INFO-VAX Fri, 06 Jun 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 315 Contents: It's that time again - Free XP1000 Giveaway Re: It's that time again - Free XP1000 Giveaway Re: Itanium kernel alignment faults Re: Itanium kernel alignment faults Re: Need an external CD/DVD writer for DS10. Re: NEW - The Minimum You Need to Know about Service Oriented Architecture Archi Re: Python on VMS status ? SOLVED: Re: ssh2 hostkeys what directory? Re: ssh2 hostkeys what directory? Re: ssh2 hostkeys what directory? Re: You're not being the ball Danny. (Was: OpenVMS Boot Camp Update) [OT] Birthday ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:42:26 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: It's that time again - Free XP1000 Giveaway Message-ID: We're giving away an Alphastation XP1000 configured as follows: Alphastation XP1000 667Mhx EV67 with 4MB Cache 1GB Memory (4 x 256MB) 36GB 10KRPM SCSI Hard Disk U160 Dual Port SCSI + On Board UW SCSI Permedia 2 8MB Graphics Card On Board 10/100 Ethernet Adapter CDROM and Floppy 5 PCI Slots ( two ae used by SCSI and Graphics) International voltages variable from 100~250V 50/60hz (works everywhere!) Include "FREE XP1000 Giveaway" in the subject line or just hit reply (valid emial address required) We will also need your name, and daytime contact number in case you win. You don't have to provide it, but the email will be deleted if not included. -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International & Local: (001)- 404-806-7749 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= By subscribing to this free offer, you agree to provide a valid working email address and agree to receive relevent offers on Alpha Computer Hardware and services. We do not give away, sell or advise ANYONE of your name or email address. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:47:09 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Re: It's that time again - Free XP1000 Giveaway Message-ID: The "Giveaway" is set for Jun 30th 2008 -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International & Local: (001)- 404-806-7749 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= "David Turner, Island Computers" wrote in message news:Tn92k.11700$vP5.885@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > We're giving away an Alphastation XP1000 configured as follows: > > > Alphastation XP1000 667Mhx EV67 with 4MB Cache > 1GB Memory (4 x 256MB) > 36GB 10KRPM SCSI Hard Disk > U160 Dual Port SCSI + On Board UW SCSI > Permedia 2 8MB Graphics Card > On Board 10/100 Ethernet Adapter > CDROM and Floppy > 5 PCI Slots ( two ae used by SCSI and Graphics) > > International voltages variable from 100~250V 50/60hz (works everywhere!) > > > > > Include "FREE XP1000 Giveaway" in the subject line or just hit reply > (valid emial address required) > > > We will also need your name, and daytime contact number in case you win. > You don't have to provide it, but the email will be deleted if not > included. > > > -- > David B Turner > > ============================================= > > Island Computers US Corp > PO Box 86 > Tybee GA 31328 > > Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 > Email: dturner@islandco.com > International & Local: (001)- 404-806-7749 > Fax: 912 786 8505 > Web: www.islandco.com > > ============================================= > > By subscribing to this free offer, you agree to provide a valid working > email address > and agree to receive relevent offers on Alpha Computer Hardware and > services. > We do not give away, sell or advise ANYONE of your name or email address. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 06:23:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Law Subject: Re: Itanium kernel alignment faults Message-ID: <01da198a-1be2-401e-a8af-51bdbb5e3aa3@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> On Jun 5, 4:59 pm, "Guy Peleg" wrote: > > It immediately crashed the system. Being brave, and/or stupid, I of > > course tried it again and it again immediately crashed the system. > > This is part of the risk of using undocumented tools...... > > If possible, email me the output of CLUE CRASH Thank you for being willing to look at this, we certainly appreciate it. However, email to the email address (with REMOVE_THIS removed) immediately bounces with "User unknown". Cheers, Bill :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:52:57 +0300 From: "Guy Peleg" Subject: Re: Itanium kernel alignment faults Message-ID: <29ce7$48495d5a$28439@news.teranews.com> "Bill Law" wrote in message news:01da198a-1be2-401e-a8af-51bdbb5e3aa3@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 5, 4:59 pm, "Guy Peleg" > wrote: >> > It immediately crashed the system. Being brave, and/or stupid, I of >> > course tried it again and it again immediately crashed the system. >> >> This is part of the risk of using undocumented tools...... >> >> If possible, email me the output of CLUE CRASH > > Thank you for being willing to look at this, we certainly appreciate > it. > However, email to the email address (with REMOVE_THIS removed) > immediately bounces with "User unknown". Should be fixed now....check the addres again. > > Cheers, Bill :-) ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: vaxinf@chemie.uni-konstanz.de Subject: Re: Need an external CD/DVD writer for DS10. Message-ID: In article <08060314350571_2020CE0A@antinode.info>, sms@antinode.info (Steven M. Schweda) writes: |>From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG |> |>> In article <8b386066-cc79-4d0e- a0da-1e247a8faf92@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, tadamsmar writes: |>> >We have a DS10 running 7.2.1. Any suggestions for a compatible CD/ |>> >DVD writer? |>> > |>> >Need an external one with an SCSI connector. |> |>> Find out what HP is shipping with their Itanium servers. These *may* also |>> function on the Alpha with the ATAPI/SCSI converter. |> |> Someone recently recommended some kit for an HP-UX user, including a |>Q1592B, which seems to be a real SCSI DVD-writer. (Funny device names |>("=" in a device name?) for USB devices on HP-UX apparently defeated |>some software there.) |> |>http://forums.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do? threadId=1237083 |> |>A quick Web search suggested that this drive sells for about $600, which |>is (much) more than I pay for whole computers. Of course, while it |>might be cheaper to buy an XP1000 and put a $40 IDE DVD drive into it, |>it'd probably also be much slower than a real SCSI solution. |> |> Is anyone using a USB-connected DVD drive on VMS (Alpha)? |> As long as Alpha only acts as USB V1.1 that is too slow, it is not meaningful to use USB. OpenVMS/I64 V8.3-1H1 has USB V2.0. There is a chance to get the driver update for OpenVMS/Alpha, too, if you ask the author of the USB-stuff. Eberhard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:52:48 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: Re: NEW - The Minimum You Need to Know about Service Oriented Architecture Archi Message-ID: <8fc8fe11-5c87-48f6-a9d3-d21f00e128fc@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On Jun 5, 7:22 pm, "David Turner, Island Computers" wrote: > By Roland Hughes - > > Order here > > https://icusc.com/NOV21_WEBSTORE.asp?search_fd1=*0977* > > Choose from US Canada or Worldwide delivery > > pricing from $51 to $65 including shipping > > Regards to all > > -- > David B Turner > > ============================================= > > Island Computers US Corp > PO Box 86 > Tybee GA 31328 > > Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 > Email: dtur...@islandco.com > International & Local: (001)- 404-806-7749 > Fax: 912 786 8505 > Web:www.islandco.com > > ============================================= I expect it to be entertaining and informative but Roland really ought to have updated his web site with more about this book by now http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:19:55 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois_Pi=E9ronne?= Subject: Re: Python on VMS status ? Message-ID: <4848d711$0$6345$426a34cc@news.free.fr> Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: [snip] > > But if you're committed to Apache and just want to run Python scripts, > you can wrap them in .COM files and put them in CGI-BIN, or you can access > them via MOD_OSU and copy the code in the DECnet object which invokes perl > for perl scripts and invoke python for .py scripts. > That correct, another option is to use mod_fastcgi, if it is available on VMS, this will, probably, work with all Python application supporting wsgi. [snip] JFP ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:13:44 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: SOLVED: Re: ssh2 hostkeys what directory? Message-ID: <20080606151344.GA57518@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 02:47:14PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 12:23:29PM -0500, Steven M. Schweda wrote: > > > > SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$SSH.SSH2.HOSTKEYS] is empty. (But > > SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$SSH.SSH2] holds HOSTKEY. and HOSTKEY.PUB.) > > that means that HOSTKEY. and HOSTKEY.PUB are shared between > all nodes for which SYS$SYSDEVICE is a system disk, right? > > I can actually see in my known_hosts file that the signatures > of 2 alpha nodes, which share SYS$SYSDEVICE, are identical. > > I have a I64-alpha cluster, so different nodes have different > (well, only 2) SYS$SYSDEVICE. I'd like to share HOSTKEY. and HOSTKEY.PUB > between all nodes in the cluster. I think for this I need to > redefine TCPIP$SSH_DEVICE, to point to the disk where cluster > common files are. > > However, I cannot find want command procedure file defines > TCPIP$SSH_DEVICE in the first place. Many files provide > commands to define this logical if it has not been defined > already, so I'm not sure what is the best place to put > my define. > > $ show logical tcpip$ssh_device > "TCPIP$SSH_DEVICE" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > 1 "SYS$SYSDEVICE" = "$1$DGA2:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > I added $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXECUTIVE_MODE TCPIP$SSH_DEVICE DISK$CLUSTFILES to SYLOGICALS.COM on every cluster node. DISK$CLUSTFILES is the logical for my disk containing common cluster files, Now I have only one set of HOSTKEY. and HOSTKEY.PUB shared between all nodes in the cluster. Now failSAFE IP gives me no problems with ssh, because all ip addresses (from this cluster) in known_hosts database have identical keys. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 05:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesse.Chambless@acs-inc.com Subject: Re: ssh2 hostkeys what directory? Message-ID: On Jun 5, 11:09 am, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm trying to share hostkeys between all cluster members > so that ssh connection doesn't complain about changed > keys in the event of ip failover. > > In the process I realised there are several ssh2 > directories with hostkeys. They even appear in small > and capital letters for some reason, see below. > > Why do I need to have ssh2 directories under SYS$SPECIFIC > and under TCPIP$SSH? > > It appears that enabling and starting ssh server via > TCPIP$CONFIG.COM put the files under SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$SSH.SSH2] > So what program places the keys under SYS$SPECIFIC? > > many thanks > anton > > $ dir [*...]hostkeys.dir > > Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.SYSMGR.ssh2] > > hostkeys.DIR;1 > > Total of 1 file. > > Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS1.SYSMGR.ssh2] > > hostkeys.DIR;1 > > Total of 1 file. > > Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$SSH.SSH2] > > HOSTKEYS.DIR;1 > > Total of 1 file. > > Grand total of 3 directories, 3 files. > $ > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 Place the generated pair in the disk:[username.ssh2] directory. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 14:47:15 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: ssh2 hostkeys what directory? Message-ID: <20080606134714.GA57030@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 12:23:29PM -0500, Steven M. Schweda wrote: > > SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$SSH.SSH2.HOSTKEYS] is empty. (But > SYS$SYSDEVICE:[TCPIP$SSH.SSH2] holds HOSTKEY. and HOSTKEY.PUB.) that means that HOSTKEY. and HOSTKEY.PUB are shared between all nodes for which SYS$SYSDEVICE is a system disk, right? I can actually see in my known_hosts file that the signatures of 2 alpha nodes, which share SYS$SYSDEVICE, are identical. I have a I64-alpha cluster, so different nodes have different (well, only 2) SYS$SYSDEVICE. I'd like to share HOSTKEY. and HOSTKEY.PUB between all nodes in the cluster. I think for this I need to redefine TCPIP$SSH_DEVICE, to point to the disk where cluster common files are. However, I cannot find want command procedure file defines TCPIP$SSH_DEVICE in the first place. Many files provide commands to define this logical if it has not been defined already, so I'm not sure what is the best place to put my define. $ show logical tcpip$ssh_device "TCPIP$SSH_DEVICE" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) 1 "SYS$SYSDEVICE" = "$1$DGA2:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:04:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Subject: Re: You're not being the ball Danny. (Was: OpenVMS Boot Camp Update) Message-ID: Dear JF, Thank you for your support and kind words. This years boot camp was excellent with 100% attendance. What was very cool to me was that we had 6 or so folks under the age of 30 Richard, I am sorry that you seem to have had a bad experience at an event, if you would like to come to the Boot Camp next year maybe you could look at the boot camp from an insiders perspective, you are certainly welcome. So far the feedback has been excellent and the attendees thought it was worth their money. Regards, Sue On May 18, 4:24=A0am, JF Mezei wrote: > Richard Maher wrote: > > > You seem curiously surprised at how successful your colleagues have been= at > > reducing VMS to the status of a complete irrelevance in the IT industry.= But > > I'm afraid that in order to fully understand the attendance figures you = must > > first turn your question on its head and ask instead why someone would > > bother turning up at all, > > Mr Maher, > > Sue is a great person. Sue is a paid employee of HP and as such, she has > to toe the line. You should understand that. > > And considering that she seems to be responsible for 99.9999% of the > positive PR VMS gets, despite HP's efforts to disallow PR on VMS, you > should appreciate every bit Sue does. > > I am sure a lot of us would like to get Sue alone in a bar and get her > to start to spill the beans after having relaxed over a few beers/wine > bottles/whatever she fancies. Unfortunatly, I spspect she probably gets > all males to sign NDAs before she enters a bar with them :-) > > Consider the case where Sue were to move to brighter pastures. There > would be nobody left within HP to bother informing the users and to > provide some information to control all the rumours that surface due to > lack of public commitment by HP. > > Sue's commitment to VMS is unquestionable. (she deserves a special award > from openvms.org). When she leaves, the message will be pretty clear. > > But until that happens, it is refreshing to see someone maintain her > level of commitment not to her job, but to the VMS community. She > clearly cares. > > HP may not give Sue much to be happy about, but Sue has a user community > that love her. So it is important for the community to continue to show > its love of Sue. Having people start to criticise Sue is just not > something that is done. > > I am the first one to criticise HP and try to read between the lines to > try to see what HP's true goals are. I don't trust nor respect HP. But I > respect Sue greatly. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 06:02:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Didier_Toulouse Subject: [OT] Birthday Message-ID: 06-JUN-1944 06-JUN-2008 Thank you. I do hope this Obama Guy will bring back all these American Boys home... Didier (French) ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.315 ************************