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Subj:	TALK X0.0 available for Anonymous FTP

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From: Marc Shannon <SYNFUL@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
Subject: TALK X0.0 available for Anonymous FTP
To: info-vax@KL.SRI.COM, cmu-tek-tcp@CS.CMU.EDU
Cc: sh1u+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU, jen.quirin@VB.CC.CMU.EDU, bm17@VB.CC.CMU.EDU

I've noticed over the past few months (year?) that there have been requests
for a TALK for VMS running the CMU TCP/IP.  Well, I've been working on
something like that.  The best part is that it almost works!

I'm looking for people to help me test it out.  If you're willing to help me
out by sending me any bug reports, or are even willing just to give it a
whirl and see how it goes, get a copy.

This version of TALK is compatible with BSD 4.3 talk.  It does not at this
time have support for the BSD 4.2 packet formats.  That may be added at a
later date depending on possible complexities.

The bad news is that there is *no* documentation at this point.  The good
news is that it is VMSINSTALable.  (It doesn't mention that you need to
include in your system startup, after TCP/IP has been started, a line like
like @SYS$STARTUP:TALK_STARTUP to start the Talk Server process.)

Anyway, if you'd like to get a copy, you can FTP it (TALK000.A) from
DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU using standard Anonymous FTP.  (Remember to use
/STRUCTURE=PAGE.)  If you are on Bitnet, drop me a note and I'll send it
to you /VMSDUMP.

Once you install it, I'd appreciate a piece of mail just to know who (and
how many) is running it.  That way I'll have a better idea of how well
it's getting tested.  And, as I said before, I'd appreciate any bug
reports and/or fixes, too.

--Marc Shannon
  Computer Club
  Carnegie-Mellon University

(A sample installation follows for the curious.  Note that even though the
IVP is selected, it does actually run.  I think.)

----  Sample installation of TALK X0.0  ----

$ @sys$update:vmsinstal talk dusr:[synful.talk]

	VAX/VMS Software Product Installation Procedure V5.1-1  


It is 15-AUG-1989 at 23:29.
Enter a question mark (?) at any time for help.

%VMSINSTAL-W-DECNET, Your DECnet network is up and running.
%VMSINSTAL-W-ACTIVE, The following processes are still active:
	SYNFUL
	Ard
	Synny
	DNS$TA
	DNS$BACK
* Do you want to continue anyway [NO]? yes
* Are you satisfied with the backup of your system disk [YES]? 

The following products will be processed:

  TALK V0.0

	Beginning installation of TALK V0.0 at 23:29

%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product saveset A ...

    This is TALK X0.0.  It is a BETA release for debugging improvement
    suggestions.

    In order to install this program, you will need VMS V5.0 or better.
    You will also need to be running the CMU-TEK TCP/IP software.  (You
    can install the software even if you are not running the CMU-TEK
    software, but the IVP will not run.

* Do you want to run the IVP after the installation [YES]? 
* Do you want to keep the sources on-line [YES]? 
* Where would you like the sources placed [SYS$MANAGER:]: usr:[talk_sources]
* That directory does not exist, create it [YES]? 
%VMSINSTAL-I-SYSDIR, This product creates system disk directory  USR:[TALK_SOURCES].
* Do you want to purge files replaced by this installation [YES]? 
%TALK-I-NOMOREASK, No further questions will be asked during this installation
%TALK-I-SOURCES, The sources for TALK are being placed into USR:[TALK_SOURCES]
%VMSINSTAL-I-MOVEFILES, Files will now be moved to their target directories...
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 202006A3
	Installation of TALK V0.0 completed at 23:31

	VMSINSTAL procedure done at 23:31

