From: bdwheele@indiana.edu
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:21 AM
To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com
Subject: Re: getting SIMH 2.9-6/VAX + VMS configured ?

In article <Xns91F3AA64B80F7acsfcgnetworksnet@216.166.71.232>,
	Andy <acs@fcgnet.works.net> writes:
> 
> This is great but I'm probably missing something here %-).
> 
> I was able to compile it on Mac OS X (V10.1.3 w/Apple's cc version 
> gcc-932.1) and sort of figured out how to set up a minimal
>  configuration file (to cut down on typing when playing with it):
> 
> LOAD -r KA655.BIN
> SET CPU 64M
> SET DZ LINES=8
> ATTACH -a DZ 12000
> SET RQ0 RD54
> ATTACH RQ0 vaxsys.dsk
> 
> and I attempted to use the disk image I had from playing with
> picoVAX ( vaxsys.dsk above) though I'm not sure if that SHOULD
> really work %-) since that says it's emulating a KA630 (or 
> something like that). But it didn't boot.
> 
> Details/questions below....
> 
> A show config gets me:
> 
> sim> show conf
> VAX simulator configuration
> 
> CPU, 65536KB
> TLB, 2 units
>   TLB0, 8KW
>   TLB1, 8KW
> ROM, 128KB
> NVR, 1KB
> SYSD, 2 units
>   SYSD0
>   SYSD1
> QBA
> TTI
> TTO
> CSI
> CSO, not attached
> CLK
> PTR, address=20001F68-20001F6F, not attached
> PTP, address=20001F68-20001F6F, not attached
> LPT, address=20001F4C-20001F4F, not attached
> RQ, address=20001468-2000146B, 4 units
>   RQ0, 159334KB, attached to vaxsys.dsk, write enabled, RD54
>   RQ1, 159334KB, not attached, write enabled, RD54
>   RQ2, 159334KB, not attached, write enabled, RD54
>   RQ3, 409KB, not attached, write enabled, RX50
> RL, address=20001900-20001909, 4 units
>   RL0, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize
>   RL1, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize
>   RL2, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize
>   RL3, 2621KW, not attached, write enabled, autosize
> TS, address=20001550-20001553, not attached, write enabled
> DZ, address=20000040-20000047, lines=8, attached to 12000, 0
> connections 
> 
> And if I try to actually boot from my system image I get:
> 
> sim> b cpu
> 
> 
> KA655-B V5.3, VMB 2.7
> 
> Performing normal system tests.
> 40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31..30..29..28..27..26..25..
> 24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09..
> 08..07..06..05..04..03..
> Tests completed.
>>>>b dua0
> (BOOT/R5:0 DUA0)
> 
> 
> 
>   2..
> -DUA0
>   1..0..
> 
> 
> %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk
> %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SYSDUMP.DMP on System Disk successfully mapped 
> %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping PAGEFILE.SYS on the System Disk
> %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SAVEDUMP parameter not set to protect the
> PAGEFILE.SYS 
>    OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version V7.2     Major version id = 1 Minor
>    version id = 0 
> 
> PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY  HH:MM)  17-APR-2002
> %SYSINIT-E, error mounting system device, status = 000008C4
> 
> And that's as far as it goes.... 
> 
> so my assumption (correct/incorrect) (Since the same disk image
> works with picoVAX on my PC)  is that it doesn't like that
> installed version of VMS. 
> 
> So..... the next step... how do I take my VAX VMS 7.2 CD (not the
> Hobbyest version but that shouldn't matter here) and read it with
> SIMH so I can install that ? Or do I have to create an image
> of that CD ? And with what ?

well, you can point the emulator to the cdrom device:

set rq1 rrd40
attach rq1 /dev/cdrom

and then boot the emulator and boot from dua1 (the real cd)

or, you can use dd to extract the data to a file:

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=vaxvms072.img 

and then

set rq1 rrd40
attach rq1 vaxvms072.img

> 
> And how do I create a disk image to install ONTO. The picoVAX
> DOS/Windows based disk image creator ? Or is there another way 
> using Mac OSX ? Or is my littel iBook just never destined to 
> run a real operating system (even if just in emulation...) ?
> 

simh will create the file as needed.  running these commands will
do it:

set rq0 ra82
attach rq0 my_ra82.img

ra82 is a 622MB disk.  When you boot the emulator, use dua1 as the boot
device and the real cd (or cd image) will be accessed and you can then
do a restore onto the virtual disk dua0





> There are directions for getting NetBSD running on simh
> at:
> 
> http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/vax/emulator-howto.html
>  but I couldn't find anything as helpful for VMS. Just a 
> "boot from the installation cd."
> 
> Thanks :-).


Good luck!  

Brian


> 
> -Andy-