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Date: 24 Mar 88 21:45:35 GMT
From: tada@athena.mit.edu  (Michael Zehr)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Subject: Re: 1-user restriction for VAXserver 35
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In article <62500008@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> heisterb@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
> ZWARTS@HGRRUG51.BITNET writes:
>>1) Is it true that the single-user license is enforced by the hardware?
>>2) If true, is it possible to upgrade to a multi-user system?
>>3) Is the single-user restriction also restricting users with OPER priv? E.g.
>>4) How is a single-user defined? Is it possible to have several sessions
>>   (with different usernames) in different windows when using VWS(UIS)?
>
>The single user license is enforced by the software (and DEC's lawyers),
>specifically LOGINOUT.EXE.  The extra bit of hardware just lets the system
>know that you're a vaxstation, not a microvax.  Note that patching LOGINOUT
>(or yanking the chip if you dare) violates your license.
>
>So far DEC says NO! to upgrading.  Look at the price difference between a
>vaxstation and a microvax.  Wow!
>
>You can get up to three people on a 2 user license in some cases.  
> [example]
>

I'm quite certain about this, but not positive:

DEC's old minimum license for vaxstations was 2-users.  Nowadays, they call
that 1-user, but it's the same.  2-users means the display screen plus one
other user.  1-user means one user, the display doesn't count.  In both
cases, you can have any number of people logged in through a separate window
on the display screen.

Another point to note, under some versions of VMS (4.5C at least) using a
LAVC, you can get as many people as you want through a terminal server.  I'm 
not sure if the same applies to set hosts from another machine.  The reason 
is the accounting used to determine number of users.  Terminal server
sessions are virtual terminals, so they don't count as "real" users.  I'm
not sure when or if DEC has changed that in VMS.




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michael j zehr
"My opinions are my own ... as is my spelling."