INFO-VAX Wed, 21 May 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 282 Contents: Re: FTPand SSH security Re: FTPand SSH security Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Re: SMTP_EXCMAXHOP Re: SMTP_EXCMAXHOP Re: VAX Media Re: VAX Media Re: VAX Media Re: VAX Media Re: VAX Media ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 20 May 2008 16:36:39 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: FTPand SSH security Message-ID: In article , Gremlin writes: > Standard HP stack....I have set the tcpip$ftp_server_announce, but the > version still displays.... Ah, there's you problem. It shoud read: Substandard HP stack ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:23:55 +1000 From: Gremlin Subject: Re: FTPand SSH security Message-ID: Bob Koehler wrote: > In article , Gremlin writes: > >> Standard HP stack....I have set the tcpip$ftp_server_announce, but the >> version still displays.... > > Ah, there's you problem. It shoud read: > > Substandard HP stack ... > Ouch!!! I suppose the issue of Nessus and others identifying the SSH version being at risk would be solved by another stack as well? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:53:03 -0400 From: "John Smith" Subject: Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Message-ID: <48fa4$48331db1$cef885ca$29029@TEKSAVVY.COM-Free> Speaking of the 'dead' ... http://www.newsweek.com/id/136922 McCain's Economic Brain Why Carly Fiorina is so important to his campaign. ..."Fiorina is also working as a McCain surrogate partly because she hasn't landed another executive job since she bounced from HP." Read the rest of the article at the link above. "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:482c3ebb$0$12323$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > >> If you look on the HP website (which I did Tuesday night), the website >> says that it will be branded "EDS - An HP Company" > > Ars Technica had a blurb about that. It seems it will remain a separate > division with its own headquarters in whatecver city they are now > headquartered, and not be melted into HP. They will only streamline > administrative functions. > > So no quick integration "ā la Carly". > > But, my guess is that "remains a separate division" may not last many > years. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:35:44 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Message-ID: <027e862d$0$25055$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> John Smith wrote: > Speaking of the 'dead' ... > > http://www.newsweek.com/id/136922 > McCain's Economic Brain > Why Carly Fiorina is so important to his campaign. > > ..."Fiorina is also working as a McCain surrogate partly because she hasn't > landed another executive job since she bounced from HP." Imagine if La Carly is asked to be VP for McCain. It would be La Carly against Hillary in the VP debates. (can you spell "cat fight" ? :-) Now, if La Carly runs as VP, the media will start to use Google and find out all the complaints people had against la Carly while she was at HP, namely the mishandling of VMS. And perhaps the media might start to wonder why HP didn't even try to make VMS a success. The media treat her with white gloves, because it would be politically incorrect to question a female's business savvy and/or competence. But if she were a man, the media would have no problem criticising her capabilities. But it would not surprise me one bit that she would weasel her way into the VP position with McCain. She's got nothing to lose since they are pretty sure to lose anyways. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: jgar the jorrible Subject: Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Message-ID: <5469966b-6f95-4f0e-8ad2-cbee498d0793@g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> On May 20, 1:35=A0pm, JF Mezei wrote: > John Smith wrote: > > Speaking of the 'dead' ... > > >http://www.newsweek.com/id/136922 > > McCain's Economic Brain > > Why Carly Fiorina is so important to his campaign. > > > ..."Fiorina is also working as a McCain surrogate partly because she has= n't > > landed another executive job since she bounced from HP." > > Imagine if La Carly is asked to be VP for McCain. It would be La Carly > against Hillary in the VP debates. (can you spell "cat fight" ? :-) LOL! > > Now, if La Carly runs as VP, the media will start to use Google and find > out all the complaints people had against la Carly while she was at HP, > namely the mishandling of VMS. And perhaps the media might start to > wonder why HP didn't even try to make VMS a success. I doubt that, only VMS people care. > > The media treat her with white gloves, because it would be politically > incorrect to question a female's business savvy and/or competence. But > if she were a man, the media would have no problem criticising her > capabilities. Come on, people jump on Hillary all the time. Umm, I mean... > > But it would not surprise me one bit that she would weasel her way into > the VP position with McCain. She's got nothing to lose since they are > pretty sure to lose anyways. One can only hope. Anyways, getting back to the off-topic, I was a contract DBA in a big gummint shop when EDS won the netadmin contract, giving all the gummint netadmins a choice: goto work for EDS with no guarantee you won't be transferred somewhere else much less desireable in a relatively short time, or take whatever the gummint will give you. Naturally, all the single moms and PTSD war vets chose to take whatever the gummint would give. It was situation _abnormal_, AFU, some of them may have been ok netadmins, but definitely not the other things (especially DBA work). I've worked for other companies like CSC and PRC, they're all cheap bastards by necessity, but EDS seemed that much worse. jg -- @home.com is bogus. TKB forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:22:58 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: SMTP_EXCMAXHOP Message-ID: <483333df$0$12270$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > Hi. > > The HELP /MESS for SMTP_EXCMAXHOP says : > > > Explanation: > > The number of RFCs received by headers in an > > incoming mail message exceeded the SMTP > > configuration's HOP_COUNT_MAXIMUM setting. > > I've been looking for that setting, but can't > find it. Any thoughts ? The sky is blue. (you did ask for *any* thought :-) TCPIP HELP SET CONF SMTP /HOP_COUNT_MAXIMUM Managing TCPIP Services is an artform because parts are done via TCPIP and parts are done in unix-like configuration files. This one isn't in the SMTP.CONFIG file :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 22:09:26 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: SMTP_EXCMAXHOP Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: >> Hi. >> >> The HELP /MESS for SMTP_EXCMAXHOP says : >> >> > Explanation: >> > The number of RFCs received by headers in an >> > incoming mail message exceeded the SMTP >> > configuration's HOP_COUNT_MAXIMUM setting. >> >> I've been looking for that setting, but can't >> find it. Any thoughts ? > > > The sky is blue. (you did ask for *any* thought :-) > > > TCPIP HELP SET CONF SMTP /HOP_COUNT_MAXIMUM > > Managing TCPIP Services is an artform because parts are done via TCPIP > and parts are done in unix-like configuration files. This one isn't in > the SMTP.CONFIG file :-) Which was where I first looked of course ! :-) Jan-Erik. ------------------------------ Date: 20 May 2008 18:47:14 GMT From: AJ Schroeder Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: bradhamilton wrote in news:48308A9E.40100@comcast.net: > AJ Schroeder wrote: >> Hello group, >> >> I just aquired a VAX 6000 from a dumpster dive and I went to >> www.openvmshobbyist.org to try and get the installation media it says >> that they are out of stock. Does anyone know where I could get >> installation media for VAX? Or do I even need it if I am planning on >> using it as a satellite node in an alpha cluster? > > Where are you located? > I am locted just outside Milwaukee, WI ------------------------------ Date: 20 May 2008 18:48:48 GMT From: AJ Schroeder Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: "Stanley F. Quayle" wrote in news:48306068.27845.D8622A@infovax.stanq.com: > AJ Schroeder wrote: >> Or do I even need it if I am planning on using it as a >> satellite node in an alpha cluster? > > The VAX is a completely different processor. So you'll need the VAX > version of VMS to install on it, not the Alpha (nor the Itanium). > > What version of VMS are the Alphas running? You'll want to install > something reasonably comparable. > > --Stan Quayle > Quayle Consulting Inc. > > ---------- > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ Toll free: 1-888-I-LUV-VAX > 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH 43147 USA > stan-at-stanq-dot-com http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html > "OpenVMS, when downtime is not an option" > > Well, the Alpha that I am running is currently running 8.2, I was planning on installing 8.3, but the latest version for the VAX isn't close to 8.2 or 8.3. Should I re-install VMS 7.3 on my Alpha? ------------------------------ Date: 20 May 2008 18:50:00 GMT From: AJ Schroeder Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: "Tom Linden" wrote in news:op.ubek12sxhv4qyg@murphus: > On Sun, 18 May 2008 12:47:01 -0700, AJ Schroeder > wrote: > >> Hello group, >> >> I just aquired a VAX 6000 from a dumpster dive and I went to >> www.openvmshobbyist.org to try and get the installation media it says >> that >> they are out of stock. Does anyone know where I could get installation >> media for VAX? Or do I even need it if I am planning on using it as a >> satellite node in an alpha cluster? >> >> Thanks, >> >> AJ > Which version are you looking for? > > I would be looking for the latest version for the VAX, which I hear is 7.3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:24:34 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: <4833343f$0$12270$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> AJ Schroeder wrote: > Should I re-install VMS 7.3 on my Alpha? NO ! You can keep 8.3 on Alpha. It will coexists with 7.3 on VAX. Just be aware that not all DCL features available at 8.3 are available on VAX. ------------------------------ Date: 20 May 2008 21:17:10 GMT From: AJ Schroeder Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote in news:4833343f$0$12270 $c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com: > AJ Schroeder wrote: > >> Should I re-install VMS 7.3 on my Alpha? > > NO ! You can keep 8.3 on Alpha. It will coexists with 7.3 on VAX. Just > be aware that not all DCL features available at 8.3 are available on VAX. Alright, that saved me some work - whew! I suppose that makes sense that not all features will work the way I want them to, are there some major caveats that would make life painful? ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.282 ************************