter belief was hard to realize, a sample byproduct called DIPC was built purely based on this thesis and openly announced to the Linux community worldwide in 1993. This was admired for being able to provide necessary supports for distributed communication at the Kernel Level of Linux for the first time in the world, and for providing Ease of Programming as a consequence of being realized at the Kernel Level. However, it was criticized at the same time as being inefficient. This did not force the school to trade Ease of Programming for Efficiency but instead tried hard to achieve efficiency, alongside ease of programming and simplicity, without defecting the school that advocates the provision of all needs at the kernel level. The result of this effort is now manifested in the C- Sharifi Cluster Engine. C-Sharifi is a cost effective distributed system software engine in support of high performance computing by clusters of off-the-shelf computers. It is wholly implemented in Kernel, and as a consequence of following this school, it has Ease of Programming, Ease of Clustering, Simplicity, and it can be configured to fit as best as possible to the efficiency requirements of applications that need high performance. It supports both distributed shared memory and message passing styles, it is built in Linux, and its cost/performance ratio in some scientific applications (like meteorology and cryptanalysis) has shown to be far better than non-kernel-based solutions and engines (like MPI, Kerrighed and Mosix). Best Regard ~Ehsan Mousavi C-Sharifi Development Team ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:36:33 -0600 (CST) From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <07113000363306_202647DE@antinode.org> From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) > So I have a DS10 that I bought from Island and left in a box for > months. (We foolishly bought it without a video card, and then I was > fussing with an unsupported old card for too long, and now I have a > nice ATI card that succeeds in driving a VGA display with the > console.) Any warranty is already over. Is that a genuine Radeon 7500 or some other random/unsupported ATI card? (Lots of stuff will do the VGA part well enough.) > Console software is 7.2-1 with a 2006 date. My good system is an XP1000, so I stopped worrying about firmware versions long ago. > The CD drive reports itself as CD-224E 9.9A and looks like the OEM > drive. Teac, or was it as reticent/vague-about-details as you? > When I attempt to boot from the CD (dqbo) it sees a boot block, > reports reading 1226 blocks from dqb0.0.1.13.0, goes through to > setting affinity, reports jumping to bootstrap code, and then > %SYSBOOT-E-LDFAIL, failed to load execlet, status = 00000054 alp $ sysmsg %x00000054 %SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error > What's going on here? Do I have a CD drive problem? A CPU problem? > A duff copy of the OS? How do I tell? I'd try a new/different CD-ROM drive. Everyone has a loose external SCSI drive lying around, doesn't he? If I had a different CD, I might try that, too. The more I think about it, the more I think that it's probably a total loss. I'll pay the shipping if you want to shed the thing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steven M. Schweda sms@antinode-org 382 South Warwick Street (+1) 651-699-9818 Saint Paul MN 55105-2547 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:39:22 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <00A71669.88149D4E@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article <07113000363306_202647DE@antinode.org>, sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) writes: >From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) > >> So I have a DS10 that I bought from Island and left in a box for >> months. (We foolishly bought it without a video card, and then I was >> fussing with an unsupported old card for too long, and now I have a >> nice ATI card that succeeds in driving a VGA display with the >> console.) Any warranty is already over. > > Is that a genuine Radeon 7500 or some other random/unsupported ATI >card? (Lots of stuff will do the VGA part well enough.) > Unsupported but Island swears it works. >> Console software is 7.2-1 with a 2006 date. > > My good system is an XP1000, so I stopped worrying about firmware >versions long ago. > >> The CD drive reports itself as CD-224E 9.9A and looks like the OEM >> drive. > > Teac, or was it as reticent/vague-about-details as you? I can't really tell easily. The faceplate matches the battleship-gray box of the DS10. The drive is in a cage (with two other drives) which I don't see how to remove, and I can't see any details on the CD. I'm way more of a software person than a hardware person. > >> When I attempt to boot from the CD (dqbo) it sees a boot block, >> reports reading 1226 blocks from dqb0.0.1.13.0, goes through to >> setting affinity, reports jumping to bootstrap code, and then >> %SYSBOOT-E-LDFAIL, failed to load execlet, status = 00000054 > >alp $ sysmsg %x00000054 >%SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error > Interesting. >> What's going on here? Do I have a CD drive problem? A CPU problem? >> A duff copy of the OS? How do I tell? > > I'd try a new/different CD-ROM drive. Everyone has a loose external >SCSI drive lying around, doesn't he? If I had a different CD, I might >try that, too. > I'll see if someone around here has a SCSI drive. > The more I think about it, the more I think that it's probably a >total loss. I'll pay the shipping if you want to shed the thing. > I think I detect irony. Thanks! -- Alan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:59:17 +0100 From: Jur van der Burg <"lddriver at digiater dot nl"> Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <474fc2d6$0$240$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> What kind of CD are you trying to boot? I suppose VMS, but which version? Make sure you have a version that supports the system. Jur. Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > VMSers -- > > So I have a DS10 that I bought from Island and left in a box for > months. (We foolishly bought it without a video card, and then I was > fussing with an unsupported old card for too long, and now I have a > nice ATI card that succeeds in driving a VGA display with the > console.) Any warranty is already over. > > Console software is 7.2-1 with a 2006 date. > > The CD drive reports itself as CD-224E 9.9A and looks like the OEM > drive. > > When I attempt to boot from the CD (dqbo) it sees a boot block, > reports reading 1226 blocks from dqb0.0.1.13.0, goes through to > setting affinity, reports jumping to bootstrap code, and then > %SYSBOOT-E-LDFAIL, failed to load execlet, status = 00000054 > > What's going on here? Do I have a CD drive problem? A CPU problem? > A duff copy of the OS? How do I tell? > > (If I need to MOP boot this puppy in order to be able to tell, can > somebody point me to a step-by-step guide? I've never done MOP for > anything but terminal servers and Xterms, and it's been a long time.) > > > Thanks, > > -- Alan > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:03:40 -0600 (CST) From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <07113002034056_202647DE@antinode.org> From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) > >> The CD drive reports itself as CD-224E 9.9A and looks like the OEM > >> drive. > > > > Teac, or was it as reticent/vague-about-details as you? > > I can't really tell easily. The faceplate matches the battleship-gray box of > the DS10. The drive is in a cage (with two other drives) which I don't see how > to remove, and I can't see any details on the CD. I'm way more of a software > person than a hardware person. Around here, ">>>SHOW DEVICE" reveals things like the maker: dqa0.0.0.107.0 DQA0 SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A 1.73 > I'll see if someone around here has a SCSI drive. Or break up an old PC and extract its IDE drive. It's just that if you have one, an external drive can be easier to attach. > > The more I think about it, the more I think that it's probably a > >total loss. I'll pay the shipping if you want to shed the thing. > > I think I detect irony. Nah. I'm always sincere. SMS. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:34:48 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <4a8a8$474fcb27$cef8887a$8142@TEKSAVVY.COM> Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > (If I need to MOP boot this puppy in order to be able to tell, can > somebody point me to a step-by-step guide? Do you have a cluster already setup ? Can you read that CD on another node ? @CLUSTER_CONFIG will do the trick to add a satellite node to your boot node. It creates a new root and adds the required stuff in the LANCP database. But you can also do this manually: MC LANCP LANCP> SET NODE newone - /BOOT_TYPE=ALPHA_SATELLITE - /FILE=APB.EXE- /ROOT=DISK$SYSTEM: - /address=08-00-2B-87-3D-64 (you may wish to do this once with /PERM and once with /VOLATILE) What this will do is cause it to look for: DISK$SYSTEM:[SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]APB.EXE (replace disk$system with whatever disk drive has the system sotware it in. but use the < and > instead of [ ] for the directory specs. in you will want to have some ALPHAVMSSYS.PAR file with wnataver sysgen parameters for the new node (including SCSNODENAME ) You also want to make sure that CLUSTER_AUTHORIZE.DAT is going to be accessible to the new node if you plan to have it join the cluster. (put it in sys$common:[sysexe]. APB.EXE gets you to a point where there is some sort of MSCP access that allows the boot to continue. I have managed to have an alpha boot from a VAX without the alpha having VMSCLUSTER set to 0 and it completed the boot. It saw its system drive but no other drives. To get a VAX to act as boot node for an alpha, you need to have a separate disk to hold the alpha system software, and then use LANCP as above to point to that disk in the /ROOT. On the alpha side: >>> BOOT EWA0 or >>> BOOT EWA0 -flags 1,1 first 1 is the root number aka [.SYS1] second 1 is the request to get to SYSBOOT. You can set it to 0 to skip that. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:45:25 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <00A71672.C2B7CDAB@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article <474fc2d6$0$240$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Jur van der Burg <"lddriver at digiater dot nl"> writes: >What kind of CD are you trying to boot? I suppose VMS, but which >version? Make sure you have a version that supports the system. VMS 8.3 Alpha for the DS10. -- Alan > >Jur. > >Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: >> VMSers -- >> >> So I have a DS10 that I bought from Island and left in a box for >> months. (We foolishly bought it without a video card, and then I was >> fussing with an unsupported old card for too long, and now I have a >> nice ATI card that succeeds in driving a VGA display with the >> console.) Any warranty is already over. >> >> Console software is 7.2-1 with a 2006 date. >> >> The CD drive reports itself as CD-224E 9.9A and looks like the OEM >> drive. >> >> When I attempt to boot from the CD (dqbo) it sees a boot block, >> reports reading 1226 blocks from dqb0.0.1.13.0, goes through to >> setting affinity, reports jumping to bootstrap code, and then >> %SYSBOOT-E-LDFAIL, failed to load execlet, status = 00000054 >> >> What's going on here? Do I have a CD drive problem? A CPU problem? >> A duff copy of the OS? How do I tell? >> >> (If I need to MOP boot this puppy in order to be able to tell, can >> somebody point me to a step-by-step guide? I've never done MOP for >> anything but terminal servers and Xterms, and it's been a long time.) >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- Alan >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:49:16 GMT From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <00A71673.4C07D4AC@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> In article <07113002034056_202647DE@antinode.org>, sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) writes: >From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) > >> >> The CD drive reports itself as CD-224E 9.9A and looks like the OEM >> >> drive. >> > >> > Teac, or was it as reticent/vague-about-details as you? >> >> I can't really tell easily. The faceplate matches the battleship-gray box of >> the DS10. The drive is in a cage (with two other drives) which I don't see how >> to remove, and I can't see any details on the CD. I'm way more of a software >> person than a hardware person. > > Around here, ">>>SHOW DEVICE" reveals things like the maker: > >dqa0.0.0.107.0 DQA0 SONY DVD RW AW-Q170A 1.73 > When I said it reported itself as CD-224E 9.9A, I meant that's what was in the string on >>> SHOW DEVICE. Maybe this means the CD is messed up. >> I'll see if someone around here has a SCSI drive. > > Or break up an old PC and extract its IDE drive. It's just that if >you have one, an external drive can be easier to attach. > That's probably at the limit of my hardware skills. -- Alan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:47:47 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Gezelter Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: <1eebd497-4431-4693-b8ee-89bebc6a714f@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com> On Nov 30, 1:11 am, wins...@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) wrote: > VMSers -- > > So I have a DS10 that I bought from Island and left in a box for > months. (We foolishly bought it without a video card, and then I was > fussing with an unsupported old card for too long, and now I have a > nice ATI card that succeeds in driving a VGA display with the > console.) Any warranty is already over. > > Console software is 7.2-1 with a 2006 date. > > The CD drive reports itself as CD-224E 9.9A and looks like the OEM > drive. > > When I attempt to boot from the CD (dqbo) it sees a boot block, > reports reading 1226 blocks from dqb0.0.1.13.0, goes through to > setting affinity, reports jumping to bootstrap code, and then > %SYSBOOT-E-LDFAIL, failed to load execlet, status = 00000054 > > What's going on here? Do I have a CD drive problem? A CPU problem? > A duff copy of the OS? How do I tell? > > (If I need to MOP boot this puppy in order to be able to tell, can > somebody point me to a step-by-step guide? I've never done MOP for > anything but terminal servers and Xterms, and it's been a long time.) > > Thanks, > > -- Alan Alan, First, I would recommend doing some fundamentals. Since the machine was shipped from Georgia to California, I would do two things: - I would disconnect and re-connect each of the cables relating to the CDROM - I would bootstrap a different copy of the any usable version of the standalone CDROM - I would invest in a call to Island, with an explanation of your situation. I would not presume that they will not assist you. I would suspect dirt, a disconnected cable, or some other plebeian problem before I went on to the more exotics. - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:19:16 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: DS10: "failed to load execlet"? Message-ID: In article <00A7165D.408F7686@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) writes: > > >VMSers -- > >So I have a DS10 that I bought from Island and left in a box for >months. (We foolishly bought it without a video card, and then I was >fussing with an unsupported old card for too long, and now I have a >nice ATI card that succeeds in driving a VGA display with the >console.) Any warranty is already over. > >Console software is 7.2-1 with a 2006 date. > >The CD drive reports itself as CD-224E 9.9A and looks like the OEM >drive. > >When I attempt to boot from the CD (dqbo) it sees a boot block, >reports reading 1226 blocks from dqb0.0.1.13.0, goes through to >setting affinity, reports jumping to bootstrap code, and then >%SYSBOOT-E-LDFAIL, failed to load execlet, status = 00000054 > >What's going on here? Do I have a CD drive problem? A CPU problem? >A duff copy of the OS? How do I tell? > >(If I need to MOP boot this puppy in order to be able to tell, can >somebody point me to a step-by-step guide? I've never done MOP for >anything but terminal servers and Xterms, and it's been a long time.) Alan, Try booting with B -fl 0,30000 (assuming your boot root is 0) This will enable some VERY VERY VERBOSE bootstrap logging! Record this (and it will be vast) and then search for your error message in the log. This should help to pinpoint WHICH execlet (or driver) is in play when this error is emitted. Don't assume it is the CD until you are certain that it is the CD. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 2007 07:53:30 +0100 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) Subject: Re: GNV V2.1 (was: Re: [DFG T3.0] Internal error) Message-ID: <474fc17a$1@news.langstoeger.at> In article <474F5C60.7090707@comcast.net>, bradhamilton writes: >Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER wrote: >[...] >> Could be that GNV V2.1 was the culprit. I removed it, to remove the annoying >> endless loop ([VMS$COMMON.GNV.MNT.sysdevdiskvolnam.000000.000000.000000...]) >> to get a simple sysdisk PURGE working again, and now DFG works as I know it. >> Maybe, I find the time to prove this first assumption... > >They still haven't fixed GNV? I ran into the same problem in V2.0 and >earlier. I thought I was pretty smart not to install it on the system >disk when I was first using it, but I trashed my home directory (and >everything else on the GNV disk) by trying to remove GNV when I ran >across the "endless loop" problem - luckily, I had a pre-GNV backup. I successfully removed GNV V2.1, so at least, the deinstall problem is fixed (I trashed one system disk during GNV V2.0, too) but the endless loop problem is still there and I don't know how the solution will be then. I still don't see the real need for $ SET ROOT, but I see now a need for some modifiers or a modifier lexical function for the F$SEARCH one (or the other wildcard RMS functions which eg. the DIRECTORY command uses)... >I downloaded V2.1 recently to see if the problem might have been >resolved by now. Thanks for the heads-up! One needs to manually remove the [GNV.MNT]*.DIR links (don't know how, yet) and then GNV might still work, but the other problems should be gone. Right? -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:20:21 -0800 (PST) From: Infinitus Subject: Re: GUI Interface Designer Message-ID: <7b5d926c-b4c8-48f9-b637-8c9d29dc3f0c@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com> On Nov 28, 8:17 am, "David Turner, Island Computers" wrote: > I would use it at home if it had a GUI like Ubuntu ! > > DT"Michael Kraemer" wrote in message > > news:fij959$csd$02$1@news.t-online.com... > > > hailsnailtr...@gmail.com schrieb: > >> Hi there. I'm a very talented multimedia developer/artist, soon to be > >> entrepreneurial; who is looking to develop a professional network of > >> individuals whom are looking for graphical interface design services > >> in the operating system sector. > > >> I'm hoping that if anybody reads this, and is interested, that they > >> could maybe connect me to somebody interested in raising the bar on > >> their users gui experience. It would be excellent if somebody could > >> refer me to somebody involved in DECwindows / VMS development team, > >> that might be interested. > > > This comes about 15 years late, I'd say. > > DECwindows is history and the various > > owners of VMS have given up on VMS > > as a GUI-oriented OS. well I have a friend who's into VMS and he says, that they've updated a port of motif to vms, so I know there are minor things going on there. But as far as it being specific to GUI, i'd imagine I am perhaps a little bit of a dreamer... :D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: yyyc186 Subject: Re: HP loses another large customer Message-ID: <5481e772-e9be-446f-804f-4d30e3c8ab78@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> On Nov 26, 7:36 am, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote: > That is utterly absurd. Businesses have been running their operations > on Unix for decades. Until the advent of cheap PC's capable of running > Unix it was frequently done with the entire business on one machine. > Heck, Dennis Ritchie shared the machine he was developing Unix on with > people doing real business applications!!! > Point of order. When he did that the PDP was running RSX. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:33:18 -0800 (PST) From: yyyc186 Subject: Re: HP loses another large customer Message-ID: <6616fe04-ed11-426c-8d59-876a5f8aa714@s36g2000prg.googlegroups.com> On Nov 26, 10:05 am, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote: > Just becuase it needs the roor password to write things like > startup info in tot /etc (or other directories) does not mean > it is "reconfiguring the OS". I would bet that most applications > (like Oracle) require system access on VMS as well. I know > installing any compiler does. Are they also "reconfiguring the OS"? > Some modify SYSGEN parameters, others show you lines for you to modify. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:36:24 -0800 (PST) From: yyyc186 Subject: Re: HP loses another large customer Message-ID: On Nov 26, 10:46 am, Hein RMS van den Heuvel wrote: > And any half-decent Oracle install is likely to prompt system > configuration tweaks, but that's no different for OpenVMS either. I've > installed SAP and Oracle on the same (unix, and windows) boxes. Both > are major apps. Both require/encourage system config tweaks but those > mostly do not fight, but complement. /action ponders "half-decent" and Oracle being used in the same sentence. > > My gutfeel is that at this point in time OpenVMS is more nasty to set Your gut would be wrong. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:34:26 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: On Nov 30, 3:14 am, JF Mezei wrote: > Dr. Dweeb wrote: [...snip...] > > When Christopher Columbus set out, he was hoping to find a way to india > by going west. He didn't find what he was looking for. But he found > something totally unexpected. > I Agree. However, the same thing happened while preparing for Apollo. Preparing to go to the moon led to development of better on-board computer systems. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/recommended_books.html#journey What many anti-poverty groups viewed as a 25 billion dollar waste was really the trigger event which kicked off the microcomputer and internet businesses. (ps: Technological developments under NASA are mandated to go into the public domain; Military developments are not and tend to be locked away as defense secrets; so one type of investment has an economic ROI while the other type of investment does not) > Mankind is compelled to explore. From a kid wanting to take things > apart to see what is inside, or adults wanting to see new lands and > explore, it is a built-in need. > > Going to other planets and possibly finding other life forms is not an > economic activity, it is a humankind activity. It is money spent to make > us feel good, give us a feeling that mankind is evolving positively and > possibly might find something terribly exciting. And even if we don't > going to mars and coming back will be quite the accomplishement. > I agree but see my previous comment. During the 1960s while planning for Apollo, no one forsaw the invention of related technologies like the microprocessor, etc. > > Humans need challenges. Whether it is climbing everest, cycling across > australia or going to mars, it is a challenge. > > Going to mars is a difficult challenge because we don't quite yet have > the technology to go there and must develop and test it. The space > station is one such test. In and by itself, the station isn't going to > yield any fanstastic discoveries, but it will teach us how to build a > long term vehicle, how to live in such etc etc. If your goal is to climb > everest, you will likely start by climbing smaller mountains to test > your equipment and know yoru capabilities. > > Apollo (and the CEV/Constallation) will just be weekend camping trips to > the Moon. Humankind has been there, done that. Nothing new. > I'm not so sure I agree with this point of view. Mars missions are only possible every 22 months which a rescue mission impossible. On the flip side, the moon is only 3 days away so a rescue mission is always possible. (We need to learn how to swim in a pool before we attempt a lake crossing). Also, the moon offers so other interesting possibilities. For example, apparently China has an eye on the moon's supply of Helium-3. http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2007/10/chinas-new-moon.html Earlier this year, shortly after Russia claimed a vast portion of the Arctic sea floor, accelerating an international race for the natural resources as global warming opens polar access, China has announced plans to map "every inch" of the surface of the Moon and exploit the vast quantities of Helium-3 thought to lie buried in lunar rocks as part of its ambitious space-exploration program. [...snip...] NSR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:08:33 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: In article <474fa7bd$0$7608$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" writes: >Neil Rieck wrote: >> On Nov 28, 4:31 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>> In article >>> <303adb89-0e85-457b-861e-9ce261885...@g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, >>> Neil Rieck writes: >>> >> {...snip...} >>> . . snip . > >Firstly, it's a long time since I had a W2, so I have no vested interest in >this question ... > >Can someone give me one, clear, unequivocal reason why manned space flight >out of earth's orbit in any way justifies its cost relative to unmanned >missions (which are massively less expensive) to other solar system bodies? > Human beings are more flexible - both physically and mentally. The latter becomes even more important on more remote missions eg to Mars where the speed of light means human beings on earth have no direct near realtime control of machines on the Martian surface but have to rely on uploading commands and then waiting and hoping that everything then goes OK. Of course these requirements drive developments aimed at improving the abilities of such machines to cope on their own but we are nowhere near having what would really be required ie Human Level AI systems. Note. It isn't a choice between manned missions and unmanned missions both have their place. Another reason for manned missions is to prepare for eventual human colonisation of the solar system. You may dismiss this as Star Trek fantasy but why should humanity deny itself the resources of a whole Solar system ? David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University >Star Trek is TV, not reality. > >I simply do not see the benefit, other than political prestige. > > >Dweeb > > ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 2007 13:19:23 GMT From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <5ragurF139h2rU1@mid.individual.net> In article <2e0f3$474fc65d$cef8887a$6850@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei writes: > Dr. Dweeb wrote: >> Can someone give me one, clear, unequivocal reason why manned space flight >> out of earth's orbit in any way justifies its cost relative to unmanned >> missions (which are massively less expensive) to other solar system bodies? > > > When Christopher Columbus set out, he was hoping to find a way to india > by going west. He didn't find what he was looking for. But he found > something totally unexpected. Hardly. Christopher Columbus was much closer to NASA than most people give him credit for. He knew there was no direct westerly path to India. He conned Spain into financing a junket that could not possibly accomplish what he told them it would. Either that, or he was truly the biggest idiot the world has ever seen. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: OT: Grid Computing and HP? Message-ID: <0b48c2ef-7d97-4e6b-aef1-35cfca66ad2a@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Nov 26, 2:07 pm, Neil Rieck wrote: > [...snip...] OK so it looks like HP employees are unofficially contributing to Folding@home. Fri Nov 30 06:00:00 PST 2007 team # team name score wu ------- --------------------- --------- ------ 2654 Hewlett Packard 34166468 228575 45862 PlanetAMD64 25900280 78049 999 Microsoft 5458908 29876 711 Intel 4079143 19705 11142 IBM 2800487 17863 10097 Sun Microsystems 191414 931 604 Motorola 93717 1162 53769 Advanced Micro Devices 1650 2546 10617 DEC 7 2 I'm not sure if Carly would approve of them using "Hewlett Packard" over "HP" :-) Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada.http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:22:03 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Jordan Subject: Re: OT: Grid Computing and HP? Message-ID: <02544152-80ad-49b0-900d-da609a549293@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> On Nov 30, 9:56 am, Neil Rieck wrote: > On Nov 26, 2:07 pm, Neil Rieck wrote: > > > > [...snip...] > > OK so it looks like HP employees are unofficially contributing to > Folding@home. > > Fri Nov 30 06:00:00 PST 2007 > team # team name score wu > ------- --------------------- --------- ------ > 2654 Hewlett Packard 34166468 228575 > 45862 PlanetAMD64 25900280 78049 > 999 Microsoft 5458908 29876 > 711 Intel 4079143 19705 > 11142 IBM 2800487 17863 > 10097 Sun Microsystems 191414 931 > 604 Motorola 93717 1162 > 53769 Advanced Micro Devices 1650 2546 > 10617 DEC 7 2 > > I'm not sure if Carly would approve of them using "Hewlett Packard" > over "HP" > > :-) > > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, > Ontario, Canada.http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ Team DEC? That would be one worth joining... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:21:34 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: RFC: Cluster status on a mobile handset Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca] Sent: November 28, 2007 4:56 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com Subject: Re: RFC: Cluster status on a mobile handset Uusim=E4ki wrote: > Really cool application! Works fine on my Nokia E90. Thanks. Good to know that other handsets can handle it. .snip.. Cool - Btw, way cool demo I remember was on of the Eng folks had a large Alpha GS1= 280 being controlled with iPaq. The demo showed the Engineer using the iPaq to = move CPU`s among different logical partitions in a Galaxy environment. Regards Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:42:36 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: Testing username/password from DCL Message-ID: <3d7d92ac-f09f-4779-95ea-f2d99e8311ef@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> On Nov 28, 5:05 pm, JF Mezei wrote: [...snip...] > > Web servers validate username/passwords to gain access to protected > pages. But they won't check if a user has sufficient privileges to run > perform certain tasks. > > But come to think of it, one can setup access controls limited to certan > users only, even on OSU, so you could limit it to say "SYSTEM" and other > username/password combis would be rejected even if they are valid passwords. True. My employer's users (mostly technicians and clerks) look at IE/Apache as just another way to get onto our system (they usually enter in VT200 mode via Reflections but some prefer IE). So we've got to get them to log-in just so we know who they are for logging purposes (we log all changes to our ticketing databases). Whether they are challenged via the Apache module "auth_openvms_module" or directly via the served-up application (which them must have sufficient privs to inspect SYSUAF) doesn't make much difference. Now if you were running a public web app like Amazon.com you wouldn't expect each person to have an entry in SYSUAF (or whatever the equiv would be on that system). You would do it in some sort of customer database. In this case you have priv login mechanism for sysops, DBAs, etc. We use these too and do it through 3 different protected script directories: public, semi-private, private. NSR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:18:31 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Subject: Re: Update on Friday's Blade Short take Message-ID: <7324e20a-2f96-45bf-ba1c-5c4b793261cd@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Nov 27, 9:09 pm, Sue wrote: > Thank you very much for everyone that has signed up for Friday's Blade > web cast. HP has gotten a larger room as a result of customer > participation. Just in case you are not part of my email list here is > the original note that went out. > > This is one of my favorites because it is the first OpenVMS Short take > and this training is not usually offered for free so customers really > win. There is a VMS Blade session being offered for FREE by HP through > the Technical On Line Seminar grouphttp://www.hp.com/hps/tos/ > > OpenVMS on Blades: Updates and Futures (Short Take event) > > This 1-hour training event focuses on the OpenVMS 8.3-1H1 release and > its support of c-Class Integrity HP Blade System environments. Topics > include supported Blade System servers, storage, IO interconnects, > boot options, system management support, and operating system > provisioning. Also covered are future OpenVMS Blade System support > plans. > > The seminar is aimed at system administrators who manage c-Class Blade > System environments. Basic knowledge of OpenVMS and c-Class blades > will aid understanding of seminar material. > > Offered: November 30, 2007 > Register for this event:http://www.hp.com/hps/tos/shorttake/registration.htm This session is now in process. Thank you very much for your support. sue ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 2007 08:08:57 +0100 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) Subject: Re: [DFG T3.0] Internal error Message-ID: <474fc519@news.langstoeger.at> In article , "Jerry Alan Braga" writes: >what is the diff of dfg versus dfu ? I am using dfu 3.2 on openVMS alpha >8.3 DFG is DEFRAGger or (supported) Disk File Optimizer (DFO) of VMS engineering. DFU are the Disk&File Utilities (Freeware) of a former VMS engineer (which - like LDDRIVER - is now homed at http://www.digiater.nl) -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.656 ************************