INFO-VAX Mon, 07 Apr 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 195 Contents: DNS problems FYi Re: Does POWER_OFF really work ? Re: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and Telecom Markets Mark RE: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and Telecom Markets Re: Point Secure and SQL admin toolset spam Re: Power off does work Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Scripting SET HOST/DUP with Kermit (or other)? Re: System Programming Resources for Alpha Architecture Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign. yet another compress question Re: yet another compress question Re: yet another compress question Re: yet another compress question Re: yet another compress question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:20:35 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: DNS problems FYi Message-ID: We had some DNS problems over the weekend. Seems we didn't renew our islandco.com url listing. It's up now so to all those that MAY have worried (yeah right!) it is back up -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:39:03 +0200 From: "P. Sture" Subject: Re: Does POWER_OFF really work ? Message-ID: In article <45895c6b-18be-41d4-889a-a0ec935aa3d1@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, DaveG wrote: > While what you and others have said is no doubt true, I think the > purpose of the earth day excercise was more a public awareness thing > than coal Vs nuke Vs hydro and thermodynamics, etc. > > If it got people thinking about not leaving a light on when not needed > or similar, then it accomplished something. > > As I mentioned earlier in this thread it's a start. As a case in point I once moved from a small apartment with electric cooker and electric water heating to a largish house with gas cooker and water heating. I could not understand why my electricity bill went up until I realised I was leaving a lot more lights on. -- Paul Sture Sue's OpenVMS bookmarks: http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~sture/ovms-bookmarks.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 01:37:43 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and Telecom Markets Mark Message-ID: <5a96ae37-0f89-4fa4-a0df-12c0d9fb9cfd@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> The smaller blade enclosure was specifically aimed at the SME market. Remember there is extra storage and tape drives that fit into these blade enclosures. It not just a box with servers in it. The VMS licence for the blade is the cheapest level of licence. IIRC =A3700 per core for FOE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:05:06 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and Telecom Markets Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: IanMiller [mailto:gxys@uk2.net] > Sent: April 7, 2008 4:38 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and > Telecom Markets Markets Markets > > The smaller blade enclosure was specifically aimed at the SME market. > Remember there is extra storage and tape drives that fit into these > blade enclosures. It not just a box with servers in it. > > The VMS licence for the blade is the cheapest level of licence. IIRC > =A3700 per core for FOE Just want to emphasize that the larger blades are not just for small-med businesses when you consider their spec's: - dual core (4 cpu) - 96GB memory - dual FC connectivity - 2 x dual GB network (4 ports total) http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/integrity-bl/c-class/870c/index.= html Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-254-8911 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. Regards ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) From: jd@idera.com Subject: Re: Point Secure and SQL admin toolset spam Message-ID: <0a75b1c3-75f2-42f2-b996-8a70f7c17425@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> I think I'm the one that supposed to be wearing the pointy headed hat! The ones we give away are just simple ballcaps. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:31:48 -0600 From: John Nebel Subject: Re: Power off does work Message-ID: <47FA4C74.4060707@csdco.com> David J Dachtera wrote: > John Nebel wrote: >> ... in spite of the many doubters >> >> How many minutes until final shutdown [0]: >> Reason for shutdown [Standalone]: >> Do you want to spin down the disk volumes [NO]? >> Do you want to invoke the site-specific shutdown procedure [YES]? >> Should an automatic system reboot be performed [NO]? >> When will the system be rebooted [later]: >> Shutdown options (enter as a comma-separated list): >> REMOVE_NODE Remaining nodes in the cluster should adjust quorum >> CLUSTER_SHUTDOWN Entire cluster is shutting down >> REBOOT_CHECK Check existence of basic system files >> SAVE_FEEDBACK Save AUTOGEN feedback information from this boot >> DISABLE_AUTOSTART Disable autostart queues >> POWER_OFF Request console to power-off the system >> >> Shutdown options [NONE]: reb,power >> >> [cut] >> >> waiting for poll to complete pga0.0.0.1.1 >> ..Poll done >> >> SYSTEM SHUTDOWN COMPLETE >> >> halted CPU 0 >> >> halt code = 5 >> HALT instruction executed >> PC = ffffffff8008db24 >> >> POWER OFF - return to MBM to continue system operation >> >> ~PCO-I-(pco_00) Powering off partition. HP: Default_HP >> [2008/04/07 20:04:06] >> ~PCO-I-(pco_00) Preparing to power off partition. HP: Default_HP >> The DUO is powered down >> >> MBM> sho power >> Cabinet OCP switch position: ON >> >> Cab Drw Type Power Fan WPI/SDI PS/VRM Temperature( C) Voltage >> 0123456 0123 0123456789ABC 0 1 2 3 >> 0 0 SBB OFF pp..... p... ppp.......... 36.0 24.0 .... .... p >> 0 0 DUO0 OFF ....... .... ppppp...ppppp 33.5 34.3 35.2 .... p >> 0 0 DUO1 OFF ....... .... ppppp...ppppp 34.0 36.9 36.1 .... p >> 0 4 PCI OFF ppp.... .... pp........... 35.0 30.0 30.5 22.5 p > > Hhmmm... Looks like a GS1280. Is it? > > David J Dachtera > (formerly dba) DJE Systems David, you are correct. John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:21:48 +0200 From: "P. Sture" Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: In article , m.kraemer@gsi.de (Michael Kraemer) wrote: > In article , Glenn Everhart > writes: > > > Amigas have had "say" since the mid 1980s too. Nice, but an added wrinkle > > was added for one of the later AmigaDos versions: a pseudo device speak: > > which > > could be written to as an ordinary sequential device and would speak > > whatever > > was written to it. That made it pretty trivial to take almost any program > > and add the ability for it to speak things. > > Yes, but it spoke (OK, my Amiga 1000 still speaks) with a strong US accent. > It took me quite some time to find out the character sequence > to pronounce German words correctly, ... Agreed about the accent. I had a neighbour called Oliver who had one and it pronounced his name "Oh-live-er" (the "live" pronounced as in "live performance"). > i.e. important ones such as "Scheisse", among others. :-) -- Paul Sture Sue's OpenVMS bookmarks: http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~sture/ovms-bookmarks.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:12:24 +0200 From: "P. Sture" Subject: Re: Scripting SET HOST/DUP with Kermit (or other)? Message-ID: In article , John Santos wrote: > In article 24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, mckinneyj@saic.com says... > > On Apr 2, 11:30 am, Ken.Fairfi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Apr 2, 6:48 am, Jim wrote: > > > [...] > > > > > > > You'll want to check out HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA or HSDSA-SCRIPT-VAX . > > > > Seehttp://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do;HP-FORUM > > > > ... > > > > or use google and search for the name of your choice. > > > > > > Thanks for the pointer(s).  I found Hoff's VMS_CHECK.ZIP > > > via Google for HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA on the ITRC System > > > Management forum and have downloaded it.  I'll try later > > > today to extract HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA from it (I'm not > > > sure I want to install the whole kit yet...). > > > > > >    Thanks again, Ken > > > > > > I think that HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA alone will be adequate for what you're > > doing. > > > > - Jim > > > > If that doesn't pan out, maybe this would work with Kermit: > > 1) in Kermit, telnet 0 (local host) > > 2) log in, using your own username and password (unfortunately, I > can't think of any easy way to avoid putting the password in the > script.) [1] > Would putting the password in a suitably protected logical name table work here? > 3) once logged in, output (send to the telnet connection) the > "set host/dup..." command > > 4) follow with your various "show ..." commands, parsing and/or > logging the results as needed. > > 5) exit from set host/dup (ctrl/], IIRC) > > 6) log off the telnet session > > All this can be done in a Kermit script, and to "set host/dup" > and to the HSJ looks like you are typing it all interactively. > > [1] C-Kermit supports SSH, but I don't think this is implemented > in the latest VMS version. If so, use that. If not, I'm sure > Frank would appreciate your implementing it! :-) > > HTH -- Paul Sture Sue's OpenVMS bookmarks: http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~sture/ovms-bookmarks.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:47:14 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: System Programming Resources for Alpha Architecture Message-ID: On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:32:58 -0700, wrote: > On Apr 6, 12:54 am, "Tom Linden" wrote: >> On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:59:43 -0700, wrote: >> > I've made a nice little collection of alpha programming related lin= ks >> > on my site:http://mattst88.com/?page=3Dlinks#alpha >> > Hope you find them useful. >> >> In the VMS world SDL was something useful. Why are you posting this = = >> here? >> >> -- >> PL/I for OpenVMSwww.kednos.com > > I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. > > I posted a collections of relevant links I've gathered about > programming for alpha. What did I do wrong? Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anything relevant to VMS and as John mentioned SDL is the language neutral declaration language on VMS. -- = PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:28:09 +0200 From: "P. Sture" Subject: Re: VMS Mail translates incoming tilde character into a dollar sign. Message-ID: In article <1d5a0473-4dee-4cf2-b05f-ce6f867fd41b@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, IanMiller wrote: > Patch VMS83I_MAILSHR-V0100 has been announced, I expect the patches > for other versions will follow. I see corresponding patches for VMS732, VMS82A and VMS83A available as of 5-Apr-2008 on the ITRC site. -- Paul Sture Sue's OpenVMS bookmarks: http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~sture/ovms-bookmarks.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 04:03:02 -0700 (PDT) From: parnold@bellfruitgames.co.uk Subject: yet another compress question Message-ID: <909ac93b-fc4f-466c-a61b-94cc752d058a@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me... I need to decompress some files which where compressed using a program called 'compress' which we were running on a vax/vms system in the early 90's. Unfortunately we no longer have a fax and I'm unable to find any program which will decompress the files. Looking into the files shows the first two bytes as 1F 9E whereas 1F 9D seems to be common for the compression utils I've found so far. Does anyone know of anything which can decompress these files (preferably running under dos but linux would be ok too. Thanks Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 06:46:07 -0500 (CDT) From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: yet another compress question Message-ID: <08040706460759_2020CE0A@antinode.org> From: parnold@bellfruitgames.co.uk > I need to decompress some files which where compressed using a program > called 'compress' which we were running on a vax/vms system in the > early 90's. > Unfortunately we no longer have a fax and I'm unable to find any > program which will decompress the files. > Looking into the files shows the first two bytes as 1F 9E whereas 1F > 9D seems to be common for the compression utils I've found so far. > > Does anyone know of anything which can decompress these files > (preferably running under dos but linux would be ok too. What's a typical file name? Did you explore "mam compress" on Linux? Seeing more than the first two bytes of a file might be more useful than just that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steven M. Schweda sms@antinode-org 382 South Warwick Street (+1) 651-699-9818 Saint Paul MN 55105-2547 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 05:39:57 -0700 (PDT) From: parnold@bellfruitgames.co.uk Subject: Re: yet another compress question Message-ID: <9ebf70d1-d261-47f4-8c21-e7c79d93ef69@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> > > =A0 =A0What's a typical file name? =A0Did you explore "mam compress" on Li= nux? > Seeing more than the first two bytes of a file might be more useful than > just that. > Thanks for your reply. I don't think the filenames don't help as it seems we named them ourselves. So, readme.txt would become readme.txtcmp etc. I believe compress on linux as been investigated but I've only just been drafted in on this as the original person is away. The first few bytes from one file are show below. My limited understand of this is that the first two bytes are typically a header. eg, 1F 8B is used by gzip files. 1F 9D by some lzw compressed files =46rom the files I've got the first 31 bytes are the same, not that I think that helps at all. Thanks for your time. Paul 1f 9e 90 05 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 76 da cc 21 11 86 0e 1d 39 69 c4 d4 a1 53 66 0e 88 1b 36 70 ec 18 98 84 48 11 27 54 12 88 88 71 a3 45 10 28 52 5a c4 c8 91 23 06 88 18 35 74 c0 c0 a1 43 86 0c 10 32 ad 04 c1 f2 c2 4a 93 29 20 8c 10 61 42 e2 48 c6 22 52 82 50 29 02 42 ca 9b 87 69 dc 94 11 b1 63 c7 94 2c 53 8a 36 d9 91 60 ca 93 2a 52 86 18 95 e9 f5 2b 58 af 34 6d e2 9c f2 d4 48 12 26 45 ac 06 61 c2 e4 c9 10 a2 49 9e 38 09 6b 37 25 8e 1c 56 85 14 99 fa 85 8a 94 2c 5f 86 d0 a5 92 e4 48 95 ac 3a bf ba 79 b3 b7 ca 90 25 45 a8 7c 99 92 44 4b d7 bb 5e 61 58 25 ac f1 70 e2 2a 8b 35 7b 6d 6c 15 a3 11 a1 52 8a 10 f9 72 45 4a 92 a2 a4 4d 27 28 82 a5 a8 13 cb 74 49 83 e5 9c e0 c8 5b 21 6d bf 08 a9 62 24 b5 94 c1 59 35 f6 b6 da 84 b2 90 b7 91 2b 5f ce 7c b7 46 0c 19 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:07:34 +0200 From: "P. Sture" Subject: Re: yet another compress question Message-ID: In article <909ac93b-fc4f-466c-a61b-94cc752d058a@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, parnold@bellfruitgames.co.uk wrote: > Hi, > > I'm hoping someone can help me... > I need to decompress some files which where compressed using a program > called 'compress' which we were running on a vax/vms system in the > early 90's. > Unfortunately we no longer have a fax and I'm unable to find any > program which will decompress the files. > Looking into the files shows the first two bytes as 1F 9E whereas 1F > 9D seems to be common for the compression utils I've found so far. > > Does anyone know of anything which can decompress these files > (preferably running under dos but linux would be ok too. > > Thanks > Paul Have you had a look at this one? http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/freewarev40/compress_vms/ -- Paul Sture Sue's OpenVMS bookmarks: http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~sture/ovms-bookmarks.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: parnold@bellfruitgames.co.uk Subject: Re: yet another compress question Message-ID: <7e9dce16-75b9-47f4-9d26-da9af8348777@n14g2000pri.googlegroups.com> On Apr 7, 3:07=A0pm, "P. Sture" wrote: > In article > <909ac93b-fc4f-466c-a61b-94cc752d0...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > =A0parn...@bellfruitgames.co.uk wrote: > > Hi, > > > I'm hoping someone can help me... > > I need to decompress some files which where compressed using a program > > called 'compress' which we were running on a vax/vms system in the > > early 90's. > > Unfortunately we no longer have a fax and I'm unable to find any > > program which will decompress the files. > > Looking into the files shows the first two bytes as 1F 9E whereas 1F > > 9D seems to be common for the compression utils I've found so far. > > > Does anyone know of anything which can decompress these files > > (preferably running under dos but linux would be ok too. > > > Thanks > > Paul > > Have you had a look at this one? > > http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/freewarev40/compress_vms/ > > -- > Paul Sture Yes, unfortunately it expects the first 2 "magic bytes" to be 1F 9D :( Paul ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.195 ************************