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From: tom allebrandi <crash!edison.GE.COM!ta2>
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Subject: Coming back at ya

Jamie - 

Letter to V_COLE follows

Tom

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Here, in order, are:

1.  The pageswapper article as runoff source;
2.  An inquiry I sent some time back (when we were still thinking in
terms of using PMDF) to the UUCP zone registry people, and their
reply; and
3.  The UUCP mapping project's standard info packet (again, as of 
some time ago).  

I have several reasons for wanting us to register under the uucp zone
and for not wanting us to depend on DECUS for administrative support. 
>From the Internet's standpoint, it is entirely appropriate for gnuucp/VMS
sites to be part of the uucp zone, as we'll be reachable via uucp. In fact
I can imagine a considerable number of headaches that might be caused if
we set up another zone, whose members were also reachable via uucp.  

Also, from the NIC's standpoint, any company (such as mine, Simpact 
Associates) belongs in the .com domain, thus we should become simpact.com .
It matters not that we consider ourselves associated with DECUS or with
VMSnet or whatever.  The domain structure describes the organizations
that own the machines.  The zone structure describes the physical connections,
but the effect of the domain addressing mechanism is to make the zones
transparent.  I doubt that the NIC would approve the creation of a new
first- or second-level domain that described connections rather than 
organizational structure; that's the exact reverse of the direction 
they've been pushing the net.  

Finally, even if we could set up something like decus.org, it would take
you at least a year to push it through the board of directors as a 
"pilot project"... assuming you could do it at all, as they'd see it 
as competition for DECUServe, their VAXnotes-based dialin system (and
rightly so; I fully expect DECUServe activity to drop off when VMSnet
gets going, but don't quote me).  We'd also have to fight them re. 
"commercialism policies" and all of the other DECUS drivel.  I'm a 
moderator on DECUServe and I've had all of that up to "here".  (Just
as an example, the system has been up for about a year now, and they
still haven't made Kermit available because they haven't settled on a
"policy" for ownership of the text posted on the system... cretins.)

I don't want to be thought of as a Unix user either, but bear in mind
that ".uucp" is NOT what you're supposed to put at the end of your 
address, even if your machine is in the uucp zone.  So I'd become
jeh@simpact.com, not jeh@simpact.uucp.  The folks who are still handing
out addresses that end in .uucp aren't up to date, or don't have up to
date mailers.  

(We WILL have an up to date mailer.)

Cheers,
 
        --- Jamie Hanrahan 
        (uucp:  {cbosgd | hplabs!hp-sdd | sdcsvax | nosc}!crash!jeh)
        (arpa:  crash!jeh@nosc.mil)
        (internet:  jeh@crash.CTS.COM)
        (US Mail:  c/o Simpact Assoc., 9210 Sky Park Ct., San Diego CA 92123)
        (phone:  619-565-1865)
        (transmatter:  32 deg.55'35.4" N, 117 deg.9'36.5" W, 390 ft el.)