From: CRDGW2::CRDGW2::MRGATE::"SMTP::CRVAX.SRI.COM::RELAY-INFO-VAX" 12-JAN-1991 14:25:41.75 To: MRGATE::"ARISIA::EVERHART" CC: Subj: RE: How to have Debug NOT use Windows? Received: by crdgw1.ge.com (5.57/GE 1.80) id AA21155; Sat, 12 Jan 91 14:10:44 EST Received: From VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU by CRVAX.SRI.COM with TCP; Sat, 12 JAN 91 10:53:01 PST Received: from BULLDOG.CS.YALE.EDU by Venus.YCC.Yale.Edu; Sat, 12 Jan 91 13:46 EST Received: from lrw.UUCP by BULLDOG.CS.YALE.EDU via UUCP; Sat, 12 Jan 91 13:39:50 EST Received: by lrw.UUCP (DECUS UUCP w/Smail); Sat, 12 Jan 91 13:28:46 EDT Date: Sat, 12 Jan 91 13:28:46 EDT From: Jerry Leichter Subject: RE: How to have Debug NOT use Windows? To: INFO-VAX@KL.SRI.COM Message-Id: <9101121839.AA01362@BULLDOG.CS.YALE.EDU> X-Envelope-To: info-vax@kl.sri.COM I have an application which uses DECwindows (it happens to be DXRN), which I need to debug, and I would like to have the VMS debugger use its VTxxx interface instead of it's new (and totally obnoxious DECwindows interface). What, you don't LIKE the new interface? Just because it takes forever to get started? Just because you can't do anything useful with it without forgetting everything you ever knew about debugging? I'm sure there must be a way to do this (there is one, isn't there??) (I can't simply delete the "display" because DXRN won't run.) Yes, there is a method; it's even in the documentation somewhere. I can never remember the exact logical, but you want to define something like DBG$DECW$DISPLAY to NL: (or maybe NONE). (The logical name is the logical that points to your DeathWindows display, with either DGB$ or (less likely) DEBUG$ pasted on the front.) If this is a common question, please forgive me. I don't recall every seeing it on this list, but I think more people would ask if they had any reason to suspect that this was possible. You're in good com- pany, BTW: I was asked the same question by a friend who's a VMS heavy and has spoken on VMS-related topics many times at DECUS. BTW, the other "obsolete, you want to use the new, improved (much slower) way" feature it's good to know about: Define DBG$PROCESS as NONE to get the old "Debugger shares the process with you" behavior. Faster to start up, and generates display output faster - and, the thing that really does it for me, when you try to display a large datum, you get each line as it is generated, rather than waiting for the subprocess to generated tons (all?) of it before you see any. I just LOVE waiting minutes for hundreds of lines to be genera- ted when I know I only want to look at the first 10 or 20 anyway. -- Jerry