INFO-VAX Thu, 22 May 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 285 Contents: Re: Easiest text processing on a Windoz PC ? Re: FTPand SSH security Re: FTPand SSH security Re: Lantronix MPS1-T print servers failing RE: Lantronix MPS1-T print servers failing RE: Lantronix MPS1-T print servers failing Re: Migrating OVMS to Integrity? Re: nagios/nrpe for VMS heads-up Re: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Re: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Re: VAX Media Re: VAX Media ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 05:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: dooleys@snowy.net.au Subject: Re: Easiest text processing on a Windoz PC ? Message-ID: On May 7, 2:24=A0am, Didier_Toulouse wrote: > Today, when I need to remove duplicates from an EXCEL sheet 30.000 > lines long, I have to build a .csv, upload it to a VMS machine, do a > sort, then a merge/nodup then bring back the resulting file to my PC > and load it back to EXCEL. > > What would be the easiest tool/language to use to do text processing > on a Windows machine pls? > > Thanks, > > D. If you can track down a version of DCL-Lite then you could run the sort /nodup without leaving your pc. You can also do it in excel create a "summary level" with a control break at your duplicate key change the view so you only see the summary rows select and copy, then paste the "data" only in a new sheet. But I take your point, there are some times when only edt will do Phil ------------------------------ Date: 22 May 2008 14:09:23 +0200 From: eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: FTPand SSH security Message-ID: <48357e93$1@news.langstoeger.at> In article , Gremlin writes: >Standard HP stack....I have set the tcpip$ftp_server_announce, but the >version still displays.... btw, I don't understand why this logical is called this way. In theory, TCPIP$FTPD_* are the logicals for the FTP server (daemon) while the TCPIP$FTP_* logicals are for the FTP client. Don't you think so? But it seems, TCPIP/UCX is VERY inconsistent with its logicals: eg. TCPIP$$FTP_CLIENT_MAX_QIO_BLOCKS TCPIP$FTPD_SYLOGIN TCPIP$FTP_EXTLOG TCPIP$FTP_SERVER_LOG_CLIENT_BY_ADDRESS where one has to make an (educated) guess for what component they are there... I also hate to see TCPIP/UCX using SYS$SYSDEVICE instead of SYS$SPECIFIC Please, can TCPIP V6 be made consistent again (we accept some/most backward incompativilities if/when we get constant consistency - and VMS behaviour)... -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: 22 May 2008 09:08:17 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: FTPand SSH security Message-ID: In article , Gremlin writes: > Actually, Nessus *does* know about VMS and can identify it. Phbbbbbbbbt. Nessus claims my VXT is running VMS, not possible. Nessus claims there are potentially worrisome ports open on my VXT and my VMS systems that no port scanner nor manual TELNET to that port can open (not to mention I've made sure my IP stack on VMS is set to not honor those port requests). Nessus assumes that if you are running a particular version of the BIND protocol, then you are using the published source for that protocol with it's bugs... That's just a start of Nessus' foolishness I've had to deal with. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 05:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: Lantronix MPS1-T print servers failing Message-ID: On 21 May, 22:35, "Michael F. Clark" wrote: > Nope they run perfect if I put them on a separate network. =A0Just have > problems connected our normal network. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Jordan [mailto:jor...@ccs4vms.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:04 PM > To: Info-...@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: Lantronix MPS1-T print servers failing > > On May 20, 10:37 am, "Michael F. Clark" wrote: > > We have several of these devices and use them to print over LAT from > > OpenVMS(7.2-1). =A0Yesterday and today all the MPS1's failed between 8am= > > > and 10am. =A0Around 3PM yesterday they started functioning again on > > their own. > > > Anyone have any idea's what would cause something like this? =A0All the > > MPS100's function fine and yesterday I upgraded the firmware on 1 MPS1 > > > as a test. =A0Today it failed again. > > > Michael Clark > > > Network Administrator > > > P: > > > 920.459.1294 > > > TF: > > > 800.203.8916 294 > > >http://www.nemschoff.com/TagArial.jpg > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This electronic transmission, including all > > attachments, is directed in confidence solely to the person(s) to whom > > > it is addressed, or an authorized recipient, and may not otherwise be > > distributed, copied or disclosed. The contents of the transmission may > > > also be subject to intellectual property rights and all such rights > > are expressly claimed and are not waived. If you have received this > > transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by return > > electronic transmission and then immediately delete this transmission, > > > including all attachments, without copying, distributing or disclosing > same. > > I don't have any Lantronix devices. =A0Is the device time/date aware? > If so is it possible the firmware can't handle current date/time? > Sorry, no other thoughts. > > Rich- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Are they picking up a rogue config from a DHCP server? Can you still use TCP/IP to the device? The devices we have out in the field fail occasionally, but it tends to be an outright failure rather than work, not work, then work again, then not work. I don't know what your environment or experience are, but if someone is putting a router in place between the network your Lantronix boxes are on and the hosts printing to them, LAT won't jump across the routed link as it's not a routable protocol. Steve ------------------------------ Date: 22 May 2008 09:01:16 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: RE: Lantronix MPS1-T print servers failing Message-ID: In article , "Michael F. Clark" writes: > Nope they run perfect if I put them on a separate network. Just have > problems connected our normal network.=20 > Is it possible that somebody is messing around with a brouter (bridge-router) on your network? LAT is bridgeable but not routeable. Some bridges will not meet LAT timing/sequencing requirements. ------------------------------ Date: 22 May 2008 15:08:59 GMT From: DAVISM@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis) Subject: RE: Lantronix MPS1-T print servers failing Message-ID: You might also check for rogue AppleTalk routers if you have the MPS100 configured to support AppleTalk. I've come across various print servers that purport to support AppleTalk failing when folks play fast and loose with AppleTalk configurations. There's even one print server I've come across that seems to think it's an AppleTalk router. It took us quite a while to figure out why things wouldn't "come back to life" when we restarted our "official" AppleTalk router several months ago. The print server in question decided it should seed the network as an AppleTalk v1 router (thus dropping support for AppleTalk zones and only supporting around 250 devices). Regards, Mike -- | Systems Specialist: CBE,MSE Michael T. Davis (Mike) | Departmental Networking/Computing http://www.ecr6.ohio-state.edu/~davism/ | The Ohio State University | 197 Watts, (614) 292-6928 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: BaxterD@tessco.com Subject: Re: Migrating OVMS to Integrity? Message-ID: <3878193a-1228-4efa-a2e0-de88d1656eca@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> On May 21, 7:16=A0am, "Tom Linden" wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:50:28 -0700, David Turner, Island Computers =A0 > > wrote: > > I wonder if he knows that the ES45 is not an Integrity server? > > He said upgrading :-) > > -- > PL/I for OpenVMSwww.kednos.com Maybe he's buying alpha's... ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 05:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: dooleys@snowy.net.au Subject: Re: nagios/nrpe for VMS heads-up Message-ID: <4ff78471-4027-425c-b323-27b28f550526@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com> On May 22, 4:11=A0am, Michael Austin wrote: > charles.dur...@bassett.org wrote: > > Nagios' nrpe is on my VMS 7.3-2 systems but I couldn't enable the > > service in TCPIP Services. =A0OPCOM mentioned "INTERnet ACP Error during= > > process startup, Nolisten Service Disabled - NRPED Server". =A0The > > solution was to add /FLAG=3DLISTEN to the recommended TCPIP SET command > > in the Nagios howto.txt > > what is it? what does it do? open source system monitoring and the vms version of nrpe is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/nrpe-vms/ Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 04:06:28 -0700 (PDT) From: ami.kurtser@gmail.com Subject: Re: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Message-ID: <8bfa9136-3abb-4abc-949d-b7731ed20e1a@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> On May 21, 4:53 pm, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote: > In article <831908ac-b5e8-49a8-89c5-ecdc70b46...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, ami.kurt...@gmail.com writes: > > > We tried it also with and without the "binary" command. > > I've not had any problem using Filezilla. You _must_ transfer > the file as _binary_ at every step. What are you using to get > these Windows executables onto the VMS system to begin with? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 05:25:30 -0700 (PDT) From: ami.kurtser@gmail.com Subject: Re: SFTP distorts certain types of files when moving them to Windows Message-ID: <56d44d1e-2cff-4ac3-8878-7f92e8032959@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> On May 21, 4:53 pm, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote: > In article <831908ac-b5e8-49a8-89c5-ecdc70b46...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, ami.kurt...@gmail.com writes: > > > We tried it also with and without the "binary" command. > > I've not had any problem using Filezilla. You _must_ transfer > the file as _binary_ at every step. What are you using to get > these Windows executables onto the VMS system to begin with? To all the responders: 1. These Windows executables arrived to the VMS system using pathworks. They are just fine, and untill now they were moved to the set of Windows servers using a product called FastCopy. Since the company behind FastCopy stopped supporting it for the newest versions of OpenVMS, we're trying to prepare an alternative solution. Please note, as I wrote before, that using ftp was successful (that is: the executables remained legitimate windows executables). 2. We used binary, as I noted. Didn't help. 3. There are files which contain binary data and was sent OK with sftp. On the other hand, all executable were corrupted when using sftp (and were sent OK when using ftp...). That's as far as I was able to observe about it. 4. The TCP/IP stack we are running on VMS is TCP/IP Servcies for openVMS (replying to David J Dachtera's question). Thanks, Ami ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:50:12 +0000 (UTC) From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: In article <4830ab88$0$7312$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei writes: > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: > > > Explain "the last one with all features". What features were removed > > from 7.3? IIRC, 7.3 offers some features which 7.2 doesn't. > > By removing display postscript for instance, one needs to update many > layered products and some no longer work on 7.3. OK. To be fair, this decision was forced on DEC by Adobe. > 7.2 is the last one with the Digital logo for login screen on > decwindows. That is a big loss. Indeed, but easily fixed. > Because 7.3 does not have all the DCL features as 8.3, you still need to > either refrain from using 8.3 features in a mixed cluster, or have > separate procedures for VAX/Alpha, so moving from 7.2 to 7.3 doesn't > solve that problem. OK, but it IS a different version. Whether there should be 8.3 for VAX is a different question. It does have features that 7.2 doesn't, of course. > If they had, as promised in their roadmap, brough VAX up to 8.x with the > same features at the DCL level, then the loss of display postscript > would have been compensated by all the new features that Guy Peleg had > added to 8.3's DCL. But moving from 7.2 to 7.3 doesn't bring you much of > new features. IIRC, it allows me to use MINICOPY. That, for me, is one of the biggest gains in VMS ever. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:53:34 -0700 From: Marty Kuhrt Subject: Re: VAX Media Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > John Santos wrote: > >> I think downloading from some cooperative fellow hobbyist is also >> okay, but I'm not certain of that. Putting up a copy of the kits >> on the Internet, publicly accessible, appears *not* to be okay, > > Making a kit available for someone to download does not imply that it > needs to be "publically accessible" on the internet. > > Since HP has abandonned new developpement of VAX, and since it no longer > sells new VAXen, making VAX kits publically available for download would > not hurt HP revenus in one bit. > > HP employees have often said that VAX customers are not interested in > upgrading. So if they haven't upgraded to 7.3 by now, they aren't going > to upgrade to 7.3 ever. Hence no loss of revenu at all. > > Heck. HP could just seed some BitTorrent site with the VAX distribution. > Oh, I forgot, there is no Bittorrent client for VMS. Yes there is. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.285 ************************