INFO-VAX Wed, 21 May 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 283 Contents: Re: /DENSITY=what? for Ultrium tapes on 8.3 Alpha? Re: Easiest text processing on a Windoz PC ? Re: Easiest text processing on a Windoz PC ? Re: FTPand SSH security Re: FTPand SSH security Re: Ip address blocking by country Re: Migrating OVMS to Integrity? nagios/nrpe for VMS heads-up OT: air-con redundancy? Re: OT: air-con redundancy? Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Re: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Re: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Re: VAX Media Re: VAX Media ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 22:58:08 -0800 From: glen herrmannsfeldt Subject: Re: /DENSITY=what? for Ultrium tapes on 8.3 Alpha? Message-ID: Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: > Just got an MSL4048, which has Ultrium LTO4 (1.6 tb per cartridge) drives. > If I init a tape, should I just let it sit at default density? None of the > options in help init/density look really good - SDLT320 is the highest. Would > that match? LTO is supposed to be able to write one lower and read one or two lower. Drives know which type of cartridge is inserted, and will write appropriate for that cartridge. You can't write a density different from the cartridge design. -- glen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:14:38 -0800 From: glen herrmannsfeldt Subject: Re: Easiest text processing on a Windoz PC ? Message-ID: <4fCdnUZWpeEjIK7VnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@comcast.com> Didier_Toulouse wrote: > Today, when I need to remove duplicates from an EXCEL sheet 30.000 > lines long, I have to build a .csv, upload it to a VMS machine, do a > sort, then a merge/nodup then bring back the resulting file to my PC > and load it back to EXCEL. > What would be the easiest tool/language to use to do text processing > on a Windows machine pls? Download unxutils from sourceforge.net, which contains the gnu utilities compiled to run under win32. sort -u -o outfile infile will sort the file and output only one of any duplicate lines. -- glen ------------------------------ Date: 21 May 2008 08:51:50 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Easiest text processing on a Windoz PC ? Message-ID: In article <4fCdnUZWpeEjIK7VnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@comcast.com>, glen herrmannsfeldt writes: > Didier_Toulouse wrote: > >> Today, when I need to remove duplicates from an EXCEL sheet 30.000 >> lines long, I have to build a .csv, upload it to a VMS machine, do a >> sort, then a merge/nodup then bring back the resulting file to my PC >> and load it back to EXCEL. > >> What would be the easiest tool/language to use to do text processing >> on a Windows machine pls? > > Download unxutils from sourceforge.net, which contains the > gnu utilities compiled to run under win32. Or download cygwin from cygwin.org and have at least an emulated UNIX environment to handle all sorts of these issues. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 04:12:57 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: FTPand SSH security Message-ID: On Mon, 19 May 2008 18:02:57 -0700, Gremlin wrote: > Hi All and many thanks for the help with FailSafe-IP. > > Is it possible to change/disable the identifier shown when making an FTP > connection to VMS? SYS$WELCOME and SYS$ANNOUNCE can be changed, but is > there such a thing so that VMS won't display what it is when making an > FTP connection? > > Cheers If you use hgftp it is a logical. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: 21 May 2008 08:48:22 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: FTPand SSH security Message-ID: <1CbNwQYSaVsL@eisner.encompasserve.org> In article , Gremlin writes: > > I suppose the issue of Nessus and others identifying the SSH version > being at risk would be solved by another stack as well? Nessus is a favorite amoungst the Windows/UNIX security folks, but it doesn't know jack about DEC hardware, netowrk protocols, VMS, or third party IP stacks. Unfortunately Nessus thinks it knows and generates a great many false positives which the security "experts" then troll around. I've been gratefull that my local secutiry experts realised thier own lack of expertice. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:25:52 -0800 From: glen herrmannsfeldt Subject: Re: Ip address blocking by country Message-ID: <4fCdnUFWpeHAXa7VnZ2dnUVZ_tbinZ2d@comcast.com> JF Mezei wrote: > It gets worse. At least one ISP in Australia is owned by a large telecom > firm in the USA, and they are handing out USA IP addresses to their > australian customers. (ozemail if I remember right). IP addresses don't belong to countries, but are allocated through ISPs (usually). With multinational organizations and private networks an IP range can easily cross countries or continents. A global ISP would allocate to many countries. -- glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 04:16:28 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: Migrating OVMS to Integrity? Message-ID: On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:50:28 -0700, David Turner, Island Computers wrote: > I wonder if he knows that the ES45 is not an Integrity server? > > He said upgrading :-) -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:07:33 -0700 (PDT) From: charles.durfee@bassett.org Subject: nagios/nrpe for VMS heads-up Message-ID: Nagios' nrpe is on my VMS 7.3-2 systems but I couldn't enable the service in TCPIP Services. OPCOM mentioned "INTERnet ACP Error during process startup, Nolisten Service Disabled - NRPED Server". The solution was to add /FLAG=LISTEN to the recommended TCPIP SET command in the Nagios howto.txt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 11:17:03 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: OT: air-con redundancy? Message-ID: <20080521101703.GA83784@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Our supercomp (bris.ac.uk/acrc/hpc.htm) is out of service once again: "Dear all, the MVB machine room suffered a total air-con failure this morning leading to BlueCrystal effecting its automatic shutdown procedure. Estates are currently tracing the cause and thus we can't at present give an expected time for resumption of service." I wonder, in the disaster tolerant world, do you budget for the air-con redundancy as well? If yes, do you put a second, redundant air-con system in the same machine room, or just failover to another air conditioned machine room? thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 06:38:47 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: OT: air-con redundancy? Message-ID: <5_qdneuPSPuXYa7VnZ2dnUVZ_orinZ2d@comcast.com> Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Our supercomp (bris.ac.uk/acrc/hpc.htm) is out of service once again: > > "Dear all, the MVB machine room suffered a total air-con failure > this morning leading to BlueCrystal effecting its automatic > shutdown procedure. Estates are currently tracing the cause and thus > we can't at present give an expected time for resumption of service." > > I wonder, in the disaster tolerant world, do you budget for the > air-con redundancy as well? If yes, do you put a second, redundant > air-con system in the same machine room, or just failover to another > air conditioned machine room? > Most of the places I worked at had redundant, either dual or N+1, air conditioning systems. It doesn't always work! One place had two failures in the same day. Naturally, it was the hottest day of the year! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 06:20:33 -0400 From: Bob Willard Subject: Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Message-ID: John Smith wrote: > Speaking of the 'dead' ... > > http://www.newsweek.com/id/136922 > McCain's Economic Brain > Why Carly Fiorina is so important to his campaign. > > ..."Fiorina is also working as a McCain surrogate partly because she hasn't > landed another executive job since she bounced from HP." > > Read the rest of the article at the link above. > Gag. Yet another reason to vote against McBush. -- Cheers, Bob ------------------------------ Date: 21 May 2008 08:44:47 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Message-ID: In article <5469966b-6f95-4f0e-8ad2-cbee498d0793@g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, jgar the jorrible writes: > > Anyways, getting back to the off-topic, I was a contract DBA in a big > gummint shop when EDS won the netadmin contract, giving all the > gummint netadmins a choice: goto work for EDS with no guarantee you > won't be transferred somewhere else much less desireable in a > relatively short time, or take whatever the gummint will give you. > Naturally, all the single moms and PTSD war vets chose to take > whatever the gummint would give. It was situation _abnormal_, AFU, > some of them may have been ok netadmins, but definitely not the other > things (especially DBA work). I've worked for other companies like > CSC and PRC, they're all cheap bastards by necessity, but EDS seemed > that much worse. I've always been impressed that EDS still has a corporate culture bound up more by Ross Perot's concept of loyalty above all else, many years after he left the company. Impressed, in a bad way. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:11:56 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: OT: HP wants to buy EDS Message-ID: <483420c9$0$31193$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Bob Koehler wrote: > I've always been impressed that EDS still has a corporate culture > bound up more by Ross Perot's concept of loyalty above all else, > many years after he left the company. In a previous century, I worked with a foreign car manufacturer with offices in the USA. Their staff had been moved to "Perrot Systems" (they pronounced it Perrotte which was always funny to me (Perrot is a french name, pronounced Perro ) When I asked if there was any relationship between EDS and Perrot Systems, the guy explained how Ross Perrot had left EDS to form Perror Systems and went on to badmouth EDS. So obviously they got some for of indoctronation when they were transrfered from the car manyufacturer,s payrooll to the perrot payroll. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 03:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: ami.kurtser@gmail.com Subject: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Message-ID: <831908ac-b5e8-49a8-89c5-ecdc70b46c45@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Hi all, We use OpenVMS V7.3-2 on Alpha with TCPIP V5.4 ECO 6. We store a set of files on the OpenVMS machine and need to deploy them regularly over to a set of windows servers. The set of files include, among other things, Windows executables. For security reasons, we want to use SFTP, NOT FTP. When copying these executables with FTP, everything is OK. When using SFTP, and then trying to run the executable at its destination-Windows-server we get the "is not a valid Win32 application." message. We tried it against 2 different ssh packages in the Windows side, getting the same failure for both ( Bitvise WinSSH 4.26 and Freesshd 1.2.0 ), so the problem seems to be on the OpenVMS side. We tried it also with and without the "binary" command. Do you know of a way to solve this problem ? maybe a bypass ? Thanks, Ami ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 06:13:16 -0500 (CDT) From: sms@antinode.info (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Message-ID: <08052106131685_2020CE0A@antinode.info> From: ami.kurtser@gmail.com > When using SFTP, and then trying to run the executable at its > destination-Windows-server > we get the "is not a valid Win32 application." message. While it's interesting to know that something went wrong, it might be more helpful to know _what_ went wrong, that is, what, exactly, is different between a file which was transferred successfully and one which was corrupted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steven M. Schweda sms@antinode-info 382 South Warwick Street (+1) 651-699-9818 Saint Paul MN 55105-2547 ------------------------------ Date: 21 May 2008 08:53:54 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Message-ID: In article <831908ac-b5e8-49a8-89c5-ecdc70b46c45@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, ami.kurtser@gmail.com writes: > We tried it also with and without the "binary" command. > I've not had any problem using Filezilla. You _must_ transfer the file as _binary_ at every step. What are you using to get these Windows executables onto the VMS system to begin with? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 04:11:22 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:50:00 -0700, AJ Schroeder wrote: > "Tom Linden" wrote in > news:op.ubek12sxhv4qyg@murphus: > >> On Sun, 18 May 2008 12:47:01 -0700, AJ Schroeder >> wrote: >> >>> Hello group, >>> >>> I just aquired a VAX 6000 from a dumpster dive and I went to >>> www.openvmshobbyist.org to try and get the installation media it says >>> that >>> they are out of stock. Does anyone know where I could get installation >>> media for VAX? Or do I even need it if I am planning on using it as a >>> satellite node in an alpha cluster? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> AJ >> Which version are you looking for? >> >> > > I would be looking for the latest version for the VAX, which I hear is > 7.3 Send me email offline if you haven't already go it, using real address. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: 21 May 2008 08:50:38 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: In article , AJ Schroeder writes: > > Alright, that saved me some work - whew! I suppose that makes sense that > not all features will work the way I want them to, are there some major > caveats that would make life painful? I live and breath VMS 7.3 on my VAX and one Alpha with VMS 8.3 on my other Alpha every time I bring up my hobbyist cluster. The only problem I ever notice is that the SMISERVER on the Alpha running 7.3 sometimes checks out and I can't use SYSMAN cluster wide when that happens. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.283 ************************